PREVIOUS HOUR

-NB/VNK-MKS/12.00/1n

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

1. DR. AKHILESH PRASAD SINGH: Sir, I lay on the Table a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(a) Annual Report of the Indian Council of Agricultural Research (ICAR), New Delhi, for the year 2006-2007.

 

(b) Annual Accounts of the Indian Council of Agricultural Research (ICAR), New Delhi, for the year 2005-2006, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (b) above.

 

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN IN THE CHAIR)

2. ־߸ ֤ : , ֤ ִ ֵ ׬׮ִֵ, 1956 ָ 28 ߮ ִ ӡֵֻ ׮ִ׻֟ ׬֮ֆ - ן ( ֣ ) ֳ ֙ ָ ֟ :

 

 

              G.S.R. 1376 (E), dated the 29th August, 2006, nominating the Joint Secretary, Ministry of Agro and Rural Industries, handling work relating to Khadi and Village Industries Commission in the Ministry to attend the meetings of the Commission.

 

              G.S.R. 549 (E), dated the 12th September, 2006, publishing the Khadi and Village Industries Commission Employees (Classification, Control and Appeal) Amendment Regulations, 2006.

 

              G.S.R. 728 (E), dated the 30th November, 2006, publishing the Khadi and Village Industries Commission (Amendment) Rules, 2006.

 

              G.S.R. 91 (E), dated the 19th February, 2007, publishing the Khadi and Village Industries Commission Employees (Classification, Control and Appeal) Amendment Regulations, 2007.

 

              G.S.R. 306 (E), dated the 1st March, 2007,constituting the National Khadi and Village Industries Board consisting of a Chairman and fifty other members.

3. SHRI B.K. HANDIQUE: Sir, I lay on the Table

 

I. (1) A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(i) (a) Twenty-eighth Annual Report and Accounts of the Rashtriya Chemicals and Fertilizers Limited (RCF), Mumbai, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

                   Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

 

(ii) (a) Thirty-second Annual Report and Accounts of the National Fertilizers Limited (NFL), New Delhi, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

            Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

 

(iii) (a) Sixty-second Annual Report and Accounts of the Fertilizer and Chemicals Travancore Limited (FACT), Cochin, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

                   Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

(2) Statements (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(i)(a) Twenty-sixth Annual Report and Accounts of the Krishak Bharati Cooperative Limited (KRIBHCO), New Delhi, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

            Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

 

            Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

             

 

(ii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Fertilizers) and the Rashtriya Chemicals and Fertilizers Limited (RCF), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(iii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Fertilizers) and the Madras Fertilizers Limited (MFL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(iv) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Chemicals and Petrochemicals) and the Hindustan Insecticides Limited (HIL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(v) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Chemicals and Petrochemicals) and the Hindustan Organic Chemicals Limited (HOCL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(vi) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Fertilizers) and the Fertilisers and Chemicals Travancore Limited (FACT), for the year 2007-2008.

 

                                           Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Fertilizers) and the FCI Aravali Gypsum and Minerals India Limited (FAGMIL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(viii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Fertilizers) and the Projects and Development India Limited (PDIL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(ix) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Fertilizers) and the Brahmaputra Valley Fertilizer Corporation Limited (BVFCL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

            Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department of Fertilizers) and the National Fertilizers Limited (NFL), for the year 2007-2008.

4. DR. ANBUMANI RAMDOSS: Sir, I lay on the Table a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(a) Annual Reports and Accounts of the Jansankhya Sthirata Kosh (National Population Stabilisation Fund), New Delhi, for the years 2003-2004, 2004-2005 and 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

            Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

5. ֳָև : , ׬׮ִֵ, 1989 ָ 199 ߮ ӡֵֻ (־ ) ׮ִ׻֟ ׬֮ֆ - ן ( ֣ ) ֳ ֙ ָ ֟ :

 

 

             G.S.R. 429 (E) dated the 15th June, 2007, publishing the Indian Railways (permission for operators to move container trains on Indian Railways) rules, 2007.

 

             G.S.R. 114 (E) dated the 23rd June, 2007, publishing the Railway Protection Force (Amendment) Rules, 2007.

 

(3) G.S.R. 527 (E) dated the 2nd August, 2007, publishing the Railway Protection Force (Amendment) Rules, 2007

6. SHRI B.K. HANDIQUE: Sir, on behalf of my colleague, Shri Kantilal Bhuria, I lay on the Table under sub-section (4) of section 30 of the Central Agricultural University Act, 1992, a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

            Annual Accounts of the Central Agricultural University, Imphal, Manipur, for the year 1998-1999, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

            Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

7. DR. AKHILESH PRASAD SINGH: Sir, I lay on the Table

I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Consumer Affairs, Food and Public Distribution (Department of Food and Public Distribution), under sub-section (6) of section 3 of the Essential Commodities Act, 1955:-

 

                          G.S.R.401 (E)/Ess.Com. Sugarcane, dated the 30th May, 2007, corrigendum to the Notification G.S.R 112 (E)/Ess. Com./Sugarcane dated 12th February, 2004, correcting Statutory Minimum Price (SMP) of NCS Sugars Ltd.

 

             G.S.R. 402 (E)/Ess. Com. Sugarcane, dated the 30th May, 2007, notifying factory-wise SMP of sugarcane for the year 2004-05

 

             G.S.R. 403 (E)/Ess. Com. Sugarcane, dated the 30th May, 2007, notifying factory-wise SMP of sugarcane for the year 2005-06.

 

(4) G.S.R. 404 (E)/Ess. Com. Sugarcane, dated the 30th May, 2007, notifying factory-wise SMP of sugarcane for the year 2006-07.

 

                                    S.O. 1310 (E) dated the 31st July, 2007, obtaining export release order with effect from the 31st July, 2007, and 2007-08 sugar seasons, that is, upto the 30th September, 2008 or till further orders, whichever is earlier, except for export to member countries of European Union and United States.

II. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Consumer Affairs, Food and Public Distribution (Department of Food and Public Distribution) Notification No. EP 36 (2)/99, dated the 15th May, 2007, publishing the Food Corporation of India (Staff) (1st Amendment) Regulations, 2007, under sub- section (5) of section 45 of the Food Corporations Act, 1964.

III. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Consumer Affairs, Food and Public Distribution, Department of Food and Public Distribution) and the Central Warehousing Corporation, for the year 2007-2008.

 

II. SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: Sir, I lay on the Table, under clause (1) of article 151 of the Constitution a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Reports:-

 

            Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India for the year ended 31st March, 2006 (No. 14 of 2007) Union Government (Civil)- Performance Audit of Educational Development of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes (Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment and Ministry of Tribal Affairs);

 

            Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India for the year ended 31st March, 2006 (No. 19 of 2007) Union Government (Civil)- Performance Audit of Procurement of Stores and Machinery in Ordnance Factories (Ministry of Defence); and

 

            Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India for the year ended 31st March, 2006 (No.21 of 2007) Union Government (Civil)- Performance Audit of Functioning of Commercial Wings in the Indian Missions/Posts abroad (Ministry of External Affairs and Department of Commerce).

(ENDS)

REPORTS OF THE COMMITTEE OF PRIVILEGES

 

SHRI R.K. DHAWAN (BIHAR): Sir, I present the following Reports (in English and Hindi) of the Committee of Privileges:

 

(i) Forty-eighth Report on matters of privilege relating to the alleged assault by the police on Shri Munavvar Hassan, the then Member, Rajya Sabha and Prof. Ram Deo Bhandary, Member, Rajya Sabha;

 

(ii) Forty-ninth Report on a matter of privilege against the General Secretary, Vishwa Hindu Parishad for alleged derogatory remarks against Members of Parliament; and

(iii) Fiftieth Report on matters of privilege against the Star News TV Channel relating to the Operation Chakravyuh.

 

(Ends)

 

 


REPORTS OF THE PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE

 

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (KARNATAKA): Sir, I lay on the Table a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Reports of the Public Accounts Committee (2007-2008):-

            Fifty-first Report on Property Management by Ministry of External Affairs; and

            Fifty-fourth Report on Excesses over Voted Grants and Charged Appropriations (2005-2006).

(Ends)

ALLOCATION OF TIME FOR DISPOSAL OF GOVERNMENT

AND OTHER BUSINESS

 

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I have to inform the House that the Business Advisory Committee at its meeting held on Thursday, the 23rd August, 2007, allocated time as follows for Government Legislative and other Business:-

BUSINESS TIME ALLOTED

            Consideration and passing of the Apprentices 2 Hours

(Amendment) Bill, 2006.

(2) Consideration and return of the Appropriation 3 Hours

(Railways) No.3 Bill, 2007, after it has been

passed by Lok Sabha.

(3) Consideration and passing of the Cigarettes 1 Hour

and Other Tobacco Products (Prohibition of

Advertisement and Regulation of Trade and

Commerce Production, Supply and Distribution)

Bill, 2007, after it has been passed by Lok Sabha.

The Committee has recommended that the sitting of the Rajya Sabha fixed for Monday, the 27th August, 2007, may be cancelled.

 

(Ends)

 

STATEMENT RE. IMPLEMENTATION OF HUNDRED

AND FIFTY-THIRD REPORT

AND

IMPLEMENTATION OF HUNDRED AND SEVENTIETH REPORT

OF THE DEPARMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING

COMMITTEE ON HUMAN RESORCE DEVELOPMENT

THE MINISTER OF STATE (INDEPENDENT CHARGE) OF THE MINISTRY OF WOMEN & CHILD DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI RENUKA CHOWDHURY): Sir, I make following statements regarding:

I. Status of implementation of recommendations contained in the Hundred and fifty-third Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Human Resource Development; and

II. Status of implementation of recommendations contained in the Hundred and seventieth Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Human Resource Development.

(Ends)

 

ANNOUNCEMENT RE. GOVERNMENT BUSINESS FOR THE

WEEK COMMENCING 14TH AUGUST, 2007

 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SURESH PACHOURI): Sir, I beg to announce that the Government Business in this House for the week commencing 14th August, 2007 will consist of:-

            Consideration of any item of Government Business carried over from today's Order Paper.

            Consideration and passing of the Apprentices (Amendment)

Bill, 2006.

            Consideration and return of the Appropriation (Railways)

No. 3 Bill, 2007, after it has been passed by Lok Sabha.

            Consideration and passing of the Merchant Shipping

(Amendment) Bill, 2007, as passed by Lok Sabha.

 

(Ends) (Followed by TMV/1O)

 

TMV-MP/1O/12.05

THE APPROPRIATION (NO.3) BILL, 2007

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): Sir, I beg to move:

That the Bill to authorise payment and appropriation of

certain further sums from and out of the Consolidated

Fund of India for the services of the financial year

2007-2008, as passed by Lok Sabha, be taken into

consideration.

 

The question was proposed.

 

ִ֤ Ͼֻ (֕ã֮) : ֳ֯ן , ֯ ֮־֤ ׯϋ֮ ײֻ Ӳָ 3 ָ ֮ ׻֋ ֮֯ ̟֕ ߅ , ӵ ׾֢ ӡ ֲ ֤ כӛ ֟ , ִֵ ִ֮ ָ ֛ ״ֻ֟ , ָ ׸ãןֵ ׾ֿ , ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ ׻֋ ֮ ֟ - ֮ ִֵ ָָ ֻ , ָ ֵ ?

ֳ֯ן , ֤ ֟ ן ֮ ֟ ֱֻ ׿ֵ֟ ߅ ֲ ֻ , ֟ דֻ-דֻ - ֕ , ן ֻ֤ , ן ָ ֛ ֵ ϟכ ֕ ָ ֯ ׌ ֮ ָ֮ , ϟכ , ֯ ֻ , ־ֲ פ ֻ֤ , ֮ ϟכ .... Ӥ , ֯ ... ֮ ֻ , օ ֛-֛ ָ֮ ֻ ߅ ....(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ Ӥ ָ : ָ, ־ֲ ? ָ, ֆ ִֻ

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ֮ ֮ ׻֋ ֯, interrupt ׻֋ ....(־֮֬)..., ֙ ָ ֣ ߴ ִ֯ ֵ ֤ ֤ ֵ ....(־֮֬)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy, we have to discuss the Appropriation Bill. If the hon. Members want to talk, they can go to the lobby. We have made a lot of good arrangements there. You can talk there, not in the House.

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ֳ֯ן , ֟ ׻֋ ָ-ָ ָ ָָ ָ ָ ֟ ָָ, ִ ֤ ֮ ָ ֮ " ֣, ָ߲ ֣", ָ-ָ ֤ ֤ , ֳ ֟ ֛ - ָָ ָ߲ ֣ ָָ ....(־֮֬)...

SHRI PRAVEEN RASHTRAPAL: Sir, are we discussing politics over here? (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. (Interruptions).. Please sit down. (Interruptions)...

SHRI RAMDAS AGARWAL: I am speaking on behalf of my party. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I can't direct him to say what he wants to say about it. (Interruptions)...

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : Economic issues ָ ָ politics discuss , ױ ...(־֮֬)...֯ ߓ ?

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)... ֟ , ׸ ָ ֋օ

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ֳ֯ן , ֟ ֤ ׻֋ ו֮ ׾ָ , ִ ֯ע ו֮ ִ֣Ԯ , ֯ע ӡ ־ã , ӡ ֙ߵ֟ ֙֕ ׾ָ ֮֟ ִ֮ ֮ ...(־֮֬)...

(1 P/MCM ָ )

MCM-VK/1P/12-10

ߴ֟ ׾֯־ : ֙֕ ?

ִ֤ Ͼֻ: ֳ֯ן , ֙֕ ָ ֙֕ פ֮ ӟ ֮ ӟ ָ ֲֻ֟ ִ֟ ִ ֋Ӆ ֳ֯ן , ׻֋ ָ ָ߲ ֮֟ ֮ , ָ , ֜-׻ ׌ , ָ ִ֮ ־ֻ ֟ ٣ ןֵ ָ ָ ָ߲ ߓ ֻ ֤ ߅ ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ , ֯ ִ֮ ֟ ׻֋ ֲ ֮֯ ֮ ֕֙ ִֵ ֲ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֤ ֌־ פ ִֵ ֵ ֲ Ӥ ֤ 000 ֜ ֲ Ӥ ן ִ־ ֳ ֟ ֮֟ ֮֟ Ӥ ֲ ֤ ֜ ֲ և ָ ֬׸ ֣ ָ ֮ ߾ֵ֮֮֯ ߾֮ ֮֯ ֟ ֯ ֲ ֟ ֲ ֮֟ ֕ ֟ ֓ ָ ֮֜ ϵ ָָ , ָָ ִ߮ ָֻ֟ ָ ֓ ײ֟ ָ ֮ ָ ؓ֟ þֵ ׾֢ ӡ ֳ ֮ ָ ֣ ָ ׻֋ ֟ ÙיÙ ֲ ֻ , ÙיÙ ָ֬ ָ ֟ ֮ ֮ פ , ֲ ֛ ־ֿ ־ ֮ ֵ ָ ֮ פ ױ ָ ָ ו ָ ֤ ִ ר , ֓և ֟ ױ ד֟ ֜ ֲ ֕ ָָ ָָ ״ֻ ֮ ֮ ׳֕־ ֮ ֟- ָ ֺ ? ־ֻ ָ ִ֮ ָ , ֮ ֤ 滵 ֯ ? ָ ֟ ָ ׾ָ֓ ָ ִ֮ ׯ֌ָ ï™ ֋ ו֮֟ ϵ ϵ ׸ִ ֟: ָ߲ ֤ ׻֋ ߴ֟ ׸֟ ֳ֯ן , ִ ה֮ ֟ , ӱ˻֮ ׻֋ ׾֢ ӡ ֛ ӟ , ׬ָ ֮֯ן׮׬ ֟ ֤ ןֵ ׯ֔ -߮-ָ ֻ ָָ ׾֢ ӲӬ ָ ӲӬ ãׯ֟ , ß־ ָ ִ ֤ ׻֋ ֮ ֮֬ ֟ ָ ߕ ִ ? ֳ֯ן , ָ ָָ ֮֟ ִ ϴ ֻ֟ ָ ָָ ֟ ֮֟ ֜ ؓ֟ ß־ ָ ָ֬ ֤ ִ ֮ ֻ ߕ , ֙ , , ֻ ֳ֯ן , פ ָ-ָ ֜ ״ֻ ֕, ֙ ֻ ִ ִ֮ ֳ֯ן ֤, ָ ֤ ֙ ֵ ֙ ֲֵ ֵ ָ ֙ ֲֵ ֵ ֻ ֻ ֵ, ױ ֻ ֻ և? ָ ׾ֵ ו ֛ ӳ߸ ӡֵֻ ָָ , ֣ ֻ ϴ ָ ָ߲ ֮֟ ָ֛ ߓ ֟ ֻ ֋ ִָ ־ֿֆ ß ֜ ִ ϟכ , ָ֮ ִ֟ ֕ ֤ ָָ Ӿֿ߻ ׌ , ß׾ ךև - ִ (1Q ָ ֿ:)

GS-KS/12.15/1Q/

ִ֤ Ͼֻ (֟) : ָָ ךև , ִ֮֬ ֻ ֯ statistic ָ֬ ָ ֮ , ׾֢ ӡ , ֯ ӟ ߛ߯ ֮֯ ֱ֟ ֯ , ֻ֮ ֟ ֮֯ ִ , ָ ָ ֯ ׾ָ

ֳ֯ן , ָ ־ֻ ֻ ߛ߯ ָ ӛÙ ֤ ֜ , ߴ ֮ ִ ֻ։, ױ ֻ ֮ ֻ ֮ ִ ֻ։ ? ֮ ִ ֻ֮ ׻֋ ׮׿֟ ֙-ֻ , ֙-ֻ ָ ִ ָ ״ֻ֟ , ױ ֮ ֵ, ߴ ֤ ֮ ֤ ֵ, ֵ֤ , ֵ֤ , ׯ֙׻Ù ֵ֤ ֛ ֵ֤ , ָ߲ ֤ ָ ߛ߯ ֳ ״ֻ ? ֣ ׾֢ ӡ , ֤ ß ־ ָ ӟ™ פև ? ׾֢ ӡ , ֯ ֮֮ ָ ָ Ӥ ָ߲ ֻ ܵ ? ֮ ָ߲ ָ ״ֻ , ֮ ־ֿ ß ִ ? ־ֿ ß ִ ָ ֯ ֮ ׮ָ֮ ?

ֳ֯ן , ֟ ָָ ִֵ ֮ ֻ ָ , ֮ ֯ , ׾֤ ֵ , Ù , , þ֟ , , ָ֮ ׾֢ ӡ ֤ פ֮ ֲ ָ ׾֢ ӡ , ֵ֤ 1995-96 ֟ , ֤ , ֯ ֤ ֤ , ׾֢ ӡ Ù ֓ ִֵ ָ-֜־ ֟ , ?

ֳ֯ן , ׸֛ ֟ ִֵ ֟ ָ Ù ֓ Ӥ, ׮ֵס֟ ֟ , ָ ֯ן ָ և׿ֵֻ Ùߙ֮ , ֣ Ù ֓ ׮ֵӡ ֵ , ָ ֯ ֮

ֳ֯ן , ֕ ֟ ֻ ֤ ױ ֯ ִ֮ ֕ ֟ ײ֟ ָ Ù ֓ ָ ֣ ֕ ׮ֵ ֻ֛ ֮ ָ ֵ , ֕ Ù ֓ ָ ׮ֵӡ ׻ֵ ֲ , ִ ֜ ֟ ֲ ִ ָ ֟

ֳ֯ן , ׾֢ ӡ ֤ ֲ ָ ִ֮ ִֵ ֲ ֿ־ӟ ֮ ׾֢ ӡ , ָ ֤ , ָ Ù ֓ 2700 2400 ָ ֵ , 2400 ָ ֮ ָ ׾֢ ӡ ß߱ ָ 300 ևә ָ־֙ ָ־֙ ? ֮ ־֮ , , ־֮ ֳ֯ן , ֕ ׯ֔ 15 פ Ù ֓ ֮ ָ , ߲-߲ 15500 ևә ֕ 14100 ևә ָ ֵ , 1400 ևә כ ֵ ָ ִֵ 300 ևә ָ ָ ָ ָָ ß߱ ָ ִ ֻ ֵ ֳ֯ן , ֕ ֻ ֟ ִ ֟ ָ ãן , ׾֢ ӡ , ֯ 300 ևә ָ ؓ֟ , 1400 ևә ָ ֲָ ֜ , ָ ָ ֵ֤ ֤ ֟ ָ ֵ, ֛ օ ֕ ֤ , ֟ ָ ָ߲ ֤, Ù ָ ָ , ֛ ֳ֯ן ꤵ, ָ - ֤״ֵ (1ָ ָ ָ)

-GS-KS/ASC-TDB/12.20/1R

ִ֤ Ͼֻ (֟) : ֤ ֮ ָ ָ ֤ , ָ ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ , ֮ ׸ ָ I know that. You had told this once that if somebody is playing in the market, he is playing on his own risk. I know that very well, Sir. But, the point is, the common man does not know who are the players who are now actually controlling the whole market. The market is now controlled by the world market and the world financial institutions, and they are playing as and when they want to play with the market. , ָ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)..

SHRI UDAY PRATAP SINGH: They don't know what are the rules of the game. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: *

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Whatever Mr. Narayanasamy said will not go on record. ...(Interruptions)...

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ָ ֯ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : Ͼֻ , ֯ ֟

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ָ, ß ָ Ӆ , Ù ֓ ָ ֟ ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ ֮֮ , Ͽ ֮֯ Tax havens ֮ , Ùߙ֮ ֮ߕ, ָ ߕ , כ ֵ ֟ Ù ֓ Ù ֤ ֲ ױ ֟ , ֱ ֟ , ײ֮ ָ ֻ ֟ ֟ ָ ֯ע , ֯ ֵ , ֯ ָָ ֵ Ӥ ? ׮Ե ֯ , ׾֢ ӡ ֮֮ ,

Kindly inform the House how much money has come in the capital form in the market in foreign exchange and how much capital has gone back or withdrawn by the foreign institutions or the investors. A lot of money has gone back from the market. How much profit have they earned, without paying tax? How much money has been transferred, without paying tax, to their respective accounts and to their profit accounts?

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* Not recorded.

 

ֳ֯ן , ֮֮ ֲ Ù ָ ֋ ױ , ױ ײ֮ ׾֤ , ֮֯ ׮ִֵ, ֮ ֵ֮ ֮֮ Ùߙ֮ ָ ײ֮ פ, ֮ , ׾֤ ֟ ֮ ו֋ ָ ֋ ֵ, ָ ױ ֻ ֋, ָ ӓ ֵ ӓ ױ ֻ ֋ ֣ ָ ֣ Ӥ ָ߲ ߓ ֻ ֟ דֻ֟ ָ ָ ֵ - ָ ֲֵ ֋ , ָ ׮ֵӡ, ӓ ãן ֮ , ֟ ֟ ׾֤ ָ Ù , ׻Ù Ù כ ֮ ׾֤ , ֮ ֟ , ָ ױ ֮ ֟ , ׻֋ ֮ ָ֮ ־ֿ , ֣ ֮ ָ ִֵ օ Ù ӲӬ ִ֮ ֟ ֟ ֕ ֯ן և׿ֵֻ Ùߙ֮ , ㆻ ֕ ָ ֕ ׮ֵ ָ ׮ֵӡ , ָ ãן ִ֟ ָ ֟ ֟ , - ָָ ֤ , ӲӬ

, ߌָ֓ ָ օ ֕ ãן , ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ ָ ֟ ָ ֕ ָ ֮ ׻ֵ֟ ָ Ù ־֮Դ ֮ , ֟ ֯ ֮ ӓ ָ ָ, ֟ ָ ָ , , ׻֋ ו ָ ָ֮ ֛ , ָ ֯ ׮֕ , ָ ־ã ߅ ֯ ӓ ָ ָ ֟ ָ ָ , ֯ ֵ և ָ ֮ ™ָ֓

(1S/LP ָ ֿ:)

ASC/LP/KGG/12.25/1S

ִ֤ Ͼֻ (֟) :.. ױ ִֵ, ֮ ֤, כӛ ֮ ֤ ֤ ֮ ִֵ ֟ , ֮ ֌ ֮ ֛͟ , ֮ ֮ ֛ ™ָ֓ ֮ ֤֮ ֛ , ָ ֯ ֟ ָ֮ ֯ ֵ ֟ , ֟ , ֵ ֮ ֤ - ִ֮ ֵ ֵ ֟ ֤ ֵ ֟ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ִ֤ ״֮֙ , כ 3.30 ֻߙ ׸և ־ָ , ׻֋ ֳ  ׸ և ֲӤ I am afraid, I will not be able to give more time for speakers than the allotted time.

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ֳ֯ן , ֻ ևә ֯ ׿ֿ օ

ֳ֯ן : ׻֋ ״֮֙ ֯

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ֳ֯ן ꤵ, ֮ ָ ֯ , ָ ..(־֮֬).. ֻ ևәօ Then, Sir, the next point is SEZs. This has also opened a new sector for the tax exemptions. I do not know whether our hon. Finance Minister has agreed with his colleagues, whether he is now fully agreeable to give subsidies of more than Rs.1 lakh crores to industries established in the SEZs. I do not know that. But I hear about it so many times that because he has to control the finances he has some reservation, he has some difficulties to provide such a huge subsidy to industries established in SEZs. ֳ֯ן , ֮ ײ֛ ֟ , ٙևָ ײ֛ ֟ , ֤ ָ ײ֛ ״ֻ, ָ ֟ , ֤ .. ִ֬ More than Rs. 1,50,000 crores exemptions ׸ ֻ ֟ ָָ ִֵ-ִֵ ָ ߕ ׸ ֟ Ӥ֕ ֲ ֮֯ ָ ײ֛ ֲ ֯ ֮ ™ ֕ ֯ ֻ ꌙ ײ֛ ֮ ™ ֮ ™ ֋օ .. ֣ ״֙ , ׾µ ֣ ֮ ֻ ֵ֤ ֮ ׻֋, ָ ֵ֟ ׻֋ ָ ִ ֋ ӟ֟: ָ ֮ ִ֮ ֛օ ֤ ׸ , þֵ ߕ ִֵ-ִֵ ָ ׸

ֳ֯ן , ך ֟ , ׮ֵֻ כߕ ֟ ߅ ָ ֮ ֮ ֤ ֟ ֯ ֮֯ ֓ ߙ ..(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ևә ֣ ֮ Ͽ , ׻֋ ֮ ֻ օ ..(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ׻֋ ו֋ ֲ֕

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : և ӛÙޛ ָ ָ, ׮־ ֮ ֯ ֤ ֯ ָ 400 ֵ ֤ ֓ ֻ ևә ֕ ָָ , ֲ ָ֕ 850 ֋ ָ ָߤ ֟ , ֲ ״ֻ֟ , ֲ ָ ָ֯ ָߤ ֟ ֯ ֮ ֟ 900 ֋ ָߤ ֮ ָ ֻ ִ ִ ִ ״ֻ ִ ׾֤ ֮ ֤ ֵ֕ ָ ָָ Ӿֿ߻֟ ֣ ֮ ָ ֤ ϵ ... ֯և ׻֋ ֵԯ ״ֻ פ ֵԯ ״ֻ ߕ ָ þֳ׾ ָ օ Ù ևә ׮ֵֻ כߕ ו ָ , ָ ׮ֵӡ ׻֋ ׾֢ ӡ ֮֮ ֡ ֮ ߕ ָ ׮ֵӡ ׻֋ ׻֋ ָ ϵ ֳ֯ן , ֮ օ ֮֯ ֮ ׻֋ ։ , ׻֋ ֮־֤ (ִ֯) (followed by 1t)

KLS/1T-12.30

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (RAJASTHAN): Sir, I thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to speak. As far as Appropriation Bill is concerned, this is a formality and I will generally support and vote for it, that is okay. But..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Then on what else do you want to speak?

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: I think, we need to make some comments in general and something on the Appropriation Bill also. I start with the Appropriation Bill, Sir. Just after the passage of the first quarter of current financial year, the Government has come back with the first batch of Supplementary Demands worth Rs.20412 crores of which Rs.19296 crores are voted and the remaining Rs.1115.63 crores are charged on the Consolidated Fund. Most of the charged expenditure is by virtue of the transfers to the State Governments. I would like to know from the hon. Minister whether the Government should seek supplementary demands on the Consolidated Fund of India to make transfers to the State Government, that too without having them voted in Parliament. What is the nature of the expenditure of the State Governments for which such charged supplementary demands are required. It has been observed that often such transfers to the State Governments are put under the personal deposit accounts, thereby avoiding the scrutiny of respective State Legislatures.

Sir, out of Rs. 20412 crores of supplementary demands predictably the revenue expenditure is much, much ahead of capital expenditure meaning thereby that most of the supplementary demands are meant for committed liabilities. I would like to know from the hon. Minister if such committed liabilities have been estimated only in past three months. Why can we not foresee such liabilities at the time of the annual demands for grants? This has been a usual problem. He did reply last time also and maybe, he may continue with the same explanation again. Now, I congratulate the hon. Minister because according to the Finance Ministry's release the kind of collection of tax is unprecedented. The release says that personal income tax received up to 14th of August, 2007 is Rs. 25989 crores which is 35 per cent more than what it was during the same period in the last year. The corporate tax has increased to Rs. 33164 crores, which is 52.3 per cent more, and on an average the direct taxation has increased by 44.4 per cent. Sir, similarly, the indirect taxes about which I read a few days ago in newspapers but I did not have the newspaper cutting because I did not know that I would be speaking on this subject, but I vividly remember that the collection in the service tax, customs, excise, everything is increasing by about 40 per cent. Last year it was 35 per cent during this period. I must congratulate the hon. Minister because after all it is his duty even if it is a thankless job. He raises the funds, resources for the country, for the Government and the base of income tax payees has also increased. For that I congratulate him because it is more widely based now. He himself has said I think in one of the meetings somewhere that more people are willing to pay tax. For that also one reason is that the rate of taxation is much more reasonable than it was before. I wonder with this increase whether the hon. Minister would consider bringing down the rate further, then I am sure the compliance rate will also increase. I can assure the hon. Minister on the basis of the discussion that I have with different segments of the society all over the country, they are all happy to pay the tax if it is at a reasonable level. So more you decrease probably your increase, instead of 50 per cent, will be 100 per cent.

(Contd by 1U/SSS)

SSS-SCH/1U/12.35

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD.): Instead of 30 million taxpayers, it will come to about 100 million. It is not impossible because people want to have a peaceful time. But the problem is, despite that, the Finance Ministry's mindset has changed. Are they willing to trust the people who are paying; the taxpayers? It is a little more than what they were trusting before because a number of times the tax payers tell us that more they pay, more the trouble is created by the Department. I do not say those who are evading tax should not be taken to task but let us be more concerned, let there be real, good information. So, I would request the hon. Minister, to take strongest action possible on somebody evading tax. But, just because we have a department to handle seizures, raids and all kinds of things, just to keep them employed I find a number of times that one particular road is covered. I mean, all the houses should be raided. Or if you go to a building, all the flats should be raided. Nowadays, Sir, the joint family system is also disintegrating but they live in the same house. They might live in the same flat but the brothers and sisters do not have anything else to do with each other. But, if there is one brother, one sister and if there is an inquiry against one, the entire family is questioned. Some improvement has to come in all these things. When there is better compliance our mindset also has to change.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bagrodia, you have disclosed your interest under the Ethics Committee that you are a taxpayer.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: Yes, yes, Mr. Deputy Chairman you have mentioned. My interest is in the Government, my interest is in the society, my interest is in the country and this is what I want to disclose. If you want any further disclosure then let me know. You tell me what more disclosure you want. My income tax records are with the Parliament, and, I am one of those whose records are up to date with the Parliament. I am sure if you check with your own department, you will see that I am up to date. That is by nature. We have to keep ourselves up to date. So, that is happening by nature.

SHRI AMAR SINGH: Government is kind to you.

SHRIMATI JAYA BACHCHAN: Even if it is in your nature, it is not possible.

SHRI AMAR SINGH: Government is kind to you. Sometimes it is very unkind,...(Interruptions)...

SHRI RUDRA NARAYAN PANY: You are also our Vice-Chairman. (Interruptions)

ӟ ֛פ: ֟ ...(־֮֬) ֵ և ...(־֮֬) ֌ ։ ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן: ֯ ׻֋, ׻֋....(־֮֬) ֛פ , ֯ , ׻֋, ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)

ӟ ֛פ: ֌ ։ ..(־֮֬) ևӛ ևӛ ...(־֮֬) ֕ ....(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ֵ ֮֓: ָ ևӛ ײֻ ֱ ָ ߵ֟ , ָ ֯ ߵ֟ ֲָ ...(־֮֬)

SHRI AMAR SINGH: I appreciate your honesty but we realise what Government does at times.

ֳ֯ן: ָ , ֯ ̸ ֮ ו֋, ֤ ...(־֮֬)

ֵָ : ָ, ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן: , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)

SHRI AMAR SINGH: If I submit my return, they may not accept it; they will reopen it.

ӟ ֛פ: ֟ ֯ - , But, I thank you for your appreciation, that is all. If there is anything else or any advice from me please meet me outside. I will give you good advice without any charges. Sir, I would like to draw the attention of the hon. Minister to a very serious matter. It is as per the law, the Government decided to give target plus benefit to the buyer and that was, of course, to the Commerce Ministry. But, Finally, it is the Customs and Excise Department, which comes into the picture. The practice was, it was handled by MMTC, STC and by private people also. What is happening, Sir, is because of export benefits, they call it target plus benefits, and there are agents in Mumbai, Delhi and the manufacturer exports. Only the merchant exporter gets transfer of documents. It is not illegal. It is all done on contract basis.

(Contd. by NBR/1W)

-SSS/NB-PSV/1W/12.40.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD.): Now, there is no method by which this merchant-exporter will know what the real manufacturer-exporter is doing. If he is over-invoicing or if he is doing any manipulation, there is no system to find out and, most of the time, the merchant-exporter and the manufacturer do not even know each other. They only see papers through agents. When it is noticed that the actual manufacturer, who is exporting, is manipulating the accounts by way of over-invoicing or under-invoicing and through all sorts of things, in that case, he should be used as an approver to get all the information. But the real problem is from the manufacturer who actually handles this. All action should be taken against him. But, hundreds of other merchant-exporters, who are trying to take the benefit of target-plus-benefit, should be spared from unnecessary harassment. If they have also done anything in collusion, action should be taken. But, just because they have used this facility, which the Government is giving, unnecessary action should not be taken.

Now, I come to economic growth and inflation. Due to efforts of the hon. Minister and the Government the economic reforms of 90s put the economy on a rising growth trend. The growth of GDP at constant prices during 2006-07 is estimated to be at 9.4 per cent. That is all unprecedented. Continuous improvement in investment over the past four years has led to an increase in the investment ratio. The gross domestic capital formation in 2004-05 and 2005-06 has been estimated to be 31.5 per cent and 33.8 per cent respectively. It is expected to increase further in 2006-07. These are congratulatory things for the hon. Minister. I am speaking all these good words so that he can also change his mind set. This is all truth. The rise in investment has been supported by rise in savings rate. The savings rate is also rising. Gross domestic savings, as proportion to the GDP, increased from 26.4 per cent in 2002-03 to 29.7 per cent in 2003-04 to 31.1 per cent in 2004-05 and to 32.45 per cent in 2005-06. I am sure, our Government is confident of sustaining the growth. While financial resources are important for development. But, ultimately, it is the entrepreneurial abilities that drive the growth. I wish the hon. Minister to invest this surplus revenue in such a way so that more and more people can be trained for entrepreneurial growth. Sir, the faster growth will generate new jobs at a faster rate than before. There are no Government jobs now. The jobs are only self-employment. That is why the entrepreneurial growth is required. As per the 61st Round of NSSO Survey, average annual growth in employment, during 2000-01 to 2004-05, stood at 2.5 per cent, exceeded the rate of growth of population. The rate of growth of employment was also higher when compared to the growth achieved in the previous fifteen years. As a result of higher growth in employment, together with programmes which focused on poverty alleviation, the head count ratio of poverty declined to about 22 per cent based on mix-recall period in 2004-05. This greater openness of the economy has led to the rising shares of exports to the GDP. This is linked to the rising competitiveness of the economy. But, I really don't know with the strong rupee how it is going to affect the exports. If the hon. Minister can throw some light on this, it would be better. It will be a good idea, because the exporters are very, very concerned about the appreciation of the rupee. The entire textile industry is in doldrums, because the profitability in this employment-oriented industry is very minimal -- 1 per cent or 2 per cent or 3 per cent. Suddenly, if this kind of a situation arises, industry will be in turmoil. (CONTD. BY USY "1X")

-NBR-USY/HMS/1x/12.45

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD.): If they are closed, we will have other side effects. I will request the hon. Minister to look into it. A higher growth and increased competitiveness is mirrored in a faster growth of industries and services in the last four years. Number one, manufacturing sector has grown at a healthy rate of 9.2 per cent per year in the last four years. It accelerated to 12.3 per cent in 2006-07, that is, last year. Number two, measured in terms of index of industrial production, manufacturing growth had reached 12.5 per cent last year, that is, 2006-07. In the first two months of the current year, manufacturing sector growth was maintained at a healthy 12.7 per cent. The capital goods registered a growth of 18.3 per cent in the year 2006-07. The growth momentum is being maintained in the current year as well. ִ֤ , ֯ ָ ֟ և - ֯ ׿ֵ֟ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ו֋ ָָ - ֯ ֻ ׿ֵ֟ ֯ ֟ ֮ ֻ Construction has been growing at 12.8 per cent per year, contributing greatly in creation of unskilled job, which directly benefit the poor and low-income workers. ֯ poor ֟ , 12.8 ָ Similarly, Trade, hotels, transport, communication and other sectors have also witnessed growth. Communication sector, which generate a large number of unskilled and semi-skilled jobs has grown by 11.6 per cent per year. ֯ ֤ؕ , օ ׯ֔ 50 ִֵ ...(־֮֬)... Financing, insurance, real estate and business services have been growing at the rate of 8.9 per cent per year. I would just quickly mention, in points, the actions to be taken by the Central Government because I am aware of the time constraint. Now, I come to the launch of Food Security Mission. Ͼֻ , ? , ? ־ֲ because we are objecting only for the sake of objection. Everybody, from the NDA, has been mentioning in all the discussions, that is why we are importing at a higher price; why don't we give to the farmers? Agarwaji comes from a business community. He has done business worth crores and crores of rupees. (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI JAYA BACHCHAN: How do you know? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: They know each other.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: I mean, he understands what business is. I am just trying to explain this. What is the concept of business? I would like to tell you in one second.

Ͽӟ ֙ : ֯ ײ֮֕ ֟ , ֟ ד֋

ָ : ִ֯ףֵ ֟ ד֋ ...(־֮֬)... ִ ֤ ֟ ד֋ ...(־֮֬)...

ӟ ֛פ : ִ֤ ײ֮֕ ֮֟, ֮֟ ֮ ֟ ֟ (Interruptions) I will explain what business is. (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI JAYA BACHCHAN: Sir, I would like to state in this House that it seems there are only two groups -- the NDA and the UPA. There is a huge chunk in between. They are never addressed. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bagrodia, please address to the new group also. (Interruptions) Don't address only the NDA. Address the UNPA also. (Interruptions)

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ֳ֯ן , ָ ֻ , ֟ - ָߤ ֻ ָ ָߤ ֟ , ֻ ...(־֮֬)....

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: I will explain in one second. I will not take long time. ((Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There is restriction of time also. (Interruptions)

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: I will take two-three minutes more because I don't wan to take longer time on this as I am committed to finish it in time.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: That's why I am reminding you. (Interruptions)

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: Thank you very much for reminding. I appreciate. But I only request them, with folded hands, to please listen to me for two-three minutes. If you increase the rates for SMP, that will become a permanent feature. Supposing, you need one crore tonnes and you have received 98 lakh tonnes. Now, for those 2 lakh tonnes, you don't increase the rate of 98 lakh tonnes. You just supplement that at whatever price is available in the world market, on which you have no control. And, the prices, which the NDA had increased during the last six-seven years, was Rs. 10 per tonne, per year; whereas, this Government has increased from Rs. 15o per year. (Interruptions) What are you talking about! Forget about it. They knowingly do not want to know. (Contd. by 1 y -- PB)

PB/1Y/12.50

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD.): But, at this stage, I would like to draw the attention of the hon. Minister ... ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI RAMDAS AGARWAL: Sir, ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: No; no; please. No; ...(Interruptions)... because I must finish. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: It is his view. ִ ־ֻ ֲֲ

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: No; I can't afford to waste time. Sir, the prices of vegetables have gone very high. This may not be directly your responsibility, but nobody bothers about statistics. Nobody bothers about the information that the growth rate is so much, the GDP has grown by so much and things like that. But if the prices of potatoes, tomatoes and onions go up, that hurts every citizen in the country. So, that responsibility lies with the Government. So, I request the hon. Minister that as Government, you have to ensure that enough supplies are there. Whatever you do, whatever measures you take, unless there is enough supply, prices would not come down. You have been able to arrange enough dal, you have been able to arrange enough wheat and therefore, the prices have come down to certain limits. Similarly, the prices of these things will come down only if you arrange the supplies in time.

Sir, though I had plenty of points to mention, but due to paucity of time, lastly, I would mention only one or two points.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: One is sufficient.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: The funding to the SSI should be properly distributed at the village level. I am not going to elaborate this point any further.

Sir, the last point that I would like to mention is about the SEZs. My friend has also mentioned about it. I would also like to say something about this. I am not going into the merits of the SEZs. But I would like to draw your attention to the Surat SEZ. The whole purpose of creating SEZ was to have new investment, new technology and more employment. But what has happened? It was an Export Promotion Zone (EPZ) in Surat. After taking benefits of EPZ for many years, now with same unit, same investment and same employment, they have just changed its name as 'SEZ'. Now, they are taking benefits of SEZs. Please stop this kind of a practice. I am giving you the name of Surat SEZ. Unless this is done, the whole purpose of having SEZs will be defeated.

Sir, with these words, I conclude. Thank you very much. (Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The next speaker will be from the S.P. and then from the CPI(M). But since Dr. Malaisamy has requested both of them to allow him to speak before them, so, if both of you agree, I will call Dr. Malaisamy.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Yes; Sir. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Dr. Malaisamy, your party has only five minutes.

DR. K. MALAISAMY: Sir, I think, it is eleven minutes. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: It is five minutes, not eleven minutes. ...(Interruptions)... I am reminding you because we cannot extend this discussion on the Appropriation Bill beyond 3.30 p.m. As you know, today is Private Members' Legislative Business day, and if we do it after that, then, it will be at the cost of Private Members' Business. That is why I am saying this. We have already taken one hour from it. So, please conclude in five minutes.

DR. K. MALAISAMY (TAMIL NADU): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, thank you very much for giving preference to speak in advance of my other colleagues. ...(Interruptions)... Sir, looking at your mood ...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Don't worry about my mood; my mood is good.

DR. K. MALAISAMY: Sir, I will try to be as quick as possible and certainly try to oblige you. ...(Interruptions)... Sir, as far as the Appropriation Bill is concerned, as rightly said by Shri Santosh Bagrodia, the hon. Minister is seeking for additional expenditure of Rs.20412.14 crore. Out of that, the net outgo is only Rs.10428.02 crore, while the remainder is being maintained by savings, etc. When I see this, except some small changes in the figures, the concept and the way they are going, it is as good as the previous year's Bill. According to me, it is the usual exercise that we are doing.

Sir, before coming to the subject, I am able to see how the Finance Ministry, through their tools, are running the administration as a whole because whatever is needed by the Government for its various programmes of development, the input is being given from the Finance Ministry only. As such, they promote welfare, development, help to remove poverty, unemployment, mal-distribution of wealth, inequality and check inflation etc., by bringing safety and happiness to the people.
As such, they are playing a vital role. (Contd. by SKC/1z)

1z/12.55/skc

DR. K. MALAISAMY (CONTD.): Sir, as far as the purpose envisaged is concerned, I am sorry to make a general observation. We have just celebrated the 60th anniversary of our Independence. We had attained Independence six decades back and many ideas had been envisaged by various Governments. Governments have come and gone, but they have not done things as envisaged in the Directive Principles or in the Constitution.

Sir, we have a population of about 110 crores in India. Out of these, 40 crores are workers and even among the 40 crores, 37 crores belong to the unorganized sector. More than 38 per cent of our population is living below the poverty line. I wish to highlight that there are suicides, starvation deaths and there is poverty. They talk about removal and alleviation of poverty. But everything exists on paper as concepts without anything being done in reality. That is my first point. Secondly, the poor is becoming poorer while the rich is getting richer. This is the policy that any Government that came to power has been following. Sir, I can cite examples when I say so. Our hon. Minister is a well-informed Minister; he can justify even a weak case as an excellent one. By virtue of his profession, he has the knack for putting things in such a way that even weak cases are made to seem strong. He may try to highlight the Government's achievements citing how they have made progress, how the GDP has increased, how the economy is booming, and so on. Leaving it aside, the fact remains that the rich is becoming richer while the poor is becoming poorer. I would cite an example. The corporate houses such as Reliance and Tata Motors have been under-assessed and they have been exempted from taxes amounting to Rs. 1000 crores. Coming to our players, * and *, they have been exempted from paying taxes to which they are not entitled. I mean to say that the rich and influential people manage to ... (interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I think you cannot take names. It is not fair to use names of individual assesses and say they are paying or not paying taxes. They are not present here and so cannot defend themselves. The matter relates to individuals. ...(Interruptions)... It will not go on record. I am expunging it.

DR. K. MALAISAMY: Sir, coming to the next point, according to the Minister, corporate tax would grow by 17.4 per cent, personal income tax would grow by 14.55 per cent and the collection of total direct taxes would grow by 16.31 per cent. Already five months have gone by after March; we are now at the end of August. They had fixed a target and already half a year has gone by. I would like to ask the hon. Minister specifically -- how far have you succeeded in achieving the target on these three items?

Coming to a very import item, it has been said that the revenue deposit would be reduced from 2 per cent last year to 1.5 per cent this year. This is what they have said. But, Sir, I would like to underline the fact that the Prime Minister's Economic Advisory Council has said that the revenue deficit continues to be high and it is not likely to be eliminated before 2008-09. They have said that the revenue deficit could be done away with once and for all by next year while the Prime

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Minister's Economic Council, which is an expert body manned by none other than Mr. Rangaragan, has said that it would not be possible to do that. I would like to have a specific answer from the hon. Minister on this -- the Economic Advisory Council says that GDP growth can go up to only 9 per cent while the inflation would recede at 4 per cent, whereas our hon. Minister says that they are capable of achieving the target and that they are optimistic about doing that. I appreciate the confidence with which our hon. Minister says that. I would like to ask him whether he is so confident because while fixing the target, the target was under-pitched, or the full potential before fixing the target was not taken into account.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude.

DR. K. MALAISAMY: Coming to the other points, Sir...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There is no time left. Already it is one o'clock.

DR. K. MALAISAMY: Sir, I would take only two minutes. (Interruptions) You have always been considerate with me.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Whether you conclude it or not, I would adjourn the House. (Interruptions) Please be brief. (Followed by 2a/hk)

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