DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE (CONTD.): But, unfortunately, still, the committee which was formed to resist acquisition of land thought not only on some other political reason for resisting the land acquisition, which continued, but on other reasons also. Unfortunately, the whole process continued in this way for eleven months. So, irrespective of the political colours, so many people had to flee away from their homes and, definitely, Sir, there was a huge pressure to see to it that at least on the humanitarian ground, people should come back.
During the whole process, we thought on behalf of the party that not only the police force can solve the problem, but also there should be persistent socio-economic process going on for a settlement. As you all know, Sir, the veteran freedom fighter and our leader, Comrade Ashok Ghosh took the initiative to have an all-party meeting at Mahajyoti Sadan in Kolkata but, unfortunately, the Leader of the Opposition, suddenly, in the midst of the peace talks, left. We were taken aback because again the peace process was spoiled.
After some time, the former Chief Minister, Comrade Jyoti Basu, also took initiative and cordially invited the Leader of the Opposition to have talks but, unfortunately, even that failed. As you see, we had all these processes continuously. There was Bhumi Ucched Pratirodh Committee which continued their process of resisting all these things. So, we wanted to have an amicable settlement but we could not reach that. We have done all these things, yet we failed. Until and unless all people are allowed to come back to their homes, relief is given to them, all assistance to have their livelihood is given and all development work by Panchayat of Nandigram is started, real peace is not there.
Lastly, I must mention that it is our apprehension that what happened in Kolkata yesterday--start of violence on Tasleem Nasreen-- was not a current burning issue. But, suddenly it flared up and along with it the Nandigram issue got connected. It is our apprehension that it could have taken the colour of communal violence in a sensitive area and hence stern action was taken. Sir, I would say that it has taken a political colour and, for some, it is a one-point agenda to go on continuing with this issue so that again we fail. We feel that a persistent socio-economic process should go on and people should be taken into confidence. We appeal to all the people, particularly to the intellectuals of the State that we all should join our hands together to find a solution, at least for the large part of the suffering humanity over there.
I once again appeal to the Opposition leaders, to my friends also here. We already have tried on two occasions for peace, let us try again, and I request all to join hands together to find a lasting solution to this vexed problem. Thank you.
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Pp 599 Onwards will be issued as a Supplement.
DR. CHANDAN MITRA
(NOMINATED): Thank you, Mr.
Vice-Chairman, Sir. I rise to speak not
to score any political points but to express my anguish as a journalist, as a
Bengali, as an Indian and above all as a human being. Sir, particularly as a journalist of 25
years' standing, I have seen a lot of terror and a lot of bloodshed, in
different parts of the country starting with Punjab, the North-East,
DR. CHANDAN MITRA (CONTD.): This
fundamental question needs to be debated and this has not been brought out so
far. We have heard the hon. Home
Minister, sitting here right now, yesterday explaining the kind of steps the
Government of India is taking to try and combat the menace of Maoist insurgency
in different parts of the country. It is
being done through the State machinery.
This fight has to be done through the State machinery, not through a
private army of a political party. Just
imagine the situation that if this is allowed and territories are marked out in
the name of different political parties, what will be the condition of
I do not want to go into the other points. Many of which have already been made. But, the fundamental question I would like to raise, first, is this. Is this the correct method to fight the Maoist insurgency even assuming that everything is a Maoist conspiracy there? Secondly, has the State Government even attempted to compile the list of people who are missing? I am not talking about the dead. Let us go by the Government figures. But, there are hundreds and, maybe, thousands of people gone missing. Wherever we went, people talked about their husbands and sons missing. Everybody said 'missing' is a synonym for 'dead' in Nandigram. So, when a person is missing for two months or three months or two weeks or three weeks, it is believed that the person is no more. Why has this figure of missing not been tabulated yet? It is because if you actually tabulate the figure of missing, you will find that the number of dead goes up very substantially from what it is today? Why is it that for over so many months disturbance is going on? The people who are supposed to be the mastermind has not been arrested, whether from that side or this side or from third side or the fourth side? Why is it that two of the main criminals -- Sukur Ali and Tapan Ghosh -- of the Chota Angaria massacre were, actually, arrested or rather apprehended by the people of that area when they were trying to flee Nandigram during the violence of last fortnight? They were produced in a court when they tried to get away with false evidence. Why is it that the people, who perpetrated the crimes, even in the past, have not been apprehended? Is this the way to bring peace, law and order and cooperation among all parties? If you have political vendetta, the counter will only be that the people, actually, become Maoists. They will become terrorists, because if they believe that there is no justice, there is no system and their grievances are not going to be redressed through the system. If you resist, you are going to be thrown out of your house, your woman will be raped and you will be driven out of the place. So, what will the people do?
Again, I say that this is no way to bring out normalcy as people have said. Many senior party functionaries there have said that Nandigarm is now terror-free and normalcy has been restored. I am very sorry. If this is the normalcy, it is the normalcy of the graveyard. With deep sadness I have to say that I speak not as anything else, but primarily as a journalist. I feel extremely upset and disturbed with what has happened and the lack of protection. This was going on all these years.
Finally, because of the efforts of the media very much has been brought out and I hope the lessons will be internalised and something will be learnt out of it so that Nandigram does not become a by-word for terror and trauma.
conclusion, I can only recall, Mr. Ahluwalia also
referred to, some of Rabindranath Tagore's
poems. I will conclude with one of them,
because this is very apt in this kind of a situation. With your permission I will take just half a
minute. (CONTD. BY USY "
DR. CHANDAN MITRA (CONTD.): In the context of Jalliawala Bagh, Rabindranath Tagore wrote (the hon. Member may please fill in Bengali quotation). I would not translate it. I am sure the meaning has not been lost. Thank you, Sir, (Ends)
SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (
Sir, you have
just now appealed that every Member should adhere to his point of view. I will not go into those details that have
been repeated ad nausea in this
House. The facts are as clear as the
Sun. This event of Nandigram
is a sad chapter in the post-independent
(Contd. by 4g -- VP)
SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (CONTD. ): And, please remember all the Communist literature. At one time, in my college days, when I read Das Capital, I was a great admirer of communism. But, I knew that there was an element of violence in it. Therefore, we, young men, departed from that ideology. And what Alexander Solzhenitsyn said, I repeat, "Pravada contains no truth and Izvestia is all falsehood." And, that is so common about Communist literature everywhere, which has been proved once again by my esteemed colleague, Shri Ram Jethmalani, by pointing out the anomalies and idiosyncrasies that have been there in the literature that has been circulated.
Sir, in this House we saw today, politics makes strange bedfellows. We saw the real face of the Congress also today. For the Congress, for the first time, Congress is for both. When I heard the speeches of the Congress Members; they are for both. They are for truth, they are for reconciliation and they are for forgiveness. I wonder from where the Congress has found this new incarnation of forgiveness when there is violence. When it is the duty of the Centre to ensure that there is law and order and the State is run according to the Constitution, the people who are in power are talking of forgiveness. Therefore, Sir, because of this, there is this alliance. Because the Communists are supporting the Congress Government, we must know, and I strongly suspect that the nuclear deal has also led to the Nandigram deal. That is why, today, the Congress people are trying to come to the support of the Communists and are talking of a way to think of compassion and forgiveness. On the one side, they want to strike, but they are willing to strike and afraid to wound. ..(Interruptions)..
SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: We are willing to strike and we are willing to wound. ..(Interruptions)..
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Why do you disturb?
EKANATH K. THAKUR: They are willing to strike, but afraid to wound because
they will lose their chair. This is the
real face of the Congress. You are
willing to strike because you are attacking your partners on whose shoulders
you stand in the Government. Then, you
are afraid to wound because you lose your chair. This is your concern for the farmers of
(Continued by PK/4H)
SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (CONTD.):
Sir, please allow me some more time. Sir, please understand the Communist
Party, (CPM) is carrying out a unique experiment in this country by recruiting
their cadres in the police services. If
you see the record of the
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, please conclude.
SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR: Sir, in Nandigram, it is Ashoka Mitra who is saying that the lumpen elements were called to duty in urgent times and in difficult times. That is how Nandigram has happened.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN : Now, please conclude.
SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR: Maha Shveta Devi has said, "Nandigram is a killing field." Shri Gautam Ghose has said, "I am ashamed to be called a Communist." Governor Gandhi has said, "Nandigram is a war zone." Shri Priyaranjan Dasmunsi has gone on record that what has happened in Nandigram is State-sponsored terrorism. Sir, it is a danger if the CPM Government goes scot-free. Therefore, I appeal to you that let us pass a unanimous Resolution in this House condemning the collaboration and collusion between the Government, the Party and the hooligans in Nandigram. An all-Party delegation should go and try to establish peace there and all the people should be allowed to lead a decent and dignified life. (Ends)
SHRI ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE
(KERALA): Sir, I thank you for
having given me the opportunity to speak on the Nandigram
issue. As per everybody, it is on the SEZ, Special
Economic Zones. But a lot of Economic Zones are being given permission; why
Before Nandigram, in
SHRI ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE (CONTD.): Most of the
evictees were Muslims, but when the matter was raised, everybody thought that
it was being given a communal angle. But now it is evidently clear; wherever
eviction took place in
Sir, I fully
endorse Shri Madani's stand
-- whenever we speak against the Communist Party, they resort to Islamic
extremism. On the national and international arena, they always pose to be the
saviours of Islam. But if even a word is spoken about Communist Party, then
Islamic extremism and minority extremism come in. This is happening here also,
and that is why, I wished to respond to comrade Yechury's
remarks. We did not expect this from the Left parties, especially Communist
Party, because whenever Indian Muslims are treated badly anywhere in
Coming back to Nandigram,
I had a chance to go to Nandigram after the March
incident. I would not repeat the things said by Sushmaji
and others here; the situation there is pathetic. Whatever happens, whether it
is laying of road or displacement due to anything
else, 90 per cent of the affected people are Muslims. Nobody is talking about
that; everybody is talking about farmers and others. Of course, Nandigram is a beautiful place. We could go there only on
the scooter; the first thing we saw was a beautiful pond and fertile land. It
is definitely not fit to be made a chemical hub; that is for sure. In Kerala, we adore Shri Buddhadeb Bhattacharya, the Chief Minister of
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Thank you for sticking to the time. Now, Shri Abani Roy.
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Sir, we are opposing this after taking everything there into consideration -- the problem of farmers, the problem of the agricultural land, problem of food scarcity that would occur in the long run, which the Prime Minister had also said, and so on. Considering all this, we are against these SEZs in toto. That is one point.
have discussed the question of violence in this House several times, whether it
were Gujarat, whether it were
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SHRI ABANI ROY (CONTD): .....attack on the Biharis, or
the ULFAs creating problems everyday, or some
problems in Tripura also, ethnic disturbances and
others. We have discussed all these
things here. Similarly, if violence had
happened in Nandigram, it is correct that we are
discussing whether violence will be there or not, or whether violence will be
stopped or not, or who has done it, how he has done it, is a separate
question. But, here, the question is of
violence. No doubt, as a Member of this
(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair)
As a member of the Left Front also, I am feeling very much depressed as to how these things happened there. The Chief Minister, after uttering a yes, withdrew it. But, to add to it, the Haldia Development Authority gave the notice saying that acquisition of land would be there. Bhumi Ucched Pratirodh Committee was formed only for this reason that they won't allow their land to be acquired by HDA or whatever it was. They were not ready to give the land. In that particular group, whether you admit or not, not only the people of BJP, which is not there at all; some Trinamool people are there; some Congress people are there; CPI is there; and, CPI(M) is also there. If we go through the media reports and other things, then in media also, it has been uttered by a particular old man that he was with CPI, and now, he is with CPI(M) and if they want to take the land, he will not give his land even if he has to leave CPI(M). Whatever it may be, the largest party in the Left front is CPI(M), and the Chief Minister, the Home Minister, and the Information and Broadcasting Minister is the same person. So, duty is there to stop this type of violence and being the Home Minister, he should collect information on what is going on there. So, in the month of January, 2007, when the situation was like that, at that time, he should have taken the charge and got the information from the Police Department in this regard. It is the duty of the Chief Minister and the Government itself to go there and stop all these types of incidents, but they did not want to do it. He said, "Scrap the notice." He said that there would be no chemical hub. So, if, as the Chief Minister, he would have gone there to convince the people, I think, this sort of incident would not have taken place. Anyway, after all these incidents happened, and in what manner they happened, whether we agree or not, we are taking some sections of the media which are helping us, and we are not taking the sections of the media which are not helping us. So, we have to believe the media that whatever they are showing or writing, something is correct, if not fully correct. Whatever photographs have appeared in the electronic media or print media, we have to see that something is there. So, looking at all these things, I think, it is sheer failure of the West Bengal Government to protect the people of Nandigram; to go the people and convince them that nothing is going to happen there, and they should maintain peace.
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So, as far as
the question of Maoists or the outsiders is concerned, the Government should
not say that for eleven months, a District or a small block is unable to be
controlled. I think, these are not the good words used
by the Government or the Chief Minister.
(Interruptions) Yes, I am a part of the Government. Till now, I say this thing. (Interruptions) Why I am saying this thing, I
will tell you. We are part of this
Government also. We will ask this
Government also. Don't think that I will
leave you. If we are conscious enough,
and, we go deep into it, then, this thing would not happen. The Haldia
Development Authority is also controlled by the CPI(M). Notice has been served by the CPI(M) in that way, which is not known to us. We have raised the issue inside the Left
Front also. Apart from that, as far as
the question of Naxalites and Maoists is concerned, I
would request the Home Minister to investigate into the matter. If there is any naxalite
or Maoist, take whatever action should be taken by the Central Government or
the State Government. I want to know if
the State Government has written to you that there are Maoists and for that
send the police forces. I do not know.
But if it is there, in any part of the
One minute, Sir. Sir, other things have been mentioned by many
hon. Members. I am not going to repeat
them. But, by any means, restoration of
peace and harmony is required there. For
that you have to win the confidence of the people and the confidence of other
political parties. And, if they do not
want to kill any citizen of
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MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Abani Roy, you please address me.
SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (
MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Joshi, just to tell you, the time taken by the speakers from 'Others' category so far has far exceeded than the time taken by the speakers from all the parties on this debate. The allocated time is 28 minutes, but the time taken has exceeded all other parties. That is for your information.
SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: That is your generosity. We should get that as a matter of right.
Sir, I have the
largest possible experience in this House of farmers' movements. I have been active in the anti-SEZ moments
not only in Maharashtra but also in Madhya Pradesh,
(Contd. by 4n-ysr)
SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): I look at it in a very prosaic and logical way. I was hoping to find some solutions to some of the problems that I was facing in the debate that has now lasted for six hours. There were accusations, there were counter-accusations, and there was even a hilarious claim that the NGOs, the RSS and the Muslim fundamentalists had come under the banner of Maoists and attacking the CPI(M) Government, and then there was also a defence from the Treasury Benches of the Maoists and how great Mao was. I think the Congress Party will accept that. But I did not get any reply to the questions that I was facing.
Sir, the questions are very briefly as follows:
One, why was the Nandigram area of Midnapore District of all the places chosen for this particular SEZ? Because it is a lush green area, a very fertile agriculture area and the only advantage that it has is that it is closer to some of the water sources and which was actually used for throwing away the bodies on 14th March and again on 16th November. But that could have also been useful for taking away the effluents from the chemical zone. But apart from that, there is no reason why that region should have been chosen.
I come from Maharashtra and in
Then, somebody mentioned that 90 per cent of the people who were dead and injured were Muslims. Why has that happened? There should be some kind of an explanation for that.
What was the great high about the word 'recapture'? Were the people driven out? Why did they go out? What about the high about recapture?
The last question is: Why is it that the ruling party in Bengal is
using the kind of brazenness that was used after
Sir, I also visited
Nandigram twice and I took the occasion to go out
and talk to the people and farmers who were there. The facts that cannot be denied very briefly
are as follows: On 14th
March, the two facts were established. The
police forces in