PREVIOUS HOUR

HMS/KLS/1N-12.00

MR. CHAIRMAN: Papers to be laid on the Table. ...(Interruptions)... Question Hour is over. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, I have a submission to make. ...(Interruptions)... Sir, we just heard the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs. There is nothing wrong if you allow the Min43ister of State to answer without the Cabinet Minister. ...(Interruptions)... But the point is that there will be exception once or twice. If it is happening continuously, ...(Interruptions)... What is the rule? ...(Interruptions)... If he has any problem, make Mr. Velu the Cabinet Minister in place of Laluji, we have no objection. ...(Interruptions)... They should make Mr. Velu a Cabinet Minister. ...(Interruptions)... (Ends)

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN IN THE CHAIR)

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

1. DR. ANBUMANI RAMDOSS: Sir, I lay on the Table

I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare (Department of Health), under sub-section (2) of section 23 of the Prevention of Food Adulteration Act, 1954:-

 

G.S.R. 513 (E) dated the 27th July, 2007, publishing corrigendum to the Notification G.S.R. No. 513 (E) dated 26th July, 2007 (Hindi only) Part II, published in section 3 of the sub-section (i) of Gazette of India [Extraordinary].

 

G.S.R. 518 (E) dated the 31st July, 2007, publishing corrigendum to the Notification G.S.R. 491(E) dated the 21st August, 2006.

 

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare (Department of Health), under sub-section (2) of section 23 of the Prevention of Food Adulteration Act, 1954:-

 

G.S.R. 367 (E) dated the 22nd May, 2007, regarding Maximum Residues Limits for six more pesticides (registered by the Registration Committee under the Insecticides Act, 1968) in different articles of food, under rule 65 of the Prevention of Food Adulteration Rules, 1955.

 

G.S.R. 458 (E) dated the 2nd July, 2007, allowing use of certain food additives in infant formula as per Codex Guidelines.

2. ֳָև : , ׬׮ִֵ, 1989 ָ 199 ߮ ӡֵֻ֠ ׮ִ׻֟ ׬֮ֆ - ן ( ֣ ) ֳ ֙ ָ ֟ :-0esdayָ, 20 ־ִָ, 2007 ֵԾ׻֣֮ ß __________________________________________________________

 

No. 2006/E&R/700/1/Pt., dated the 28th September, 2007, regarding Formation of New Salem Division on Southern Railway.

 

G.S.R. 694 (E), dated the 7th November, 2007, publishing the Indian Railways (Open Lines) General (Second Amendment) Rules, 2007.

3. ןֻֻ ׸ : , ׮ִ׻֟ ֡ ֳ ֙ ָ ֟ :-

I.(1) A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956

 

(i) (a) Fortieth Annual Report and Accounts of the Maharashtra Agro Industries Development Corporation Limited (MAIDC), Mumbai, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Corporation.

 

(ii) (a) Thirty-fourth Annual Report and Accounts of the Kerala Agro Industries Corporation Limited (KAIC), Thiruvananthapuram, for the year 2001-2002, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Corporation.

(2) Statements (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers under sub-section (3) of section 29 of the Central Agricultural University Act, 1992:

 

(i) (a) Annual Report of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, for the year 1993-1994.

 

(b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the paper mentioned at (a) above.

 

(ii) (a) Annual Report of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, for the year 1994-1995.

 

(b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the paper mentioned at (a) above.

 

(iii) (a) Annual Report of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, for the year 1995-1996.

 

Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the paper mentioned at (a) above.

 

(iv) (a) Annual Report of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, for the year 1996-1997.

 

Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the paper mentioned at (a) above.

 

(v) (a) Annual Report of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, for the year 1997-1998.

 

Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the paper mentioned at (a) above.

III. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers under sub-section (4) of section 30 of the Central Agricultural University Act, 1992:

 

(i) (a) Annual Accounts of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, for the year 1999-2000, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

(b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

 

(ii) (a) Annual Accounts of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, for the year 2000-2001, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

(b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

 

(iii) (a) Annual Accounts of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, for the year 2001-2002, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

(b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

IV. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(i) (a) Thirty-first Annual Report of the National Federation of Urban Co-operative Banks and Credit Societies Limited (NAFCUB), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007.

 

(b) Annual Accounts of the National Federation of Urban Cooperative Banks and Credit Societies Limited (NAFCUB), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

(c) Review by Government on the working of the above Federation.

 

(ii) (a) Forty-fourth Annual Report of the National Federation of State Cooperative Banks Limited (NAFSCOB), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007.

 

(b) Annual Accounts of the National Federation of State Cooperative Banks Limited (NAFSCOB), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007 and the Audit Report thereon.

 

(c) Review by Government on the working of the above Federation.

 

(iii) (a) Forty-seventh Annual Report of the National Cooperative Agriculture and Rural Development Banks Federation Limited (NCARDBF), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007.

 

(b) Annual Accounts of the National Cooperative Agriculture and Rural Development Banks Federation Limited (NCARDBF), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

(c) Review by Government on the working of the above Federation.

 

(iv)(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the National Labour Cooperatives Federation of India Limited (NLCF), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

Review by Government on the working of the above Federation.

4. DR. AKHILESH PRASAD SINGH: Sir, I lay on the Table

I. (1) A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (4) of section 7 of the Industries (Development and Regulation) Act, 1951:

 

(a) Annual Report and Audited Accounts of the Development Council for Sugar Industry, for the year 2005-2006.

 

(b) Annual Report and Audited Accounts of the Development Council for Sugar Industry, for the year 2006-2007.

(2) Statement (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) (a) above.

II. Statement (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for not laying the Annual Report and Audited Accounts of the Food Corporation of India (FCI), for the year 2006-2007, within stipulated period.

REPORTS OF THE PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE

DR. K. MALAISAMY (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I lay on the Table a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Reports of the Public Accounts Committee for the year 2007-2008:-

 

Fifty-eighth Report (Fourteenth Lok Sabha) on Action Taken on Twenty-eighth Report of PAC (Fourteenth Lok Sabha) on Control systems in India Security Press, Nashik.

 

Fifty-ninth Report (Fourteenth Lok Sabha) on Action Taken on Thirty-fourth Report of PAC (Fourteenth Lok Sabha) on Delayed purchase and insignificant utilization of equipment procured under Fast Track Procedure.


REPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON ENERGY

SHRI JESUDASU SEELAM (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I lay on the Table a copy (in English and Hindi) of the Twenty-second Report* of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Energy on Ultra Mega Power Projects for the year 2007-2008. (Ends)

ALLOCATION OF TIME FOR DISPOSAL OF

GOVERNMENT AND OTHER BUSINESS

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I have to inform the hon. Members that the Business Advisory Committee in its meeting held on Thursday, the 22nd November, 2007, has allotted time for the Government Legislative and other Business as follows:

BUSINESS TIME ALLOTTED

Consideration and passing of the following Bills:-

(i) The Sashastra Seema Bal

Bill, 2006

Two Hours

(ii) The Armed Forces Tribunal Bill, 2005

Two Hours

(iii) The Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) Union Territories Order (Amendment) Bill, 2007

One Hour

 

II Consideration and return of the

Appropriation Bills relating to the

Supplementary Demands for Four Hour

Grants (General) for 2007-08 and (to be discussed

Demands for Excess Grants (General) together)

for 2005-06, after they are

passed by Lok Sabha.

 

The Appropriation (No.4) Bill, 2007

The Appropriation (No.5) Bill, 2007

III Consideration and return of the Appropriation

Bill relating to the Supplementary

Demands for Grants Four Hours

(Railways) for 2007-08, after it has been

passed by Lok Sabha.

IV Discussion on the Statutory Resolution

seeking Approval of the Proclamation issued

by the President on the 20th November, 2007, under

article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the

State of Karnataka. Two Hours.

(Ends)

ANNOUCEMENT RE: GOVERNMENT BUSINESS IN THE RAJYA SABHA DURING THE WEEK COMMENCING MONDAY, THE 26TH OF NOVEMBER ,2007

 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SURESH PACHOURI): Sir, With your permission Sir, I rise to announce that Government Business during the week commencing Monday, the 26th of November, 2007 will consist of:-

 

1. Consideration and passing of the Indian Boilers (Amendment) Bill, 1994.

2. Discussion on the Statutory Resolution seeking approval of the Proclamation issued by the President on the 20th November, 2007 under article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of Karnataka.

 

3. Consideration and passing of the Aircraft (Amendment) Bill, 2007 as passed by Lok Sabha.

 

4. Consideration and passing of the following Bills after they are passed by Lok Sabha:-

 

a. The Payment of Bonus (Amendment) Bill, 2007; and

b. The National Capital Territory of Delhi Laws (Special Provisions) Second

Bill, 2007:

5. Consideration and passing of the following Bills:-

 

The Labour laws (Exemption from Furnishing Returns and Maintaining and Miscellaneous Provisions, 2005;

The Sashstra Seema Bill Bal Bill, 2006

The Armed Forces Tribunal Bill, 2005

The Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) Union Territories Order (Amendment Bill, 2007.

 

6. Consideration and return of the following Appropriation Bills relating to the Supplementary Demands for Grants (General) for 2007-08 and Demands for Excess Grants (General) for 2005-06, after they are passed by Lok Sabha:-

 

a. The Appropriation (No.4) Bill, 2007; and

b. The Appropriation (No.5) Bill, 2007

 

7. Consideration and passing of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences and the Post Graduate institute of Medical Education and Research (Amendment) Bill, 2007, after it is passed by Lok Sabha.

(Ends)

(Followed by 1O)

SSS-KLG/12.05/1O

STATUS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN EIGHTEENTH REPORT OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON FOOD, CONSUMER AFFAIRS AND PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION

 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS, FOOD AND PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION (DR. AKHILESH PRASAD SINGH): Sir, I to lay on the Table a statement regarding status of implementation of recommendations contained in the Eighteenth Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Food, Consumer Affairs and Public Distribution.

(Ends)

REPLY TO THE SHORT DURATION DISCUSSION ON PROPOSAL TO SET UP SEZ IN NANDIGRAM, WEST BENGAL AND CONSEQUENT LARGE SCALE VIOLENCE.

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ߴ֮, ֟ ָ և, Ӥִ , ? ִ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ָ ֛ ִָ ִ߮ , ә և ִ߮ ֟ , և, ָ ֲ ִ߮ ϵ ָ ִ ׻֋ , ו ִ߮ ״ֻ , ßָ , ָ֕ ִ߮ ֟ ֲ ֮֟ , ָ -߮ ߙ ִ߮ ָ ֟ , ׻֋ ֛ ׻֋ ָ ֟

ϟ֯ : ָ, ֳָ ӓ ִ߮ ׻֋ פ ..(־֮֬)..

׿־ָ֕ . י : ߅ ָ - ߙ ִ߮ ׻֋ ָ ׻֋ ָ ׻֋ ָ ֟ ? ׻֋ ִ߮ ־ֵ ߮ ָ ָ ׻֋ ָ ִ߮ ׮ ֋, ו֋ , ־ֻ ִ֮ ֟ פ ֵ ָ ܵ ֜ ִ߮ ֙ ִ߮ ָ , ֜ , ָ , ׾ָ֓ ֲ , ָ , ֺ

1/ ָ

aka-nbr/1p/12:10

׿־ָ֕ 0 י (֟) : ָ ׾ָ֓ ִ߮ ֜ ֛ ֜ ֻ֟ ֋ ִ߮ ָ ָ , ִ߮ ֤ ׻֋ ֱ ߅ ß ׮ֻ ? ß ׮ֻ֮ ׿ֿ ָָ ֜֋, ӛÙ ֜֋Ӆ ָ ֮֜ , ӛÙ ָ ֮ ִ߮ ָ ֮ ֛ ׻֋ ִ߮ ֛ ָ ִ߮ ֤ ֮ ֮ ֤ ָ ִ߮ , , ־ֻ ׻֋ ָ ֲ ֵ ִ߮ ״ ׻֋ ָָ Ӥ֮ פօ ֮֮ ֱ ִָ ו ִ߮ , , ֟ ו ִ߮ , ִ߮ ָ ߟ , ָ ָ ֤״ֵ ִ ״ֻ֟ , ִ߮ ָ ״ֻ֟ , ׻֋ ֤֕ , ߮ ִ߮ ָ ָ ׻֋ ֲ ֱֻ ֟

ָ ֮֟ , ֕ ֟ , 20 ֻ ֟ ֲ ָ ָ ֛-֛ ֲֻ ֮֋ ֋ ֲ ֲֻ ָ ֯ ן ׮ֻ ֋ ֲֻ ֮ , ָ ִ߮ ׿ֿ և ָ Ӥ֮ ꅠ ֲֻ ֮ ָֿ ֯ ִ߮ , ׻֋ ָ , ָ ߾֮ ָ֬ ִ߮ ָ™ Ӥ ֵ֛ , ָ ֮֟ ִֵ ־ ־ ׸֮ ״׮Ù , ֵ֛ ֲֻ ֮־ֵօ ֮ ֛ ֲֻ ֮? 8 ִ߮ ֮ ֻ ֲֻ , ָ ִ߮ ֮ ֮ ֻ פ ָ פ , ו ִ߮ և, ׾ָ ־ ־ ָ פ, ִ߮ ׮ֻ פօ ߾֮ ß׾ , ֟ ֮ ֮ ֺ ֕ ָ Ӥ֮ , ָ Ӥ֮ ֮

֛ ִϟ ֲ ׾ָ ִ߮ ֮ , ֵ֤ ִ֟ Ù ֻ ־֮Դ ܵ ӡ ָ ֯ ׻֋ ׾ָ ִ߮ , ï™ פօ יױ֮ ׮ օ ָ, ָ ֵ֟ ֵ , , ֲ֕ ִ߮ ֋߅ ֕ Ӥ֮ օ ו֮ , , ִ ꅠ ֻܵ , ֟ ֲ ܵ ӡ ִ߮ , ֮֮ ֲ , ָ ֵ , ִ֮ וִָ ׌ ֮֮ , օ ֲֻ֟ ָ ָ ֤ ׻֋ ֮ ָ ꅠ Ӥ ֮֕ן ™ ֕ ָ Ӥ֮ օ ָ ? ָ ָ ֤ ָ և- - ׻ ֻ Ӿ ֻ , ָ և- , ָ ̸֕ ֵօ ָ ׻ ֵظ , ָ ֮ ֻ և, ׻ ֮ ֻ և, ֮ ֻ և ֮ օ ֟ ִ և , , , ֮ ָ ָ ָ ֛օ ('1q/vnk' ָ ָ)

-AKA/VNK-USY/1q/12.15/MP

׿־ָ֕ . י (֟) : ֲ ָ ָ , ֮ פ , ֟ ߮, ֚ ߮, ߮, ݵָ ߮ ׻ ֮ , ־֮Դ ׬׸ ֮ , ו֮ ָ ֮ , ִ߮ ָ ֮ , ֻ֟ ָ , ֻ֟ ָ ֮ և ֻ֟ ß ׻֋ ֋ ֋, , ָ ֋ ֋ ֟ߕ ָ ֻ֟ և, ָ֕Ӥ֕ ֻ ָ , ָ ָ ָָ ֤ , ָ ׻ , , , ׸ãן ֮ ֟ ו֮֟ ָև ֟ , ִ ִֻ ֮ , ָ ֻ֟ , ֻ֟ և ָ ָ և ָ ָ ֻ֟ , ָ ָ ֻ֟ ָ ׻ֲ ֮ , ָ ֟ ָ ֟ , ֕ -ֲָ , ׻֋ ֲ ִ֟ ָ ו֮ ֤õ ֟ , ָ ֤õ , ֵ֤ , ִ ָ ֻ֟ և ß , ֟ ָ , ו ֕ , ָ ֮ ֮ ֤ ָ ָ 껵֮ ׮ֻ , ֟ ֤ ָ ֤ ..(־֮֬).. ֕ ָ וִָ , ֕ ָָ וִָ , ֕ ָָ וִָ , ָָ וִָ ֛ ֤õ ֮ ֟ , ֮ Ӿ ֋ , ׯ ֮ ϵ ֋, ֯ ֋ , , ָ ֤õ ׯ ֮ ֤ ָ Ӹ פ ֋, ֮-ֻ ֋, Ӥ ֋߅ ֮-ֻ וִָ ָָ ߅ ֮ ׮ֻ֮ ׻֋ ־֕ ֺ , ֮ ֺ , ֮ פ ֋օ

ָ ֈ ֟ ָ ָ ֤õ ו֮ ֵ֤ ֻ֟ ֮֮ ִ ָ ֮֮ ָև , ָ ֤õ ֺ ֮֮ ָև , , ™ ֕ ֺ ֋ , ׮Ù , -׮Ù , , ִ , ֙ ײֻ , ׯ ֮ ָ וִָ , Ӹ ָ וִָ , ߾֮ ֻֻ ָ וִָ , ֮ ָ וִָ ו֮ -ִ ִ , ֕ ָ וִָ ֟ ָָ, Ù ֻ ָָ ָָ , ִ , ֟օ ֲ ִܵӡ ָ ֟ ֺ , ֮ פօ ָ ֮ ֵ֟ , ֮ ָ֕ , ָ ָ ֟ ֻ֟ , ׻֟ ֮ , ֮ օ ָ֕ ׻֋ ֕ , ('1r/mp' ָ ָ)

MP/1R/12.20

׿־ָ֕ . י (֟) : , , ָ - ְ ׮ֻ ױ analysis ֟ , dissection ֟ , ׻֋ ֻ֮ ׻֋ ֮ ָ , ָ ֺ , օ פ ָָ ֯ ֻ֟ ̸֕ ֟, ̺ ָ ֻ ָ ֻ ̺

, ָ ־ֻ ֵ ֵ ָ-ָ ֵ ֵ, ֌ֻև Ӥ ? ִ ֆ֤ ? ֌ֻև, ֠ Maoists, terrorists ָ ? ־ֻ ָ , ֤ ֤ ָ ֱ֮ , ָ ָ ָ ֱ֮ disclose , ֮ וִָ ׮ֳ֮ , ִ ֮ ׮ִ , ׻֋ ֱ֮ , , ָ֤ ׻֋ ָ , behind the scene, ߔ ֛֮ ִ , ֱ֮ ָ ֣-֣ ָ ףֵָ ״ֻ , ףֵָ ו֮ ׸ , ֵֻ , ףֵָ ״ֻ֟ ָ, ׸ ׸ָև ׸ , ִ ̤֕ ׸ ָ ףֵָ ֟ , ֮ ß ףֵָ ֮ ׿ֿ ֟ ֤ ӲӬ օ ֙ ֙ , ִ ִ , օ ևә ׻֋ ֮ ׻֋ , ָ ֤ ָ ֟֓ߟ , ָ ֣ ָ ָ ִ֮ ֋, ֮ ָ ׮Ե , ֮ ֯ ֟ ִ ֮ ֱֻ ֮ ֤ ָ ֮ ֺ

... ֟ ևԅ ֟ ֯ ִ֟ ו֮֟ ֤õ ָ ֓ ׻ֵ, ... ָ ֮ ׾ָ֓ ֛ ï™ ֛ ꅠ ֟ ׾ָ֓ ָ ֤õ , ׾ָ֓ ָָ ֮ ן ׮ִֵ ֮֮ ֵ㌟ ... ֮֮ ׮Ե ָָ ׻ֵ ָָ ׻ֵ ׯ֔ ָָ ׻ֵ, ָ ָ ֺ , ָ ... ֮֮ ׮Ե օ ָ ֟ ו ̴߮ ֟ , ֻ ʹ߮ ָ ׮ֳԸ , ֛ ִ ß ׮ֻ? ߕ ֮ ֮ ֺ ׻֋ ... ֮֮ ׻֋, industrial hubs ֮֮ ׻֋ ̴߮ ֛, ָ ̴߮ ? irrigated land , fertile land, ֕։ ʹ߮ ꅠ ֕։ ̴߮ ֕ ֮ ֟ , ׻֋ ֕։ ִ߮ ꅠ ̴߮ ? ӕָ ʹ߮ , ָ ֟ , ָ , ̴߮ ׿ֿ ꅠ ֤ ו ֮ ̴߮ , ָ ̴߮ ֤ ʹ߮ , ʹ߮ ָ , ϵ ָ ָ ̴߮ , compensation ״ֻ֮ compensation և , ָָ ֮ compensation ֤ , ֮ ו ʹ߮ , ־֕ , , ־֕ ̺ (1 S/MCM ָ ֿ:)

MCM-PK/1S/12-25

׿־ָ֕ 0 י (֟) : ֮ ֤ ֕ ׌וֿ֮ ߓ ׿ִֵ פ ֟ ָ ֮֟ 1980 ׿ִֵ 12 15 ָ פ ֟ օ ָ ߴ֟ פ ִ֮ ֓ ֯ ִ߮ ֵָ ׿ִֵ 12 15 ָ , ֟ ֜ 35 ָ פ ֵ օ ֕ ־ 50 ָ և ו֋, ֮ ָ ו֋ ָ ֺ ֵ ׿ִֵ 35 ָә ֜ ֛, 50 ָ 60 ָ 75 ָ ָ , ֮ ׿ִֵ ӟִ֕ ֟ և ָ ֓ , ֤õ ָ ִ߮ ו֮֟ ִ߮ ֺ ֮ ִ߮ ֯ ֺ ו֋, ־ ָ֮ ֮, ֜, ֮֯օ ָ ִ߮ ֺ ָ ִ߮ ֮ ָ ָ ִ߮ , ָ ָ ִ߮ ֯ ָ ֯ ױ ״ֻ ױ , ו ֮֯ ִ߮ ׯ ו֋ ߴ ֮ օ ָ ֋ ߱ ߅ ֤ ִ ֟ , ו֮֟ ִ ֮ ִ ֟ ִ֮ և , ָ ֮ ߅ ָ ֟ ӕָ ִ߮ ָ ֛ ֛ ָ ָ ָ֮ ֮ ָ ָ֮ ֮, ָ ֵ֮ ֋, ִָ֤߮ ֱֻ , ָ ֋ ױ - ֜ - ߴ֟ ֜߅ ָ ָֿ ָ ֵ ֵ ֋ ֣ ֵ֜ ֋օ ָ ߕ ׾ָ֓ և ׻ ֮֮ ָָ ϵ֟ ֻ , ϵ ֻ և ׻ ׌וֿ֮֠ ӲӬ ׸-ײ׻֮֙ ӲӬ ߅ ָ֮ ׻֋ ִ߮ ָ ׸֮ ׻֋ ִ߮ ֯ ֛ וִָ ׸֮ ֮֮ ׻֋ ִ߮ ֟ ִ߮ ׻֋ ָ - ִָ֤߮ ִ߮ ׿ ֟ ֛ ִָ֤߮ ָ ִ߮ ֮ ׿ ו֮֟ ָ ִָ֤߮ ִ߮ ׿ ֟ ׻֋ ָָ ֲֻ ֮֮ , ӟ ָָ ֲֻ ֮֮ ָ ֋ 15-20 ֻ ֲֻ ֮֮ ִ ֵ ֕ ׸֮ ֙ ֜ ֕ ָ ָ ָ ֮ ֮ ֮ ָ ן, ׻ ֮ ו ֕ ׸Ù ֵ֤ ֋, ֜ ӲӬ ֮ ֻ پ ޛÙ ָ ֜ ױ ꌙ׮ ޛÙ ֜, י ޛÙ ֜, ֤ ׮ִֻ ò ֜, ֲ 000 Ͽ օ

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ֯ ֤õ ֟ ӡ ֟ ָ ӡ ֟ ׻ ׻ ָָ ֮

׿־ָ֕ 0י : ,

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : , ֯օ ֯ ׻ ֮֋? ֮֋?......(־֮֬) ֮߅

׿־ָ֕ 0 י : ֯ ײ֮ ֕ ֟ , ֵ֤ ........(־֮֬)

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : , ײ֮ ֕

ֳ֯ן : ׻ ֮

׿־ָ֕ 0י : ֋, ׻ ָ ֮ և ָ ָ ֯ ׿ֵָ, ָ֮ ֓ , ֲ ֣ ֓ ָ ׻ ֯ ֲ ׻ ߅ ׻֋ ָָ ™ ָ ֯ ֲ ָ פ ꅠ (1TH ָ ֿ:)

GS-PB/1T/12.30

׿־ָ֕ . י : ֮֯ פ ׸, ָ ֯ פ ! .....(־֮֬)....

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ֯ ׸ .....(־֮֬)....

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ֿ־ӟ ֮ ߅ .....(־֮֬).... ֯ և .....(־֮֬).... ֯ ֮ ו֋.....(־֮֬).... ֯ , .....(־֮֬).... ™ .....(־֮֬)....

0 ִ ӛָ : ָ, ӡ ֟ , ֯ ׮֋.....(־֮֬)....

׿־ָ֕ . י : ֳ֯ן , ֟ ֟ .....(־֮֬)....

ק : ָ, ӡ , .....(־֮֬)....

شری شاہد صدیقی : سر، منتری جی کہہ رہے ہیں کہ ایسا ہونا چاہئے، ویسا ہونا چاہئے ۔۔مداخلت۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ק , ߕօ .....(־֮֬)....

׿־ָ֕ . י : ֳ֯ן , ֵ֤ ָ ו֮֟ ֮ , ֮ , ֤ ֮ ֺ ֯ ָ ִ - ֵ, ֮ ֵօ .....(־֮֬).... ָ ׻ , ևֻև֮ Ù ָ , ֮ ֯ ֟֟ ֮ , ֮ ֯ ֟֟ ™ ׾ָ֓ ֻ

ָ ֲꌙ ִ֮ߵ ֤õ ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ ָ ֵօ ֮ ָ Maoism , ֯ ױ֮ , ֯ ׾ָ ֛ ׾ֵ , ֵ֤ ו֮֟ և , ֮ և ָ ָ ֮, ֵ֤ ִ־ , ָ ִֵ , ֯ ֮֟ ֋ 'ism' , , ָ ֳ ֮֟ , ָ ֳ ׸ꌙ , ߕ ֮ , ߕ ׸ꌙ ָ ߕ ֮ ֟ , ָ ָ ֮ ֟ ִֵ ָ ֮ ֟ , ָ ִֵ ָ ֮ ֟ 'ism' , 'ideology' 'theory' ׾ָ , ָ ߕ , ָ ן ִ֟ , ߅ ָ ן , ֲ ֟ ߕ ֯ , tolerance, ߕ ׾ß ֟ tolerate , tolerance ָ ֲ ߕ ָ ָ ִ֮ ֤֮ tolerance ֤, Ӥ ֤֮ , ׻ֵ ֤֮ ָ ֮ ! ָ ֓ , ֌׻֕ ָ ֓ , ֵֻ ָ ֓ әֻ ֌׸ ָ ֓ ָ ֲ ־ֲ ׿ֿ , ֵ , ָ-ָ ָ 99 ָ ؾ , ןׯϵ ָ ֲ ֛ ׌ ׻ ׌ , ׌ , ָ ֮ , ֮־ , ֮µ ֲ ֛ ׌ ֮ ןׯϵ֟օ ׻֋ ߕ Ӥ , ֮֮ ׻֋ ָ ָ֕ ׻֋, ָ֕ , , ִֆ, ָ֕ , ֟ , ָ֕ , ߟ ߟ֮ ֲ ߕ ָ ߟ ָ ֯ ִ , ֵ֤ ߟ ֮ ׻֋ ֯ ֵ, ָ ֤ ߟ ֛ ãָ ָ֬ ָ ֮ ֲ ֮ ֵ ֮ ֮-֮ ™ ָ Maoism ֌ֻև ֵ, ׸Ù , Ӥ ָ֬ ָ , ָָ , ָָ ֮ ִ֟ 99 ָ ֮ ֮ ꅠ (1 ָ ָ)

-GS-PB/ASC-SKC/12.35/1U

׿־ָ֕ . י (֟) : Ӥ ָ ֟ , bullet ballot ӡ ִ֬ ֆ, ֕ ִ ׾ָ , ָ ֯ ֠ innocent ָ ׻ֵ ֻ֋, ָ , ָ ָ, -ֲָ ױ ֕ , ß֮ ֻ ...(־֮֬)..

פ ס־ : ׮ ָ ֋ ֯ ׻֋ ָև ?.. (־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ־ֻ-־ֲ ֻօ ..(־֮֬)...״Ù פ ס־ ..(־֮֬)..., ײֻ ֯ ך

׿־ָ֕ . י : ߴ֮ ָ Ͽ ֵ ֋, ֯ ֟ ֟ ו֋ ָ ןׯϵ ָߠ ׮ֱ , ֮ ܵ ֟ ָ ״ֻ naxalite ִ ׻֋, ֮ , ֮֯ , ֮֯ , , ָ ֣ Ù , ֤ ֵ֟ 33 battalions ָ ֣ ֯ ֱ Ӥ ? ֮ ײֻ , ֱ Ӥ , ֟ ׻֋ ָ , ָ ףֵָ ֲ ֟ ֟ , ֲ ֯ ֟ ֟ ֯ ֿ , ֯ ִ߮ ָ ֻꅠ ֤ ֮ ָ Ӥ economic elements ָ ָ߲ , ָ ָ , ֯ ֤ ׻֋ ֤ ֟ ָ ָ ֻ֯ , ֯ ֻ֯ ֟ ׻֋ פ , ָ ָ ֣ , ֻ Ӥ Ӥ ֟ , economic justice ,ֻ Ù all round development , ™ ָ֠ ™ ־ ™ , holistic י˵ ָ ™ ß ֮ , ׻ ß ָ ױ פ ָ և , ָ֯ , ָ ָ ٙ ׻֮ և և ? ֿ ֋ , Ϥ ֋ , ֻ ֻ և ֯ ָ ֯ ָ ֯ ָ? ָ ִ ָ ֺ , ֺ Ծ ֋օ ָ ֱ , ™ , ֯ ִֻ ָ ֻ -י ? פ ֯ -י , ֯ ׻֋ פ ָ ־ ™ ֋ פ ֯ holistic ™ ֣ օ ׻֋ , ֮֯ Ͽ ֵ , ָ ֺ ֌ ״ֻ ָ ֓ ָ , ֻ ֮ ָ , ӡ ׾ ӡ ׾ ֠ rule of law ׾ , Ӥ ׾ ִ , ֲ ֣ , ֜ ׾ , ָ ֱֻ ֟ , ֟ ֜ ָ ֮ ֯ ֮ ֤ ֮ ..(־֮֬).. ֮֟ ֮֯ , ־ֲ օ ...(־֮֬)...

.. ׻ֵ : ֆ֤ ֯ ž֮ ָ ֆ֤ ,..(־֮֬)..Ùײֿ ...(־֮֬).. ֤ ֲ֮ ֆ֤ ֯ ֆ֤ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ׻ֵ , ֯ ֤ ...(־֮֬)..Let the hon. Minister complete his reply, then you may seek clarifications. Right now, you are not even allowing the hon. Minister to proceed...(Interruptions)... ׻ֵ , ׻ֵ ...(־֮֬).. , ײֻ օ ...(־֮֬). օ There should be order in the House. ...(Interruptions)... ֯ ך ....(־֮֬).. , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)..We have not completed and you go on...(Interruptions)...

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: He is misleading the House....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, Mr. Trivedi. It will not be recorded...(Interruptions)...Please, let the hon. Minister complete. Then, if you want...(Interruptions)... ֯ ־ֲ ״ֻ ֯ ...(־֮֬)..

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: *

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: *

ֳ֯ן : ...(־֮֬).. This is not correct...Interruptions)... (Followed by LP/ 1W)

HK/LT/12.40

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ֆ֤ ...(־֮֬).. ֟ ֯..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ..(־֮֬).. Let him conclude. ..(Interruptions)..

ֵָ : ֳ֯ן ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : , ֯ ך..(־֮֬).. Let him conclude. ..(Interruptions).. Let him conclude. Then you can ask..(Interruptions)..

. ִ ӛָ : ӡ ֓և , ִ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

..׻ֵ : ׸ꮙי, ևә ֵָ, ־֮Ը ׸ ..(־֮֬)..߱ ״׮Ù ..(־֮֬).. ״׮Ù ..(־֮֬).. ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ..(־֮֬).. ״׮Ù , ..(־֮֬)..֯ , ..(־֮֬)..

֯ ך..(־֮֬).. Please sit down. ..(Interruptions).. Let the hon. Minister conclude. ..(Interruptions).. Nothing will go on record. ..(Interruptions).. Nothing will go on record. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: *

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: *

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* Not recorded


MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Hon. Minister has not concluded his reply. Once he concludes, then, if you want, you can seek clarification. ..(Interruptions).. Please let him conclude. ..(Interruptions).. ߓ-ߓ ֯ ֟ ֻ ֛..(־֮֬).. ..(־֮֬).. ֮֯ ׸Ù ..(־֮֬). ֵ֤..(־֮֬)..֮֯ ׸Ù ..(־֮֬).֯ ߓ ..(־֮֬)..

֮֯ ׸Ù ..(־֮֬)..֯ ֮..(־֮֬).. ־ֲ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, the last point that I want to make is the point relating to Articles 355 and 356. I am very happy that the responsible Members did not make any suggestion relating to Articles 356 and 355, but they were hinting.

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ִ ־ֻ ֵ ..(־֮֬).. ׸ïֲֻ ..(־֮֬).. Is she irresponsible? ..(Interruptions).. ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: I do not hold you as irresponsible, but your colleague ..(Interruptions).. The point that I was making was that there were not many Members who suggested that the Government of India should use Article 356 against that Government. ..(Interruptions).. I am saying there were not many Members who made that kind of suggestion and there were some who were indirectly suggesting that that should be done. But you shall have to bear in mind that if you are asking this thing to be done against one State, you won't be allowed to say that this thing should not be done against another State. ..(Interruptions)... Again, we will ask you a question ..(Interruptions)..

DR. FAROOQ ABDULLAH: Article 356 should be removed from the Constitution of India. We actually want Article 356 to be removed from the Constitution of India because you tried to dismiss Governments. We do not agree with you. It has happened in the past. West Bengal has faced it in the past. I hope, Sir, you will never use this article ever in the history of India in future...(Interruptions)..

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: But you swear by the Constitution that you are duty-bound to use it. ..(Interruptions)..

Dr. FAROOQ ABDULLAH: No, you should never use it. ..(Interruptions)..

ֳ֯ן : ٙ 356 ֟ ו֋..(־֮֬)..

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: The last point that I was making was that in our Constitution it is provided that the Government of India in certain circumstances may discuss issues with the State Government to bring about a kind of coordination and cooperation on certain important issues for which purpose the directions can be given and advisories can be sent. (Contd. by 1x/KSK)

KSK/12.25/1X

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL (CONTD): ....for which purpose, the directions can be given, advisories can be sent. If discussions are held, directions are given, that does not mean that automatically, it will lead to article 356 and removal of the Government. Now, article 356 relates to the breakdown of the constitutional machinery in the State. It may be a political breakdown, or economic breakdown, and law and order situation also. But, when and in what fashion, it has to be done, that has also to be considered. Supposing, a few villages are affected, will it allow any Government at the national level to impose President's Rule or any kind of rule in the entire State as such? And, what did we do in the past? We cannot forget that also. Now, when things happened in some other States and there were demands made and so many people died -- I am not mentioning the name the States. You all know the names of the States where these things happened -- you did not impose article 356, the President's Rule, over there. That is also to be remembered in mind when we are suggesting this. If you are sitting here and if you are sitting there, your stand should be the same. If you are taking one stand while sitting here and another stand while sitting there, it will create problem for yourself. But, if you are...(Interruptions)

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: What stand did you take on Bihar? You dissolved the Assembly in Bihar. In Jharkhand, what did you do? Don't preach to us...(Interruptions).

. ִ ӛָ : ײָ ֮֯ ... (־֮֬) ... ™ן ֮ ֮֯ ... (־֮֬) ...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please, sit down.

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: The point I am making is that the framers of the Constitution have provided article 355 and article 356 with an intention of allowing the Union Government to take appropriate action in certain situations, but these articles have to be used very-very carefully. Mistakes can be committed and then, we can cite the instances as to when the mistakes were committed - when nine State Governments were dissolved; when in nine States, President's Rule was imposed. We are not referring to those instances. But, while discussing this issue, Dr. Babasaheb Amebdkar said, "I hope that there will arise no occasions to make use of this article." And, What did he say? He said, "You do it in a very careful manner; when it is absolutely necessary." I can assure this House, apart from the mistakes committed in the past by that Government, or some other Government, or someone else, or by ourselves, we would be very careful in using these articles. We would not say that when occasion arises, it would not be used, but we will not use it lightly or we will not use it in a manner which will be suspicious, which will not be acceptable to those who understand the provisions of the Constitution. I cannot say more than this. It is not necessary.

I would like to congratulate Shrimati Sushma Swaraj. She presented the case in a proper manner and I would like to say that all other Members also presented the case in a proper manner. Shrimati Brinda Karat, as usual, in her eloquent style, put the facts on behalf of her party in a very-very appropriate manner and I thank all the hon. Members who participated in this debate and made excellent contribution. Thank you, Sir. (Ends)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ (֬ Ϥ) : ֮־֤ ֳ֯ן ߅

ֳ֯ן : ִ , ֯ ֻ ׸ױ֮ ה

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֻ ׸ױ֮

ֳ֯ן , Ӥִ ׾ֵ ָ ֮ ִ߸ ׾ß ֓ ־ֲ ӡ ֮ ֲ֕ , ֮ ߅ ߮ Ͽ ֋ ꅠ Ӥִ Ѿ ֆ֤ ӡ ־ֲ ֮ , ֳ֯ן , ֓և , ָָ , ָ ָָ , ָ֕ ֋ ֵ ֕ ָָ ָ ָ, ӡ ֤Կ ꅠ ָ ֲ֕ ִ (1և ָ ֿ:)

PSV-GSP/1Y/12.50

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ׸ױ֮ ה ׸ױ֮

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ Ͽ ֆ֤ ן ֯ ־ֲ פ ָ ֟ ٣ ֮ , ֟ , ָ Ӥ ֲֻ Ӥ

ָ Ͽ ׸ ֵ, ו ׻֋ ֛ Ӥ ֲֻ ָ Ӥִ ֵ֮ ֵ , ָָ ֮ ãׯ֟ ӡ ָ ֮֕ן ֛ ֕֟ ֋ þֵ ֮ ִ֬ ׮֯֙? ָ ӡ Ӥִ ׻֋ ָ ֮ ֋, ӡ , ָ ֯ ־ֲ , ֯ ֮֮ ָ Ӥִ ֆפ , ֣ף֟ ֆ֤ , ׮֯֙ ֵ֮ ֵ , ָָ ָ ֮ ן ֟ ? ׮֯֙ ֵԵ֮ ֯ ָ , ֮ ִ ֯ ״ֻ ? Ͽ , ׸ ֵօ ֵ ־ֲ

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ekanath Thakur. Please seek clarifications only.

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (MAHARASHTRA): Sir, I have only two questions. During the course of the debate and even earlier on a previous day, a senior Member of the Treasury Benches went on record to say that 'naxalism' is not a form of 'terrorism'. I repeatedly asked the hon. Home Minister then, and, I ask him now to clear his opinion. This is my first question.

Now I come to my second question. I will not ask any further question. Yesterday, during the course of the debate, hon. Member, Mr. Sitaram Yechury went on record to say that what is happening there...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You don't ask clarification on what other Members have said. (Interruptions) You please seek a clarification from the hon. Minister. What Mr. Sitaram Yechury said is not the point here.

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR: That concerns the Home Minister. The question of law and order...(Interruptions)... Mr. Sitaram Yechury said that the people there, the so-called Maoists, have waged a war against the State.

ֳ֯ן : օ Seek the clarification.

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR: I want to know from the hon. Minister whether there are any people there who have waged a war against the State, and, if that is so, does he, as the Home Minister, consider that to be a part of his responsibility.

ֳ֯ן : 0 0 ׻ֵօ

0 0 ׻ֵ (ָӛ) : ֳ֯ן , ӡ ־ֻ , ו֮ ־ֲ ֵ , ָ ׯ֮ ֤ ִ֬ ִ֮ ֮ ־ã

כ ֮ , 敛 ֋ ׻ Ù , ִ - ֮֯ օ Ӥִ ֻ ֮ ׻֋ ܵ֟ ֻߴ ֿ ֣ ߮ פ 18 ֋ ϴ , 20 ָ ֋ ֤ 300 ֤״ֵ ֯և և ֣ ...(־֮֬)...

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: This is highly objectionable. (Interruptions)

0 0 ׻ֵ : ֯ ꌿ֮ ...(־֮֬)...

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Sir, this is highly objectionable. How can you allow this, Sir? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You are raising new points. (Interruptions) , ֮֟ ...(־֮֬)... Ӥ , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)...

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Sir, how can he be allowed to level...(Interruptions)... We cannot tolerate it. (Interruptions)

ֳ֯ן : Ӥ , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ߕ ך ...(־֮֬)...

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: This is not fair that he is...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: It is not for you. (Interruptions) You please sit down. (Interruptions) You cannot bring new facts...(Interruptions)... Ӥ , , ױ ֯ ...(־֮֬)...

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, what is this? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Madhu, please sit down. (Interruptions)

(Contd. by sk-1z)

SK/1Z/12.55

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I am telling the hon. Member whatever I have to tell. In the meantime, you are getting up and protesting. What can I do? How can I control? Please ...(Interruptions).. You also have to cooperate if the House has to be conducted. ...(Interruptions).. No, no, this is not cooperation Mr. Madhu. Don't say that this is cooperation. Mr. Ahluwalia, you are raising certain points ...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: But, these are not new points. ...(Interruptions).. Yesterday, I raised these points.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no ...(Interruptions).. It is the time for clarifications. ...(Interruptions).. You have not raised these points during the debate ...(Interruptions).. I cannot ...(Interruptions).. You have not raised these points during the debate. ...(Interruptions)..

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: It is a part of the proceedings. ...(Interruptions).. It is a part of the proceedings. ...(Interruptions).. I raised it yesterday. ...(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The Chair is capable of controlling. I do not need anybody's assistance.

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: My apprehension is that these three people, Sukur Ali, Tapan Ghosh and Salim Lashkar, are under the custody of CID, Kolkata. They should be taken over by the CBI and their security should be tightened because my apprehension is that they will be eliminated by the 'Red Cadre. ...(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Dr. Bimal Jalan. ...(Interruptions).. Dr. Bimal Jalan. ...(Interruptions)..

DR. BIMAL JALAN (NOMINATED): Sir, I am asking for a clarification on the whole question of Special Economic Zones. On this question of Special Economic Zones, the hon. Home Minister told us that the Government was looking again at the policy aspects and so on. My query is, whether the Government will be prepared to examine the basic and the fundamental issue of Special Economic Zones, because it seems to me, if I may just explaining the point I am making, that we have turned the whole policy of Special Economic Zones upside down. It has nothing to do with Nandigram. In the rest of the world, you decide where the Special Economic Zones will be and then you invite applications. What we have done in our country is that we invite applications for SEZs from private parties or private interests and then say that they will set up the Special Economic Zones here or there or elsewhere and then the Government intervenes to acquire land or they intervene to acquire the land. Now, this is putting the whole thing upside down. The clarification that I am asking is, would he be prepared, the Government, to consider this fundamental question that do not invite applications for SEZs. You decide, public decides, public interest decides, the Government decides where the Special Econmic Zone would be, where there is no tension between the agriculture and industry. Because once you create tension between agriculture and industry, you are killing the golden goose, which is industry or agriculture. There is no country in the world, as far as I know and I can say this with authority, where there is this tension between agriculture and industry. You have to make industry compatible with the interests of landowners and agriculture. And, that will only be done if you just completely change the process. So, this is the clarification that I am asking. Are you only changing some of the rules, or, are you willing to change also the basic concept of SEZ that instead of inviting applications, I will decide, that is, the Government of India will decide where the Special Economic Zones will be after taking into account all the environmental consideration. Thank you.

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Thank you, very much, Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir. I will just seek a direct clarification. Sir, law and order is rightly a State subject and whenever you say something ...(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The whole House cannot seek clarification. Please cooperate. It is not possible. Everybody wants to ask. I can allow three or four clarifications. I cannot again allow the entire House to seek clarifications. This is not correct.

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, there is a divergent view from what I just heard from you, Sir. The Home Secretary, Government of West Bengal, has gone on record... If I may please have your attention, Mr. Home Minister, Sir. Sir, ֯ ־֕ օ Sir, the Home Secretary, Government of West Bengal, has very categorically said that there were no Maoists. This is number one. The second thing he has said on record is that the firing had been done by the CPI (M) cadres. The Governor of West Bengal said on 15th March that the firing which the police did against the people -- I can understand if there were extremists or this and that, but those people who were fired at -- did not belong to any of this category. (Contd. by ysr-2a)

 

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