PREVIOUS HOUR

NB/3Z/6.00

. ִ ӛָ (֟) : ֯ ָ ֙ ָ , ֯ ָ ׻֋ ִֵ ָ , JD(S) ״ֻ ָָ ֮և ֳ 2 ֻ ָָ ֻ ߅ ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ ֙ ֕ ֕ ָָ ֮֮ ָ ״ֻ ָ JD(S) ָþִ ܵ ӡ ֮֮ ״ֻ ו unholy alliance , ߓ , ו ײ 20-20 ߮ ָָ ֻ֮ , ܵ ӡ ֮ ֋, ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ -ܵ ӡ ֮ ֲ ָָ ߲ 18 ߮ , ֤ ֟ ߓ , ܵ ӡ ָ 150 ֋ ׸֟ ָ ֵ ֵ, ֻ FIR ֟ , ֋, ꌿ֮ ߿֮ ֋, ָ ֟ ܵ ӡ ֱֻ ևՅ ܵ ӡ ֙, ãן ָ ִ֣Ԯ ָ ֙ , ֲ ָ ָ֟ ֻ ?

ֳ֯ן , ãן ָָ ֮֮ ֕ , ֕ ֮֮ߵ ־֮ ֲ ֋ , . . ָ ִָ֓ ֡ ֲָ ֟ , ָ ֟ ֮ ֲ ֟ ֮, ײֻ և, "ִ ֡ Ӥ֮", ֲ ָ ֱֻ ו֮-ו֮ ֲ ־ָ - mischief, betrayal, corruption, ׾֑֟ - ֮ ו֮֟ ֲ ״ֻ, ־ָ -ָ ֱֻ ֟ ֮֮ ֻ , ָ ֮֕ן ֲ ֨ӟ-׾߮, ׾ָָ֓-׾߮ ֚Ӭ֮ ֯ , ָ : ָ ֋, ™ן ־֮ ֋, ֲ ߵ ָָ, ֕ ָָ ֮֮ , ™ן ֮ , 128 ׾ֵ֬ ™ן ־֮ ֋ ֮־֤ ߵ ָָ ָ פ, ߱-״׮Ù ֣֯ פ ֮֯ , ֵ, ׻֋ ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ ֮֯ ָ ֕ ܵ ӡ ֮, ָ ߓ , ֮֟ , JD(S) ִ֣Ԯ ״ֻ ß߱ פօ ? ֚Ӭ֮ ָָ ָ ֕ ָ֬ ָ ֮, ֟ ָ֬ ָ ֮ þ֣, ״֟ ֮֕ן ™, ָ֬ ָ ֮, ָָ ֻ ԙ ָ ֕ , ׾ָָ֓ օ ֮ ֮֟ ꌵָ ֙ ׮ֵ֤ ָ֬߮ - ׾ָָ֓ֆ ٙ ֯ ״ֻ ָָ ֮֮ ֟ , ָָ ֮և , ׮׿֟ ָָ ֻ֮ ֻ߅ ãן ™ן ֮ ־ֵ ֵ ֮ ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ ״֡ , ָָ ֮֋

4A/VNK ָ ֿ:


-NB/VNK-USY/4a/06.05

. ִ ӛָ (֟) : ׯ֔ ָ ֲ 2004 ֳ ־ , ִֵ ֳ י , ָ ָָ ֮֋ , ֻ֮ ֙օ ָ 28 ָ ֮ ָ ֋, ֟ ֙ ֕ Ӥ ֛և ֻ ..(־֮֬).. ֲָ ֟ , ߾ ֻ ָ פֵ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

ֵָ : *

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN : Nothing will go on record. ״. , ֯ ָ 괲 , ֯ ..(־֮֬)..

. ִ ӛָ : , ָ ֟ ִָ֓ ֡ ֟ , ߾ ֻ ָ ֟ ָ֟ ֛-֛ , Ù ֲָ ֮֕ן ֻև ֮ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

. ֵ֛ : ָ, ֻև ֮ ׻֋ , ָ ײָ ֵ ..(־֮֬).. ֤ؕ ָ ֱֻ ֛և ֕ ״ֻ ֋, ל, ל ..(־֮֬)..

. ִ ӛָ : ׮ֵ ֮֟ , ֮֟ ꌵָ ֙ ™ߵ ֮֟ ꌵָ ֙ , ָ ꌵָ ٙ ֣ ״ֻ֟ ֻև ֮ ֟ ִϤ׵ ֮ ׻֋ ָ ꌵָ ֙ ..(־֮֬)..

ֵָ : 1970 ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ״. , - ֟ , ֌ ֯ , ֌ ֯ ׸Ù ֯ ֟ ו֋, ֯ personality ֱֻ ֋օ ֟ , ֯ ܿ֟ , 괲ָ interfere , ٻִֵ ֱֻ ..(־֮֬)..

. ִ ӛָ : ֳ֯ן , ֵ֛

 

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*Not recorded.


פ , ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : פ ֻ , himself assume ׻֋ ..(־֑֮)..

. ֵ֛ : ִ֤ ֮ ֙ ֮ ֣ , ֟ , ָ ֙ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ,

. ִ ӛָ : ֳ֯ן , , ֻ֓, ֻ, ֲ ָ ֮֕ן ֋ ׸ ֨ӟ ߔ ֋ ׮׿֟ ֻ֟ , Ù , ֻ߻ , ֻ߻ ֳ , ֳ , ָ , ֻ߻ , ֤ ָ ֲ ֟ ֵ ..(־֮֬).. ׻֋ , ִ ™ן ָ ™ן ֮ և , ִ֣Ԯ ߤ ִ ֻ֕֯ ײֻ ׮¯ þ֓ Ͽ֮ ..(־֑֮).. ߑ ־ օ ֿ ׾ ֣, ֮ ֟ ִ֯ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

VP/6.10/4B

SHRI D. RAJA (TAMIL NADU): Thank you, Sir, for giving this opportunity to my party; the Communist Party of India to place its views in brief. One can understand the anger and frustration of the BJP. They had a dream to have their first Government in the South. Their dream stands shattered. That is the reason for their anger and frustration. But, in Karnataka, coming together of the JD(S) and the BJP was a great irony. It was known from day one that the Government will not be able to survive, and that Government fell. But what had to happen, happened. BJP made an attempt to form the Government. A chance was given to BJP, but it failed to prove its majority on the floor of the House. And, I think, all constitutional opportunities were provided to BJP, but their Chief Minister could not win the confidence on the floor of the House. Given the arithmetics of Karnataka Assembly, given the political alignment of forces in the Karnataka Assembly, there is no possibility for any combine to form the Government. What else the Governor could have done? What else one could have done in the given situation? So, the inevitable happened. And, there is no possibility for any single party to form the Government, there is no possibility for any combine to form the Government, and the only option is, proclamation of the President's rule. We are opposed to the dismissal of any popular-elected Government which enjoys a majority. If that is the case, one can question the decision of the Union Government. But, here, in the case of Karnataka, there was no possibility. If this situation is allowed to continue, you will encourage more political opportunism, and more horse-trading. The coming together of these two parties was a manifestation of great political opportunism in the State of Karnataka. Now, I think, what has happened is good for the people of Karnataka. Whether the JD(S) has betrayed the BJP or the BJP has betrayed the JD(S), that is not the issue. In a democracy, people should not be betrayed. Their interest must be protected, and democracy will have to be upheld. In the given situation, I think, the Assembly must be dissolved. Political parties will have to go to the people to seek fresh mandate. When political parties fail to find a solution, ultimately, it is the people who provide the solution. And, that is what democracy means. In Karnataka, even if you declare President's rule, we will have to dissolve the Assembly, we will have to go for early elections, and political parties must seek fresh mandate from the people. That is the only way out for Karnataka. This is my party's position. Thank you. (Ends)

SHRIMATI PREMA CARIAPPA (KARNATAKA): Sir, I support the resolution and the proclamation issued by the President under article 356.

Sir, usually, the Congress Party hesitates to use article 356 of the Constitution. But, under the rarest of the rare situations or circumstances, article 356 of the Constitution has to be used. The people of Karnataka are very sensitive while forming the Government. But, unfortunately, in 2004 elections, no single party got the majority and the Congress Party was forced to form the Government with the JD(S), and the JD(S) toppled the Congress Party. The people of Karnataka felt that the JD(S) not only toppled the democratically-elected Congress Party, but also betrayed the people of Karnataka. As Mr. Naiduji said, they were in the Opposition for 26 years and they were very hungry to have power, so, they grabbed the opportunity and went to the JD(S) because they wanted to form the Government. Knowing fully well that the JD(S) betrayed the Congress Party, and that they may also betray them, they wanted to form the Government. They formed the Government, and had the agreement for 20-20 months. So, Mr. Kumaraswamy became the Chief Minister for the first 20 months. Throughout the 20 long-months, they never thought of developing Karnataka or implementing any programmes of UPA in Karnataka. They were only worried that what would happen after 20 months.

(Continued by PK/4C)

PK/SC/4C/6.15

SHRIMATI PREMA CARIAPPA (CONTD.): Whether these people will transfer the power to them or not. Everyday we could see the same news in the print media: What will happen after 20 months? The same question: Will they transfer the power or not? Sir, after 20 months, they could not get the power; they could not succeed in getting the CM's Chair. Somehow or other, they wanted to grab the Chair. They made all-out efforts, they paraded in Raj Bhavan in front of Governor, they came all the way to Delhi to parade in Rashtrapati Bhavan, and they went to all the temples and mathas asking for help and support. But they should be ever grateful to the Congress President Ms. Sonia Gandhi and the UPA Government for giving them an opportunity to form the Government in Karnataka. They formed the Government. The Governor gave them the opportunity to show the strength in the House on 19th November. But on 18th November, in the evening, both the Chief Ministers, the ex-Chief Minister, Shri Kumaraswamy and the new Chief Minister Shri Yeddyurappa had a Press Conference and told the people of Karnataka that they are going to give a ram rajya in Karnataka, they are going to have such a good governance and they will do everything for the development of Karnataka. They will be giving priority to health, education, roads, infrastructure, and so on. What happened? Next day in the morning, they went to the House to show the strength on the floor of the House, whereas the Chief Minister, instead of showing the strength on the floor of the House, declared that he was rushing to the Governor to tender his resignation. They showed this awkwardness. They held dharnas in front of Raj Bhavan and caused inconvenience to the people of Bangalore. They also created bad scenes. So, at the right time, the President has made this proclamation. I support dissolution of the Assembly in Karnataka and imposition of the President's rule in Karnataka. The people of Karnataka have been saved. With these words, I support this. Thank you.

(Ends)


..֯ : ָ, ״֮֙ ׻֋ ֮

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֙ ֯ ִ פ ֵ օ

..֯ : ֕֟ ֯ ֮֟

ֳ֯ן : ֕֟ ֮֟ ֙ ֯ ִ פ ֵ օ ֯ ָ ֯ և օ

DR. ABHISHEK MANU SINGHVI (RAJASTHAN): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, I rise at this late hour to speak on the subject on which several Members have spoken earlier, but the subject itself is so interesting, "Karnataka mein natak", that I am sure I should be able to hold your attention for about five or ten minutes. Sir, this is a play which has all the essential ingredients of a successful drama. It has tragedy, it has comedy, it has pathos, it has a huge amount of free entertainment...(Interruptions)..

SHRI AMAR SINGH: What is your role?

DR. ABHISHEK MANU SINGHVI: It has a villain. The only problem is it has no heroes. ..(Interruptions)...

SHRI AMAR SINGH: What is your role in it?

DR. ABHISHEK MANU SINGHVI: I will tell you about our role. Our role is to scrupulously follow the text-book, but I will come to our role a little later. This is, Sir, a theatre of the absurd. This is a sordid saga and each of these words is not mere adjectives, but they have meaning. They have been made pregnant with meaning by the two principal dramatist personnel of that State. This is a sordid saga of corruption, mismanagement, opportunism, hypocrisy, unholy alliances, and, of course, above all, loot of the State. Sir, in a sense, it is a great victory for democracy; it is also a failure of democracy. It is a victory of democracy because we have, at least, now very shortly a corrective and, hopefully, we will go to the polls. But it is a failure in the sense that so long this kind of a farce could go on in the form of Government. It illustrates a naked lust for power. There is a Party, the Party whose former President spoke some time ago, whose righteous indignation is completely misplaced. There is a Party which saw the writing on the wall. (Contd. by 4D/PB)

PB/4D/6.20

DR. ABHISHEK MANU SINGHVI (CONTD.): They knew the facts. They turned a Nelsonian blind eye to reality only because of their lust for power. They became an ostrich in the sand because they could not stay without power and their greed for power drove them into the so-called alliance.

My friend, Mr. Amar Singh, asked about our role. Well, let us tell him about our role. Our role is to point out from day one the inherently unstable nature of the proposed alliance, of the Government-formation process. We said, 'it cannot last; there is internal contradiction; it will not last.' And, we, therefore, as the Congress, said that the Government would be within its right to dissolve it and to go to the people. And, what did the Congress-led UPA Government do? The Congress-led UPA Government followed a textbook example of scrupulous morality to a fault. The scrupulous morality to a fault was that although there is a view that in law even under Bommai, it could have been dissolved then. It did not do so despite the obvious elements of inherent instability, and, therefore, we bent over backwards to give some time, if possible, even remotely possible, thereby, giving you, perhaps, the shortest-lived Government in South India, if that is of some satisfaction to the main Opposition of this House.

SHRI AMAR SINGH: What about Dave Gowda and Dharam Singh Alliance?

DR. ABHISHEK MANU SINGHVI: Mr. Amar Singh will not dictate the sequence of my speech. Permit me to speak in my own way. I will deal with them as well. You are the only one, perhaps, we will not deal with this time, but we will deal with all the other parties.

Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, this is the theatre of the absurd for another reason. It is for the first time, probably, in constitutional history, in democratic history, that you have the concept of collective responsibility turn on its head. It is not only collective irresponsibility. It is collective irresponsibility with murder charges being traded in the Cabinet between none else than a Cabinet Minister and the Chief Minister. It is a case unprecedented in global parliamentary history of a sitting Minister trading corruption charges. It is a case unprecedented globally, not in India, not in Karnataka alone, of full-page advertisements by the two principal partners who are supposed to be in alliance in running a State, full-page advertisements, carrying out a campaign one against the other. Well, this is collective responsibility as per the definition of the BJP or the JD(S)! Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, this naked lust for power, this ostrich-in-the-sand attitude, led the BJP to arrive in full form, full force with a Barat for the remarriage. Unfortunately, for them, it is before the 'punervivah', there was a 'talak'. There was a divorce. All the beautiful dreams of honeymoon were shattered. ...(Interruptions)... Yes; Mr. Ahluwalia, you made a small mistake. You arrived with the barat, but you made a small omission. You forgot to take the consent of the bride. That is why, the dreams of the honeymoon were shattered before it began.

Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, my time is short. In the formulation 'JD(S)', all of us know now that the word 'S', is the biggest joke on the political firmament of this system. To say that they still practise secularism or believe in secularism, after all the shenanigans and all the acrobatics in the last few years, is truly a sad and tragic joke on this nation.

Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, Article 356, of course, was made by our Constitution-framers to provide for a failure of constitutional machinery. But failure of constitutional machinery, I beg to submit, Sir, also includes gross extreme forms of misgovernance. There was nothing short of loot of the State going on and Article 356 has not come or rather dissolution has not come a day too early. I had this very strange example in this State which is again unheard of. The State is divided up as if by a legal contract. Since when have you heard that a State is divided up by a MoU? Our Indian Contract Act has so many provisions but the British never dreamt of it, the Indians never dreamt of it, to have a clause that the State's loot can be divided by a twelve-condition MoU, and if you don't sign the MoU, you must then go and break the Government or you must decide how to share the spoils of war. Each of the events, Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, is unprecedented in parliamentary democracy; it is unheard of anywhere and only one word is suitable for these two parties, 'shame on them', 'shame on their so-called principles', 'shame on their conduct', 'shame on what they did in Karnataka for the last two years and the last few months'. Thank you, Sir. (Ends)

(Contd. by 4e/SKC)

4e/6.25/skc-gs

ָ (ָ Ϥ) : ָ, ֮ ״֡ ֟ ֟ ׾־ָ ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ ָ ָ ָ-ϟָ ֵ ָ, ׾ֵ֮ ֤ ִ֮ ֮ -֤ ֮ ֚Ӭ֮ ֮, י ßָ߮ , ֟ ִ ܵ ӡ ֮, ֲ ִ֣Ԯ ׻ֵօ ßֻ ßֻ օ (ִ֯)

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: When he said, 'government of loot', he must be speaking about the 20 months-experience of his government at the initial stage.

.. ֯ (ԙ) : ֳ֯ן , ֯ ֮־֤ Ӥ ֟ ָ ֮ , ԙ , ߲֮ 47 Եָ ֕ߵ ֤ؕ ֯ ֮֯ օ ָ , ֟ , ֛ ֤

ֳ֯ן: ֈ 괲ָ

.. ֯: ֛ ֤ , I am not criticising him. 2004 ֤ ָָ ֮, it was the first Congress Government which was formed. opportunism ? ָ ֟ ֲ ־ָ ׻֋ , ֮֯ 2004 ֲ ־ָ ׻֋ ? ֯ פ , ֯ 65 ߙ ״ֻ 84 ߙ ״ֻ We never ventured to form the Government but you had gone to meet Mr. Deve Gowda and his family and requested that you wanted the first Chief Minister of the State to be from your party and afterwards theirs. ֵ, 20 ߮ ָָ ֻ߅ ֯ ֛ ߴ օ ֤ , ׮ֻ , ׮ ֵ, ֲ ֻ ֻ֮ ԅ ֯ ָ ָ ֟ , ־֮Դ ֮֮ Do you mean to say that whosoever has come here as a politician could do so without power?

֕߾ ㌻ : ֆ և ....(־֮֬)...

.. ֯ : , ֯ ־ ֵ ? ....(־֮֬)...Let me speak.

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֻ ֟ ו֋ ....(־֮֬)...

.. ֯ : ֮ , ֕ ֤ , ֮ ֮ ֯ ״֮֙ ֤ ִֵ ו֋ ־֮Դ ֵ֮, 20 ߮ פ ֣ פօ ....(־֮֬)...

֮֮ߵ ֤õ : ә օ ....(־֮֬)...

SHRI K.B. SHANAPPA: If you wish to call it a contract, that is your choice. I don't wish to intervene. ֯ ױ֮ ו֋ that is your choice.

.. ׻ֵ : ә ֮֯ ߋ ....(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ׻֋ ֯ ׻֋ ....(־֮֬)...

.. ֯ : ֯ ו֋ ....(־֮֬)... ״֮֙ ....(־֮֬)... ֮ ߮ ....(־֮֬)... Sir, we gave a good Government. With Deputy Chief Minister and Chief Minister from our party, we have done a wonderful job there. ָ ֟ ֮ - ֋ ָ, ֵ ֋ ָ߱ () ָ ףֵ ߕ ֣ , և ؙ , ػ , ֮ և ֮֯ ؙ ؙ ֯ ػ ֲ ֤ ִ ָ-ָ ....(־֮֬)...I have always appreciated Shri Janardhana Poojary. ֟ ߬-߬ ֟ ָ ו֛ ָ ־֮Դ ָ, ؙ -- ָ ֵ , ؙ -- Ӥ ֻ ߔ ֕ ָָ ֮֮ ׻֋ ָ , ֟ ? ....(־֮֬)... ֵ֛ ? ֮֯ ؙ ֛ 'If anybody in this committee is trying to form the Government, I am the last one to support it'. Is it not a fact that you said so? It is in the paper. ֯ ֙ ָָ ֮֮ ؓ֟ ߅ ....(־֮֬)...

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: What are you talking? It is the Parliament. (Interruptions)

SHRI K.B. SHANAPPA: I am only supporting you. You took a stand then.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: We are not here to ...(Interruptions)... Please don't...(Interruptions)...

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: I was always for ...(interruptions)...

ֳ֯ן : ֯ և ֯ և ߕ ֙ ֈօ ֯ , ֯ ֟ ו֋ (Followed by 4f/hk)

HK-ASC/4f/6.30

.. ֯ : ֕ ָ ָ ֛ President's Rule is unavoidable. ..(Interruptions).. ֟ opportunism , Ӯ opportunism օ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֵ, ֯ ׻֋ .

.. ֯ : ָ opportunism ׮ֻ?..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֲ פ ...(־֮֬)..

.. ֯ : -߬ ־ֲ פ ..(־֮֬). ׻֋, ֮ ו֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֮ ֟ ָ և ..(־֮֬).. ㌻ , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬). ֯ ך ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI K.B. SHANAPPA: Let us go to the elections ..(Interruptions).. Then we will talk about the democracy. ..(Interruptions)..

ֳ֯ן : , thank you. Mr. Minister.

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): Sir, it is not necessary for me to make a long reply to the debate. While moving the Resolution, I have made the points which are required to be brought to the notice of the House. Almost all Members have said that the Proclamation should be ratified. Some Members have gone to the extent of saying that the House should be dissolved. In view of these statements, I make no other points. I request that the Resolution may be put to vote and passed. (Ends)

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Sir, please give me permission for one minute.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, the Minister has replied. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Sir, serious allegations have been made by the BJP and Janata Dal stating that there was corruption. ..(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Debate is over. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: I want CBI inquiry against these allegations. ..(Interruptions).. I want CBI inquiry against these allegations. ..(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You have been given opportunity to speak. ..(Interruptions).. Now, the hon. Minister has replied. ..(Interruptions).. It cannot be taken up again. ..(Interruptions).. Please sit down. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: The Government should commence the CBI inquiry. ..(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The debate is over. Please sit down.

The question is:

"That this House approves the Proclamation issued by the President on the 20th November, 2007 under Article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of Karnataka."

The Motion was adopted.

(Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now, there is a Statement by hon. Minister, Shri Shriprakash Jaiswal.

STATEMENT RE: VIOLENCE BY ALL ADIVASHI STUDENTS ASSOCIATION OF ASSAM ON 24TH NOVEMBER, 2007.

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THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHRIPRAKASH JAISWAL): Hon'ble Deputy Chairman, Sir, I rise, with a deep sense of anguish, to inform this august House of the violence which took place in Guwahati on 24th Nov, 2007. The Government of Assam has informed that :-

All Adivashi Students Association of Assam (AASAA) had applied to District Magistrate, Guwahati on 6-11-07 for holding a Gana Samabesh (rally) on 24-11-07 at Guwahati in the South Beltola School field to press for their demand of declaring the Adivashis in Assam as Scheduled Tribes (Plains). No permission was granted to the Association for holding the rally. However, the people brought by AASAA started gathering in the field of South Beltola High School from the morning of 24-11-07. About 3000 to 3500 people gathered at the site by 11.30 AM. Most of the people came from the districts of Kokrajhar, Karbi Anglong, Darrang, Udalguri, Golaghat etc., in about 50-60 buses. After gathering they wanted to take out a procession to the Dispur Capital complex.

They were not given permission by the Magistrate on duty to take out the procession. But, about 1000-1500 persons broke away forcefully by overpowering the Police pickets at around 12.00 noon and entered the Bassistha Road leading to Dispur Capital complex from Beltola. On the way they reportedly indulged in vandalism and damage to shops and cars by pelting stones and using the lathis, bows and arrows, which they were carrying with them. (Contd. by 4g/KSK)

KSK/AKG/6.35/4G

SHRI SHRIPRAKASH JAISWAL (CONTD): More than 50 vehicles and 30 shops are said to have been damaged in the process. When the processionists reached near the entrance to the MLA's Hostel, the Police party dispersed them by mild lathi charge and fired tear gas shells. On being dispersed, the processionists ran in different directions and entered different byelanes in the area in addition to the main Basistha road. While they were dispersing the persons affected by the violence, these people retaliated and attacked them. As a result, number of processionists and agitationists were injured. The situation was brought under control by 1.00 p.m. on 24th Nov, 2007, with the arrival of additional police force.

All the injured persons were shifted to Guwahati Medical College Hospital and Mahendra Mohan Choudhury Civil Hospital. The total number of persons injured is 242, out of which, 10 persons have been injured seriously. One person succumbed to his injury in the Hospital in the evening. The identity of the dead person is yet to be ascertained. Fifty-seven persons have been discharged and sent back to their respective districts on 25-11-07. All steps are being taken to give free medical treatment. It is expected that all the remaining persons other than the ten seriously injured persons will be discharged and sent to their respective home districts by 26-11-07 forenoon.

The District Magistrate imposed curfew, as a precautionary measure, from 2.25 p.m. on 24-11-07, which had been relaxed for 12 hours from 8.00 a.m. on 25-11-07. The curfew has been withdrawn from 8.00 p.m. on 25th November, 2007. On 24th November, 2007, after the incident, about 2000 persons, who were in the meeting ground, were safely sent back to their districts with police escort in the evening in the vehicles brought by them. About 900 people were rescued from different roads and byelanes and they were taken to Basistha Thana and sent to their respective home districts by 25th November morning under police escort.

The State Government has already announced ex-gratia of Rs. 3 lakhs to the next of kin of the person killed and Rs 50,000/- to the persons seriously injured and Rs 10,000/- to the persons with simple injury. An enquiry by Shri P.P. Verma, Additional Chief Secretary, has been ordered.

The situation at present is peaceful and under watch. The AASAA has given a call for 36 hours Assam bandh from 5.00 a.m. of 26-11-07 to 5.00 p.m. of 27-11-07.

A close watch is being kept on the situation. The senior officers of the Ministry of Home Affairs are in constant touch with the Chief Secretary and DGP of the State.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: This is not there in the statement.

SHRI AMAR SINGH: You have not read para 2...(Interruptions).

ֳ֯ן : ֮֯ , "a close watch is being kept...". That is not there in the statement, but that is...(Interruptions).

SHRI AMAR SINGH: You have not read the part which says, "There has been a demand for giving ST status...".

ֿ߯ ֵ־ֻ : ֜ ֮ ֋ ... (־֮֬) ...

ָ : ֮֯ ֜օ ... (־֮֬) ...

.. ֯ : main para ... (־֮֬) ...

ֳ֯ן : Ù ֋ ... (־֮֬) ...

ֿ߯ ֵ־ֻ : ָ, ֮ ױ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ פ ֋օ Ù פ , ... (־֮֬) ... ևد ״Ù ... (־֮֬) ...

ֳ֯ן : ֮֯ ֜ ... (־֮֬) ...

(4 ָ ָ)

GSP-SCH/6.40/4H

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There has been a demand..(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: Has this paragraph been deliberately deleted? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I will sort it out. (Interruptions) Please sit down. Please sit down.

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: Sir, Has this paragraph been deliberately deleted? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. Please sit down. (Interruptions)

ֵָ : ָ, ָָ ֻ ...(־֮֬) ֟ ...(־֮֬)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. (Interruptions) ֯ ך ...(־֮֬) Obviously, there seems to be some mistake. There are two statements. (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: Is it a mistake or a deliberate omission? That is the thing. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There are two statements. One statement contains that additional paragraph and the other one does not carry it. So, which is the correct statement? That can be circulated. (Interruptions)

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Whatever the hon. Minister has read is the correct statement. If there are any questions to be asked on other issues, on other facts, they can be replied to. But we were expected to give the facts relating to the incidents and those facts are given here. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: What the hon. Members say...(Interruptions)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ӡ ֮֮ ..(־֮֬)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: It is right that whatever the hon. Minister has read is correct. (Interruptions)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, Ù ...(־֮֬) ݮױ ֜ ...(־֮֬) ָ, ֱ ...(־֮֬) ....(־֮֬)

..׻ֵ: ָ, ݻֿ ֱ '2' ֜ ....(־֮֬) ֵ, ֱ '2' ....(־֮֬) There has been ..(Interruptions)...

SHRI D. RAJA: Sir, what is this? (Interruptions)

SHRI MATILAL SARKAR: Sir, how can this happen? (Interruptions)

ָ֕ ״: ָ, ֤ ָ

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: It has never happened in the House. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please wait. (Interruptions)

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: That was the demand. (Interruptions) That was the demand. (Interruptions)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ֱ

ָ : ָ, ֕ ֤ ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן: , כߙ ֵ ...(־֮֬) Amar Singhji, obviously, the person who has prepared the statement has not ...(Interruptions)...

ֵָ : ָ, ָ ֤ ....(־֮֬)

ָ : ָ, ֟

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ...(־֮֬) ֳ֯ן , ....(־֮֬)

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Let me explain. (Interruptions). Let me explain. (Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Obviously, there is some..(Interruptions)...

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, when this statement was brought to me, I thought that the House wanted to know the facts. We had given the facts. Now, paragraph no.2 is not relating to the incident as such. It relates to something that had happened in the past. That is why, it was deleted. (Interruptions) But if you...(Interruptions)... Let me complete. If you want to read it as a part of the statement, we have absolutely no objection. (Interruptions)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ֤ ֜և ...(־֮֬)

..׻ֵ: ָ, ӡ ...(־֮֬)

֕߾ ㌻: What is this? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please (Interruptions) Let us not ask more questions (Interruptions)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ֱ ...(־֮֬)

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Let me explain. (Interruptions) Let me explain. (I will explain, otherwise .... (Interruptions)

..׻ֵ: ָ, ָ ִ ....(־֮֬) ָ, ו ָ ֯ , 1965 ...(־֮֬)

׿־ָ֕ . י: ״֮֙ ..(־֮֬) ֯ - ה ...(־֮֬)

..׻ֵ: ָ, ֮֮ ֻ ֋ ...(־֮֬) ָ ֋ ...(־֮֬) ָ ֯ כߙ ... (־֮֬) ֯ ....(־֮֬) ֙ ؛ , ߕ ֮֯ this is a part of the proceedings (Interruptions) ֯ ֱ '2' ֜ ו֋

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ֤ ֜և, ֱ

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: I can explain. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Ahluwaliaji, please...(Interruptions)...Obviously, in the statement which has been circulated to the hon. Members, additional para 2 is mentioned, which has not been read by the Minister. This has not been read, which is obviously a mistake.

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: , , ֜ ...(־֮֬)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: It should not have happened because a statement that is circulated in the House has sanctity. That statement has been included. For that, the hon. Minister has given an explanation that this para, which he has deleted, obviously, has not been deleted by the person who prepared the statement. (Contd. by 4j-vkk)

-GSP/VKK-PSV/4j/6.45

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: No, no, Sir, it is not that. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ahluwalia, the Home Minister said, "He came to me. I deleted it." (Interruptions) This is what he is explaining. (Interruptions) ֟ ? ...(־֮֬)...

DR. V. MAITREYAN: Sir, the second point is the cause for the first point. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: That is correct. (Interruptions) Obviously, whatever statement the Governments want to make, it is their prerogative. (Interruptions)

00 ׻ֵ : ֯ ֤ ֜ ו֋, וִ ׻ - ' ֿ߯ ֵ־ֻ ָ ֕ ֳ ...(־֮֬)... פ ֮ ֻ ֌־' ...(־֮֬)... ׻ ֵ ? ...(־֮֬)... ִ ׻ ֵ ...(־֮֬)... ײָ, ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ױ , ֯ ׻֋? ...(־֮֬)... Obviously, care has not been taken while circulating. (Interruptions) ֻ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

00 ׻ֵ : ֻ֟ ...(־֮֬)... ו֮ ֱ ֵ֮ , ֮ ֵ֮ ...(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֜ ...(־֮֬)... ֜ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ו֮ ֵ֮ , ֯ ֟ ֮֟ ״׮Ù ֟ ֮֟ ? ...(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֜ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ל ...(־֮֬)...

ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ֿ߯ ֵ־ֻ): ָ, ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ָ ׮֤ , Ù ֜ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ׮֤ ֟ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ֜ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)...

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, we have no objection.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHRIPRAKASH JAISWAL): Sir, there has been a demand for giving Scheduled Tribe (ST) status to Tea and ex-tea garden communities comprising Munda, Oran, Gonds, Santhals etc., from Bihar, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh etc. This has been examined several times by the office of RGI. The Lokur Committee had also considered this issue in 1965, and had noted that they agreed with the opinion of the Backward Classes Commission and did not recommend the tea plantation labourers to be treated as STs. The settlers in the tea estates have tended to lose their tribal characteristics in the new surroundings. Moreover, the office of RGI noted that many of the tea tribe communities were not STs even in their native States i.e. Basor, Bhattar, Basphoor, Bhagta, Tandoi, etc were SC in the native states while Bhamij, Beha, etc. were listed as SC/ST in different states of origin. Based on these considerations and the observations of the Lokur committee, as well as the Backward Classes Commission, RGI has not supported the proposal of the State Govt for inclusion of tea tribes in the list of STs in Assam. The Government of Assam had also initially consistently opposed giving them the ST status.

A close watch is being kept on the situation. The senior officers of the Ministry of Home Affairs are in constant touch with the Chief Secretary and DGP of the State. (Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Kumar Deepak Das. ֯ ֱ ׸ױ֮ ה ...(־֮֬)... Patilji, if you want to reply for the first, you can reply.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, it will not be possible for me to reply to so many things at one and the same time.

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ֯ ׸ױ , ֤ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : , ֤ ...(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֤ , Ù כ ֵ ֕ ִ Ù ֻ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ...(־֮֬)... Sense of the House is respected.

(Ends)

RE: SERIAL BOMB BLASTS IN UTTAR PRADESH

ON NOVEMBER 23, 2007 -- (Contd.)

׿־ָ֕ 0 י: ߴ֮ ֲ ו֮ ׌ֵ ֮ ָ, ֲ֤ ֮։ և , ִ֮ ָ ףֵ ֣ Ӿ ֌ ִ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ָ ֵ֮ ִָ֤ ֟Ծ ֛ ֮ , ָ , ֟ ִ ֛ (4/000 ָ ֿ:)

4k/HMS-RSS/6.50

׿־ָ֕ 0 י (֟) : ֟ ׻֋ ו֮֟ ֳָ Ͽ , ֮ , ֮֟ ֤ ֤ 00 ָָ ־֕ ֮ ,


ו ָ 韵 , ָ ֮µ 韵 ׻֋ 5 ֋ פ ֋ , ֤ ֜ 5 פ ָ ֛ ܴ , 50 ָ פ ֋ ָ ֕ ӡ ֋ , ָ ֮ ו 韵 , ָ ׻֋, - ֤ ׻֋ Ϭ֮ ӡ 1-1 ֋ פ ֋ ו֮ ܴ , 50 ָ ֋ פ ֋ ֮

, ֮ ߴ֟ 5-6-10 ֋ , ָ ֮ ֵ ׾֬ ׻֋ ֮ ߴ֟ ָ ־֕ פ , ֓ , ףֵ ֵ֟ ָ ֤õ ֤ , ׻֋ ֲ ״ֻ ִ וִָ ִ ָ וִָ ִ ִ ֻօ ӟ ָָ וִָ ָָ וִָ וִָ , ִ ִ ֻօ , ָָ , ӟ ָָ , ׻ , әߕ , Ù ׻ , Ù әߕ , ׻ , әߕ ״ֻ ִ ֺ ֟ ֲ ֲ ֤ ָ ֲ ָ ֤ ָ֮ ֮ פ ֤ ו ָ ֮ ֵ ־ Ù֮ ָ ִ ׾ñ օ ә Ӥ ָ , ׮ֵ և ָ ָ-ָ ָָ ֕ ? ָָ ןֵ֟ , ׻֋ ? ָ-ָ ָָ , ָָ ֕ , וִָ , ָ ß ֟ ߅ , ֲ ״ֻ ֲֻ , օ ֮ ן ֤ ֵ ֤ ֵօ

ֻ ֋ ָ ӟ ֙֋ ִ ֙ , ֤ ֻ ֙ , ײָ ֙ , 00 ֙֋ , ֜ , ָ™ ָ ָ ӑ Ϥ ֙ ԅ ָ ֙֋ ֲ ֙֋ ָ ֻ֟ , ָ ֻ֟ ß ׮֟ ֟ ֻ , ָ ̸֕ ̸֕֕ ֟ ֛ ָ ָ ֟ ׻ ׻֋ ֤ וִָ ֮ , әߕ ֤ וִָ ֮ , ָ

(4l/֕ ָ ֿ:)

4L/KLG-MKS/6.55

׿־ָ֕ . י (֟) : ָ ֓Ԇ ߔ ֮ ֟ ֕ ִֻ ֟ ܴ ָ ֻ ָ ָ ֵ ֟ , ֣ ܴ ֻ ֵ ֟ ָ ֙ ß ׮֟ , ָ ֛ , ָ ׻֕ , ָ ָ ӲӬ , ֮ ׵֟ ӟ ֮ ׵֟ , ָ ™ ִ ָ ן , ™ օ - ֙֋ , ָָ և , ׮ ָָ , ִ , ׻ ִ ֻ ֮ ֤ , ֮ ߱֟ , ֵ ֻ , ֻ , ׯ֔ ָ-ӓ ֻ ָ ߕ ױ Ӥ֕ ׸ãן ָ ײ֛ ֤ ׸ãן ָ ײ֛ , ׿ ָ ־ֻ ֟ ? ִ֟ ָ Ù פ, ָ ֓ ֓ - ֓ ֓ ֟ , ִֵ , ִ ֟ ֟ ִ ֟ ָ פ ֟ ָ ֓ ֟ ֕ ֓ ָ

ֳ֯ן , ־ֻ ֟ ãן ? ֲ ? ֟ ֕ ִ֮ ׾ ָ ֓ ָ ָ֮ ֮֮ , ֓և ־ã , ײֻ֕ ֤ , ֛ ֤ , ֤ ׻֋ ָ ֓ ֺ ײ֮ ָ ֺ , ָ ֮ ֌׸ ָ ֓ ָ ܵ ֜ և , ܵ ָ ֤ և , ־֕ ָ ֓ ֻ וûָ , ٻִֵ Ù וûָ , ֋-֋ ֮ ֮ , ֻ߮ ֮ , ָ Ù֮ ׸ ׻֋ ָ ָ ܵ ֜ ֕ և , ꌙ׮ , ׯ֔ כ ׻ֵ ֲ֤ ֮֯ , ֱ ֤ , ֯ו־ ֣ ֱ ֵ ֱ Ӳָ ֟ ִֵ , ָ ߙ Ӳָ ֟ ָ ָ֯ ֟ և ֤ ֲֻ ָ ָ ֟ , ֮ ֛ - ֤ ׻֋ ֮ ֛ ӟ - ׻֋ ֤ ֮ ֛ ֣ ֮ ֛ ֵ ֓ ֻ ֮ ו ֮ ָ ׾ ָ ֓ , ֮ ָ ֌׸ ָ ֓ ? ָ , ֕ ֋߅ ֯ , ? ׻ ֯ , ״׮Ù , ָָ , ֙ ָָ ֙ ָָ , ִ ֺ ֯ ֮֟ ֛ ֮ ֟ ָ ܵ סֵ ֳ ֓ ӟ ܵ סֵ ֟ ֮ ָ ֤ ֓ ָ ֋ Ӭ Ϥ ܵ ӡ, ָ™ ܵ ӡ, ܵ ӡ, ֵ֤ ԙ ܵ ӡ ָ ӟ ܵ סֵ ֮ ׻ֵ ׻֋ ֤ ֕֙ ֤ ֓ 4/ ָ ֿ:

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