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kgg-sch/4b/6.00

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE (CONTD.): But, unfortunately, still, the committee which was formed to resist acquisition of land thought not only on some other political reason for resisting the land acquisition, which continued, but on other reasons also. Unfortunately, the whole process continued in this way for eleven months. So, irrespective of the political colours, so many people had to flee away from their homes and, definitely, Sir, there was a huge pressure to see to it that at least on the humanitarian ground, people should come back.

During the whole process, we thought on behalf of the party that not only the police force can solve the problem, but also there should be persistent socio-economic process going on for a settlement. As you all know, Sir, the veteran freedom fighter and our leader, Comrade Ashok Ghosh took the initiative to have an all-party meeting at Mahajyoti Sadan in Kolkata but, unfortunately, the Leader of the Opposition, suddenly, in the midst of the peace talks, left. We were taken aback because again the peace process was spoiled.

After some time, the former Chief Minister, Comrade Jyoti Basu, also took initiative and cordially invited the Leader of the Opposition to have talks but, unfortunately, even that failed. As you see, we had all these processes continuously. There was Bhumi Ucched Pratirodh Committee which continued their process of resisting all these things. So, we wanted to have an amicable settlement but we could not reach that. We have done all these things, yet we failed. Until and unless all people are allowed to come back to their homes, relief is given to them, all assistance to have their livelihood is given and all development work by Panchayat of Nandigram is started, real peace is not there.

Lastly, I must mention that it is our apprehension that what happened in Kolkata yesterday--start of violence on Tasleem Nasreen-- was not a current burning issue. But, suddenly it flared up and along with it the Nandigram issue got connected. It is our apprehension that it could have taken the colour of communal violence in a sensitive area and hence stern action was taken. Sir, I would say that it has taken a political colour and, for some, it is a one-point agenda to go on continuing with this issue so that again we fail. We feel that a persistent socio-economic process should go on and people should be taken into confidence. We appeal to all the people, particularly to the intellectuals of the State that we all should join our hands together to find a solution, at least for the large part of the suffering humanity over there.

I once again appeal to the Opposition leaders, to my friends also here. We already have tried on two occasions for peace, let us try again, and I request all to join hands together to find a lasting solution to this vexed problem. Thank you.

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SSS/4D/6.10

DR. CHANDAN MITRA (NOMINATED): Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chairman, Sir. I rise to speak not to score any political points but to express my anguish as a journalist, as a Bengali, as an Indian and above all as a human being. Sir, particularly as a journalist of 25 years' standing, I have seen a lot of terror and a lot of bloodshed, in different parts of the country starting with Punjab, the North-East, Jammu and Kashmir, Bihar and other places. But, Sir, the kind of terror -- to use the appropriate Urdu word Dehshat -- that is being experienced in one part of West Bengal at present and which I also had an opportunity to see for myself on 13th November, is amongst the worst that I have come across. Sir, I believe that the time has come to rise above political considerations there and to try and reach out and ensure safety, security and the well- being of the people of Nandigram, the people of East Midnapore and West Bengal as a whole. The idea of action and re-action, revenge and counter-revenge, Sir, is getting us nowhere, leading to more and more bloodshed and creating an atmosphere in which constitutional governance is progressively being eroded. Sir, anybody visiting Nandigram today cannot but return without a feeling of shock and shame. It is really unfortunate that 60 years after Independence and after more than five decades of democracy, we have a situation where people are completely afraid to speak out, where the rule of law has collapsed. I am not suggesting that this has happened overnight. I am not suggesting that this has happened only now. But the fact is, there is a problem that is brewing for months and instead of approaching the problem with an aim of resolving the crisis, I regret to say, the State Government, by not taking adequate action, by providing, in fact, protection to the cadre of its own party, has created a situation where people are terrorised and traumatised. Sir, we have been told that it is all the conspiracy of the Maoists, that the Maoists have run riot, and are controlling the place and it was necessary to remove them. Sir, if they are all Maoists, how come when we went to Nandigram we saw every political party's office vandalised, signboards pulled down, defaced, trampled and lying on the road? You fight the Maoists. Why fight other democratically functioning political parties? Sir, place after place we found flags piled up to be hoisted on houses that have been vacated by the supporters of Bhumi Ucchhed Pratirodh Committee or others who had resisted the cadres of the ruling party. I want to ask my friends in the CPI (M): 'Is this the way to fight Maoism?' Even if for a moment, I accept for argument's sake that it is a Maoists conspiracy, who is to fight them? Is it the Government, the Government machinery, the State, or is it a private army of a political party? (Contd. by NBR/4E)

-SSS/NBR-AKA/4E/6.15.

DR. CHANDAN MITRA (CONTD.): This fundamental question needs to be debated and this has not been brought out so far. We have heard the hon. Home Minister, sitting here right now, yesterday explaining the kind of steps the Government of India is taking to try and combat the menace of Maoist insurgency in different parts of the country. It is being done through the State machinery. This fight has to be done through the State machinery, not through a private army of a political party. Just imagine the situation that if this is allowed and territories are marked out in the name of different political parties, what will be the condition of India? Will we not go back to the post-Mughal time which was what led to the colonisation of this country? Sir, there has been a denial of high-handedness and atrocities. But, day-after-day, the TV pictures are showing us that a cadre of a particular political party, with red flags and Banda Nach and flags on their motorbikes moving, from village to village and terrorising people. Sir, are all TV channels lying? Or, are all the media people lying? I believe, today, if Nandigram has become a national issue, if Nandigarm has become a by-word for this kind of terror and trauma that has been inflicted upon, it is because of the valiant work of the media and our 24-hour TV. This kind of a thing has never happened in the past. But, this has brought the gruesome reality into the picture.

I do not want to go into the other points. Many of which have already been made. But, the fundamental question I would like to raise, first, is this. Is this the correct method to fight the Maoist insurgency even assuming that everything is a Maoist conspiracy there? Secondly, has the State Government even attempted to compile the list of people who are missing? I am not talking about the dead. Let us go by the Government figures. But, there are hundreds and, maybe, thousands of people gone missing. Wherever we went, people talked about their husbands and sons missing. Everybody said 'missing' is a synonym for 'dead' in Nandigram. So, when a person is missing for two months or three months or two weeks or three weeks, it is believed that the person is no more. Why has this figure of missing not been tabulated yet? It is because if you actually tabulate the figure of missing, you will find that the number of dead goes up very substantially from what it is today? Why is it that for over so many months disturbance is going on? The people who are supposed to be the mastermind has not been arrested, whether from that side or this side or from third side or the fourth side? Why is it that two of the main criminals -- Sukur Ali and Tapan Ghosh -- of the Chota Angaria massacre were, actually, arrested or rather apprehended by the people of that area when they were trying to flee Nandigram during the violence of last fortnight? They were produced in a court when they tried to get away with false evidence. Why is it that the people, who perpetrated the crimes, even in the past, have not been apprehended? Is this the way to bring peace, law and order and cooperation among all parties? If you have political vendetta, the counter will only be that the people, actually, become Maoists. They will become terrorists, because if they believe that there is no justice, there is no system and their grievances are not going to be redressed through the system. If you resist, you are going to be thrown out of your house, your woman will be raped and you will be driven out of the place. So, what will the people do?

Again, I say that this is no way to bring out normalcy as people have said. Many senior party functionaries there have said that Nandigarm is now terror-free and normalcy has been restored. I am very sorry. If this is the normalcy, it is the normalcy of the graveyard. With deep sadness I have to say that I speak not as anything else, but primarily as a journalist. I feel extremely upset and disturbed with what has happened and the lack of protection. This was going on all these years.

Finally, because of the efforts of the media very much has been brought out and I hope the lessons will be internalised and something will be learnt out of it so that Nandigram does not become a by-word for terror and trauma.

In conclusion, I can only recall, Mr. Ahluwalia also referred to, some of Rabindranath Tagore's poems. I will conclude with one of them, because this is very apt in this kind of a situation. With your permission I will take just half a minute. (CONTD. BY USY "4F")


-NBR-USY/4F/6.20

DR. CHANDAN MITRA (CONTD.): In the context of Jalliawala Bagh, Rabindranath Tagore wrote (the hon. Member may please fill in Bengali quotation). I would not translate it. I am sure the meaning has not been lost. Thank you, Sir, (Ends)

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (MAHARASHTRA): Thank you, Sir, for having given me this opportunity. I rise on behalf of my party, Shiv Sena, to express our deep sense of anguish over what has been happening over last eleven months at Singur and Nandigram.

Sir, you have just now appealed that every Member should adhere to his point of view. I will not go into those details that have been repeated ad nausea in this House. The facts are as clear as the Sun. This event of Nandigram is a sad chapter in the post-independent India. Therefore, it makes every proud Indian hang his head in shame. In my opinion, Nandigram is an illegitimate child born of unholy marriage between the CPM communism and the aggrandizing capitalism. Earlier, whenever communism failed in the world, the 'communism' was described as a word that failed. But, today, the communism has not only failed, but its ugly face has been exposed. And, we know it was never a God, it is a monster on the rampage. People are recalling things that have happened in the name of SEZs. The Government's policy is to have no policy on SEZs. In my State, Maharashtra, the Government has sanctioned so many SEZs, but my party has clearly told the Government that they cannot take the farmers for granted. And, come what may, whatever be the sacrifices that may be required, my party will not allow the interests of the farmers to be trampled upon. In this country, during the last seven years, a farmer is committing suicide every thirty minutes. And, a party that always masquerade itself as a party of farmers, is now killing their tillers. This is something, which history has to take notice of. It is the darkest chapter in the Communist history. The CPM is in a denial mode. It is a human history and human tragedy that people first make blunders and, then, there are vested interests in those blunders. Nandigram is an episode, which bears testimony to the blunders that Communists have committed, and how, they have, now, developed a vested interest in this blunder. My learned colleague, the veteran legal luminary, Shri Ramjeth Malani, took pains to explain the lack of truth in the literature that is circulated by the Communists. I would like to remind, though I am a small person in comparison to him, that in the Soviet Union there used to be two newspapers -- one was the Pravda and the other was the Izvestia. The writer of 'Gulag Archipelago', Alexander Solzhenitsyn, once said, "The Pravda contains no truth and the Izvestia is all falsehood".

(Contd. by 4g -- VP)

VP/6.25/4G

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (CONTD. ): And, please remember all the Communist literature. At one time, in my college days, when I read Das Capital, I was a great admirer of communism. But, I knew that there was an element of violence in it. Therefore, we, young men, departed from that ideology. And what Alexander Solzhenitsyn said, I repeat, "Pravada contains no truth and Izvestia is all falsehood." And, that is so common about Communist literature everywhere, which has been proved once again by my esteemed colleague, Shri Ram Jethmalani, by pointing out the anomalies and idiosyncrasies that have been there in the literature that has been circulated.

Sir, in this House we saw today, politics makes strange bedfellows. We saw the real face of the Congress also today. For the Congress, for the first time, Congress is for both. When I heard the speeches of the Congress Members; they are for both. They are for truth, they are for reconciliation and they are for forgiveness. I wonder from where the Congress has found this new incarnation of forgiveness when there is violence. When it is the duty of the Centre to ensure that there is law and order and the State is run according to the Constitution, the people who are in power are talking of forgiveness. Therefore, Sir, because of this, there is this alliance. Because the Communists are supporting the Congress Government, we must know, and I strongly suspect that the nuclear deal has also led to the Nandigram deal. That is why, today, the Congress people are trying to come to the support of the Communists and are talking of a way to think of compassion and forgiveness. On the one side, they want to strike, but they are willing to strike and afraid to wound. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: We are willing to strike and we are willing to wound. ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Why do you disturb?

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR: They are willing to strike, but afraid to wound because they will lose their chair. This is the real face of the Congress. You are willing to strike because you are attacking your partners on whose shoulders you stand in the Government. Then, you are afraid to wound because you lose your chair. This is your concern for the farmers of India, for the suffering people of Bengal, for the suffering people of Singur, and for the suffering people of Nandigram! So, this is also a time for the people of India to take notice of the real face of the Congress, the old Congress or the youth Congress, Congress of Mrs. Sonia Gandhi or the Congress, maybe, of Shri Rahul Gandhi because now new Gandhis are coming up. I don't know, there may be other names. Sir, it is the duty of the Centre and the State to ensure the protection of life, dignity, and property of every citizen. It is the duty of the Centre and the State to ensure that freedom of expression, freedom of movement, freedom of occasion, and freedom of association are there for everyone. But all these fundamental freedoms have been trampled upon under the very nose of the Government of India. And the Government of India is shirking its responsibility under articles 355 and 356 to a point where it is not prepared to share with us the correspondence that they had with the Government of Bengal. Sir, this is a thing on which I want to lodge my protest. Sir, I have already pointed out to you ..(Time-bell) Sir, you are always in a hurry when the Shiv Sena Members speak. As it is, we are 17 Members in the Parliament. We get a chance when everybody has spoken. I know that happens because you are in power. But I am now addressing the Chair. ..(Interruptions).. We are four Members in this House.

(Continued by PK/4H)

PK/4H/6.30

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (CONTD.): So, Sir, please allow me some more time. Sir, please understand the Communist Party, (CPM) is carrying out a unique experiment in this country by recruiting their cadres in the police services. If you see the record of the policemen of West Bengal, you will find that most of them are formerly cadres of CPM. During elections, they give police uniform to their cadres. They go to hutments in rural areas, pick up people and bring them for votes. Whatever the Communists have sowed, they are reaping now. Because the policemen are their cadres. Their cadres are also doning the mantle of policemen. They don the uniform of policemen and bring the people for voting at the time of election. It is this very cadre that control lumpen elements, goondas, the anti-social elements which have taken an upper hand in the Communist Party now. Sir, I read contents of an article now. This is not what my leader Shri Bala Saheb Thackeray says, this is what Shri Ashoka Mitra has written. What he has written is very important. What he says will open the eyes of every Indian to the real nature of the Communist Party. Ashoka Mitra says that lumpen elements have taken control of the Communist Party. I quote him, "They have come to take and not to give." One efficient way to bag privileges is to flatter their masters. The party has turned into a wild open field of flatterers and court-jesters. Shrimati Brindaji, Ashok Mitra says, your Party has turned into a wide open field for flatterers and court-jesters. "Moreover, there has been a rising dominance of anti-social elements, for different reasons. Every political party has to patronize this. But here, they remain in the background and are called to duty in urgent times."

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, please conclude.

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR: Sir, in Nandigram, it is Ashoka Mitra who is saying that the lumpen elements were called to duty in urgent times and in difficult times. That is how Nandigram has happened.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN : Now, please conclude.

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR: Maha Shveta Devi has said, "Nandigram is a killing field." Shri Gautam Ghose has said, "I am ashamed to be called a Communist." Governor Gandhi has said, "Nandigram is a war zone." Shri Priyaranjan Dasmunsi has gone on record that what has happened in Nandigram is State-sponsored terrorism. Sir, it is a danger if the CPM Government goes scot-free. Therefore, I appeal to you that let us pass a unanimous Resolution in this House condemning the collaboration and collusion between the Government, the Party and the hooligans in Nandigram. An all-Party delegation should go and try to establish peace there and all the people should be allowed to lead a decent and dignified life. (Ends)

SHRI ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE (KERALA): Sir, I thank you for having given me the opportunity to speak on the Nandigram issue. As per everybody, it is on the SEZ, Special Economic Zones. But a lot of Economic Zones are being given permission; why only Nandigram? Before Nandigram, in West Bengal, a lot of eviction occurred in and around Kolkata. (Contd. by 4J/SKC)

4j/6.35/skc-sc

SHRI ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE (CONTD.): Most of the evictees were Muslims, but when the matter was raised, everybody thought that it was being given a communal angle. But now it is evidently clear; wherever eviction took place in West Bengal, fortunately or unfortunately, the affected people turned out to be Muslims. Nobody has looked at it from that point of view but if it were told that it is about Muslims, then it would be termed communal.

Sir, I fully endorse Shri Madani's stand -- whenever we speak against the Communist Party, they resort to Islamic extremism. On the national and international arena, they always pose to be the saviours of Islam. But if even a word is spoken about Communist Party, then Islamic extremism and minority extremism come in. This is happening here also, and that is why, I wished to respond to comrade Yechury's remarks. We did not expect this from the Left parties, especially Communist Party, because whenever Indian Muslims are treated badly anywhere in India, the Communists have been the first to react, be it Gujarat or anywhere else. But when it came in West Bengal, the words Shri Yechury used were 'Islamic extremism'. When something happens in Ireland, nobody talks about 'Catholic extremism'. When something happens in Nepal, nobody talks about 'Hindu extremism'. But whenever anything happens anywhere in the world in Muslim-dominated states, the words 'Islamic extremism' come in. That is why, I would not like to explain more because when Mr. Madani expressed his views, he expressed mine too.

Coming back to Nandigram, I had a chance to go to Nandigram after the March incident. I would not repeat the things said by Sushmaji and others here; the situation there is pathetic. Whatever happens, whether it is laying of road or displacement due to anything else, 90 per cent of the affected people are Muslims. Nobody is talking about that; everybody is talking about farmers and others. Of course, Nandigram is a beautiful place. We could go there only on the scooter; the first thing we saw was a beautiful pond and fertile land. It is definitely not fit to be made a chemical hub; that is for sure. In Kerala, we adore Shri Buddhadeb Bhattacharya, the Chief Minister of West Bengal, as he is a progressive Chief Minister. He readily agreed to scrapping this deal but still this problem is going on. We, in Kerala, feel that it is not because of SEZs; it is only because of the fact that the nazist Communist Party took a decision that if somebody goes against their party, then they would take it personally. The Police is not there; their cadres are coming out. This has become a prestige issue for them. Otherwise, Nandigram is represented by the CPI; it is not a CPM hold. Still, CPM is taking their cadres, without taking Police protection; it is taking it as a personal issue. We fear that this problem is not only in Nandigram but will take place in Kerala too, in Kannur; Kannur is also a CPM belt. So, we in Kerala fear that this Nandigram issue would spill over to Kerala also, and as Indian Union Muslim League members, we condemn this sort of attitude towards people, especially the majority Muslims. Thank you, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. (Ends)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Thank you for sticking to the time. Now, Shri Abani Roy.

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Sir, we are opposing this after taking everything there into consideration -- the problem of farmers, the problem of the agricultural land, problem of food scarcity that would occur in the long run, which the Prime Minister had also said, and so on. Considering all this, we are against these SEZs in toto. That is one point.

Secondly, we have discussed the question of violence in this House several times, whether it were Gujarat, whether it were Delhi of 1984, or in some other parts of India, even in the North-East...

(Contd. by 4k/ksk)

KSK/6.40/4K

SHRI ABANI ROY (CONTD): .....attack on the Biharis, or the ULFAs creating problems everyday, or some problems in Tripura also, ethnic disturbances and others. We have discussed all these things here. Similarly, if violence had happened in Nandigram, it is correct that we are discussing whether violence will be there or not, or whether violence will be stopped or not, or who has done it, how he has done it, is a separate question. But, here, the question is of violence. No doubt, as a Member of this House from West Bengal, I feel deeply sorry for this incident that has happened in Nandigram.


(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair)

As a member of the Left Front also, I am feeling very much depressed as to how these things happened there. The Chief Minister, after uttering a yes, withdrew it. But, to add to it, the Haldia Development Authority gave the notice saying that acquisition of land would be there. Bhumi Ucched Pratirodh Committee was formed only for this reason that they won't allow their land to be acquired by HDA or whatever it was. They were not ready to give the land. In that particular group, whether you admit or not, not only the people of BJP, which is not there at all; some Trinamool people are there; some Congress people are there; CPI is there; and, CPI(M) is also there. If we go through the media reports and other things, then in media also, it has been uttered by a particular old man that he was with CPI, and now, he is with CPI(M) and if they want to take the land, he will not give his land even if he has to leave CPI(M). Whatever it may be, the largest party in the Left front is CPI(M), and the Chief Minister, the Home Minister, and the Information and Broadcasting Minister is the same person. So, duty is there to stop this type of violence and being the Home Minister, he should collect information on what is going on there. So, in the month of January, 2007, when the situation was like that, at that time, he should have taken the charge and got the information from the Police Department in this regard. It is the duty of the Chief Minister and the Government itself to go there and stop all these types of incidents, but they did not want to do it. He said, "Scrap the notice." He said that there would be no chemical hub. So, if, as the Chief Minister, he would have gone there to convince the people, I think, this sort of incident would not have taken place. Anyway, after all these incidents happened, and in what manner they happened, whether we agree or not, we are taking some sections of the media which are helping us, and we are not taking the sections of the media which are not helping us. So, we have to believe the media that whatever they are showing or writing, something is correct, if not fully correct. Whatever photographs have appeared in the electronic media or print media, we have to see that something is there. So, looking at all these things, I think, it is sheer failure of the West Bengal Government to protect the people of Nandigram; to go the people and convince them that nothing is going to happen there, and they should maintain peace.

(continued by 4l - gsp)

GSP-GS/4L/6.45

SHRI ABANI ROY (CONTD.): I think that was the best method to stop all these things. It happened in Singur also. I am not referring that one. Till now, the police forces are protecting the Tata's industry. But, here, I think, police forces have not taken an action similar to what they took in Singur.

So, as far as the question of Maoists or the outsiders is concerned, the Government should not say that for eleven months, a District or a small block is unable to be controlled. I think, these are not the good words used by the Government or the Chief Minister. (Interruptions) Yes, I am a part of the Government. Till now, I say this thing. (Interruptions) Why I am saying this thing, I will tell you. We are part of this Government also. We will ask this Government also. Don't think that I will leave you. If we are conscious enough, and, we go deep into it, then, this thing would not happen. The Haldia Development Authority is also controlled by the CPI(M). Notice has been served by the CPI(M) in that way, which is not known to us. We have raised the issue inside the Left Front also. Apart from that, as far as the question of Naxalites and Maoists is concerned, I would request the Home Minister to investigate into the matter. If there is any naxalite or Maoist, take whatever action should be taken by the Central Government or the State Government. I want to know if the State Government has written to you that there are Maoists and for that send the police forces. I do not know. But if it is there, in any part of the West Bengal, then, the State Government and the Central Government jointly have to stop them. Though it is a reality that from CPI, CPI(M) was formed; from CPI(M), CPI(ML) was formed, and, from CPI(ML), Maoists have been formed. On one side, they are Marxists, Leninists or Maoists, but they are also Leftist. The problem is everywhere. But, if we think that they are dangerous to the society, then it is the duty of the State Home Minister and the Central Home Minister to look into the matter, and, if they are doing any mischief or misdeed in any State, in any form, then, they have to be punished. For that, strong action is required and I request the Home Minister to take action in this regard. Time-bell.

One minute, Sir. Sir, other things have been mentioned by many hon. Members. I am not going to repeat them. But, by any means, restoration of peace and harmony is required there. For that you have to win the confidence of the people and the confidence of other political parties. And, if they do not want to kill any citizen of India, any citizen of West Bengal, it is not that we are counting like this.

I am sorry to say what Shri Sitaram Yechury has said. I think, a responsible leader of the CPI (M), a Member of the Politburo, should have said that they would take into consideration those who were killed, died or injured there. ֛ ֟ ֮ օ ָ ֣ ו ߱ ״׮Ù ֟ , ִ ָ֕ , ߱ ״׮Ù ֮ օ ֮ ־ֲ פ, ־ֲ օ I mean to say 'paid in the same coin'. (Contd. by sk-4m)

SK-ASC/4M/6.50

SHRI ABANI ROY (CONTD.): Similarly, he also said, ' '. The Chief Minister from the Writers' Building, the main office of the Chief Minister, from that place, should not distinguish the citizens of his State in this way and say 'we and they'. All these things create problems. I request everybody to join hands whole-heartedly so that we can restore peace there as soon as possible. I appeal to everyone not to politicise this issue. Enough is enough. Many people have died there. Let us restore peace there. People should be given compensation to build the gutted houses. ...(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Your Government had ...(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy, let this debate get completed ...(Interruptions).. ׮ ֵ , ֯ ׻֋, ֯ ׻֋ ..(־֮֬)...

׮ ֵ : ״֮֙ ֮ ו ...(־֮֬)..

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SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Your Government ...(Interruptions).. taken into confidence. ...(Interruptions)..

SHRI ABANI ROY: Yes, definitely, I will do that. ...(Interruptions).. But, let me tell you Mr. Narayanasamy, it is the duty of the UPA and the duty of the Congress Party also. What you are doing there that is also known to us. So, don't say in this way. Being in the Left Front, I am saying this thing. I have got the guts to say like that. You do not have guts to condemn it. You should have come forward.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Abani Roy, you please address me.

SHRI ABANI ROY: So, one again, I feel that ן ֮֋ ֮ ׻֋, ׻֋ ֮ , ֋Ӆ ֛ , ֤ ֙ Anyway, the Government has taken immediate steps and stop all this. That is a good thing that the Government went there and controlled it. So, similarly, they should control this one also, taking the help of all the political parties and others also because we have to convince the people and ֮ ׾ ֛ ֣ ָ ָ ׾ ֙ , ֮֋ ׿ִ ֻ ֣ ָ ָ ֻ, ֻ ׻֋ ֕ ֛ ֙ ָ ֣ ָ ֙ ֻ , ׻ ֵ֟ ֮ ָ֟ ֟ , פ ֟ , ֣-Ù ֟ ָ ֻ , ׻֋ ֮ ӡֵֻ, Ù ӡ ׻ ֣ ֮ Ƌ

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SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (MAHARASHTRA): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, of the little time that is given to me, I want to use half-a-minute for the guillotine that has been applied to 'Others' speakers in this House. According to my information, there were 47 Members in this House who fall in the category of 'Others'. The B.J.P. has 48 Members and I found the B.J. P. using, at least, one-and-a-half hour and to allot 28 minutes only to the 'Others' speakers, I think, is patently unfair. The Others get time to make sher-o-shayari ...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Joshi, just to tell you, the time taken by the speakers from 'Others' category so far has far exceeded than the time taken by the speakers from all the parties on this debate. The allocated time is 28 minutes, but the time taken has exceeded all other parties. That is for your information.

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: That is your generosity. We should get that as a matter of right.

Sir, I have the largest possible experience in this House of farmers' movements. I have been active in the anti-SEZ moments not only in Maharashtra but also in Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat and Haryana also. I have seen so many farmers being killed, so much blood flowing that I have no tears left for shedding them and I can't get into anything like poetry or shayari or speaking about the farmers' agitation.

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-SK/YSR/6.55/4N

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): I look at it in a very prosaic and logical way. I was hoping to find some solutions to some of the problems that I was facing in the debate that has now lasted for six hours. There were accusations, there were counter-accusations, and there was even a hilarious claim that the NGOs, the RSS and the Muslim fundamentalists had come under the banner of Maoists and attacking the CPI(M) Government, and then there was also a defence from the Treasury Benches of the Maoists and how great Mao was. I think the Congress Party will accept that. But I did not get any reply to the questions that I was facing.

Sir, the questions are very briefly as follows:

One, why was the Nandigram area of Midnapore District of all the places chosen for this particular SEZ? Because it is a lush green area, a very fertile agriculture area and the only advantage that it has is that it is closer to some of the water sources and which was actually used for throwing away the bodies on 14th March and again on 16th November. But that could have also been useful for taking away the effluents from the chemical zone. But apart from that, there is no reason why that region should have been chosen.

I come from Maharashtra and in Maharashtra we have found out a way. The principle that we accepted is that those farmers who want to continue doing agriculture, their land can't be taken away by anybody, and those farmers who do not want to continue with agriculture, they have the full right to dispose of their land to anybody they like, at whatever price they like and whenever they like. Once this principle is accepted, we were able to formulate bodies where the farmers themselves undertook the development of the Special Economic Zones and therefore there has not been any kind of conflagration that we are seeing in Nandigram.

Then, somebody mentioned that 90 per cent of the people who were dead and injured were Muslims. Why has that happened? There should be some kind of an explanation for that.

What was the great high about the word 'recapture'? Were the people driven out? Why did they go out? What about the high about recapture?

The last question is: Why is it that the ruling party in Bengal is using the kind of brazenness that was used after Tiananmen Square operation by the Chinese rulers? Normally, the Communists do not do that. They very politely try to understand the point of view of the other people and try to find a solution. Why is it that they are doing it? Mr. A. B. Bardhan, with whom I had a talk --he is the General Secretary of the CPI-- said that this was the arrogance of power. I don't know if this is the arrogance of power or they are in the flush of the recent victory in Bengal. But this is something that I did not expect from them.

Sir, I also visited Nandigram twice and I took the occasion to go out and talk to the people and farmers who were there. The facts that cannot be denied very briefly are as follows: On 14th March, the two facts were established. The police forces in West Bengal have been largely infiltrated and that there has been a deliberate effort to push the party cadres into the police force officially. Secondly, there has been a large degree of indoctrination of the police forces which is also of course understandable as this has happened in every communist country. Then on 14th March again, it was said that eight people were killed in the police firing because the bullets were known to be the police bullets and six people were killed by the bullets that did not belong to the police. Everybody admitted that many people who were using even private firearms and wearing uniforms were actually CPI (M) cadre people. It was established later on in the CBI inquiry that they were CPI(M) fellows who carried on as police people. On 16th November, a different thing had happened. Now, they were not the private CPI(M) people masquerading as police forces. They were ordinary people who were looking like farmers. They called themselves 'red army' and in a very military-like operation marched over to Nandigram. They put the hostages of the anti-acquisition people in the front, in between, there were the people, CPI(M) cadres, who were refugees, who were supposed to take over and resettle in the villages and the 'red army' was firing from behind both of them. (Contd. By VKK/4O

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