PREVIOUS HOUR

2o/RG/3.00/

DR. E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (contd.): His ambition was to bring the people to develop their skills and develop themselves, through their skill, for a better life. They have completed technical education by theoretical methods; but, practically, they are yet to learn. They have to come within an establishment and learn how production or any such thing is happening within the discipline of establishment. This is the first entry which the Government of India has provided for them, by way of apprenticeship, allowing them to go and enter into an establishment or an industry and learn the skill. If a person has a better skill and he is able to exhibit his skills, then, naturally, the establishment itself would absorb him as one of the technically qualified persons because he has got a formal certificate, and he has proved his eligibility. Therefore, this system has to continue; it has helped a lot of people; in fact, lakhs of people have been benefited. Now, the hon. Minister, who is a dynamic person, has done a lot of things during his short period as Labour Minister, in setting the house in order in his Ministry, which is a very, very important Ministry. It has to be recognised even above the Ministry of Finance. But our system is not exposing to that level the Ministry of Labour. The Ministry of Labour is the real Ministry which addresses issues of 90 per cent of the people who are living here in India. As Shri Arjun Kumar Sengupta has said, about 77 crores of our people are Aam admi, that is, those living below the poverty line, not having even Rs.5-10 for their daily food. Out of these people, 80 per cent belong to the SCs, STs and OBCs. Therefore, these people ought to be guided. Even though we are spending a lot of money, and we are propagating what our Government's policies are, etc., these people are not having the facility to understand in which way they have to go, where they can reach and what their future is. They cannot decide it. Their families are like that. My friend from Maharashtra might feel happy asking for a division whenever the OBC issue comes up. But he has to understand how many crores of people are living in Maharashtra, especially in Mumbai, in poverty conditions, and they all belong to the SC, ST and OBC categories. He is playing his role of a Member here. He has got every right to do so. But we are playing with the lives of crores of people. These people are treated like animals in the industry. They don't have any job at all. A person, who snatched a gold chain, may belong to a minority community or, maybe, he comes from a suppressed family background. But how he was treated! This is the society we are living in. We are not living in the United States or Europe to give every person an opportunity for a living. The opportunity is taken awayby themselves, and that is why, terrorism has come in. What we see is that there is strike for everything, and people are being killed here and there. According to the Constitution-makers, reservation had to be completed within a period of 20 years. But we have not accomplished it yet, and we have not satisfied the conditions. We have not given them an opportunity, given them a place in the society, as envisaged in the Constitution. We then extended it for 20 years more, but could not complete it. Even after 60 years, we have not completed it. Even now we have not filled up the vacancies in Government Departments in respect of SCs, STs and OBCs. We have not fulfilled our obligation. How can you say that we are asking for reservation for everything, without fulfilling the obligation enshrined in the Constitution? You have to continue it even if it is meant for centuries. It only shows your inefficiency. The system is not responding properly. Therefore, I appreciate the hon. Minister for taking this belated attempt, at least, now by bringing in this Bill in favour of people who are poverty-stricken. We are not extending this benefit for the IIT people; we are giving this benefit to those in the Industrial Training Institutes. Persons, who are in IITs, get jobs on the campus itself, and they get salary as high as Rs.2 crores. We are spending tax-payers' money on them. But we are not allowing them not to pay back that money which is due for the poor people. But, here, a person, who has passed his Tenth Standard, joins the Industrial Training Institute and gets a certificate after ten months, and he is just being assured of a stipend of Rs.1,500. But he wants to develop his skills further so that he gets a proper job. But we have not been able to give him a job. And he goes to a foreign country not because of his lure of foreign employment, but because he does not get a job here. (Continued by 2P)

2p/3.05/ks

DR. E. M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (CONTD.): We have been raising this issue everyday. Just recently, nine people from my constituency had come to meet me; they had been deported from Singapore because they couldn't get visas. They had gone there for jobs. You cannot give them jobs here in India. My friend, Shri G. Sanjeeva Reddy, was saying that there was scarcity. Why is there scarcity? It is there because we have not been giving proper jobs to them. I know, in my constituency, from where they have also voted for the hon. Finance Minister, Shri Chidambaram, 18 year old girls get just five rupees for an eight-hour duty. Where are the law enforcement authorities there? Now, Rs.1,500 has to be paid to an apprentice. For what? It is for development of his skills. If he has the skill then the system can absorb him. But, are they absorbing him? Now, we have this unit of BEL, a public sector undertaking, at Trichy. A lot of people appear in this examination for entering into apprenticeship. Thousands of people have been waiting. Why? They have been waiting because they feel that if they get into BEL, they can have an opportunity to utilise and develop their skills further. This is the situation. So, how are you going to respond to these people?

Therefore, I fully appreciate the hon. Minister for having brought forward this Bill. Sir, according to the statistics provided by him, only 2,58,000 people are getting this benefit. I request that it should be made a social obligation to be fulfilled by every industry. They must reserve a certain part of these opportunities for these poor people. There are plenty of people who are coming out of our ITIs with their diploma courses or coming out of evening colleges or coming out of engineering colleges. If they get these opportunities, they can develop their skills and enhance their efficiency which can further help in more and more production in the country. We have been exporting our manpower. People have been going abroad to earn money. But the inborn skills in our people are not utilised here in our country. It is a pathetic situation. Pandit Nehru knew that this will be the fate of our country one day. That is why he had brought forward this law for giving these opportunities to people in Government of India establishments and also in aided and other institutions. Sir, I heard one song wherein it is said that cats and dogs are being adopted as pet animals in families, but we, the human beings, are thrown out of the families. That is the condition of the SCs, the STs and the OBCs. (Ends)

SHRI TIRUCHI SIVA (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I rise to support the Bill on behalf of my party, the DMK. This is one of the proudest moments. Whenever a move is made, from any quarter, to uplift the downtrodden, it becomes our bounden duty to stand by them and to extend our fullest support.

Sir, I recall that the first Constitution amendment was brought forward by Pandit Nehru for providing reservations. The main reason behind that was my State of Tamil Nadu, our mentor, Periyar, and our founder leader, Anna. We also realised that, but for the toil of those leaders and the reform movements, we would not have been educated, we would not have risen to this level. And, forgetting all those past events compels us to realise something which was still unpleasant. The social revolutionary movements in this country and the advent of scientific socialism uplifted the downtrodden people, the socially suppressed people, but yet, we come to know that there are still some Dronas who claim the thumbs of Eklavyas just because of the community they belong to. Skill is not recognized. However qualified a person may be, he is not recognised by way of his community, which was once there. As my colleague, Dr. Natchiappan pointed out once, the Scheduled Castes, the Scheduled Tribes and the Backward Classes people were treated as untouchables; they were not to be seen in the streets. (Contd. by 2q/tdb)

TDB/2Q/3.10

SHRI TIRUCHI SIVA (CONTD.): The meanest animals were allowed to stray along a street, whereas human beings were not. For thousands of years, we have struggled. We can recall the lives of our ancestors, the sad tale of theirs. They were deprived of education. If any person was interested in learning Vedas or something, it was advised that lead should be poured in his ears. It was not in those days only; Sir, it still continues. I am proud to say that I am from Tamil Nadu, that too, from the DMK Party of Periyar, Anna and our incumbent Chief Minister Dr. Kalaignar has enacted so many progressive laws and has given enormous concessions to the backward people and the Scheduled Castes. I would like to inform the Members of this House that recently a law has been enacted in our State that people of all communities can become acharyas in the temples. Those people who were not let into the temples can now enter into the sanctum sanctorum of the temples as acharyas. This is the biggest revolution in this 21st century. So, this Bill has come at the right moment. I would like to thank the hon. Labour Minister for having introduced this amendment providing for reservation for OBCs in the Apprentices Act. This is more essential now because there is a huge backlog in the industries and offices because of lack of qualified and technically efficient students. This amendment paves the way for many of the backward community people who are efficient, to properly train them. It means, that backlog will not go to the general pool now. If the backlog is not fulfilled within a certain timeframe, it will automatically go to the general pool. Sir, like that, in this situation, this amendment is very essential. We have advanced; we have progressed, but still there are certain hurdles. The Government has to take into its hands all responsibilities to uplift the people. Those who were stumbling our way once socially are now trying to stumble our way legally. Only the Government by way of enacting laws, that too laws without any loopholes for anybody to enter in, have to implement it. That is the only way to uplift the Scheduled Castes, the Scheduled Tribes and the Backward Class people. Those efficient people are proving their talents abroad. To stop their exodus, Sir, we have to provide job opportunities for them. Now, employment is abundant whereas qualified students are lagging behind in number. This amendment will naturally satisfy the existing demand. Sir, on behalf of the DMK Party I wholeheartedly appreciate the hon. Minister for having moved this amendment.

(Ends)

SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN (WEST BENGAL): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to speak on this Bill. Sir, my party colleague has already spoken on this Bill. I would like to support the Bill, and at the same time, share the anguish which my friend Dr. Natchiappan has just expressed. Sir, the question is, what would be the fate of this Bill, so far as its implementation and enforcement is concerned, whether it will meet the same fate like the Minimum Wages Act, the Working Hours Act and so on and so forth. This is a very important Bill. This is a very important requirement of the society, and please see to it that it is properly enforced. It is not only enforced on the Government companies but also enforced on the private companies. For this, some mechanism has to be found out. Thirdly, the practice that has developed very recently is, continuing with the apprenticeship and using them in the production process by paying that paltry stipend. Even in major public sector companies, it is now becoming a practice. I am not speaking of private sector because there the entire productive workforce is on contract and they are paid less than the minimum wage. That is a horrible kind of a situation that is prevailing there. So, in the matter of enforcement, please see to it that it is monitored and the apprentices are treated as apprentices only, and they are given training. (Contd. by 2r-sss)

SSS-LT/2R/3.15

SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN (CONTD.): But, they are not used in the production process in lieu of stipend. You use them in the production process. Pay them their dues. Thirdly, I think, a serious linkage needs to be established in the process of apprenticeship and absorption in regular jobs. Otherwise, in the end if they do not get jobs, they will lose their skill and whatever they earn through apprenticeship. Again, I reiterate, the importance of stringent enforcement, both in public sector and private sector, and there must be a mechanism to force it on the private sector. Thank you. (Ends)

׻ (׸) : ֮־֤ , ֲ ӡ ֬և ß־ ֿ߻ ִ ִ֕ , ֟ , ׯ֔ ֟ , ־֮ ֣ ָ ִ ׌ ִ ׻֋ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֬և , ײֻ ֯ ֮֮ߵ ӡ , ֮֮ߵ ֣ ֮ apprenticeship , ֤ ָ ? ֮֮ߵ ӡ և ֻ֮ ֮ ֛ ָ ׻֋ apprenticeship , خ ֯ , ֮ ֵ֮֮ ֟ ? ׻֋ և..և. دֻ߯, וֻ ֮ ֵԻֵ ׬ָ וֻ ׬ָ ׮׿֟ ׵֟ ֮֮ וֻ ֵֻܵ ָ ֮ כÙ וÙ .. ֟ ׮׿֟ ו֮ apprenticeship և , ֮ ןֿ֟ ָ ״ֻ Ӆ

֮־ָ, ו ִֵ ׯ֔ ׾֮֬ ӿ֮ ָ פ ֵ , ִֵ ָ ֆ ֮ ֋ , ֵ֤ ֵ֮֮ ׮ֵ״֟֟֋ ׯ֔ ״׻֟ ןֵ ָ™ ן ׯ֔ ֬ Ϥ, .., ׸ , ִ ִ֮֟ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ָָ ֯ ִ֬ ֲ ׬ ֕ ן ׯ֔ ֟ þ֟: ™ߵ ßָ ָ ׯ֔ ֮ ׻ֵ ֋ ־ã ׮׿֟ ֣ ָ ײֻ ֵ֤ ׯ֔ ֻ

֮־ָ, ִ-߸ ֙, ֲ ֤ ָ߲ , ֕ ֙ , ״߮ , ָ ֟ , ־֕ ֳ ״ֻ֟ More than 30 per cent ־֮ ֣ ִ ׾ñ , , ָ ֳ ֟ פ, ֕ã֮ ֙ ָ ֳ ֟ , ָ Ϥ ֙ ָ ֳ ֟ ׮ֻ ֻ , և ֯ ֲָָ ֓ ׯ֔ , ׯ֔ ֯ , ֯ ... ִ֮ ? י ߿֮ և ו ָָ ֮ : ֮ ו ֟ ׯ֔ , ֲ ֓ ָ ׻֋ ֋ ֋ .. ֙ , ׯ֔ ֟ ָ ֵ֤ ? פ ֙ ֛ , ֙ ׯ֔ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ָָ ֯ ִ֬ ו ן , , ٣ ִו ãן ֟ ׬ ֕ ׯ֔ ״׻֟ ֵ , ™ߵ ßָ ָ ׯ֔ ״׻֟ ֮ ../ .. ֯ע .. , .. , ָ ֻ ִ ִ֮֟ ../.. ֟ ן ./.. ֟ , ָ ... ֲ ֛ ݵ ... ֯ ֟ ׮֚ , ָ ־ ֣ ... ןֵ , ֲ ֟ ןֵ ןֵ ֕ ֲ ֤ ϟכ͟ ֤֕ ֛ ֤֮ פ , ֕ ߴֆ ָ ֲ ֤ ֤ ִ ֮ ֻ ֓ , ָ ֳ ״ֻ ֟ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֬և ֯ ִ֬ ָָ ׾ן և , ׮ֵ״֟֟ , ™ߵ ßָ ָ ϵ , - ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

(followed by 2s nbr)

AKG-NBR/2S/3.20

SHRI ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE (KERALA): Sir, I really appreciate the hon. Minister for bringing forward this amendment Bill before the House, even though it is late. A lot of reservation was there in Kerala. But, even after forty years or so, it was not effective, because there are a lot of loopholes in the system. In Kerala, because of Sachhar Committee Report, a lot of anomalies have been created. Now, through this Bill, the hon. Minister has brought a wonderful amendment. We appreciate and thank the hon. Minister for this. I once again thank him on my behalf and on behalf of my party. Thank you.

(Ends)

֮ ֻ ӛ (ײָ) : ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ֙ ֤ ֮ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֮֕ן ֤ ִ֬ ִ֣Ԯ ֮֯ ִֵ פ, -߮ ֟ ֮ ֟ ִ֯ , ָ -߮ ײ֮ ׾ָ

ֲ ײֻ ִ֣Ԯ ֮֮ߵ ִ ӡ ֬և ִֵ ָ ׾֬ ֤ ß օ ׻֋ ָָ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֬և ֡ ־ã ׸ ָ֬ ָ ָ , ׫ߵ ִ ִ֮ ֲ ߴָ־ ֣ ײי ֟ ֲֻ֕ ߅ ß֮ ִֻ ֮ ֲֻ֕ , ֲֻ֕ ߅ . ֮ ß֮ ָ ׮ , ָ ׾ӛ ֟ , ָ , ו֮ ֤ ׾֮֬ ד֟ ן פ ֵ, ׻֋ ןß֮ ֮ ִו ׾ֳ , ײי ֟ ֳ ֮ , ןß֮ ָ ֲ օ  ֮օ ׸ָ ָ , ֲ ָ , ֟ Ѭ ָ , ™ׯ֟ ֲ ׾֮֬ ָ ־֮֬ օ ָ ָ ־ֿ , ֟ߵ֟ ֟ ׸ ֟ ־֮ ֵ֯׻ ֋, ױ ֵ֯׻ ߅ ֟ , ֵ֯׻ þֳ־ , þֳ־ ֤ , ָ ָ , ֮֕ן ֟ ӡ , ֮֕ן ֮֕ן , ׻֋ ִ֟ ִ֕ ֟ ֲ ִ֟ ִ֕ ֟ , ָ ֟ ߅ ָ ֟ ׻֋ ־ã ִ֕ ־ã ִ֕ ִ֟ , ֺ ֵ֯׻ ׸ ִו ֤ ׸ ִו , ִ֕ , ִֵ ִו ִ ן׮׬֟ ֵ֯׻ ׳֕֟ ׸ ׵ þֺ ָ ד֟ ן , ׯ֔ , ߴ ָ օ (2/ߋ־ ָ ֿ:)

PSV-USY/2T/3.25

֮ ֻ ӛ (֟) : , ߴ ָ Ӿ׮ ־ã ֲ ֤ ֋, ߴ ߴ ָ ָ ׮Ե פ, ֤ ֋ ֤օ ָָ ãֆ , ׿ ã֮ ָ ־֮֬ , ֵ֯׻ ֿ֮׌ ִ֮ י, sovereign ߯ ׾֮֬ ָ ־Կ׌ִ֮ ֮֟ ֮֟ ֲ ָָ ׮, ָָ ׸֟Ԯ ߅ ׻֋ פ ֵ֯׻ ֋ ֵ֯׻ , ֮ ֻ פ ֮֕ן ߅ ӡ ָ ָ Ӿ׮ ׬ָ ...(ִֵ ә)... ׻֋ ֮֨ ׬ָ : ֟ פ ָ ִ֯ , ָ ֟ ֮ ו֋ ֟, ו , ו ִע , ו ״ , љָ -" ׌ ָ, , ָ֯" ׾֮֬ ӿ֮ ו֮ ״ , , ָ֯ օ ו֮ ָ֯ , , ߅ ֯ ׾֮֬ ӿ֮ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ָ , ...(־֮֬)... ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ך, ך...(־֮֬)...

֮ ֻ ӛ : ָ ֟, ߴ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ӛ , ֯ ִ֯ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)... ...(ִֵ ә)...

֮ ֻ ӛ : ֯ ׯ֔ ֮֮ և ...(־֮֬)... , ֳ ןֵ ֮֮ ו֮ ֮ܵ 5 ןֿ֟ , 60 ןֿ֟ ׸ ָ ־ ׻֋ ן ׯ֔ ן , ד֟ ן ד֟ ֮ ן , ֳ ֲָָ ֮ܵ ָ֬ ָ ֯ ֳ ֮֮ ו֋ ...(ִֵ ә)... ֟ ׻֋ ֪ׯ ָ ָ , ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ֯ ߓ-ߓ ֟ ? ...(־֮֬)...

֮ ֻ ӛ : ...(־֮֬)... ־ã ֟ ֣ ֮ ֟ ִ֯ , ׾֬ ִ֣Ԯ ָָ ֣ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֬և

(ִ֯)

ֵָ : ӛ , ֤ ָ ־ã ...(־֮֬)... ֤ ָ ־ã և ֆ ׻֋ ָ և ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ׻֟ ֟߅

׻֟ ֟ (֕ã֮) : ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ֮֯ ִֵ פ, ׻֋ ֯ ָ ֮֮ߵ ӡ þ֟ ׾֬ ֋ ֣ ׾֬ ִ֬ ָי 000 ָ ֓ þ ֮ ֟

ִ֕ ׯ֔ ֋, ™ ֵ ֵ þ֟-ݵ ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ׿ ӡ ״ֻ ִֵ ו ׸ և00և0 , ׻֙׮ , ӕ׮ֵظ ֕ ֋ ֜և ׻֋ , ׿ פ , ָ ֲ , ֲ Ùߙ ָ ֆ ָ ד ֜ ֻ , ָָ 000 ָ ֟ , ָ ֛ ׸ ׌ Ùߙ , ָ ãֆ , ã֮ ׿ ָ , ״ֻ֮ , ֟ ֯ ? ָ ֟ ֯ , ָי ׿ , ָי ֮֮ , ִ ָ ? ־ֻ , ו ֟ ָ ׾ָ֓

֯ ָ ׮־ ֟ ֕ ? ׯ֔ פ ׾֬ ֋, ֟ patch work ֟ - ִõ և, ִõ ִ פ ֵ ӿ֮ ֵօ ׸ ׾ָ֓ ־ֿ ? ו ִֵ ׾֬ ֵ ֵ, ִֵ ߴ֮ ָ֕ ֻ Ӥ ӡ ֟֟ - "The question of undergoing a Legislation for regulating the training of apprentices, in industry, has been under consideration of the Government for a long time. The expert committees, which went into the question, have recommended such a legislation. Although certain establishments in the public and the private sector have been carrying out programmes of training of skilled workers on a systematic basis, but Industry, in general, has not yet fully organized such programmes. (Contd. by 2u -- VP)

2U/HMS-VP/3.30

SHRI LALIT KISHORE CHATURVEDI (CONTD.): In the context of the Five Year Plans and large scale industrial development of the country, there is an increased demand for skilled craftsmanship. The Government considers that it is fully necessary to utilise the facilities available for the training of apprentices and ensure their training in accordance with the programmes, standards, and syllabi drawn up by expert bodies." ߮ ֟֋ ֵ֟ expertise ֋Ӆ ֮֮ߵ, ֳ֯ן , ֕ ֯ ֛ ӕ׮ֵظ ֜ , 0000 , ֜և , ׻֙ ֻ , ו֮ career , ߮-߮ ֻ campus interview , ߬-߬ ָ ֟ ֟ , ֕ Ùߙ خ ֻ ֡ ׻֋ ָ , mediocre , ׿ ֯ ֟, ֻ theoretical ׿ ֯ , practical training ־ֿ ׻֋ ָ֕ ֻ Ӥ ֲֲ֮ ֲ apprenticeship ֋߅ ָ ֯ ׾ָ֓ ־ֿ ו ִֵ ֡ ׿ ֯ , Ùߙ ӛÙ ֯ linkage ? -- ֮ ֮֮ , ֬ Ùߙ ָ և ֮ interaction ָ ָ ֋Ӆ ׻֋ ֯ patch work ֯ ָ ׾ָ֓ ״ֻ, ׻֋ apprentice ־ֿ ֯ 000 ׻֋ ָ , ד֟ , ו ׯ ׻֋ ִֵ ָ֕ ֻ Ӥ ֟ , ? ָ ٟ ׻֋, , ֯ interaction ־ֿ ָ ֓ apprentice ִֵ stipend פ ֋? 5-6 ָ ֟ , ӡ , -- ֲ ֤ ׻֋ ֋, ָ և00և0 ֋, ׻֙׮ ָ ֋ 3/4 of the pay apprentice ֟ ״ֻ֮ ֟ ־ֿ ָ ֯ ֮ ֵ֮, ֬ ֻ ד֟ օ , ֵ specified ׸ apprentice ֟ ֯ ׮־ Government Enterprises , և ֮ߕ , , ׻֋ compulsory ֮֋ ϟ apprentice ֮ ־ֿ ֟ ևԤ ׸ ׻֋ full scale , ׾ָ֓ comprehensive Bill ֋ ֟ ߅ ָ patch work ֵ֤ օ

ӟ ֟ ֮ ֟ ִ֯ , ׬׮ִֵ ָ 4 ֵ "The provisions of this Act shall not apply to any area or to any industry in any area unless the Central Government by notification in the Official Gazette specifies..." ו ֓ , ״֟ ֟ ׸, ו֋ ָ ֋ , handicapped , ָ handicapped persons ו֮ ֣- ־֕ ָ خ ״ֻ ֋ ִ ãן ֮ ֮֟ ִֵ ָ ׻֋ ֟ ־֮֬ ־ֿ ?

, ߮-ָ ز֤ ֯ ֱ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֮ ֮ ϵ֟ , ִ֟ ָ ׾ָ֓ comprehensive Bill ֲ ֟ ֮֋ - ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

(2 ֻ/֕ ָ )

-VP/PK/2W/3.35

DR. M.S. GILL (PUNJAB): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, I thank you for having given me the last minute opportunity. After listening to this debate and after reading this Amendment Bill, I felt I should say something. I thank you for allowing me to speak on this Bill. I will not take too much of time.

Sir, I support the Bill, and I congratulate the hon. Minister. Sir, I think, as far as I have seen, the whole House agrees with me. There are a couple of points I want to make. This is an Apprenticeship Bill. It has come all the way from Nehru's time, that is, 1961. I was just thinking that this is a Bill, which the Government should support financially, with facilities and with liberal stipends, in an unlimited way. This will help the Government because the problem of India is of providing employment. The problem of employment is getting training; worthwhile skilled training. Anybody who gets worthwhile skilled training does not need Government's or Minister's sifarish. ״ֻ ֟ India's economy is expanding. They need plenty of people who are able to do worthwhile technical jobs. Therefore, Sir, I would say to the hon. Minister, -- in fact, to the Prime Minister and the Government because the Minister needs help from the Cabinet also -- and, therefore, I put it further away that, in my opinion, this is a very important and vital part of this country's problem, with which the Prime Minister is struggling, and claiming to add so many jobs. So, for God's sake, if it has not happened before, give him all the money he needs. I think as a Bharatnatyam dancer, he will be very active and he will make sure that all the institutions come up. All the additional ones. ...(Interruptions).. Let me say. Please don't interfere. I am sure, if he is given the money, and if 10, 20 more institutions for training are needed, they will come up. Give them quality; give them staff, equipment and let as many boys and girls go as they can. ß֮ ֓ ֛օ

In the scheme of things in your Budget, it is nothing. I don't want to attack anybody, but my hon. friend here was right to say that IITs and science institutes are all necessary. I do not oppose them. India needs them. ֓ This little thing is there, and, I say, give them all the money.

Secondly, he knows the technicalities of placing them, in putting them as apprentices and in getting them facilities. I believe it is legitimate for the Government, not only to do their own duty through the public sector or wherever they are, but absolutely insist the private sector also. Whatever the Government thinks, they should give to any apprentices or any trainees coming in. If I may say so, even the SEZs should also do it one day.

Thirdly, I would like to add to what my friend said. I think it is a point missed. While this is for ensuring things for two, three categories including OBCs, I think, girls and women are important. They are a major part of our workforce. Today's girls, anywhere in India, have to learn what they can; they have to work. After marriage, they have also to support the family, sometimes, more than the husband. If they are pushed out, then, they have to support themselves and children. The man is gone. I would suggest to the hon. Minister that if it has not come in this Bill, please look at it and try to find a place for the girls of India in totality. (Ends)

כ : ֳ֯ן , ֤ ֳ ִ׮֟ ֤õ ֮־֤ ָ ײֻ ֯ ־ פ ֓ 15-16 ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֮ ־ פ, וִ֮ ֵָ , ֤ߵ ӕ߾ , ֮ ֤ , ֮ ׯֻ , ֮֕ן ֤ , , Ӭ ֤֕ , , Ԯ ֓ߵ֮֯ , ׿־ , ֮֯ , ׻ , ֲ ߾ , ֮ ֻ ӛ , ׻֟ ֟ .. ֻ ֮ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֮ ־ פ ײֻ ׻״֙ ָ֕ ׻֋ ֵ , ױ ָ ӿ֮ ֺ , י׿֯ ָ ӿ֮ ֺ ։ ֮ ו֮֟ ־ ֕ פ ֋ , ִ ֲ ֆ ױו ָ ֮ , ׸־֮ ֺ 2/ ָ

 

PB-AKA/2X/3.40

כ (֟) : ָ ײֻ ֤ attractive ֮֮ , ׻֋ stipend ֤ ־ פ ֵ ֮ ֤ ־ã ֺ , ׻֋ stipend increase ָ ָ stakeholders ֋ ֓ ײֻ ־ ֵ Important training ֤ industry absorb օ ߿ ָ ӛÙ ֻ ־֕ absorb , market ֟ compulsory Apprentices Act ײ, خ compulsory , ׻֋ خ , ױ خ ֤ absorb , ײ  , ֣ ֛ ײ  ָ֯ absorb ׻֋ ֮ ָ օ ׻֋ ։ ֲ  ֮ ־ פ , ֲ ־ ָ stakeholders ֓ ײֻ ־ ֮ ׿ֿ כ ־ ֻ ֕ ֤ , ׻֋ ִֵ ָ ֓ ֕ ײֻ ָ ֓ ֱ Apprentices Act ײ ׸֮̾ ֲֻ֟ , backward SC, ST և  ׸־֮ ֟ ֱ  ָ ֮ ־ ׾ָ֓ , և ״׮Ù ֵ֟ , ָ ֜ - "I invite corporate India to be a partner in making ours a more humane and just society. We need a new partnership for Inclusive Growth based on what I would describe as a Ten-Point Social Charter." CII ؙ ִ׬֟ Ϭִ֮ӡ פ ֵ - "Industry must be pro-active in offering employment to the less privileged, at all levels of the job ladder. The representation companies give to Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, Other Backward Classes, Minorities and Women, in their workforce and staff must increase." ־ - "Invest in people and in their skills. Offer scholarships to promising young people. Fill young people with hope in their future. High rates of growth mean nothing for those who are unable to find employment. We must invest in skill-building and education to make our youth employable. Here too, I appreciate the CII's initiative, CII in upgrading ITIs. This is a very good beginning, but there is more to be done." Ϭִ֮ӡ Ϭִ֮ӡ ֵ֟ ֕ ו֮֟ ָ , ִ ֱ 5 ןֿ֟ skilled Ϭִ֮ӡ ܵ ߲ 50 ןֿ֟ ֮ ߮ ֲ ֤ ָ ֯ ֟ ֯ ֮ ֟ ו֋, ֮ ָ ֔ ׿ ו֋ Give them education how to fish. ָ skill ֮ خ ֤ ֤ ߸-߸ ֮ Ӿ ָ ֛ ֋ ֕ skilled workers ֺ ֮ 500 ITIs world class level ָ ֮ ִ ֵ֮ last year 100 ITIs upgrade ֵօ ֻ 100 ITIs upgrade ('2y/nb' ָ ָ)

2y/3.45/skc

כ (֟) : ֣ ֻ ߮ ֻ 300 և..ևԕ ֻ ֻ ָ ֮ ׿ֿ ־ 1,300 և..ևԕ ײ ָ֙׿֯, և ָ֙׿֯ ӟԟ և ֋ interest free loan, uplift ׻֋ , ֵ֤ ָ ״ֻօ ֕ ӛÙ trained hands ֺ , technical hands ֺ , ִ י ꌙ ֤ օ ָ ӛÙߕ ߻ ꌙ ֵ֤ ֋Ӆ ָ߲ ֤ ֤ , ִ SC/ST , ֛ , ֋ ֲ ֤ handicapped , ָ ֲ faculties , ױ ָ , physically handicapped , ָ֮ , ִ , ӛÙߕ ߻

Stipend ָ ֺ ֮ ֟ , OBC ָ ׸֮̾ , ߻ ײֻ פ ֈ unanimously ײֻ , Ӥ , ߻ ֮ , ֤ ֳ ֤õ ֮־֤

(ִ֯)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now, I put the motion to vote. The question is:

That the Bill further to amend the Apprentices

Act, 1961 be taken into consideration.

 

The motion was adopted.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: We shall now take up clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill.

Clauses 2 to 4 were added to the Bill.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: In Clause 1, there is one amendment (No.2) by Shri Oscar Fernandes.

Clause 1 -Short Title and Commencement

SHRI OSCAR FERNANDES: Sir, I move:-

                                                That at page 1, line 2, for the figure "2006", the figure "2007" be substituted.

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

Clause 1, as amended, was added to the Bill.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There is one amendment (No.1) in the Enacting Formula, by Shri Oscar Fernandes.

ENACTING FORMULA

SHRI OSCAR FERNANDES: Sir, I move:-

1. That at page 1, line 1, for the world "Fifty-seventh" the word

"Fifty-eighth" be substituted.

The question was put and motion was adopted.

The Enacting Formula, as amended, was added to the Bill.

The Title was added to the Bill.

SHRI OSCAR FERNANDES: Sir, I move:

That the Bill, as amended, be passed.

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

....(Interruptions)...

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: Sir, I ask for division. ..(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Joshi, do you want.... (Interruptions)

AN HON. MEMBER: Sir, you have already said that the Bill is passed...(Interruptions)...

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: Sir, I have voted against this idea three times and all the three times the Supreme Court has stood by me. I want it to happen the fourth time. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Your opposition is on record.

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: I want it to be formalised, Sir. Is there any rule which permits you to say `no' when one Member... (Interruptions)

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, he has already spoken on the Bill. And you have already said that the Bill is passed. (Interruptions)

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: It is already passed, Sir. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Joshi, the whole House is requesting you... (Interruptions)

SHRI SURESH PACHOURI: Sir, you have already said that the Bill is passed. (Interruptions)

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, he stood up after you had said that the Bill was passed. (Interruptions)

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: Sir, the Chair has to give its ruling on my request. That is my right. (Interruptions) (Followed by 2z/hk)

-NB/VNK-HK/2z/3.50

Ӭ ֤֕ : , ײֻ ֤ ײֻ ֵօ

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You should have objected in the beginning. All the stages are over and the bill is passed now. Now, the Statement by the Minister.

SHRI SURESH PACHOURI: He is in the other House.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay. We take up the Short Duration discussion on heavy floods. Ms. Pramila Bohidar. Not present. Shri Rudra Narayan Pany.

ֵָ () : , ׻ פ ָ֕

ֳ֯ : ֯ ִ פօ ָ֕

SHORT DURATION DISCUSSION ON HEAVY FLOODS IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND RELIEF MEASURES UNDERTAKEN BY GOVERNMENT...CONTD.

ָ֕ (ֻ֓ Ϥ) : ֮־֤ ֳ֯ן ߅ 14 ß, 2007 ֤ߵ ָ֕ ״ ָ ֜ ãן ֮ , ׾ֵ ֓ ָ

(THE VICE-CHAIRMAN, SHRI UDAY PRATAP SINGH in the Chair)

֮ ֡ ָ ֮ ֡ ֜ ־ ָ ֓ ֛ ֟ ו ָ ָ Ծ־ã - ָ ָ ֟ ߮ ֮ ״ֻ֟ , ֤ ָ ֟ , ֻ ֟ , ֕ ֲָ ֟ ֮ ֮ , ֮ ֜ ֟ ו ָ ãן ֮ , ָ ֻ ֮ , ֮ - ָ ԟӡ , ָ Infrastructure , ִֵ֯֯ ֟ ׾ֵ ָ ֓

ָ ָ פ , ֕ ֟:ֻ ו ָ Ͽ ֵֻ ־ԟ ו ָ ãן ֮ ָ ݻ׿ֵָ , ִ֮֯ ֜ ָ ׯֻ֑֟ ãן ֮ ֻ ֲ ָ ֮ ߮ ߲ օ ֕ ֵֻ ֻ פ ָ ϴ ֛-֛ ֕ ֜ ֟ ֲ ֓ ֟

ײָ ϴ ֕ , ֛-֛ Ͽ׮ ־ã ׬ָ , Ͽ , ִ ׬ӿ ׬ָ ײָ ֟ ָ ָ֮ ֮ ֻ Artisan ֕ ָ ִ ӕֲ ׸ ן , ִ ֕ ָ ֮֟ ֮ ִ ײָ ֻ פ פ ָ ײָ ֲ ו ָ ײָ ׌ ָ ִ ׻֋ ֮ ֛ 60 þ֟ӡ֟ ֿ֟ ֕ ָ ãן ָ ׾ָ֓ ֵօ ֻ ֤ ֻ ָ ֣ ֟ ֣ ָ ߯ ӲӬ (3a ָ ֿ:)

MP/3A/3.55

ָ֕ (֟) : ָ ãׯ֟ , ֜ ׻֋ ֵ , ֕ ֵ ֲִֵ ֕ ֲ ־ֿ ֟ ָ ֜ ãן , פ ָ ֵֻ ׾ֿ , ָ ׾ָ֓ ־ֿ , ɯ ֜ ֟ , ִ -Ù ϳ׾֟ ײָ , ָ Ϥ ֜ ֟ ãן ֮ ֬ Ϥ ֕ã֮....֕ã֮ Ϥ , ϳ׾֟ , ֜ ָ ָ ãן ֮ ֛-֛ ֮ ֋ ָ ָ ֮ ֮ ֛ ָ ָ֟ ֜ ֟ , ֮ 㴲և, ָ ָ֮ , ٣ ֮֕֬ ֟ , 㴲և ָ Ϭ֮ ӡ ӑև ֮֮ פ ִ , ӑև ֮֮ ֵ֕, פ ןפ, ָ ֮ ֜ ֟ , ֮ ֮ ָ ָ ֮-߾֮ ß-ß ֟ , ו ָ 㴲և ָ ָ ֟ ֕ ֮ ־ã ׻֋ ֵ ֛-֛ ֮֕ , ָ ָ֮ ãן ֮ , ֮ ׮ ׻֋, ֮ ִ֮ ֟ , ָ ֤ ִ ֮ ָ ֜ ֟ , ׾ֵ ָ ִ ֋, ָ ָ ׾ ׮׿֟ ֋, ו ãן ָ ֋ ֮ ָ֮ , ו ָ ָ Ծ־ã ָ ָ ֛ , ׻֋ ָָ , ָ™ ָָ , ָָ , ״ֻ- ִ ־ֿ (ִֵ ә)

֤ߵ ֳ֬ , ו Ϥ ֟ , ֵֻ ־ԟ ֻ ןׯϵ Ϥ ָ ֜ ָ ãן ֲָ , ֋ ָ ֜ ãן ֮ ֵֻ ־ԟ ןֲ֟ פ , ׾ֿ ֻ֟֕ ֤ , ִ ֜ ֟ , ָ ֛-֛ ֻ ׾֪ ׸֮֋ ϳ׾֟ ׾ֵ ߮ ָָ ֟ ָ ֻ֟֕ ֤ ָ ֜ ָ ֡ ֻ ֟ , ֟, פ ֮ ֮ ֟ ָ ֲ ֓ ָ ãן ֤ , ו 'cloud burst' ֮ ֟ , ֟ , ָ ֕ ևיױ ׸֓ և , ׾ֿ ֵ ֮ ֟ ִֵ, ֲ Ӿ , ָ ֟ Ӿ ֱ ֟ ֻ֓ Ϥ , Ϥ ֮ , ֚֮ , ӕֲ ֻ֓ ״ֻ֮ ֻ ֌ , ֵօ ֻ֓ Ϥ ׬ӿ פ ָ , ָ ָ ֋ ֋ ָ Ϥ ָ ֻ ׾֪ ׸֮֋ , ֣֯ ꌙ, וִ 1500 ־ ײֻ֕ ֮֟ ָ ײֻ֕ ״ֻ֟ , ִ ֻ֟֕ ֜ ֮ ָ ׸֮ ֱ פ Ӥ ֛߅ ֣-֣ ֤ ֙ ָ ָ ֡ ׸ ־ և , ֻ ׿ִֻ ֟ , ָ ֤ ֟ ֮ ֮ ֵ ָ ׿ִֻ ֻ֮ և, ־ִ֮ , ָ֟ 34 ә Ӥ օ ן׸ ָ ֮־ ֻ ׾֪ ꌙ , ָ ֤ Ӿ, ֟ , ֲ , ֮ ã֮ ָ ֕ ָ ׬ ֋ ־ ֻ ֋, ֕ ִ ָָ - ׸߱ ײ׻֮֙ ֟ ֛-֛ ׸߱ ִ ׸ߕ ֮֟ (3B/SC ָ ֿ:)

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