PREVIOUS HOUR

KSK/3.00/3A

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE (WEST BENGAL): Thank you, Sir. At the very outset, I would heartily congratulate the hon. Minister for Human Resource Development for bringing this Bill and taking initiative for the development and growth of the vast tribal population of our country. But, let me be excused to express some of my apprehensions in this respect. What I mean is that about a year ago, in this House, when we congratulated the concerned Minister for bringing the Scheduled Tribes and other Traditional Forest Dwellers (Recognition of Forest Rights) Bill, we had very high hopes about it. We congratulated the Minister at that time, but, unfortunately, all these hapless tribal people are still awaiting the privileges or benefits of the Bill because these rules have not yet been framed. As I expect that that will be done soon, similarly, I hope that there will not be any such obstacle in implementing the provisions of this Bill, as is dreamt by hon. Minister. As he has taken pains to bring this Bill, we hope that it will be implemented as early as possible. Before I highlight a few clauses, let me quote a line from a poem of Shri Rabindranath Tagore. It is a line from his poem while addressing the highest elite of the society. He says in Bengali, "___(hon. Member may please fill in Bengali quotation)___".

It means that the people whom we are keeping at the back will eventually pull us down or pull us back. That is the message from the poet. I think, it is high time that we cannot keep the tribal population of our country aside and keep them at the back. It is a very welcome step towards upliftment and development of tribal people. So, once again, I congratulate the hon. Minister for it. I hope the hon. Minister will give a little clarification regarding syllabus of the courses that should be taken up in the University. I think, there may be a line of demarcation about these courses. Does this Bill aim at opening any scope for higher education for the tribal students or is it a University for higher research about this vast tribal tradition, their literature, their architecture, and all these things?

(THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN) IN THE CHAIR)

I think, there should be a combination of both because if any tribal student is being admitted to this University, I think, he should have some scope, and, at the same time, the general education should be there along with some particular emphasis on tribal aspects. As you know, presently, in many of the Universities, there is scope for taking other subjects also. Suppose, in Kolkata University, students of Bengali literature also have the scope to take up a special paper on, say, folk art or folk literature at the post-graduate level. Scope is there. So, I would like to ask whether it would be only limited to that or post-graduate students of the University would be allowed to take special subjects or special papers on these tribal aspects.(continued by 3b - sk)

SK/3B/3.05

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE (CONTD.): These are the points, which, I think, if clarified a little more, will be greatly helpful for future course of action.

With regard to admission criteria, it should also be clarified whether the tribal people who are not getting enough opportunities of getting admission in various Universities will be given preference or not, or, in what way it will justify the words 'tribal university'. So far as admission criterion is concerned, I think, that also require some sort of clarification.

I would like to mention a few other points. In section 8, it has been clearly stated that every student of the University shall reside in a hall or hostel or such conditions as may be prescribed by the Ordinances. I think, thereby, it means that it would ideally be a residential university. In that case, a very pertinent thing that we should consider is, many of the students coming from the tribal families are not having sound financial background, if any, for the hostel fee and all these things. If these things are not subsidised, I think, the advantage will be taken by the richer people of the society only. So, if we want to make a provision for residential University, there should also be a provision for low or subsidised rates of hostel fee. (Time-bell)

Then, Sir, in the Statement of Objects and Reasons, there is a mention about high concentration of tribal population and names of some of the States like Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, etc., are there. This is all right. But, I think, you should also consider including West Bengal in the list because high concentration of tribal population is there in West Bengal also. So, they should also have some preference like the other States where a good number of tribal population is there.

I am sorry to refer to one aspect of the Bill where it has been mentioned about ...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please conclude it now.

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE: Sir, I am mentioning about it because, I believe, that all these provisions will reach many foreign countries and what will they think about it? As it is stated here, "At the time of admission, every student shall be required to sign a declaration to the effect that he submits himself to the disciplinary jurisdiction of the Vice-Chancellor and other authorities of the University". Sir, I think, it is not a befitting proposition for this University that is going to be set up. It will lead to a lot of controversy if the students are asked to give some sort of declaration right at the time of admission. It think, at the moment, this practice is prevalent nowhere in our country. Moreover, when it will go to the other foreign Universities and the learned society of the world, they will think something (Time-bell) awkward about it.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please conclude it now.

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE: I am just concluding it, Sir.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: No, no, you have taken nine minutes. You can take one more minute.

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE: Sir, regarding disciplinary aspect and all these things, I think, it will be better to be liberalised about all these things. There is no provision for students union. The students will be guided only by the orders coming from the high-ups in the institution. I think, you must be knowing it better that though all this is in the name of maintaining discipline, this will go against discipline in the academic institutions. (Contd. by ysr-3c)

-SK/YSR-HMS/3.10/3C

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE (CONTD.): Let there be some democratic standard while we are going to set up such a university.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: That is enough.

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE: Again, I congratulate the hon. Minister on bringing this Bill and hope that it will be implemented at an early date and some of the suggestions made not only by me but also by other hon. Members will be taken into account by the hon. Minister. With these words, I conclude. Thank you, Sir.

(Ends)

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׿š ֵָ (ײָ) : ֳ֬ , ֕ ֲ ָ ֣ , ֯ ָ , ֲ ֮ ֯ ָ ֵ

ֳ֬ , ׾֬ ִ֕ פ-פ , imagination , meaningful far-reaching consequences ֻ , ׾֬ , ֮֮ߵ ׿ ӡ Ԯ ֤ ß , ֮֟ , -߮ יֵ ִֵ ִ և ִֵ ָ פ ִ , ־ ֌ , þ֟ פ Ӭ ֯ ׮֤׿֟ ֲ ֛ ֙ 韾 , ׻֋ ָ ִ ָ Ùߙ ãׯ֟ , ׌ ֯ע ִ ָ Ùߙ , ֲ Ùߙ ֜ ֋ ֤ ָ ֯ פ Ԯ׻֙ ִ ָ פ פ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ִ ֟ ֟ ײֻ ֤ logical פև ֛ ִ ִֻ ד֟ ֤ ֵ֯ פև օ ָ ױ , -߮ ֟ ֲ ӡ ־ֲ ָ ׾ֿ ֿ ֻ֮ ִ

, ֟ ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮ ֵֻ ֵ , ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ־ ׿ ׳ֵ֮ ™ þֺ Ϥ֮ ׻֋ ֵ ֵ ־ ׿ ׳ֵ֮ ֲֻ֟ , ֤ ׿ ״ֻ ײֻ ֲ ֕ ֲ ׻֋ , ײֻ ֻ ֻ ׌ ׿ ־ ׿ ™ þֺ օ

, ׾׾ֵֻ֪ þֺ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ֟ ָ ֤ ֮ ֟ , ׮ִ־ã , ָ ֤ ֺ ӡ ֟ ֺ ָ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ֵָ ֮ ׸֓ ׻֋ ֵ ֵ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ׻֋ ֵ ׿ ד֟ ו֮ ֕ ִ֕ ִ֮ ֵ , ׻֋ - ֟ פ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ , ܵ ï™ ׾ßָ ӡ ֣ ׾֬ ֱ֟ ֛ ֮ ָ , ׻֋ ӡ ֵ օ (3/֕ ָ ֿ:)

3D/RSS-KLG/3.15

׿š ֵָ (֟) : ϵ ָ ׮ֳԸ ֕-ָָ ָ ׮ֳԸ ו֮ ֕ ֟ և , Ӭ Ϥ , ֬ Ϥ , ֜ , ָӛ , , ֕ ֕ ָָ ֮ , ֮ ֮ ֕ פ ֡ ׿ ־ã , ו ׬ ׬ פ ֡ , ֮ , ֵָ Ù ׾֪֣ ׾֟ ֳ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ֵ֟ ֜ , ֳ ߓ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ֣ ײ֟

, ֺ ֮֯ ׮ִֵ־ֻ ֮և , ׻֋ ֲ ֵ֮ , ָ ׾׾ֵֻ֪ ֯ ׸֓ ִֻ ־ã ֮֋ כׯ׻֮ ־ã ֓ ֮֯ , ֺ , ׾׾ֵֻ֪ Ù خ Ùߙ ֮ ֻ ׾֪֣ خ ֋Ӆ ֯ ָ ֕ ָָ ׮֤׿֟ ֋ ߓ ֲָָ ֻ֮֙ ֋, ׬ ׬ ׾֪٣ֵ Ӥ Ͼע և ֋, פ ֓ ֮ ׻֋ ֬ ֋, ֮ ן ד ׬ ֜ ׳ֳ־ ֮ ֓ ֮ ִ , ײֻ ֳ ֱ

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, ֮ ֮ ֟ ִ֯ ֮־֤

(ִ֯)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Thank you, Mr. Bashistha Narain Singhji. Now, Kumar Deepak Das. Please conclude within four minutes.

SHRI KUMAR DEEPAK DAS (ASSAM): Mr. Vice-Chairman, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity. This Bill is for promoting avenues of higher education and research facilities for the tribal people. This is a historical Bill, and on behalf of my party, I support this Bill. While supporting the Bill, I want to raise two, three points for the consideration of the hon. Minister. Sir, in the Statement of Objects and Reasons of this Bill, it has been stated: "The access to educational facilities for the vast tribal population in the country is very limited and the tribal youth is at disadvantage in higher studies, leading to quite a low educational and economic status of tribal communities. There is high concentration of tribal population in the North-Eastern States, and in the area comprising parts of Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Orissa, Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra, Rajasthan and Gujarat. Sir, I am representing the North-East region, and I would like to emphasise that there should be a provision for merit scholarships scheme or any other new scholarships scheme in this Bill so that our poor tribal people get benefited out of this Bill while going for higher education.

(contd. by 3e)


-RSS-TMV-AKA/3E/3.20

SHRI KUMAR DEEPAK DAS (CONTD.): We need not only more qualified but also highly motivated teachers. In this regard, considering the importance of such matters, there should be provisions for attractive package of perquisites and support for academic activities, coupled with appropriate recognition of the outstanding achievements of those teachers. In this connection, I would like to raise one serious problem that is faced by the universities of our States. The State Universities are facing serious financial crunch, mainly due to the inadequate allocation by the State Governments. The same problem is going on in our State, including the Guwahati University. Due to this reason, recently, the Vice-Chancellor of the Guwahati University had to resign and the entire student community of the State went on strike.

Sir, this grim scenario is further aggravated with the UGC ceiling on Plan expenditure up to three per cent of the total allocation. So, it is time to look into this matter. There is a very unrealistic situation. Therefore, I would like to give one suggestion to the hon. Minister that this University needs additional grants to increase its corpus fund.

With these few words, I support the Bill and I request the hon. Minister to look into these financial problems. Thank you. (Ends)

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT (WEST BENGAL): Thank you, Sir. My colleague has already spoken on behalf of our party. I would like to join him and other Members in expressing my deep appreciation of the initiative taken by the hon. Minister in bringing such an important legislation before the House. I think, it is in keeping with many other legislations that we have seen coming from the Minister to protect the basic and fundamental issues of social justice and to deal with myriad inequities that we have seen in our educational system, and I would like to congratulate him for it.

Sir, what is of particular significance in this Bill is clause 4(ii). I would like to draw the attention of the House to clause 4(ii) of this Bill. Among the various important objects of the University, it is stated in clause 4(ii):

"(ii) to disseminate and advance knowledge by providing instructional research facilities in tribal art, culture, tradition, language, medicinal systems, customs, forest-based economic activities, flora, fauna and advancements in technologies relating to the natural resources of the tribal areas;".

Why I would like to draw the attention of the House to this very important clause is that, in a way, it challenges, in a significant manner, certain efforts by dominant sections in our society to impose what they consider civilisation norms on the Tribals and Adivasi communities. These efforts have started in some corners of the country by trying to legally renaming the Adivasis as Vanavasis. The term "Adivasi" means the original inhabitant of this country. They want the history to be changed by renaming them as "Vanavasis". There is also an effort to change or homogenise myriad aspects of Tribal cultures, the richness and wealth of the Tribal cultures, which, I consider, in a way, extremely detrimental to the pluralistic traditions and cultures of our country, and it happens. Why is it successful in so many tribal areas? Why is it that, today, so many important traditions of democracy which the so-called mainstream civilised India should try to learn from the Tribal communities is not happening? It is precisely because these cultures have no institutional backer. (Contd. by VK/3F)

 

VK-NB/3F/3.25

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT (CONTD): There is no institutional infrastructure not only to preserve but also to defend, strengthen and disseminate such cultures. In the matter of assimilation, we have seen the destruction of something which is truly civilisational. My colleague, Dr. Naik, has already referred to some very emancipatory attitudes that many Tribal communities have towards women without glorifying it to any extent. There are certain aspects which most definitely the mainstream India can learn from the Tribals about equal status of women. Therefore, what I would like to stress and what I would like to implore the Minister to take into consideration is, how to follow up this important initiative. Then the issue of funds is important. But more important than the issue of funds, the issue of personnel is very crucial. Now we do not know the kind of people who are going to man this University. Therefore, there must be, in the selection process, a transparent procedure to ensure that those who are going to take the leadership in implementing this mandate and charter of the first Tribal Central University in this country, should be the people who abhor the kind of homogenisation that we see in more places of India, who would try and promote the importance of Tribal culture. It is very, very important to have those kind of trained personnel to head the first Central University in this country. Along with this, I would like to stress the importance of regional branches and centres. Therefore, when we set up the Central University, we should have a kind of timeframe in which we should take the initiative from the Central Government, through this university, to persuade the State Governments also to set up such regional branches so as to enable the Tribal students, who may not be enabled or able to go and join the Madhya Pradesh University, to have such branches within their own States.

My last point does not have much to do with the HRD Minister, except that he is a very senior Minister of the Cabinet. I am sure he will agree with me that you cannot accept a right on the one hand and take away a right on the other hand. Where we have accepted and recognised the rights of Tribals in forests, we must ensure that that Act is implemented there. I hope both the Ministers, the Minister of Tribal Affairs and the HRD Minister, will together ensure that there is some comprehensive approach to the rights of Tribals and both these Acts can be implemented swiftly. (Ends)

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ֳ֬ , - ֟ 2003 NDA ָָ ִֵ פ ӣֻ ׾֮֬ ֚ ã֮ פ ֵ , ן ׻֋ ָָ ؓ֟ ӡ ֯ ִ֬ פ ׮־֙ ֮֮ , ִ ӣֻ Ol Chiki ֯ ׮ֵ׌ ֟ ָ ֤֕ פ֮ ׻֋ פ ֆ Birsa Munda, Sidhu-Kanu ֮ ߾֮ פ , ִ ָ ׾µ ׮־֙ ֮־֤

(ִ֯)

Followed by 3G/RG

 

RG/3.30/3G

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Thank you for adhering to the time. Now, Mr. Minister to reply...

DR. E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN: Sir, I would just like to seek two clarifications.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: After the Minister has spoken, you can raise your points. That will be better.

THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH): Sir, I am grateful to the hon. Members for the interest they have taken to comment on this Bill, which I also consider to be of a far-reaching nature and which would have an impact at a time when we will not be here. But, I am sure, the generation, which has been ignored, will come into its own and will make full use of this opportunity that this Bill provides. I know the limitations because in matters like this, there are so many ifs, which, everybody, legitimately, has. But, fortunately or unfortunately, all of them cannot be answered at this time. All I can tell you is that this Bill is not an attempt to gain cheap popularity for any electoral reason nor is it an attempt to create an illusion for any purpose. Nobody knows better than me the hardships which our Adivasi people had to undergo. I come from a predominantly tribal area, and I have seen, life treats them so harshly, and, perhaps, we add to it but don't subtract anything from it. So all this is there. But I think a time comes when we have to lay down the road map for such deprived people with faith and determination. This Government has decided to do that. And, I am sure, all the inhibitions that you might have, with your help, it will be possible to remove them. I must express my gratitude to the Government of Madhya Pradesh for having assured me approximately 300 acres of land to establish this University. Amarkantak is a place which has its unique charm. There are some difficulties in communication, but now the Government of Madhya Pradesh has laid out a good three-lane road, and the railway track, which passes, is hardly 14 kms. from there. (Continued by 3H)

3h/3.35/-rg/ks

SHRI ARJUN SINGH (CONTD.): In due course, I am sure, it will be available for travel right up to Amarkantak. A university is not merely a work of brick and mortar, especially a university like this. To tell you frankly, I do sometimes wonder whether we have not opened a Pandora's Box. It is quite true that like other universities it will not have the infrastructure but then we have to innovate. We do not need high-rise concrete buildings for it. Similarly, in selecting the syllabus, we will have to be very, very careful. There is no need to replicate one more Central university. In India, there is enough to draw from experience in this regard where we can bring out a syllabus which is both relevant and which also takes care of the future.

A reference has been made to appointments. Well, I know whatever you may do in the case of appointments, there will always be something to be picked at. But, till now, I have chosen not to go through the route, which is the well-established route in the university system, of appointing eminent people to the research committee and then accepting what they have to say without any difficulty. It is not the passing of the buck. But I am sure, if eminent academicians make a choice, I should not try to come in-between. The same process will be adopted there but with an angle that we must have someone who believes in this. Merely having a Vice-Chancellor is not enough. We must have a crusader who will be able to lead that university and establish this university.

Something has been said about the name about which I had said in the very beginning. The name of Shrimati Indira Gandhi comes to me naturally because I have had the good fortune to see her operating in many of the development activities in the country and, more so, regarding the adivasis. Most of the economic routes of freedom that have been made available to the adivasis today are the result of her initiatives. A lot needs to be done. But the fact that she took the courage to initiate it itself means much. Therefore, this name was kept. It is no disrespect meant to the other leaders of the tribal population who have made a great contribution to the freedom of our country or in any other respect. We honour all of them. A suggestion has been made that when we name our regional centres, we should adopt the names of such tribal leaders who are there in that area.

(Contd. by 3j/tdb)

TDB/3J/3.40

SHRI ARJUN SINGH (CONTD.): The amendments moved are regarding Scheduled Caste, Scheduled Tribe and Adivasi. Scheduled Tribe, of course, is the official legal nomenclature. But in areas where 'Adivasi' word has been used, it is in the general sense because that is what is understood in this country. Therefore, I will request my friend not to press for that amendment. I shall make sure that the Scheduled Tribe word is taken in its correct and full meaning while going about implementing this Act.

Sir, Brindaji has made some observations to which I attach the highest importance. There is no doubt that in the final analysis, this University, if it is able to fulfil its mandate, will have to come out squarely for the dispossessed tribals and against the establishment. And, therefore, I seek the cooperation and the blessings also of all the Members to help in fortifying this University in such a manner that it speaks for the tribals of this country, for their empowerment, for their rights in the forests, outside the forests and the basic thing their right to education as equal citizens of this country. This is all I have to say, and I would like you to pass this Bill. (Ends)

DR. E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (TAMIL NADU): Sir, actually, the Ministry of Human Resource Development, in reply to a Starred Question said that among the students from 1st standard to 10th standard in Scheduled Tribe areas, there are 80 per cent dropouts. Therefore, there are 20 per cent students who remain there for plus 2 and then for going to the colleges.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, no; it has nothing to do with this Bill.

DR. E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN: I am just asking this.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: It has nothing to do with this Bill.

DR. E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN: Sir, I am creating the ground for putting the question. I want to know from the hon. Minister whether the Government will take or the University will take steps to have a drive for taking the students from the tribal areas itself. They simply publish it in newspapers and say that no students are coming forward for joining it. I want to know whether there will be a drive to find out the eligible students in the tribal areas and make them recruited.

Secondly, even in the job recruitment, the Scheduled Tribe vacancies are not filled up. About 99 per cent posts in all categories were not filled up because the advertisements are not reaching to the tribal areas. Will the Government take the necessary steps so that these advertisements also reach the tribal areas? The hon. Minister is very careful in telling the House that in choosing the Vice-Chancellor or for making appointment to any other post, they will consider according to the Committee. But, I want to know from the hon. Minister whether there will be a preference for the tribal area people, a tribal person who is eligible for becoming the Vice-Chancellor or the Registrar or the head of the department of different departments or the clerical cadre or even the attendant. Will the tribal people be given priority for these posts?

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Minister, would you like to respond?

SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Sir, there is nothing to add because that is all part of the process and it is in the Bill itself that the reservation for tribals at every stage of recruitment will be taken care of. And, I can only assure the hon. Member that once things are done; he won't have all these question to ask. (Ends)

(Followed by 3k-kgg)

gs-kgg/3k/3.45

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: The question is:

That the Bill to establish and incorporate a teaching and affiliating

University at Amarkantak in the State of Madhya Pradesh to

facilitate and promote avenues of higher education and

research facilities for the tribal population in India and to

provide for matters connected therewith or incidental

thereto, be taken into consideration.

 

The motion was adopted.

 

CLAUSE 2: Definitions

 

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: We shall now take up clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill. Clause 2 has three amendments. Nos. 1 & 2 by Shri Shreegopal Vyas. Are you moving, Shri Vyas? Amendment No.11 by Shri Ramdas Agarwal, not present.


ֻ (֜) : Sir, I beg to move:

1.

That at page 3, after line 13, the following be inserted namely:-

 

'(zb) "tribal" means a member of the Scheduled Tribe included in the Constitutional Orders issued under Article 342 of the Constitution;'

2.

That at page 3, line 14, for the bracket and alphabets "(zb)" the bracket and alphabets "(zc)" be substituted.

 

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ֲֵֻ ֲ ׸֟ ׻֋ פ , ֯ ־֮ ֯ þָ ו֋, ׮־ ֮

The question was put and the motion was negatived.

Clause 2 was added to the Bill.

CLAUSE 3: Establishment of University

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): We shall now take up Clause 3. There are two Amendments No. 12 and 13 by Shri Ramdas Agarwal but he is not present.

Clause 3 was added to the Bill.

Clauses 4 to 22 were added to the Bill.

CLAUSE 23: The Court

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: There is one Amendment No.3 by Shri Shreegopal Vyas.

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS (CHHATTISGARH): Sir, I beg to move:

3.

That at page 9, for lines 3 and 4, the following be substituted, namely:-

 

"Provided that as far as possible the Court shall have members from amongst the Scheduled Tribes

Provided further that if adequate number of members of the Scheduled Tribes is not available, members from amongst other than Scheduled Tribes may be considered."

 

֮֮ߵ ֳ֬ , ֮֮ߵ ֤ߵ ֵ ֕ ӡ Ӹ ...(־֮֬)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Simply stick to the Amendments, whether you move or not. (Interruptions)

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS: Sir, I have moved it. Last time also I moved it, but you did not allow me to press it. I want to bring to your notice, Mr. Vice-Chairman, that the entire House has expressed this opinion. As far as possible, people should be taken from Scheduled Tribes only. I hope, everybody present here expresses this view right from that corner to this corner. Kindly understand the sentiments of the House. I am not deviating. The sentiment is the same. But only it is a question of a few words. I request the hon. Minister to respond to it.

The question was put and the motion was negatived.

Clause 23 was added to the Bill.

CLAUSE 24: The Executive Council

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: There is one Amendment No.4 by again Shri Shreegopal Vyas.

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS (CHHATTISGARH): Sir, I beg to move:

4.

That at page 9, for lines 20 and 21, the following be substituted, namely:-

 

''Provided that as far as possible the Executive Council shall have members from amongst the Scheduled Tribes.

Provided further that if adequate number of members of the Scheduled Tribes is not available, members from amongst other than Scheduled Tribes may be considered.''

I would like to say that the same applies from clause 23 to clause 29. I have only expressed the view of the entire House. I request you to kindly understand this. I am sure, Shri Arjun Singh will definitely respond to it.

The question was put and the motion was negatived.

Clause 24 was added to the Bill.

(Contd. by kls/3l)

KLS/3L-3.50

Clause 25: The Academic Council

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): In clause 25, there is one amendment by Shri Shreegopal Vyas.

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS: Sir, I move:

That at page 9, lines 29 and 30, the following be substituted, namely: -

"Provided that as far as possible the Academic Council shall have members from amongst the Scheduled Tribes.

Provided further that if adequate number of members of the Scheduled Tribes is not available, members from amongst other than Scheduled Tribes may be considered."

 

 

The question was put and the motion was negatived.

Clause 25 was added to the Bill.

Clause26: Removal of Employees of University

 

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: We shall now take up clause 26. There is one amendment by Shri Shreegopal Vyas.

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS: Sir, I move:

That at page 9, for lines 38 and 39, the following be substituted, namely:-

"Provided that as far as possible the College Development Council shall have members from amongst the Scheduled Tribes.

Provided further that if adequate number of members of the Scheduled Tribes is not available, members from amongst other than Scheduled Tribes may be considered."

 

The question was put and the motion was negatived.

Clause 26 was added to the Bill.

Clause:27 - Honorary degrees

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): We shall now take up clause 27. There is one amendment by Shri Shreegopal Vyas.

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS: Sir, I move:

"Provided that as far as possible the Boards of Studies, the Academic Boards and the Management Boards shall have members from amongst the Scheduled Tribes.

Provided further that if adequate number of members of the Scheduled Tribes are not available, members from amongst other than Scheduled Tribes may be considered."

 

The question was put and the motion was negatived

Clause 27 was added to the Bill

Clause 28: The Finance Committee

 

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: We shall now take up clause 28. There is one amendment by Shri Shreegopal Vyas.

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS: Sir, I move:

That at page 10, for lines 1 and 2, the following be substituted, namely:-

"Provided that as far as possible the Finance Committee shall have members from amongst the Scheduled Tribes.

Provided further that if adequate number of members of the Scheduled Tribes is not available, members from amongst other than Scheduled Tribes may be considered."

 

The question was put and the motion was negatived.

Clause 28 was added to the Bill.

Clause:29 - Maintenance of discipline among students of University

 

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): We shall now take up clause 29. There is one amendment by Shri Shreegopal Vyas.

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS: Sir, I move:

That at page 10, for lines 5 and 6, the following be substituted, namely:-

"Provided that as far as possible the other authorities of the University shall have members from amongst the Scheduled Tribes.

Provided further that if adequate number of members of the Scheduled Tribes is not available, members from amongst other than Scheduled Tribes may be considered."

 

The question was put and the motion was negatived.

Clause 29 was added to the Bill.

Clauses 30 to 50 were added to the Bill

Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the Title were added to the Bill

 

SHRI ARJUN SINGH: Sir, I move:

That the Bill be passed.

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

(Ends)

THE TYRE CORPORATION OF INDIA LIMITED (DISINVESTMENT OF OWNERSHIP) BILL, 2007

 

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: We shall now take up the next Bill. Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev.

THE MINISTER OF HEAVY INDUSTRIES AND PUBLIC ENTERPRISES (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): Sir, I move:

 

That the Bill to provide for disinvetment of Government's equity in the Tyre Corporation of India Limited and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto, as passed by Lok Sabha, be taken into consideration.

 

The question was proposed.

(Followed by 3M/SSS)

 

SCH/3.55/3M

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