PREVIOUS HOUR

Kgg-nb/2.00/1d

The House re-assembled at two of the clock,

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN, PROF. P.J. KURIEN, in the Chair.

 

ATTACK ON SHRI SHAHID SIDDIQUI AND SHRI ABU ASIM AZMI, HON'BLE MEMBERS OF RAJYA SABHA

 

ָ (ָ Ϥ) : ֳ֬ , ָ ֕ ֳ ֤õ ִ ̴֕ ק, ֲ ֛ ׻ Ù֮ ָ ׿־ ׮ ָ ϟכ , ָ ӟָ-ӟָ ָ ӳ߸ ֻ ֵ ִ ̴֕ ק, ֤ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ִֵ ֤ ֻ ֲ ֲָ Õ֤ ֤ ָ ϤԮ , ׿־ ׮ ָ ָ ןֻ֮ ֻ ֟ ã

(ִ֯)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN : I hope, the Government will take note of this.

.. ׻ֵ (ָӛ) : ָ ֟ , ִֻ ֵ , ӳ߸ ֙ ָ ٻִֵ ָ ָ ֻ , ֤ߵ ֵ ӡ ֟ ֤ ֮֟ ־ã (ִ֯)

THE MAINTENANCE AND WELFARE OF PARENTS AND SENIOR CITIZENS BILL, 2007 (contd.)

ִו ֵ ׬׸ ӡ (ߴ֟ ߸ ָ) : ֳ֬ , ֕ ֤ ִ֮ ׾֬ ׾ָ֓ ׻֋ , ָ ֬׮ ִ֕ ָ և ֵ ß׾ , Ӳ׬֟ ֵ ß׾ , - Żפ , ӟ ָ ׻֟ , ׫ݮ , ؓן֟ ָ , ָ ן ߑ ֵ ֯ , ֨ ־ ֟ ֛ , ֮ , ֮ ֤ ֟ ָ ָָ ׸š ׸ , ִ֟ß ִ , ָ-ïֿ , ֿ߾Ԥ ׾ֿ ָ ָ , , ׮֟֯ן ָ ֮ ݵ ֮ ֟ ֮ ֛ ָ ״ֻ ָ ֛ ֮֮ , ָ ֮ ׯֵֻ ֟ ן ָָ ָ ִ֕ פ ֕ ãן ֤ և ָ , ׾ ֮ ׯ֔ - ֮ ܵ ֜ , ׸š ׸ ܵ ϟ׿֟ ֜ ָ 2001 ֮֮ ָ, 60 ׬ ֵ ܵ 7.6 , ָ ֮ܵ 6.9 ןֿ֟ 1E/VNK ָ ֿ:

-NB/VNK-KLS/1e/2.05

ߴ֟ ߸ ָ (֟) : ֮ ֵ ֟ 2026 ܵ ֜ 17.3 ֋, ִֵ ֮ܵ 12.4 ןֿ֟ ߅ ָ ֮ , ִ ׬ӿ֟: ִ ӓֻ , ֟ ןֿ֟ ׬ ָ߲ ߓ , ִ ׬ӿ - ԟ 80 ׬ ֵ ׾ד֡ ֟ ֮ և ß֮ , ׮ֵ ֆ ܵ ֜ ָ 2016 ܵ 51 ןֿ֟ ֋߅ ו ָ ֵپ֮ ד á ן , ָ ߾֮ ßָ ו ָ ָ , ָ ָ ֵ Ӳ , ߾֮ ϟֿ ֜ , ֤ ׾ֵ , ֤ ֤ ָ ־ֿ ֛ ׾֬ ֵ ֋ ָ ֮ , ׸š ׸ , ֤, ִ֮ ֣, ׸ָ Ӥ , ֕ ֳֻ ֳ֬ , ָ ӵ㌟ ׸ָ ִ ϴ ã֮ , ׸ָ ֮ , ֋ ָ ӵ㌟ ׸ָ ߔ ֋ , ֋ , ײָ ֋ , ò Ӿ ֲ ׾ֻ㯟 , ן ֮֟ ֲ ӵ㌟ ׸ָ ָ ֟-ׯ֟ ֮ , þֳ׾ ׿֋ ָ ֋ , ֟ ֋ , ןָ ֋ , ָ ׮ֻ פ ֟ , ָ ֟ ׻֋ ִֵ , ֮ ָ ֵ þã ָ ֟ , ٣ ָ ָ ׮ֳԸ ־ֿ ֛ ֟ , ִו , ִ֕ ״ ֣ ֮֟ ֻ ִֵ ֮֟ ֵ ָ ֵ ֋, ָ ߸-߸ ֮ ֮ ֟ , ֕ ֬׮ ִ֕ ָ ָ , ִֵ-ִֵ ָ ֤ ֮֮ߵ ֤ ؓ֟ ֌ ߅ ('1f/mp' ָ ָ)

SSS-MP/1F/2.10

ߴ֟ ߸ ָ (֟) : ؓ֟ , ֮ ן ־ָ , ָ ִ֮֬ ֋, ׻֋ ֮ ׾֬ ֮ ׮Ե օ ׾֬ ָ ֯ ׾ָ֓-׾ִֿ ֵօ ו֮֟ ֕ ָָ , ׾ָ֓-׾ִֿ ֵօ ו֮֟ þֵ ֚ , ׾ָ֓-׾ִֿ ֵօ ׾ֿ ו֮֟ ã֋ , וִ֮ þֵ ׸š ׸ ֤׬ָ ֤õ , ׾ָ֓-׾ִֿ ֵօ ׾׳֮ , ֳ , ֮-ָ֬ ֵ և ֲ ״׻֟ ׾֬ ָ ֵօ 20 ֓ ֳ օ ֳ ֮֮ߵ ױ ãֵ ״ן פօ ãֵ ״ן 7 ִָ֟ ֮ ׸, ֮ ߅ , וִ ׬ӿ 滵 ־ , ֮ : ִ ӿ֮ ״׻֟ օ ֳ ׾֬ ׸ , ֕ ָ ׾ִ֮ ׮־ ֳ ִ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֵ ָ ֮ 滵 ־ , ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

The question was proposed.

. ֮ ֿ ׯֻ׮ֵ (֕ã֮) : ֮־ָ, ֯ ׻֋ ߟ ֟-ׯ֟ ׸š ׸ ָ- ֣ ׾֬, 2007 ß־֮ ֮֮ߵ ӡ 㮤 ֮־ָ, ֵֿ ו -״ ָ ֟ ׯ֟ ֟㻵 ֮ ֟ , ִ ׾֬ ֮ ־ֿ ֛, וִ ֻ֮֟ ֺ ֓ ֮ ֳֻ ָߵ ן , ָָ - "ִ ֟ ׯ֟ ִ" ָ ֲ Ӳ׬֟ , ׮֟ ׻֋ ޵ ״ ֟ - " ֟ ׯ֟ " ָ ֲ ״ֻ֟ , ֲ ֟ ׯ֟ ָ ׻֋ ִ֮, ׻֋ ֤, ֟-ׯ֟ ׻֋ ֨, ׾ ™ ״ֻ ߅ (1G/SC ָ ֿ:)

SC/2.15/1G

0 ֮ ֿ ׯֻ׮ֵ (֟) : ׾֬ ֮ ־ֿ ֛, ׾֛֮ ֮֟ ָ ן - ֟ ־:, ׯ֟ ־:, ֵ֓ ־: ָ , ã , ֟ ֌ - ֟ ָ ׯ֟օ פ ֮ ֺ , Õ֤ ֮ ֺ , ָ ֮ ֺ ֓ ֮ ֺ - ָ ָ ׮־ ֟ ׯ֟ օ ִٟ֮ ִ ׾ - ־֮ ִ - ָ ִֵ ׻ "֟:ֻ ֣, ֟-ׯ֟ ־ ֣օ" ׮֟ օ ׸ㆻ , ϣ - þ֣ ׻֋ , ֟ ֣ ׻֋ ֲ ֟-ׯ֟ ָ Ӥ ֋ ׻֋ ֵ , ֮֮ ֳ֮״ֿ þԤׯ ָߵօ ֮֮ ֳ֮״ þ ָߵ , þ ָ֟ , þ šָ , þ ָ - ֮֮ օ ׻֋ ָ ֤ , ֮֮ ִ ֮ ָ ָ, ֮֯־ ׾֟ ׾ ָ߅ ָ ן ׿ָ ׻֋ , "֟֟ ָָ, ָ š֟" , ִ ֟ þֺ ֟ ֲ ִ ָ ֯ ™ ן ֕ օ ™ ָ ָ þֺ ־ ָ þֺ օ דָ֮ á ן ָ ֻ ֵ ֛ ֮ ֵ, ֮ ֵ - ׻֋ ׾֬ ֋, ֮ ֋ ֓ ֮ ֟-ׯ֟ ֮ ֮ ֟ ,

--Ӥ ֻ ,

ו ֵָ ֮ ߅

ִ ׻ , "ו ֵָ ֮ ߅" ֻ ֵ֤ ? ֻ ו ߲ ֮־ָ, ָ ´ ϟ -ׯ֟ ׌ ֮ ן ֤ օ ´ ׸ ֲ ֮ ו֮ ӟ֮ ׮֤ ֟־֟ ׾־ ׻֋ ־Ο ´ ϟ ׾־ ֟ ֕ օ ִ օ ־֮ ִ ֟ ָ ֕֯֙ פօ ו ֕ ֻ ֙ ևՅ ֮ ָ ֻ ֟ , ָ ־֮ ִ ֟ ֻ֮ ׻֋ ֟ ֕ פօ ִָ ׯ֟ ׌ ֤ ֮ ֟ ֻ ֙ ױ ֣Ԯ ֕׾֟ օ ָ ־ ָ ֟-ׯ֟ ׌ ׾׾ܵ֟ , ׾ , ן , ֮ܵ ״ֻ֟օ (1 ָ ֟)

MCM-USY/1H/2-20

0 ֮ ֿ ׯֻ׮ֵ (֟) : ־ ָ ֟-ׯ֟ ߣ ֡ ֻ ß ־ ָ ô֟ ӵ ӟ ֵօ ֲ ־ ָ ß ֤ ֻ ָ ֕ ָ ֻ֟ ָ, ϴ ִ ֣ ֻ , ֮ ߸ ֻ פ, ו ־ ָ 韵 ևԅ ־ ָ ָ ָ ֟-ׯ֟ ֮ ߾֮ פօ , ׻֋ ֟֕ ֟֕ , ֟ þֺ ֟ þֺ ֕ ֳ ָ ֳ ָ ֛ ֮ , ß־ ֮֟ ָš ևԅ ָ ֤ ֟-ׯ֟ ־ ֤ ֮ þ֟ ݵ , ֤ ݵ , ָ֟ ݵ , ֕ ןָָ ݵ ֵ ֮ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ׿ ״ֻ֟ , ֕ ׿ ײֻ ևԅ ֛ ֵֿ ӵ㌟ ׸ָ ֵ, ӛ-ӛ ֵ, ӵ㌟ ׸ָ ׸ָ ׾ֳ֌ ׸ָ ֵ ׾ֳ֌ ׸ָ ֻ օ ֳ , ֕ ־֮ , ִ ֯ ֲ ֋ ֯ , ֮ ֤ ֋ ™ ֮ ֳֻ ֛ ֵ־ , ֻ֟֋ ֋ : ׻֋ ֮ ׸ãן , ֟־ָ 2001 6 ֮ 6.9 percent of the total population ֮ 2026 6 17 ֋, 12.4 percent of the population. ֳֻ ָָ ӟִ֕ ӕꌿ֮ օ ױ ֤ؕ ֤ؕ ָ ָָ פ־֋, ֤ؕ , ֮ ֟ , ָ ãן ֋ ֮ ֲ ֻ֟ ֆ ֆ ֲ ֻ֟ ־ ֟ ֆ ִ Ӿ Ӿ Great divide between 'India' and 'Bharat'. Ӿ ֛ כև כև ֮ ָ ߱ ֳֻ ӟִ֕ , כ ָ ӟִ֕ ָ ֤ ֵ, ָ ֯ ֕֟ ״׻֟ ׸ָ ֮ ֻ֮ ֛ ִ ܟ , ו֮ ֵ ֻ ֛ ߚ ִ פ ֲ ֤ ֵ ו ָ ֟ ִ ӕ׸ ֟ ߅ , ׾ָ֓ ִ ֵ֤ ֤ օ ֤ ֵ ִ ֻ ֻ ܟ ֙ ֮ ֟-֟ ֮ ֵ ִ֟ ִ ֟ , ֮ ׻֋ ߚ ִ , ֵ , ָ ܟ ֮ ֵ (1J ָ ֿ:)

ASC-VP/2.25/1J

. ֮ ֿ ׯֻ׮ֵ (֟) : ִ֮, ןָָ ָ , ֛ ֮ߵ ֟ ֵ֤ ß ֵ֤, օ ׻֋ , ֛ , ָ ׻֋ ֛ ӟִ֕ ׻֋ ֣Ԯ , ׻֋ ־ , ׻֋ י֮ , ֲ ־և ߅ ߾֮ , ָ , ָ ׾־֮ , ׾ָ֓ , ֮ ־ֿ ֮ ֕ ֳ ָ, ֕ ֳ וִ ׾֫ ֳ , וִ ׾֮֫֕ ־֮ , ֟ ֿ ָ ׾֬ , ֤ ֵ ֮֋ ׾֬ ָ ãև ״ן , ִ ֟ և , ִ և , ִֵ ־ օ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ָ ֮ , ִ ߕ և ֮ ָ ֟ ׾־֮ ֵ ֮ ֮ ָָ ָ ׮׿֟ ֮ ִ ׾ֺֿ ׮֤ פ ֵ ֮ ׻֋ ֲ ֤ ֺ כ ָ - ֟ , - ָ߸ ֟ , - ָ߸ ָ - ߴ׸ ֻ ֣-֣ כ -ֻ ֤ ־ֿ , ו ִ ܟ ֮־ָ, ֤ ׾֮֮֫֕ ָ ֱ ֿ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ , ֮ ׾ָ֓ ֮־ָ, ׌ , כ ׌ ֮-߮ ָ ָ ָ , ן ׾֑֙ ָ ֵ Ͼן ֻ ָָ ֻ ׾֔ , ߛ ֮֯ ֮ ֮ ִֵ פ, ֮ ߛ ֌ ׻֋, ֮ ֮ ֕ ֳ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ פ֮ ׻֋, ׻֋

(ִ֯)

(1k/pk ָ ָ)

PK/1K/2.30

SHRI B.S. GNANADESIKAN (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I thank you for having given me this opportunity. Like many other welfare schemes introduced by the UPA Government to protect the assaults on women and children, this is one more feather in the cap of the UPA, and, I welcome this step. If our parents and senior citizens are not taken care of by their children, then, who will take care of them? The children cannot have a place on this earth because it is a sin. Normally, it is the duty and obligation of the children to take care of their parents. It is really unfortunate that this country has to enact a law to put a statutory duty on the sons to protect their parents and also the senior citizens. It is an irony. Sir, as the Minister in her introductory remarks said, the joint family system is collapsing in this country. In the advancement of educational pursuit, many children after college studies are going to foreign countries and many a time they settle down there. The parents and the senior citizens, whom should be protected, are uncared and unattended. Therefore, whether in India, or, in foreign country, the obligation to protect and safeguard the elders is now statutorily protected. In Tamil Nadu, there is a say. When a son went to a rishi and said that he wants this power and other things, then, rishi said, "Go and behead your mother's head and bring it; I will give you." The son went and cut mother's head. He was rushing back to the rishi with the head in his hands. On the way, he slipped. Only head was there; the mother asked: "My dear son, are you injured?" So, that is the sentiment of the mother; that is the sentiment of the father; that is the sentiment of the elders, and that is the sentiment of the parents. Therefore, when that attitude is there, in the changing scenario in India, due to economic conditions and other factors, most of the time, elders are languishing in the old-age homes. They do not have money to purchase medicines. If they go to hospitals, they have to stand in the long queue. If they go to railway station, there is no provision for them. They have to stand in the queue. They can't match the physical strength of the youth to get into the compartment, and all these things are there.

Sir, without going into the general aspects, I would like to say that this Bill is to provide for more effective provisions for the maintenance and welfare of parents, and senior citizens, guaranteed and recognised in the Constitution. Article 39 (1) and article 47 of the Directive Principles of State Policy mandate the Government to see that adequate means of livelihood are provided to the citizens and 'the citizens' includes the old parents. In order to enforce the Directive Principles of State Policy, this Bill has been brought forward. I congratulate the hon. Minister for the same.

Sir, when I went through certain provisions and clauses of the Bill, one thing for which I wish to congratulate the drafters of the Bill is that the earning capacity has been made a criterion. Because, a person may have a property but he, or, she may not have an income from that property. This provision is there in the Insolvency Act also. An insolvent is considered to be a person depending on how much acre he possesses, and what is the income he derives from the property. That is the reason why in clause 4 (1) they say, "...maintain himself from his own earning, or, out of the property owned by him...". Therefore, the Bill recognises, even if the property is there, but there is no income, then, he is bound to be maintained. So, that is one of the best draftings of the clauses; I congratulate the hon. Minister for the same. The relative of a senior citizen is also bound to maintain. While a senior citizen is defined as a person above 60 years of age, it is good that in the definition clause parents, father, or, mother are defined irrespective of the age. That is one of the welcome steps which the Bill provides. Sir, normally, either in the disposal of cases in the courts, or in passing orders even by the Supreme Court and the High Court, it takes months together. I, really, congratulate the drafters again because the case has to be disposed of within 90 days from the date of service of notice; that is a welcome step. Not only that, with the maintenance orders, within 30 days, amount has to be deposited. Drafters are conscious of the fact that it should not take more time and, therefore, the outer limit has been prescribed -- in the case of disposal of a case, it is 90 days, in the case of deposit of money, it is 30 days. Sir, earlier, it was discretionary, but now it has been a mandate for every State Government to make Tribunals within a period of six months from the date of commencement of this Act. (Contd. by 1L/PB)

PB/1L/2.35

SHRI B.S. GNANADESIKAN (CONTD.): That is another welcome step. Sir, with regard to the Appellate Tribunal and also the Tribunal, there are two apprehensions that I have. One is, with regard to the powers conferred on the Sub-Divisional Magistrate at the lower level and the other is with regard to the power of appeal conferred on the Officer, not less than the rank of a District Magistrate, namely, Collector. Sir, the Revenue officials already have several other duties to perform. They not only have a lot of revenue works, but also if the Minister visits or some Government functionary visits or there are some Government functions, they cannot be seen at the office at all. If such is the condition, I put some questions to myself. If a senior citizen goes to the Collector's office, the Collector won't be there because he will be busy on other duty. I want to know whether the senior citizen who goes for an enquiry again must come there, wait and then attend the hearing. This problem may arise if the powers are conferred on the revenue authorities. I request the Minister to kindly consider whether this power can be conferred on any other authority, not necessarily courts, because courts also take their time; however, in courts there is a fixed time. The courts sit at 10.30, and if the hearing is fixed with an outer limit, definitely a person can go to the court at a particular time. They can notify somebody. They can wait and then this case can be disposed of, provided an outer limit is prescribed. But if it is a revenue official, as I said, with all administrative powers, then there will be a problem. Why I am saying this is because we have seen so many Acts conferring power on them. The Board of Revenue has been abolished. This power has been conferred on the Commissioners in Tamil Nadu and there are corresponding provisions in other States. These officials -- we can't blame them -- have several duties to perform. Sir, particularly, when we say that a senior citizen should be taken care of and protected -- and there is a provision in this Bill that they should be given a special attention in queues, hospital facilities, beds, etc., -- is it fair on our part to ask the senior citizens to wait in the Collectorate or the SDO Office for months together or weeks together? Definitely, they cannot pass the order within a particular period. So, Sir, through you, I want to bring this problem to the notice of the hon. Minister.

Similarly, while disposing of the application within ninety days and depositing the maintenance within thirty days, in Clause 16 for filing an appeal, they have prescribed sixty days and in the proviso, it is said, 'conferring power on the appellate authority, if there is a sufficient cause shown, the appeal can be entertained.' Here comes the problem. Once you allow this, there will be a problem of filing an appeal after one year, of course, with a petition to condone the delay, unlike the Rent Control Act, because Section 5 of the Limitation Act will apply if you fail to restrict the period of appeal. You say, sixty days, and condonation of the appeal can be made, provided for another thirty days. Sir, there are judgements which say that the Act itself prescribes the condonation period -- appeal time is sixty days, condonation period thirty days, outer limit ninety days -- then more than thirty days, no authority can have power to condone. Therefore, if that is suitably modified, if the proviso of Clause 16 is suitably modified to say that 'provided the appellate authority can condone the delay in filing the appeal within thirty days', then that is sufficient. I think, that suggestion can also be taken into consideration, leaving the discretion to the appellate authority, to take the appeal on file, and giving him power to condone may lead to further delay. Sir, this is my suggestion.

Sir, providing these old-age homes is one of the welcome steps. I congratulate the Minister for that. The State Governments must be asked to immediately start these old-age homes in the districts immediately. (Contd. by 1m/SKC)

1m/2.40/skc

SHRI B. S. GNANADESIKAN (CONTD.): That monitoring committee should be formed with elected representatives and other functionaries, just as we have vigilance committees at the district level with MPs as Chairmen. I am not blaming the NGOs; they are doing a wonderful job at many places and in many areas. But, at times, this fund could also be misused. Therefore, it would be better if there is a monitoring committee and some kind of a vigilance committee so that the money intended for the old and the parents reaches them.

Sir, one of the salient features of this Bill is Clause 23. Normally, a dispute arises in a family over property. The sons try to impress upon, or coerce, or even threaten, parents to give away the property which they possess and then he gets a settlement. Clause 23(1) is a very novel step where the obligation to provide maintenance to parents is attached with the property. Even if the parents gift the property in favour of the son or anybody else, the obligation shall run along with the property. That is a wonderful idea. The obligation is there if a person receives property by way of gift or settlement. If he fails to honour that commitment, fails to honour the obligation, fails to maintain the parents or senior citizens, then the gift will become null and void because it will really amount to fraud for getting that property. This is a very novel section and I really appreciate it.

Then, there is Clause 22(2) which provides that the State Government shall prescribe a comprehensive action plan for providing protection of life and property of senior citizens. Through Standing Committees and other such bodies, even though many letters are written to the State Governments, most of them do not reply. Therefore, it would be better if the Minister calls for a meeting of all the concerned Ministers of the States and have a time-bound programme because caring for and attending to the senior citizens of the country is the foremost duty of the State Governments and the Central Government. Therefore, unless we take the initiative, it would just be another law in the Statute Book, and without proper enforcement, it won't help the beneficiaries. Some push and involvement is required here. We have to associate and involve ourselves for the successful implementation of all the legislations passed in this august House. We bring in many laws and we try to protect every section of the society. We try to bring in many statutes to see to it that the beneficiaries are really benefited. But, unfortunately, because of various factors in this country, because of various impediments, court cases and several other things, the intended beneficiaries are not able to get the benefits and the law remains only on the Statute Book. This Act should also not meet the same fate. Therefore, I would humbly request the hon. Minister, through you, Sir, to see to it that it is implemented in letter and spirit so that these beneficiaries get the real benefits.

Sir, my friend, Shri Natchiappan, made a suggestion regarding administrative expenses. That also needs to be worked out. I am sorry to say that many State Governments receive various funds from the Centre but when it comes to spending them, they say they have no money. That should not be the case. They say that the Parliament makes a law, the Parliament asks them to create tribunals, the Parliament asks them to pay money but, ultimately, when the question of spending comes, they say they have no money. Therefore, the administrative expenses must also be taken care of in this scheme of things.

Finally, this Government, under the leadership of Dr. Manmohan Singh and guided by our leader Soniaji, has brought various measures in the last three-and-a-half years. They always think about weaker sections, women and, now, the old people. Sir, this Government must also see to it that the efforts of Government make a difference in every nook and corner in this country. If that has to happen, not only the Ministers concerned but also all the Members of Parliament and State Legislatures, Chairmen of local bodies including Panchayats, must put their heads together to see to it that the benefits provided in these laws reach the people. Sir, there is a proverb which I learnt when I was in college which is 'Respect grey hair, especially yours'. Sir, this Bill is for respecting old, aged, parents and senior citizens, particularly 'yours'.

(Ends)

(Followed by 1n/hk)

PSV-HK/1N/2.45

֮ ֤ (ָ Ϥ): ֳ֬ , ֮֮ߵ ӡ ָ ֟-ׯ֟ ׸š ׸ ָ- ֣ ׾֬, 2007 ß , ן ִ֮ ײֻ ִ֣Ԯ ֛

ֳ֬ , ײֻ ֳ ׸ ֵ ֕ ֕ ֳ ß ֵ ו ָ ־֮ ֤ , ֟ ײֻ ׸ ֋օ , ָ, ֕ פ ݵֻֿ ֮֟ , ו ן ֳ֟ ׮ֵ ֮ , ֕ ֮ ֟-ׯ֟ ׻֋ ֮ ֮֮ ֮ ׻֋ ֮֮ ָ ֟-ׯ֟ ׮ֵָ י , ׻֋ ־ ״ֻ , ֮ ׻֋ ֛ ״ֻ ֣ ׻֋ ד ־ã ֟Դ֮ ִו , ֟־ָ , ִ ָ ֮ ֮֮ ׻֋ ֕ ֤ ֲ֕ ָ ׻֋ ֣ ָߵ ן ֳ֟ ׻֋ ֕ פ ֲ ֱ ֤

ֳ֬ , ӵ㌟ ׸ָ ֲ ײֻ ָ ֓ , ֲ ָ ֤ߵ ֌ ָ , ֤ פ֮ ִ ָ ӵ㌟ ׸ָ ִ ָ ֟-ׯ֟ , ָ ָ ׸׸ ִו ָ ן ִ֮ ֌ ָ ָ ִ ֲ , ֲ ֤ ֮ ֟-ׯ֟ ָ , ִ , ָ ïֿ ִ ׸ ־ ָ ׸ , ִ ֕ ׸ãן և , ו֮ ׻֤֮, ֯õ ָ ֕ ו֮ ֲ֕ ׻֋, ֟ ׻֋ ֮֜-׻֮ ׻֋, ֤ ׸ ֮֮ ׻֋ ߾֮ ӑ , , ֯õ ֣ ךև ..

(1/000 ָ ֿ:)

1O/HMS-SK/2.50

֮ ֤ (֟) : ֻ ׻֋ ֜, ߾ֳָ֮ ִ օ , ֕ ֟Դ֮ ֬׮ ߾֮ , ָ ֮ ֋ ֕ ֕֟ ׻֋, ӯע -־ ׻֋, þã ׻֋ ֤ ֤ ׾֬ ֮ ֮֮ , ӵ㌟ ׸ָ ֕ ׸ָ , ߾֮ ֤ ֕ ߾֮ ֟Դ֮ þֺ , ֲ ֤ؕ ֵ ֕ ׌ ֟ ׮ֵָ ֙ߕ֮ ֮ ֟-ׯ֟ ֻܵ

ֳ֬ , ֲ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ײֻ ß ֟Դ֮ ִֵ 7.6 ׮ֵָ ֙ߕ֮ ֮ ֻ ִֵ , 2026 ֲ֤ 17.3 ֋߅ ׸ãן ֮ ֮֮ , ן ִ֣Ԯ ֌

ֳ֬ , ֕ ׮ֵָ ֙ߕ ִõ , ֻܵ Ӿ ֤ , ֕ ֮ , ֕ ִõ ֤ Ӿ ֮֟ Ӿ , ׯ֔ 60 ן , ֕ ָ߲ , ױ Ӿ ָ ן ֳ֟

, ׾֬ ־֮֬ ӯע ֳֻ ߅ ׾֬ ־ã ָ ׮ֵָ ֙ߕ֮ ָ֟ ߵ֟ ָ֬ ָ ׸š ׸ ֻ-ֻ ӯע ֮ ָ ֲ ֯ ֟ , ֵ: ֮ ֟ ӯע ״ֻ֮ פ ֤ ָ֟ וִ׸ , ׵֟ ֟ , ֮ ָ ָ֟ ָ ָ ֬֟ ֣ ָ י ָ ӯע ֮ ָ օ

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please, conclude it now.

֮ ֤ : , ֮ ־ã ֮ , ϟ וֻ օ ֻ ܵ ׾ßָ , ֮֮ߵ ӡ ӡֵֻ ׮־ ָ ֛ ִֵ 7.6 , ׮ֵָ ֙ߕ֮ ָ ׻֋ ֯ ־ã ֮ , ֻ 150 ױ ֜ ܵ ֮ ִõ ִ֮֬ ? ָ, ׮־ ϟ וֻ ֮ , ֯ ׾ֵֻ֪ ־ ֮־֋ ו ִ , ֓ ֛ ָ ׻֋ ָ ֯ ֮־֋, פ ֮ օ

ֲ ֣, : ײֻ ן ֮ ִ֣Ԯ ֌ ֮ ֟ ִ֯ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

1/ևԋֆָ ָ

-SK/YSR/2.55/1P

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Sen, Shri Ekanath K. Thakur has to go to attend a meeting. So he requested to speak. Let him speak for five minutes. Please take only five minutes.

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (MAHARASHTRA): Sir, I will take four minutes. Sir, I am obliged to you for this opportunity. Sir, I have to attend a committee meeting, and therefore, I requested for your special gesture.

Sir, I join the House in congratulating the hon. Minister and the Government of India on bringing forth this Bill which will enable our fraternity, parents and others, to live well in their advanced age.

Sir, it is unfortunate, as my other colleagues have said, that we have to enact a law to bring to the notice of our young generation what should have been very obvious. I particularly feel very pained that a situation should come in this country called India, which has a great heritage, that we have to tell our younger generation to look after their parents.

I am not saying this because I am looking after my parents. Because I am an orphan and lost both my mother and father before the age of two. And right from age of seven onwards, I had been working as a shop boy for 9-10 years and then came up in life. If I had a mother and father I would have probably spoken on this very much because I know what mothers and fathers do for their children. I did not have that benefit, but I still believe in that.

In a progressive State like Maharashtra, I see great destitution all around and in cities like Mumbai and Pune, young men disowning their parents. There is a popular drama in my area where a young person introduces to his girlfriend his father as a servant because he does not look that good and is in advanced age. This is a real tragedy of our life and we have to accept the tragedy as it is. And that is why the Bard of Avon, Shakespeare, went on record to say that one of the greatest evils of this world is man's ingratitude to man.

Sir, the demographic profile is on a continuous change and by 2010 we may have more than 150 million people or 15 crore people beyond the age of 60 and longevity is ever increasing. Longevity in African countries is around 55-60. In the Asian countries, the life span is in the range of 60-65. In European countries, it is about 75. In Japan, today, people live the longest. And all over the world, women live, on an average, five years longer than men. Therefore, mothers are likely to live longer than fathers and therefore one has to have a provision for the old age. And just as in the Japanese society, the children and grand-children take care of their parents and grand-parents, we in our society must encourage our children and grand-children to take care of their parents and grand-parents.

This problem has come because of the western values and mainly because of the failure of our education system. Sir, in my opinion, education is a trinity. Education is a trinity of three H: it is the head, the heart and the hand. (Contd. by RSS/1Q)

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