-SSS/NBR-AKG/1N/12.00.

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

1. SHRI A.K. ANTONY: Sir, I lay on the Table:

I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Defence Notification S.R.O 5 (E) dated the 21st August, 2007, publishing the Cantonment Electoral Rules, 2007, under sub-section (4) of section 347 of the Cantonments Act, 2006, together with delay statement.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

(i)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL), Vasco-da-Gama, Goa, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

(ii)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Limited (GRSE), Kolkata, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

(iii)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

(iv)

(a) Thirty-third Annual Report and Accounts of the Mishra Dhatu Nigam Limited (MIDHANI), Hyderabad, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

(v)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Bangalore, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

(vi)

(a) Thirty-seventh Annual Report and Accounts of the Bharat Dynamics Limited, (BDL), Hyderabad, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

              Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

III. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(a) Twenty-second Annual Report and Accounts of the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), Bangalore, for the year 2006-2007, with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

              Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

2. SHRI E.V.K.S. ELANGOVAN: Sir, I lay on the Table, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956, a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(a) Twenty-fourth Annual Report and Accounts of the National Handloom Development Corporation Limited (NHDC), Lucknow, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Corporation.

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(i)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the National Rural Roads Development Agency (NRRDA), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

                    Review by Government on working of the above Agency.

(ii)

Second Annual Report on the implementation of National Rural Employment Guarantee Act, 2005 (NREGA), for the year 2006-2007.

 

4. SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI: Sir, I beg to lay on the Table a copy (in English and Hindi) of the statement on 'Azadi Express,' and public response to it at different stations during the course of its journey.

(Ends)

5. SHRI OSCAR FERNANDES: Sir, I lay on the Table :

A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Labour and Employment, Notification G.S.R. 3 dated the 29th December, 2006, publishing the Employees' Pension (Amendment) Scheme, 2006 under sub-section (2) of section 7 of the Employees' Provident Funds and Miscellaneous Provisions Act, 1952 along with delay statement.

6. SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, I lay on the Table:

I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Home Affairs Special Order F.No. 5/3/07-M and G dated the 27th November, 2007, authorizing Governor of Goa for additional expenses under Tour Expenses of Schedule-II to the Governors (Allowances and Privileges) Rules, 1987 under sub-section (3) of section 12 of the Governors (Emoluments, Allowances and Privileges) Act, 1982.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(a) Thirty-first Annual Report and Accounts of the Rehabilitation Plantations Limited, Punalur, Kerala, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

III. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(a) Thirty-eighth Annual Report and Accounts of the Repatriates Co-operative Finance and Development Bank Limited (REPCO), Chennai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Bank.

7. SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, I lay on the Table:

I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Home Affairs, under sub-section (3) of section 141 of the Border Security Force Act, 1968.

 

              G.S.R.64 dated the 21st April, 2007, publishing the Ministry of Home Affairs, Border Security Force Draftsman Group 'B' and Group 'C' Post (Combatised) Recruitment Rules, 2007.


 

 

              G.S.R.65 dated the 21st April, 2007, publishing the Border Security Force, Combatised Constable (Daftry) Group C post Recruitment Rules, 2007.

              G.S.R.67 dated the 28th April, 2007, publishing Border Security Force Water Wing Group C Posts Recruitment (Amendment) Rules, 2007.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Home Affairs, under sub-section (3) of section 156 of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force, Act, 1992:

 

              G.S.R. 646 (E) dated the 8th October, 2007, publishing the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force, Armourer Cadre (Group C posts) Recruitment Amendment Rules, 2007.

 

              G.S.R. 647 (E) dated the 8th October, 2007, publishing the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force, Armourer Cadre (Group A and B posts) Recruitment Rules, 2007.

8. SHRI E.V.K.S. ELANGOVAN: Sir, I lay on the Table:

I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

 

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Jute Corporation of India Limited (JCI), Kolkata, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Corporation.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(i)

(a) Forty-second Annual Report and Accounts of the Wool Research Association, Thane, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

          Review by Government on the working of the above Association.

 

(ii)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Central Wool Development Board, Jodhpur, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Board.

 

(iii)

(a) Forty-second Annual Report and Accounts of the Wool and Woollens Export Promotion Council, New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

(iv)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Northern India Textile Research Association (NITRA), Ghaziabad, for the year 2006-2007 together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Association.

 

(v)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel Institute of Textile Management (SVPITM), Coimbatore, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

          Review by Government on the working of the above Institute.

 

(vi)

(a) Fifty-seventh Annual Report and Accounts of the Synthetic and Art Silk Mills Research Association (SASMIRA), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditors Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Association

 

(vii)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Indian Jute Industries Research Association (IJIRA), Kolkata, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

          Review by Government on the working of the above Association.

 

 

(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

 

(viii)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the National Centre for Jute Diversification (NCJD), Kolkata, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Centre.

 

 

(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

9. SHRI ASHWANI KUMAR: Sir, I lay on the Table:

I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Notification of the Ministry of Commerce and Industry (Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion), G.S.R. 677 (E), dated the 24 October, 2007, publishing the Gas Cylinders (Amendment) Rules, 2007, under sub-section (8) of section 18 of the Explosives Act, 1884.

II. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the draft Notification of the Ministry of Commerce and Industry (Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion), F. No. 7 (7) 2006-IP dated the 1st December, 2007, rescinding the principal Notification S.O. 857 (E) dated the 10th December 1997 and subsequent amendments made thereto regarding limit of investment in plant and machinery by industries for consideration as SSI under sub-section 11 B of the Industries (Development and Regulation) Act, 1951.

III. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(a) Second Annual Report and Accounts of the Jammu and Kashmir Development Finance Corporation Limited (JKDFC), Jammu, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

10. SHRI JAIRAM RAMESH: Sir, I lay on the Table :

I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Commerce and Industry (Department of Commerce) Notification G.S.R. 1744 (E) dated the 12th October, 2007, publishing the Special Economic Zones (Second Amendment) Rules, 2007 under sub-section (3) of section 55 of the Special Economic Zones Act, 2005.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(i)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the PEC Limited, New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditors Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

 

(ii)

(a) Forty-fourth Annual Report and Accounts of the MMTC Limited, New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditors Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

 

(iii)

(a) Thirtieth Annual Report and Accounts of the India Trade Promotion Organisation (ITPO), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Organisation.

 

(iv)

(a) Forty-ninth Annual Report and Accounts of the Export Credit Guarantee Corporation of India Limited (ECGC), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

 

             Review by Government on the working of the above Corporation.

III. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (3) of section 21 of the Agricultural and Processed Food Products Export Development Authority Act, 1985:

 

(a) Annual Report of the Agricultural and Processed Food Products Export Development Authority (APEDA), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007.

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Authority.

IV. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under section 25 of the Spices Board Act, 1986:

 

(a) Annual Report of the Spices Board, Cochin, for the year 2006-2007.

(b) Annual Accounts of the Spices Board, Cochin, for the year 2006-2007, and the Audit Report thereon.

(c) Review by Government on the working of the above Board.

V. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(i)

(a) Forty-first Annual Report and Accounts of the Indian Institute of Packaging (IIP), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute.

 

(ii)

(a) Forty-third Annual Report and Accounts of the Indian Institute of Foreign Trade (IIFT), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute.

 

(iii)

(a) Twenty-third Annual Report and Accounts of the Council for Leather Exports (CLE), Chennai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

             Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

(iv)

(a) Forty-ninth Annual Report and Accounts of the Sports Goods Export Promotion Council (SGEPC), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

(v)

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Footwear Design and Development Institute (FDDI), NOIDA, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute.

 

(vi)

(a) Forty-first Annual Report and Accounts of the Gem and Jewellery Export Promotion Council, Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

             Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

(vii)

(a) Annual Report of the Rubber Board, Kottayam, Kerala, for the year 2006-2007.

 

 

(b) Annual Accounts of the Rubber Board, Kottayam, Kerala, for the year 2006-2007, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

 

             Review by Government on the working of the above Board.

 

(viii)

(a) Sixty-seventh Annual Report of the Coffee Board, Bangalore, for the year 2006-2007.

 

 

(b) Annual Accounts of the General Fund for the year 2006-2007 and Pool Fund for the years 2005-2006 and 2006-2007 (from 1.1.2006 to 31.3.2007), of the Coffee Board, Bangalore, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

 

(c) Review by Government on the working of the above Board.

 

(ix)

(a) Fifty-second Annual Report and Accounts of the Engineering Export Promotion Council (EEPC), Kolkata, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

(x)

(a) Forty-ninth Annual Report and Accounts of the Chemicals and Allied Products Export Promotion Council (CAPEXIL), Kolkata, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

(xi)

(a) Forty-fourth Annual Report and Accounts of the Basic Chemicals, Pharmaceuticals and Cosmetics Export Promotion Council (CHEMEXCIL), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

(xii)

(a) Fifty-second Annual Report and Accounts of the Plastics Exports Promotion Council (PLEXCONCIL), Mumbai, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

 

 

(Ends)

REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT ASSURANCES

 

SHRI A. VIJAYARAGHAVAN (KERALA): Sir, I present the Sixty-first Report (in English and Hindi) of the Committee on Government Assurances. (Ends)

REPORTS OF THE DEPARTMENT RELATED PARLIAMENTARYSTANDING COMMITTEE ON HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT

 

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               Two Hundred first Report on Action Taken by Government on the recommendations/observations contained in The Hundred Ninety-second Report on Demands for Grants 2007-2008 (Demand no. 56) of the Department of School Education and Literacy.

 

               Two Hundred second Report on Action Taken by Government on the recommendations/observations contained in The Hundred Ninety-third Report on Demands for Grants 2007-2008 (Demand no. 57) of the Department of Higher Education.

 

               Two Hundred third Report on Action Taken by Government on the recommendations/observations contained in The Hundred Ninety-fourth Report on Demands for Grants 2007-2008 (Demand no. 103) Of the Ministry of Women and Child Development.

 

               Two Hundred fourth Report on Action Taken by Government on the recommendations/observations contained in The Hundred Ninety-fifth Report on Demands for Grants 2007-2008 (Demand no. 104) of the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports.

 

               Two Hundred fifth Report on Action Taken by Government on the recommendations/observations contained in the Hundred Ninety-First Report on Implementation of Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, Mid-Day Meal Scheme and Integrated Child Development Services Scheme in Jammu & Kashmir and North-Eastern States.

(Ends)

ACTION TAKEN STATEMENT OF THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC UNDERTAKINGS

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REPORTS OF THE DEPARTMENT RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

SHRI A. VIJAYARAGHAVAN (KERALA): Sir, I lay on the Table a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Reports of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Information Technology for the year 2007-2008:

            Fifty-first Report on Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations/observations of the Committee contained in their Forty-third Report on Demands for Grants of the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting for the year 2007-2008;

            Fifty-second Report on Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations/observations of the Committee contained in their Forty-fourth Report on Demands for Grants of the Ministry of Communications and Information Technology (Department of Telecommunications) for the year 2007-2008;

            Fifty-Third Report on Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations/observations of the Committee contained in their Forty-fifth Report on Demands for Grants of the Ministry of Communications and Information Technology (Department of Posts) for the year 2007-2008; and

            Fifty-fourth Report on Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations/observations of the Committee contained in their Forty-sixth Report on Demands for Grants of the Ministry of Communications and Information Technology (Department of Information Technology) for the year 2007-2008. (Ends)

4. SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI: Sir, I lay on the Table:

I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting under sub-section (3) of section 8 of the Cinematograph Act, 1952 together with delay statement:

 

             G.S.R. 457 (E) dated the 2nd July, 2007 substituting Rule 36 and Rule 44 of the Cinematograph (Certification) Rules, 1983.

 

             G.S.R. 561 (E) dated the 21st August, 2007, amending G.S.R. 457 (E) dated the 2nd July, 2007.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(a) Twelfth Annual Report and Accounts of the Broadcast Engineering Consultants India Limited (BECIL), Noida, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

III. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the Twenty-eighth Annual Report and Accounts of the Press Council of India, New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts under section 20 of the Press Council Act, 1978.

IV. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute (SRFTI), Kolkata, for the year 2006-2007, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute.

STATEMENT RE.: IMPLEMENTATION OF SIXTEENTH REPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI B.K. HANDIQUE): Sir, I make a statement regarding status of implementation of recommendations contained in the Sixteenth Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Chemicals and Fertilizers. (Ends)

STATEMENT RE.: IMPLEMENTATION OF ONE HUNDRED TWENTY-SIXTH REPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON HOME AFFAIRS

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): Sir, I make a statement regarding status of implementation of recommendations contained in the One Hundred Twenty-sixth Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Home Affairs. (Ends)

STATEMENT RE.: IMPLEMENTATION OF NINTH AND TWENTY-FIRST REPORTS OF THE DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON LABOUR

SHRI E.V.K.S. ELANGOVAN: Sir, I make statements regarding status of implementation of recommendations contained in the Ninth and Twenty-first Reports of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Labour. (Ends) (FOLLOWED BY USY "1O")

USY/PSV/1O/12.05

MATTERS RAISED WITH PERMISSION OF THE CHAIR

RE.: AGITATION BY DALITS UNDER N.A.C.D.O.R.

 

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I would like to draw the attention of the House to the fact that, today, thousand of dalits, from all over the country have gathered, under the leadership of their organization, called, the NACDOR, to raise their voice for justice.

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Please bear in mind the three-minute rule.

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Three minutes are over.

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Please bear in mind the three-minute rule.

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(Ends)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Raja, you may associate yourself with it. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (KARNATAKA): Sir, I associate myself with the matter raised by the Smt. Brinda Karat.

SHRI SHAHID SIDDIQUI (UTTAR PRADESH) : Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I also associate myself with it.

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR (MAHARASHTRA): Sir, I also associate myself with it.

SHRIMATI JAYA BACHCHAN (UTTAR PRADESH); Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI AMAR SINGH (UTTAR PRADESH): Sir, I also associate myself with it.

AN. HON. MEMBER: Sir, we all associate ourselves with it. (Ends)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay: Now, D. Raja. You just associate with it.

SHRI D. RAJA (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity. While associating, I must make a small comment. Hundreds of Dalit organisations, from all over India, under the banner of National Conference of Dalit Organisation, are holding a rally today to voice their concerns.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Raja, please just associate yourself with the statement.

SHRI D. RAJA: Sir, I am asking for one minute time. I will finish in one minute.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please take one minute only.

SHRI D. RAJA: Dalits are the worst victims of unemployment and poverty. They have the lowest human development index in the country. Apart from social discrimination and horrendous atrocities, the Dalits have been suffering from various kinds of exclusions. These organisations have come to demand justice and implementation of the promises made in the CMP of the UPA Government.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Raja, one minute is over.

SHRI D. RAJA: Dalits have been promised reservation in the private sector and a comprehensive legislation for reservation.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude, Mr. Raja. One minute is over.

SHRI D. RAJA: They have been promised land reforms and distribution of land.

MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. Member may kindly conclude.

SHRI D. RAJA: One second, Sir.

MR. CHAIRMAN: One minute is over.

SHRI D. RAJA: There is a policy of Special Component Plan and Tribal Sub-Plan.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Raja, you should associate yourself with the previous statement made by the hon. Member and not make a separate statement.

SHRI D. RAJA: Sir, I am concluding. However, the Planning Commission, which looks after allocation of resources through the Five-year and annual Plans, has never been allocated more than 2 per cent of the planned resources in any of the Five Year Plan.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much. Please do not make a statement. You must just associate yourself with the statement.

SHRI D. RAJA: The Dalits are wondering whether the promise made by the hon. Prime Minster in the NDC meeting in December 2006, where he clearly said..

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Raja, you may please resume your seat.

SHRI D. RAJA: ..about the priority to be given to the Scheduled Castes, the Scheduled Tribes and the Muslims in allocation of plan resources, will ever be fulfilled.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Raja, please conclude now.

SHRI D. RAJA: This House should take note of all those things. How long can these issues be delayed? After 60 years of our Independence, these issues cannot be delayed further. This is my submission.

SHRI SHAHID SIDDIQUI (UTTAR PRADESH): Sir, I associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member. (Ends)

(Followed by PB/1Q)

PB/1q/12.15

RE : DRAFT NATIONAL MINERAL POLICY

MR. CHAIRMAN: Next is, Shri Panda. Mr. Panda, please bear in mind the three-minute rule.

SHRI B.J. PANDA (ORISSA): Sir, I seek the same indulgence that you have showed to the previous Member.

Sir, I raise a matter of very serious national concern which is of particular concern to this House. Sir, this is the Council of States. We represent, not individual constituencies, but the concern of States. The hon. Prime Minister is a Member of this House. Sir, the matter that I raise is that the Chief Ministers of five States, namely, Orissa, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Karnataka and Rajasthan have been writing to the Prime Minister, seeking to meet him to raise a matter of serious importance concerning their States, but are not getting time. This is a matter of serious concern. Sir, this is not something that I am speculating. I have here with me letters from Shri Naveen Patnaik; I have letters from Shri Madhu Koda of Jharkhand; I have a joint representation signed by the Chief Ministers of all the five States; and, Sir, I was part of a delegation of about twenty-five MPs from these five States who went to meet the Prime Minister who himself told us that he has limited time and he cannot meet these Chief Ministers on this issue. ...(Interruptions)...

Sir, the issue is, the Draft Mineral Policy which is today being prepared. Sir, this is something that we need to understand because it has a critical impact on the economies and the livelihoods in these five States. Sir, these five States account for about ninety per cent of the minerals in this country. These are mostly poor States which have suffered from national neglect and active discrimination for more than fifty years.

Sir, I just want to cite two examples. One example is, policies like freight equalisation for fifty years took away the natural economic advantages of these States and they suffered for five decades. Sir, on the issues of royalties, these States get a pittance in royalties. Sir, instead of following the world-wide practice of ad valorem royalties, there are administered royalties, and I can show you the abuse that happens. Royalties are supposed to be revised every three years. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not interrupt. ...(Interruptions)... Please do not interrupt. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, I am not yielding. ...(Interruptions)... Sir, I am not yielding. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not interrupt. ...(Interruptions)... Let him finish. ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Vijayaraghavan, please resume your place. ...(Interruptions)... Do not interrupt. ...(Interrupt)... Please do not interrupt. ...(Interruptions)... Please do not interrupt. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, I am not yielding. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: I would like the hon. Members to sit down. Mr. Panda, please resume and complete in time.

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, allow me to complete. ...(Interruptions)... Sir, recently, as a Member of the Standing Committee on Coal, Steel and Mines, I was aghast to learn that instead of revising coal royalties in three years, as they are required to, royalties were revised after six years. That too, it remains administrative which is subject to all kinds of lobbying.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please finish your point.

SHRI B.J. PANDA: One minute, Sir. Sir, in recent years, these States have started making changes in policies which are helping them to improve their economic condition. Sir, these policies involve value addition which requires investment in the States for operating mines. As a result, hundreds of thousands of crores of investment are coming to these States.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please complete.

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, I will complete in just thirty seconds. Sir, I can talk for Orissa where Orissa has become a revenue-surplus State only in the last few years because of these policies on minerals. Our GDP growth rate has now started exceeding the national average. Sir, I cannot understand why this national policy has to be done in secrecy. ...(Interruptions)... Sir, all Departments of this Government today put up their draft policies on the Website, and it is discussed in public. I cannot understand why the Prime Minister cannot find time for five Chief Ministers to meet them and discuss it. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please, you finish your point. ...(Interruptions)... Next person, please. ...(Interruptions)... Shri Ajay Maroo. ...(Interruptions)... Hon. Members, for matters which are raised with the permission of the Chair at this time, there is an established rule about limited time span. So, kindly adhere to it so that we get on with the rest of the business and give others a chance. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, the point is, the issue raised by Mr. Panda ... ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: We have discussed that matter. He is raising the point, but it has to be done ... ...(Interruptions)... (Following by 1r/SKC)

1r/12.20/skc-asc

MR. CHAIRMAN (CONTD.): That is a different matter...(Interruptions).. What is raised at this time has ...(Interruptions)... Please...(Interruptions)...

SHRI B.J. PANDA: The hon. Prime Minister does have time for five States...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, that is because the Chief Ministers are from non-UPA ruled States. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRIMATI JAYA BACHCHAN: Sir, we sat through the debate yesterday till late. He must be...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, this...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not...(Interruptions)... You are wasting time ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, my last point...(Interruptions)...

SHRIMATI JAYA BACHCHAN: Sir, the subject is very important. Last night we sat through the debate because time was given; he must also be given time ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI EKANATH K. THAKUR: Sir, the matter is very important. ..(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your places. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, I wish to make a last point...(Interruptions)... I would only appeal that the Prime Minister should give the Chief Ministers of these five States the same time that he has for countries like Singapore and Uganda, which are not parts of our country!

MR. CHAIRMAN: Fine. Mr. Ajay Maroo to associate with this statement. ...(Interruptions)...Please; you have to associate with the statement and not make a statement. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI ARUN SHOURIE: But why can't he make a statement while associating? You just allowed Mr. Raja to make a statement while associating himself with the statement made by Shrimati Brinda. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: I am just requesting the hon. Member to associate himself...(Interruptions)...

SHRI ARUN SHOURIE: But, Sir, you must allow...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please, would you allow him to speak? ...(Interruptions)...

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Please...(Interruptions)... Mr. Pany, please resume your place....(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: They can make a representation. ...(Interruptions)..

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Please keep quiet....(Interruptions)..

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Please, Mr. Ahluwalia. ...(Interruptions)..

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Please. I appeal to the ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, in our State also...(Interruptions)...

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MR. CHAIRMAN: I appeal to the Members to kindly...(Interruptions)...

SHRI ARUN SHOURIE: Sir, we are in the Council of States. How could the Chief Ministers of States...(Interruptions)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: They have been making allegations...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, the Leader of the House...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Could we have...(Interruptions)...

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MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. Member has started...(Interruptions)...Please let him finish. ..(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, what is this? ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Pany, please resume your seat. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, the State of Orissa...(Interruptions)...has been given to the State of Orissa. Jharkhand and Orissa have been ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please. I will be...(Interruptions)...

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Your time is over. ...(Interruptions)...

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Maroo, you are violating a commitment given to the Chair. Please bear that in mind...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, why can't you direct the Government? ...(Interruptions)...

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SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, our State...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: No, Mr. Ahluwalia...(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, you must direct the Government...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, you are the Presiding Officer of the Council of State and he is...(Interruptions)...raising his voice...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please listen to the Chair. ...(Interruptions)... These matters are being mentioned

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your place. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Will the Government give their comments...(Interruptions)...

SHRI A. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: Sir, how many times will they disturb the House? ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Will you please listen to the Chair? ...(Interruptions)...These matters are being mentioned...(Interruptions)... Hon. Member, will you resume please?... (Interruptions)...

ֵ ֺ : *

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your place. This will not go on record...(Interruptions)...I would like to draw the attention of the House to a well-established practice that matters which are raised with permission are discussed and brought to the notice of the Chair in the morning meeting. This particular morning, a specific understanding was arrived at that Mr. Panda would raise a subject and Mr. Maroo will associate himself with it. (Contd. by 1s/hk)

HK-VNK/12.25/1s

MR. CHAIRMAN (CONTD): Now, instead of associating himself with it, he is making a full-fledged speech. I would just ..(Interruptions).. We have one more speaker. ..(Interruptions).. Please. May I appeal to you all? ..(Interruptions).. There is one other speaker who is to come up. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI MANOHAR JOSHI: Sir, ..(Interruptions)..

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SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: What is this? ..(Interruptions)..

MR. CHAIRMAN: I have given Shri Maroo enough time. ..(Interruptions).. The time is recorded. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI ARUN SHOURIE: Yesterday, the Chair allowed 45 minutes to Mr. Ram Jethmalani, but stopped Shri Amar Singh. ..(Interruptions

MR. CHAIRMAN: Will you resume your place? ..(Interruptions)..

 

* Not recorded


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MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your place. ..(Interruptions).. Mr. Maroo, will you resume your place? ..(Interruptions).. You are finished. ..(Interruptions).. Please ..(Interruptions)..

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SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: What is this? ..(Interruptions)..

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your places. ..(Interruptions).. Shri Pany, please. ..(Interruptions).. Please resume your places. ..(Interruptions).. Shri Pany, please. ..(Interruptions).. Do you want Shri Pany to speak? ..(Interruptions).. Ahluwaliaji, you are the Chief Whip. ..(Interruptions).. Please resume your places. ..(Interruptions).. Shri Pany ..(Interruptions)..

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SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, you must direct ..(Interruptions)..

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Sinha, this is not the point. ..(Interruptions)..

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SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: We want reply from the Government. ..(Interruptions)..

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your places. ..(Interruptions).. There is a separate procedure for it. You are violating your own procedure. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Where shall we seek protection? ..(Interruptions)..

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KSK/MP/12.30/1T

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MR. CHAIRMAN: Will you please resume your places?

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SHRI SHATRUGHAN SINHA: Sir,...(Interruptions).

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SHRI MANOHAR JOSHI: Sir, you can ask the Government to enquire into this matter.

MR. CHAIRMAN: No, Sir. I do not conceive this point. I think, the understandings are being violated, and I go on record to say that...(Interruptions). Please, go back to your places...(Interruptions).

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MR. CHAIRMAN: I would request hon. Members to resume their places...(Interruptions). The House is adjourned for ten minutes.

***

The House then adjourned at thirty-one minutes

past twelve of the clock.

SK/1U/12.40

The House re-assembled at

forty-one minutes past twelve of the clock

 

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRI PRASANTA CHATTERJEE) in the Chair.

 

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THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: The House is adjourned for another ten minutes.

******

The House then adjourned at

forty-three minutes past twelve of the clock.

-SK/YSR/12.50/1W

The House reassembled at fifty-three minutes past twelve of the clock,

MR. CHAIRMAN in the Chair.

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MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. Leader of the Opposition wishes to speak.

 

MATTERS RAISED WITH PERMISSION OF CHAIR (CONTD.)

 

RIGHT OF CHIEF MINISTERS TO VOICE THIER VIEWS AND OPINIONS WITH PRIME MINISTER

 

THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (SHRI JASWANT SINGH): Mr. Chairman, Sir, we here experienced a little obstruction in the normal functioning of the House. I will not go into the other issues like Member A getting time and Member B not getting time. But that is the reality too. However, Sir, here in this case, there was a grievance expressed by certain Members on account of the difficulty that the Prime Minister had in meeting the Chief Ministers of five States. The central question here is of the respect that is accorded to the principle of federalism and the Chief Ministers of States. I do know, Sir, that a Group of Ministers was constituted. A very senior Member of the Cabinet and Union Home Minister has chaired it. Perhaps a report has already been considered by the Cabinet or is going to be considered. The hon. Members are of the view, Sir, and they have said that the Chief Ministers wanted to call on the Prime Minister after the Group of Ministers had concluded their job. On that occasion also, the Prime Minister has had difficulty in meeting the Chief Ministers, that is from where the grievance is borne.

Also, Sir, various other policies can be put on the website and the opinion of the larger public can be obtained or solicited. A policy like minerals -- whether major or minor mineral -- merits such equal treatment. If that too is put on the website, then where would be the difficulty? And I do believe, Sir, that the Chief Ministers have a right to voice the grievances or opinions or the views of the State as they have the honour to be heads of Governments. That is the point. If the Government would respond to it, we would be very grateful. We have no intention of interrupting the functioning. (Contd. by RSS/1X)

RSS/1X/12.55

SHRI JASWANT SINGH (CONTD.): We do wish to hear the hon. External Affairs Minister, and I am encouraged by the fact that the hon. the Prime Minister is here. He perhaps comes here with the intent of clarifying some of the issues that are being raised as direct questions to him. He would benefit by hearing all this. Perhaps, the Chairman of the Group of Ministers will respond and clarify the situation. (Ends)

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): Sir, we all know that the Prime Minister and other Ministers in the present Government are very happy to meet not only the Chief Ministers of the States, but the Ministers and the MLAs also, and we will continue to do that. In this case, the policy was submitted to the Cabinet, and the Cabinet had constituted a Group of Ministers. That consisted of some Ministers over there, and the Group of Ministers heard the officers, heard the organisations and the private industry people; Group of Ministers received the statements given by the States, and later on, when the hon. Chief Ministers wanted to meet in order to discuss this policy, it was naturally suggested to them that it would be better if the matter which is before the Cabinet and before the Group of Ministers is discussed by them with the Group of Ministers, and we were very happy to welcome them, and they met the Group of Ministers. They met the Group of Ministers not only for 10 minutes or 15 minutes, but for nearly for two hours, the discussion did take place, and each of the Chief Ministers was given the time to explain his point of view, and they did explain their points of view, and they were also asked that if they had anything more than that to submit, they can send those things in writing also. The matter was before the public as such, and this was considered by the outsiders also. Now, Sir, this matter is going to go back to the Cabinet and the Cabinet is going to discuss, and later on, I think, such a big policy matter will definitely be brought to the notice of the Members of the House and that would be the occasion, and if there are certain other things, that can be discussed. We would be only happy to receive the Chief Ministers and Ministers, and anybody who wants to say anything with respect to this policy, and we all know that the hon. Prime Minister has always been very, very considerate and kind to meet anybody wanting to meet. There is no question of not meeting the Chief Ministers, not meeting the Ministers or any important person in the country whenever there is an occasion. But this is the fact which I wanted to put before the House, and I hope that in response to what I have explained, probably, the House would be allowed to take up the matter for which we are all waiting. (Ends)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much. We resume our scheduled agenda. Reply to the discussion on the Indo-US Nuclear Deal raised by Shri Sitaram Yechury on 4th December, 2007. When the House adjourned on the 4th December, 2007, the Deputy Chairman announced that the discussion had concluded, and the Minister will reply. The Minister of External Affairs may, accordingly, be called upon to make his reply.

SHORT DURATION DISCUSSION ON INDO-US NUCLEAR DEAL - (Contd.)

 

THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE): Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Sir. First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to all the hon. Members who have participated in this debate. We started our discussions at 2.00 p.m. and we concluded our discussions without any lunch break at 11.30 P.M. (contd. by 1y)