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MCM-RG/3A/4-00

0 ϳ (֕ã֮) : ֮־֤ ֳ֬ ߅ ֌ֆ ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ ׻֋ ֺ ׾֬ ֮ ׻֋ ָָ ֮֮ߵ ׾ ӡ ֤ , ֬և ן֟ ׾֬ ֵ , ו פ ֵ 000 ָָ ִֵ , ֲ Ù ֮ ֮֟, ãן ֮֟ ֕ ֟ ֵ֤ ׾֬ ֮ ָ ָ ֣ ֛ ׮ָֿ ׾֬ ֮ , ׻֋ ֤ ã֟ ϴ֟ ֵ ׻֋ כֻ פ ֻ ָ ֛ ֮ ֛ , ָ ֕ ֤ ָָ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֬և ׻֋ ã֟ ֵ֤ ß ֵ֤ , ֟ ֛ ׿ ָ ֮֟ , ֮ ִֵ ֟ , ֤ , , ָ ׸ָ , ֓ , ֲ ָָ֤ ֤ ׾־ ֲ ָ ֛ ֮֟ ו ָ ߟ֟ ו - ָ ֟ ָ ֟ ֮֟ ָ ߟ֟ ָ, ֛ ֯ןֵ ֟ , - ֮ ֻ , - ֻ , ßֵ , ֮ ֻ ָ ו ָ ָ֛ ֻ֋ ֋ ו ָ ִ ֜֜ ֵ֯׻ ״ , ֮ ״ ֮ և, פ פ ֻ֟ ָ ֛ ֯ ָ ֛օ ִ ֤ פ ֵ ֮֟ ֮ ֮֮ߵ ӡ Ӿֿ߻ , ִ ִֵ ϵָ ֛ ֵֿԕ֮ ֵԯ׻ ׮ִֵ ֵ֯׻ ָ פօ ֵԯ׻ ֵԾ ֵ֯׻ þָ օ ָ߲߲ ãן ֲ ӡ ֮ ׾֬ ֮ ֺ օ ֤, ׾ֿ ָ ֮ ָ ָ֛ ֻ֮ ָ ָ֛ ֻ֮ ׻֋ ־ֲ֤ -ױ , Ӳ׬֟ ׬ָ ו֮ ָ , ו֮ ™ָ֓ ָ ו֮ ״ֻ߳֟ ָ ִ ֻߕ ׮ִ , ֱֻ ָև ߅ ֯ ִ֬ , ֤ ִ֬ ֮֮ߵ ֮֮ ׻֋ ־ã , Ӳ׬֟ ׬׸ ו֮ ֵֻ ָ ׮ִ ֤ ו֮ ָ ָ֛ ֻ֋ ֋ ָ ָ֛ ֻ֋ ֋, ֮-֮ ï ֵ ָ ֻ և ևԅ ֵ ָև פ և ֲ ֵ ֟ ָ ֙ ׯ ֋ -ױ ֜֋, ׬׸ ֜֋, ֟ ׸ ֮ ֮ֆ, ֮ ֮ֆ Ӹ ױ ױ ִ ֮ - ֮ , ױ ָ ָ ָ֛ ֻ֟ ָ ָ ָ ָ ֻ֟ ? ־׸ ֟ ׻֋ , ׾֬ ֮ ֺ օ ֕ ו ָ פ Ӭ ־ ֮ ־֮ ־֮ 1400 ׬ ו֮ ֻߕ ׮ֵ״֟ ֵ ִ ֮ ֵ ָ߲ , ׮֬Ԯ ֲ ִ ֤ , ֕ ֻܵ ֟ ׮ִֵ֮ ֵ (3B ָ ֿ:)

GS-KS/3B/4.05

0 ϳ (֟) : ӡ ֮֯ -߮ ֻ׮ֵ ...(ִֵ ә).... ׮ ִ , ִ ִ ֤ , ֬ ֵ ֯ ִֻ ֕ ו֋, ָָ ꮵ ״ֻ, ׾֬֋ ו֋ ֲ ֮ ֮ ֋ , ֛ ׻֋ ׾֬ ״ֻ֮ ָָ ꮵ ״ֻ, ָָ פ ֮ ו ָ ׮ֵ Ӭ ֕߾ Ӭ ־ ֮ ßֵ ֻ ׻ ־ã ֌ פ ֵ ָ ־ã ֤ ֛ ֵ ֯ ָ ־ã , ֮ ֮ ׮׿֟ ֵ ָ, ֮ ״֮֙ ָ, ֛ ׿ ֮ ״ֻ֟ .. ָ, ֮֯ ָ ִֵ ә ֕

ֳ֬ (. .. ׸֮) : ִֵ , ?

0 ϳ : ָ, ִֵ ߴ ֮ ֟ , ӟ ֟ ֯ ֆ ׾ֿ ֮

ֳ֬ : ֯ ֟ ו֋

0 ϳ : ֆ ָָ ֮ ־ , ו֮ Ϥ ָ ֆ ֿ׌ ֟ , þֲִֻ ֮ ֻև ֿ߮ ֮ ָ ֻ , և-և ִ , ֻ , ֲ ִ Ӥ פ ֵ ػ և ֵ ֋ ָָ , ֋, Ӹ פ ֋, ָ ־֮֬ ִ , ߻ ֯ ߅ ָ, ֮֯ ֮ ִֵ פ, ׻֋ ֯ - ֮־֤

(ִ֯)

֮ ֻ ӛ (ײָ) : ֮֮ߵ ֳ֬ , ׾֬ ִ֣Ԯ ׾֬ ָ ֤ , ֻ -߮ ֟ ָ ӡ ֮ ֟ ֻ ָ ׾֬ ָ 3 () () () ï™ ֵ פ Ù ֮ 2021 , ׾֬ ֣ ִָ ֵ ֵ - -כ ִֻ ׾ ִֻ -߮ ֟ ן֟ ִֻ ֵֵֻ ֓ ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ ֵֵֻ ו ָ ִֻ ß , - ֟ ן ֮֮ ׬ָ ָָ , ָָ ן ִֻ ו ָ ֤ ן ֲ־֤ , ָ ׬ָ ֵֵֻ ֻ ֵ ֵֵֻ ן ֮֮ ָ֕ ָ֕ , ָ ֵֵֻ ֤ ׸ ָ פ ӡ ׻֋ ֤ߵ ֻ ׻֋ ִֻ , ִֻ ֵֵֻ ָָ ֤ ׬ָ ߴ ן ϵ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ־, ֮ ִ ִ ָ߲ ן ֤ Ӿ , ֟ ָ ֟ ִ ֟ - ػ ִֻ , ו ִֻ ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ ׾ßָ ֓ ֟ , ־֮ֆ ִ֣Ԯ ָ ֟ ׬ ֻ׮ֵ ֮ ָ ָָ ִ ׸֕Ԯ ִ ׾֬ 2021 Ù ֮ פ ׻֋ ֵ֮ ֵ , ִ ֵ ׬ ֻ׮ֵ ֵ , ִ ãֻ , ָָ Ù ֮ ׾֬ ו ִ ãֻ ֵֻ֮ Ӿ ָ , ֲ ָ ֵֻ֮ , פ , ָ ׬ ֻ׮ֵ ֮֟ ָָ ִֵ-ִֵ ָ ׬ ֛ ֲ ׬ ֛, פ ûִ ֮߅ ֮֮ ִ ׻֋ ָָ ֵ ? (3 ָ ָ)

-GS-KS/ASC-TDB/4.10/3C

֮ ֻ ӛ (֟) : ֕߾ ֬ ו ָ ִֵ ֮֕ן ֋ , ׌ ֮֟ ™ ׮ ֬׮ ִֻ ִ ™ օ ׮ֵ Ӭ ֣ -ӯכ օ ִֵ ײָ ְ ׾ ӡ ִֵ ߛߋ ֮֮ ָ ־ "þ ֵӟ ֤" , ֻ ָָ ԓ׸ ߛߋ ֻ ֟ collapse ָ, ׿ ֕߾ Ӭ ְ ֯ ֮ ֮ , פֻև כ ָ ֮ ? פ ָ ֮֕֬ , פ פ ׾ , פ ֮֕֬ ״ֻ֮ ֮ ݻ ָ֮ ׻ֲ֕ , ֻ ûֲִ֤ և ֲָ ֻ , ֮ ן ߅ ֲ ֵ ֯ פ ֟ , פ ֟ , ֮ , ûֲִ֤ ֤ 㮤 ֱ פ ֛ , Ӥ ֲָ ֲָ ߅ ָ ֕߾ Ӭ ™ ָָ ԓ׸ ֤׬׸ ׻֋ ֮ ֮֟ , ֛ ִ , פֻև כ ָ ֮֟ ָ֮ ׻ֲ֕ Ӥ ָ ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ ָ ֟ ֋, ֯ ֋, ӑև ֋ ؕ ֋ ...(ִֵ ә).. , ֻ ״֮֙ ֮ ӑև ؕ ֮ , ֋ ָָ ԓ׸ ׻֋ ֮ ֮֋ , 200 ָ ׻֋ ֮ י։ ָ ׾ֿ߻ , ߮ ׾ֿ߻ , ָ ֮֕֬ ֛ ֮, ־֮ ֮, ׾ ָ ֣ ײػ ֟ ־ ֮ , ӟ ֟ ֮֕֬ ׸ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֬ (. .. ׸֮) : ֟ ו֋

֮ ֻ ӛ : և פ ׸ , ׯ֙ , ױ ֟ ֤ ? և פ ׯ֙ ׸ ֕ߟ ֣֮֯ ֕ߟ ֮ և Ùָ ֟ , ֕ߟ և Ùָ ֕ߟ ֮ ׻֋ և ָ ֟ , ߓ ֣ ָ ֵ ו֮֟ ֮ , ֲ ֛ ָ ֟ ָ ׾֤ ֋ ß֮ ׾ ֮֯ ֟ 㴲և ӑև ֮֋, פ ؕ ֮֋, ֣ , ֮֕֬ ׸ , ...(ִֵ ә).. Ӥ ֛ ָ ֮, ָ ָ߮ ֛ , ָ ֣ ָ, ָ , ױ ֮֕ן , ߮ ן , ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֬ : ִ֯ ו֋

֮ ֻ ӛ : ֲ ן , ֲ פ ֻ ֣ ָ և ֮ ֮֟ , ֛ ֮ -ָև ֮֟ , ֣ ָ ֟ , פ ײ֛ ׻֋ ֮֮ߵ ӡ פ 㮤 ֮և, þ֓ ֮և פ ָ ָ , ָ֟ , פ ֮֮֕֬ ״ֻ, ו ӟָ™ߵ ֮ ָ֬ ָ ֮֕֬ ״ֻ ֟ ֣, ֮֯ ֟ ִ֯ (ִ֯)

(3D ָ ָ)

kgg-akg/3d/4.15

DR. CHANDAN MITRA (NOMINATED): Sir, I will not take more than two minutes. Firstly, of course, I stand to support the legislation that has been brought and I compliment the Minister for Urban Development for bringing this piece of legislation. I would like to add just two points.

Firstly, some injustice has been done in the matter of unauthorised colonies. I think, it is a little unfair. The principle of natural justice demands that if all unauthorised colonies which are there till March, 2002 are being regularised, there is no case for discrimination among them. I think, it is very unfair that about three colonies have been discriminated against without adequate reason and I would appeal to the Urban Development Minister to look into the matter particularly of Sainik Farms where we have been paying property tax. Mr. Mani Shankar Iyer, a Union Minister is also a resident of Sainik Farms, like myself. Let me disclose my interest. There, for the last so many years, we are living and we are paying property tax without getting any civic amenities or benefits. No electricity, no water, no sewage and nothing.

Now, the Sword of Damocles is hanging on our head; periodically we are told that the place may be demolished. Now, when everything is being regularised, I fail to see why this is not being taken up. These three colonies also should be regularised. By all means, take steps to ensure that the character of these colonies remain such that other such colonies do not come up in unauthorised manner. But, what is existing, where people are living, they should not be disturbed and everybody has the right to life.

My second and very minor point is, please do not have such long-term Master Plan. You are talking of 2021. The character of Delhi changes every five years. The other day, we read in the reports that even the Gurgaon Expressway, which had estimated a total vehicular traffic of 1.8 lakh passenger car units per day has already, even before the last flyover is opened, touched 1.6 lakhs. So, in 6 or 8 months, all our planning is going for a toss.

So, in this situation, Sir, I appeal to the Minister to kindly change the policy with regard to Master Plan. You can have a long-term perspective plan. But each Master Plan should be of a manageable proportion, five years or a maximum of ten years. Please do not make Master Plan which cannot really anticipate the growth of the city which has grown by leaps and bounds.

I, as a resident of this place for thirty years, have seen the change that could not at all have been anticipated 15 years ago. Keeping that in mind, through you, Sir, I request the Minister that some consideration be given. Thank you very much for allotting me the time to speak.

(Ends)

ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ (™ߵ ֮֕֬ , פ) : ָ, ֬ ״֮֙ ֵә ֵ

ֳ֬ (. .. ׸֮) :

ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ : ָ, ָ  ٻִֵ ֮ , 60-70 ֻ ֮ ֮ ֮ ֤ ֮ ֮ ׮ ֛ , ָ ֟ , , ֯ ָ, ֯ ߴ , ײֻ ִ֬ ֮ ֵ, ָ ٻִֵ ֈ ꮵ ꮵ ֱ ֺ֣ , , ßֲֻ ™ן ־֮ ֮ , , ֕ ָ ٻִֵ ׻֋ ָ ֮֮ ߴ ױֿ ָ, ߮ ָ ֻ Ù ײػ ֮ ,  ٻִֵ ֮ ? ߴ ֯ ֯

(ִ֯)

ָ ߯ (ִ) : ָ, ִ֣Ԯ

. ϳ (֕ã֮) : ָ, ִ֣Ԯ

THE MINISTER OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT (SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY): Sir, first of all, I would like to express my gratitude to all the Members, particularly 8 Members who spoke and lent their support to this Bill.

Let me refer to all of them personally: Shri Jai Parkash Aggarwal, Shri Nand Kishore Yadav, Shri Vijayaraghavan, Shri Rajniti Prasad, Shri Azeez Pasha, Dr. Prabha Thakur, Shri Mangani Lal Mandal and Dr. Chandan Mitra. Sir, this House is aware of the tempestuous times the Delhi city has passed through in the last two years. (Contd. by kls/3e)

KLS/3E-4.20

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD): We have discussed this issue on more than one occasion. I came to this House repeatedly. Whenever I came I received spontaneous support. I, therefore, would like to place on record my gratitude to this House for the support it has always extended on this issue. Sir, Mr. Jai Prakash Aggarwal, who opened the debate, made a very comprehensive presentation about the problems in Delhi. I share his anguish about the absence of BJP Members today. BJP Members have made a grievance of what happened in Delhi. Today they should have been here to lend support. I think they have lost the great opportunity to lend support and shed light on this issue. The BJP and other Members of the NDA are obsessed with what should have been done. But I would like to remind them, although they are not here in the House, and I must go on record that when Mr. Jagmohan was handling this portfolio he took a tough stand. He refused to resile from the Master Plan Delhi - 2001. If only he was more flexible, the whole situation, perhaps, would have been avoided and the BJP and the NDA cannot escape responsibility for the consequences of that fault. Sir, as has been rightly emphasised, Delhi as a city, has witnessed unplanned urban growth. This is true of all cities in India. This is what is known as 'organic' growth. Therefore, for anybody to think, be it judiciary, be it Parliament or be it purists or artists, all that has been built can be demolished would be utterly wrong. That does not mean we condone everything. We need to liberalise norms and bring much of it under norms. That is exactly what we tried to do when we prepared the Master Plan Delhi - 2021 and notified it on 7th February. The Master Plan, as we know, has been challenged in the Supreme Court. Mr. `Jai Prakash Aggarwal referred to that. But I would like to state in fairness to Supreme Court, the Supreme Court has not granted a stay on the Master Plan. I have, therefore, no doubt whatsoever on the validity of the Master Plan Delhi- 2021, it is in operation. Now for the Monitoring Committees, I cannot do away with the Monitoring Committees, they have been appointed by the Supreme Court and High Court. And whether they are legally valid, I do not know. It is for political parties to come together, evolve a consensus on this issue because the Monitoring Committees are not being appointed only in Delhi but by many High Courts in many parts of the country. I did ask the BJP leaders and Members to agree to a solution. While raising demagogic populist slogans, they would not agree to any proposal. (Contd by 3F/SSS)

SSS/3F/4.25

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD.): But so long as they operate, I can't simply ignore their instructions. Whenever we were aggrieved by the orders of the Monitoring Committee, we did go to the Supreme Court and High Court and got some reliefs even against the Monitoring Committees. Sir, a reference has been made to unauthorised colonies. There are as many as 1500 colonies in which more than 40 lakh of people live. Dr. Chandan Mitra said that this number should not be frozen. The date of 2002 should not be frozen. We are compelled to go back to the date because that was the date when we had an aerial survey of Delhi. If we allow it to be open-ended, it would not be possible...

DR. CHANDAN MITRA: I did not say that, Sir. May I clarify? I did not talk about not freezing. I said that discrimination has been done. You keep that frozen out. That is not the issue. But, within that frozen date, do not discriminate against some colonies. That was my point.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, if I am to discriminate with my background, I would discriminate against the rich. Therefore, I have not so far regularised the farmhouses. But, it is not my intention to keep them in suspended animation forever. We will certainly go in for a solution to the problem posed by the farmhouses. The Mathur Committee has submitted a report. That report is being studied and we will soon, I can assure him, try and find a solution to the farmhouses and the houses and the colonies of relatively rich persons. While regularising unauthorised colonies, we need to frame guidelines. The Master Plan, Delhi was notified on 7th February. Within 24 hours, i.e. on 8th February, 2007, the Cabinet cleared the proposal for regularisation of colonies. After that, the Government has finalised the guidelines and forwarded the guidelines to DDA which is at the moment framing regulations and once the regulations are framed, both the guidelines and the regulations will be placed before the High Court of Delhi to get the unauthorised colonies regularised once and for all. Reference has been rightly made to the people living in slums and Juggi Jhonpri colonies. We issued a policy direction that nobody -- living in slum and JJ colonies -- would be disturbed unless the land on which they are located now is required for a very urgent, prominent, public project. Mr. Syed Azeez Pasha referred to the demolition of a colony yesterday. I can only say that I do not know the details about that. I will look into that and come back to him. In the meantime, Sir, in slum and JJ colonies also, the Government of Delhi has been trying to provide basic services such as drinking water and sewerage. Otherwise, they would become slums. We are aware of the fact that the Capital city of India should be made slum-free. How do we do that? The land value in the urban areas has appreciated enormously in the last three to four years. I do not know whether it is a welcome development or not.

(Contd. by NBR/3G)

-SSS/NBR-HMS/3G/4.30.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD.): However, from the view point of providing accommodation to the poor people living in slums and Jhuggi Jhompri colonies, it can be treated as an opportunity. We can go in for in situ development. We can use the land as a resource and allow the builders to provide apartments for all the slum-dwellers in lieu of some land for exploitation by the builders. This model has been experimented successfully in Mumbai. We ourselves try to do this through Tekkan project in Delhi. We want to do this on a bigger scale in the months and years to come.

Sir, in the new Master Plan, we accorded high priority to the housing for the poor. If any builder wants to exploit land for commercial purposes, he is welcome to do so as long as he fulfils the societal obligation of providing, at least, 15 per cent of build-up space to the Government for distribution to the economically weaker sections. Sir, Delhi, until now, was allowed to have agriculture land. With the new Master Plan, all the agriculture land has been made urban land, subject to certain conditions.

Mr. Jai Prakash Aggarwal has referred to the Conversion Charges. As he knew full well, the Conversion Chargers were reduced by 2/3rd. I should say, after reduction of the Conversion Charges by 2/3rd, a very few shopkeepers had little to complain. So, therefore, people have reconciled to this and these Conversion Charges will not get credited to the account of the MCD or NDMC or DDA, as the case may be. There will be an escrow account for each area so that the amount collected by way of Conversion Charges can be used for the purposes to be determined by the people of that area. For the first time, an innovative method for using Conversion Charges has been introduced in the Delhi Master Plan, 2021.

Sir, a question has been raised as to what would happen to the premises -- commercial or residential -- after the adoption of the Master Plan. I think, the concerned authorities must approach the Monitoring Committee in the light of the provisions of the Master Plan for de-ceiling the premises if those premises are in conformity with the liberalised provisions of the Delhi Master Plan and...

SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGGARWAL: Why Monitoring Committee? ָ, Ù ? ֟ ָ ܟ ָ֕ You must approach the court. ָ ֮ , 0000, 000 פ ָָ ߙظ ߕ ֵ ? ָ, ֯ ָ ָ֕ ...(־֮֬).. ֯ ֻ֟ ֋, פ ֻ ֻ ֕ ֮ פ

DR. PRABHA THAKUR: Sir, the Monitoring Committee has become Manmani Committee

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): You made your point. Let the Minister reply to that.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, I do not necessarily...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: How much more time do you take, Mr. Minister?

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, I will take 5-10 minutes.

Sir, I do not necessarily differ from the sentiments of the hon. Members on the Monitoring Committee. However, as a Minister, I am bound by the rule of law. (CONTD. BY USY "3H")

-NBR-USY/3H/4.35

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD.): Therefore, I think, democracy consists an observance of rule of law.

Sir, references have been made to the problems faced by hawkers and vendors. We have gone in for hawking zones. Certain areas were taken up for hawking zones. More areas need to be taken up. I appreciate that. This process will be expedited.

References have also made to the implications of a recent High Court judgement. I have not studied the implications. This judgement was delivered only a week or two back. This is being studied by our law officers. However, it is the Government's intention to address itself to the problems posed by the High Court judgement, to the extent law permits.

Having regard to the scarcity of land, in India, in general, and, in Delhi, in particular, suggestions have been made for encouraging vertical growth. I am for vertical growth. Therefore, in the Delhi Master Plan we have liberalised the norms unusually, incurring the ire of purists. We would also like to encourage vertical growth. In developed areas, in old areas, we have provided incentives for that through liberalised norms. While encouraging vertical growth, we must take care to see that the basic services are facilitated. Without facilitating basic services, we cannot go in for indiscriminate vertical growth.

Now, in regard to old areas, like Chandni Chowk, etc., our Members should know they have been treated as special areas, and special protection from norms has been given. In about three years, wholesale development plan is being envisaged.

A reference has been made about guesthouses. The Master Plan of Delhi has been hailed by everybody for the liberal policy, adopted for the guesthouses. I must say, all those guesthouses are nothing but praise for the Master Plan, which we worked.

In regard to professionals, we have allowed more categories of professionals, such as, Chartered Accountants, Cost Accountants, etc. to open their offices in residential places.

Jai Parkash Aggarwalji, took an opportunity to refer to the houses of MPs. I will take some other opportunity to clarify on that. I am aware of the suggestions that have been made.

Shri Vijayaraghavan has referred to the Urban Land Ceiling Act and the proposal of FDI in retail area. I hope, you will appreciate that this is not an occasion for me to clarify that because I will get caught in different mess altogether.

So far as housing for migrants is concerned, migrants are shifting either to unauthorised colonies or to slum and JJ colonies. So, we have provided adequate protection. While it would be desirable to stop migration, we must also recognize that migration is an inevitable process, an irreversible process.

Sir, a plea was made for punishing those who were privy to all the violations in all these years. (Contd. by 3j -- VP)

 

VP/AKA/4.40/3J

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD.): Let me tell this House, Sir, that as many as 17 Executive Engineers were removed from service, without giving a notice, by taking recourse to articles 3 and 11. Therefore, it is not as though we are turning a blind eye to the mischievous officers. Sir, I am aware of the fact that this is only an interim solution. We want to utilise this one-year period to provide a comprehensive plan. Let me tell everybody, that everybody, including the farmhouse owners, has been given protection for one year. And, it will be our serious and sincere endeavour to see that all the aspects which have been covered with protection for this one year will be addressed to on a full-time basis. Thank you. (Ends) ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Thank you very much. ..(Interruptions).. No; no. There is no time. ..(Interruptions).. There is no time. ..(Interruptions)..

Ӥ 껻 : ֳ֯ן , ָ ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ ..(־֮֬)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: The Minister has covered everything. ..(Interruptions).. Every point has been covered. ..(Interruptions).. We have one more item to be taken up today. ..(Interruptions)..

Ӥ 껻 : ָ, important point , ֵ ֿ , ӡ ֻ , ֻ, '9, ױֿ ' ָ ֮ dilapidated conditions , ߮ ָ ֵ ..(־֮֬)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: I hope the Minister will take note of that.

Ӥ 껻 : ֯ ָ ׮֋, ָ, ִ ֯ ֲꌙ ֲֻ֟ ו֮֟ ֛-֛ ֻ , וִ֮ ֕-ָ֕ , ו֮֟ ֛-֛ ֻ ָ ֯ - ֮ ֮և, ֵ ֿ ־ פ, ֱ 00 , ։ ״֙ ָ

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Your point is well taken. ..(Interruptions)..

Ӥ 껻 : ָ ӡ opinion , ӡ ֟֋? ֻ ִֻ , ß ָ ֵ ֤ ׻֋ ֛ danger ..(־֮֬)..

ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ : ל opportunity ߅

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay. ..(Interruptions).. Please sit down. ..(Interruptions).. He is reacting. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The suggestions made by Shri Jai Prakash Aggarwal and Shri Nandi Yellaiah will be surely examined. ..(Interruptions)..

0 ϳ : ָ, ֱ ״֮֙ ו֋

ֳ֬ : , ֵօ What is this? ..(Interruptions)..

0 ϳ : ӡ ֣Ԯ ָ ֻ֮ , ֋ ֮ ָ þָָ ֻ , ֵ ָָ ֻ֟ - ֻԸ ֻ֟ , ֻ֟ ־ ָָ ֻ֮ ׾֬ ״ֻ, ӡ surety

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: In residential areas, household industries have been permitted.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: The question is:

"That the Bill to make special provisions for the National Capital Territory of Delhi for a further period up to 31st December 2008 and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto, as passed by Lok Sabha, be taken into consideration."

The motion was adopted.

 

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: We shall now take up clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill.


Clauses 2 to 6 were added to the Bill

Clause 1, the Enacting Formula, the Preamble

and the Title were added to the Bill.

 

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, I beg to move:

That the Bill, as amended, be passed.

The question was put and the Motion was adopted.

(Ends)

(Followed by PK/3K)

PK/3K/4.45

STATEMENT RE: VIOLENCE BY ALL ADIVASHI STUDENTS' ASSOCIATION OF ASSAM ON 24TH NOVEMBER, 2007 -- CONTD.

 

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I would request every hon. Member to be very brief. This is only to seek clarifications, and don't make a speech. Shri Kumar Deepak Das.

SHRI KUMAR DEEPAK DAS (ASSAM): Sir, we are compelled to live under the threat of death lurking behind us. We are afraid to go out for an evening walk for the fear that some unknown murderer may take a potshot at us. Talks seminars, meetings, rallies and appeals have been singularly ineffective in curbing violence, which has erupted as never before in our State. Assam, once a peaceful heaven, has turned into a hot-bed of intrigue and violence. Today, we see dead bodies littered all around in Guwahati. The streets are tainted with blood of human beings. While leaders of the Ruling Party are busy hollering success stories, a number of innocent citizens are being killed or aimed for life, for no fault of theirs. In these 60 years of Independence, we have noticed that the great Indian Nation is going down the hill due to factors like corruption, greed, violence and total lack of morality. These degrading activities are not at all compatible with humanity.

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN IN THE CHAIR)

Sir, the most condemnable barbaric act, which took place at Guwahati city on 24th November 2007 due to clash between processionists of All Assam Adivasi Students' Association and local residents, has surpassed all other instances of brutality in Assam.

Sir, these Adivasis who came to Assam 150 years back are part and parcel of the Assamese society. They are very much peace-loving people. They have been fighting for the last 15-20 years for getting the tribalhood status.

Sir, I condemn all such incidents of killings.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Deepak Das, this is a Statement made by the hon. Minister. Please seek more clarifications instead of making a speech.

SHRI KUMAR DEEPAK DAS: Sir, there are two aspects of the situation. One is, situation happened with the full knowledge of the State Government, which did not prevent the vandalism by processionists and the subsequent attack by the locals. That such a situation might happen when processionists start attacking the mob with bows and arrows. Had there been adequate deployment of force, the situation could have been prevented. It was not just for one hour, but for at least three hours the attack and retaliation violence continued and the police was witnessing some of the incidents.

Sir, the figures given by the State Administration cover up the total number of deaths took place and the number of persons who got injured. According to the sponsoring AAASA, that is, Adivasi Students' Organisation, 60 activists including 11 girls are still missing and at least 20 people are claimed to have died. Next morning, the CRPF forced 173 activists out of 220 injured to leave Guwahati Medical College Hospital without giving proper treatment. The Central Government should declare a compensation of at least Rs.3 lakhs to the families of those who lost their lives and free treatment to those who were injured. (Time-bell)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. You have to seek only clarifcations. We are not opening another Short Duration Discussion.

(Followed by 3L/PB)

PB-VNK/3L/4.50

SHRI KUMAR DEEPAK DAS: We would like to know whether the Scheduled Tribe status to six communities, namely, Moran, Motok, Chutia, Ahom, Konch Rajbongshi and tea garden communities, including, Adivasis of Assam will be given or not. Sir, we want the Central intervention for restoration of peace in Assam so that the peace process which has been stopped -- the discussion with the ULFA has been stalled for a long time -- could be opened. The discussion should start. We demand that there should be a CBI inquiry on this matter.

Sir, I would also like to suggest in this august House that an all-party delegation from this House should visit the place and meet the people who have been harassed and injured. We should meet the bereaved families. Thank you. Sir. (Ends)

STATEMENT RE. INDIRA GANDHI NATIONAL

OLD-AGE PENSION SCHEME.

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3m/4.55/skc-mp

ӿ ֤ (֟) :

9.     ָ ָ ֮֮ߵ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֟ ֣-֣

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֮ ֻ ӛ : ֳ֯ן , ߕ օ ӡ ӛ 9 ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ֋, ָ ׸ױ֮ ...(־֮֬)....֋, ӛ ...(־֮֬)...

֮ ֻ ӛ : ׾֬־ ׾ ....(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ָ ׸ױ֮ ....(־֮֬)....

֮ ֻ ӛ : ׾ֳָ ׾ ׾֬־ ׻֋ ֟ ?

ӿ ֤ : Ϭ֮ ӡ ֌־ פ , ֵԮֵ֮ ׻֋ ß־ ֤ ִ֣Ԯ

֮ ֻ ӛ : , ֮־֤

(ִ֯)

STATEMENT RE. VIOLENCE BY ALL ADIVASHI STUDENTS ASSOCIATION OF ASSAM ON 24TH NOVEMBER, 2007 -- CONTD.

 

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri D. N. Sharmah. Please seek clarification on the statement made by the Minister.

SHRI DWIJENDRANATH SHARMAH (ASSAM): Sir, at the outset, I would like to condemn the incident that took place on 24th November. I must extend my sympathies to those people who were seriously injured, to families that lost lives and to those who lost valuable property in such incidents.

Sir, the All Assam Adivasi Students Association has been demanding Scheduled Tribe status for a long time and they feel that if Scheduled Tribe status is given to those people, they will be benefited and they would get employment. This is not a new demand in Assam. They have been agitating over this issue for the last 15 years. Every year they used to come to the capital city, Guwahati, to demonstrate and put forth their demands. Past history shows that the demonstrations made by the Adivasi Students Association earlier have been very peaceful.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Sharmah, this is not clarification. Please seek clarification.

SHRI DWIJENDRANATH SHARMAH: Now, Sir, I would like to ask the Government and particularly the hon. Home Minister about it since this has been a long-standing demand of such a huge population of our state. Not only that, it has been mentioned in the statement of the Minister that initially, Assam Government had been consistently opposed to such a demand. I believe, Sir, that this is not correct. The then Government may have done that but the present Assam Government has given a specific proposal and recommendation to give them Scheduled Tribe status and also to other communities like Koch Rajbongshi, Moran, Motok, Ahom, etc.

SHRI DWIJENDRANATH SHARMAH: But in the statement it is something different. So, I would like to seek clarification on that from the hon. Home Minister. (Contd. by 3n/hk)

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