PREVIOUS HOUR

GS-GSP/1S/3.00

֓ (֟) : ֮֯ ָ ֟ , ֯ ֟ ֤ , ...(־֮֬)...

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, it is a matter of public demand. (Interruptions)

ֳ֯ : ֯ כ ...(־֮֬)...

֓ : ֯ ׻֋, ֟ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ׻֋ ֯ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)...

.. ׻ֵ : ִָ֓ ֡ ־ֲ ֲ ֕ ֤ ֋ ...(־֮֬)... ־ֲ ־ֲ פօ ...(־֮֬)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. Let us not start one more debate. (Interruptions) One minute. Please. (Interruptions) You have to listen as they have listened to you. (Interruptions) That is his view. (Interruptions)

.. ׻ֵ : ָ, ֤ ֵԾ ָ ߬ ׸ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ? ...(־֮֬)...

.. ׻ֵ : ִָ֓ ֡ ...(־֮֬)... ִָ֓ ֡ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ׯ׮ֵ֮ ...(־֮֬)...

.. ׻ֵ : ָ, ֟ ֟ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)... ֟ ֟ ו֋...(־֮֬)... yield ֵ ...(־֮֬)... yield ֵ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ֲֻ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Unless and until the veracity is...(Interruptions)...

SHRI N. JOTHI: How long will you take to verify the veracity? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no. This is not allowed. (Interruptions) Nothing will go on record. (Interruptions) Mr. Narayanasamy, ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Narayanasamy, please listen to me. No, no...(Interruptions)... You see, Mr. Suresh Pachouri has yielded. That is why...(Interruptions)...

.. ׻ֵ : ֲ ֕ ߕ ־ֲ פ ! ׾֤ ӡ ֤ ־ֲ פ , ֮֟ ִָ֓ ֡ ! - ָ ֋, פ ָ ֤ ֵ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ׻ֵ , ֮֯ , פօ ...(־֮֬)... word ָ, unless it is unparliamentary, I cannot ask the Minister, don't say this, don't say that. (Interruptions)

...(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֯ ־ֲ ו֋...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ֯ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)...

֓ : ֯ ׻֋ ֯ ׻֋...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ֓ , ֯ ׻֋ ֯ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)... ֓ , ֯ ׻֋ ֯ ֻߙ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ և ֯ և

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ӡ ֮ ֌־

֓ : ָ, ׾ִ֮ϟ֯ ֟־ָ , ֤ ֟־ָ ָ ֳ ִ׮֟ ֤õ ֮-֮ ֟ ֟ ֙ ֟־ָ ִ׮֟ ֤õ ֿ־ӟ ֮ ֻ ׾ֿ׬ָ ״ן ֮ Ͽ ֵ , ӲӬ ֣ ߚ߮ ׬ָ ׬ָ ֟ , ִ ָָ י

֟, ֵ ֵ , ֪ׯ ׾֤ ӡ ֟ , ױ , ֟ 0 ִ ӛָ ָ ָ ߋ ףֵ ָ ֟ ֵ ™ ֋ ™ ֤ ִד֟ ֵ , פ ָָ ׾ָ֓ , ӲӬ , ֤ ־֮֋ , ֮֮ߵ ׾֤ ӡ ֟ օ פ ױ , ߴ Ӳ׬֟ ֟ ֟ , ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ֤ ִ֮ ֛ ֣ ֟ ֮ ׾ֵ ָ ָָ ֓ ֮ ׻֋ ָ ײ֮֕ ևָ ָ ֟ , ֲ ֓ , ز֤ ִֵ ֵ ׻֋ ֕ ֟ , ֤֕ ָ֓ ״֟ ָָ ֵԾ ֮ ӲӬ , ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֮ ־֮֋ ֌ , ־֮ֆ ֮֮ߵ ׾֤ ӡ ֟ օ (ִ֯)

DR. V. MAITREYAN: The whole House is...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No clarifications will be allowed because it has not been taken up under any Rule. I cannot ask the External Affairs Minister, who is not present. He has said that he will inform the External Affairs Minister about the sentiments of the House. The matter should end here. (Interruptions) Now, we shall take up...(Interruptions)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, they are...(Interruptions)...

DR. V. MAITREYAN: Sir, except Mr. Narayanasamy, everyone is...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: No, no. (Interruptions) It is not going to...(Interruptions)...

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, the Minister has just...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: He has said that he will inform...(Interruptions).. That is what he has...(Interruptions)...That matter is over. (Interruptions) Now, we shall take up The Inland Vessels (Amendment) Bill, 2005. Hon. Minister for Shipping, Road Transport and Highways, Shri T.R. Baalu to move the Bill. (Interruptions)

(Followed by TMV-1T)

-GSP-TMV-SCH/1T/3.05

THE INLAND VESSELS (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2005

THE MINISTER OF SHIPPING, ROAD TRASNPORT AND HIGHWAYS (SHRI T. R. BAALU): With your permission, I beg to move:

That the Inland Vessels (Amendment) Bill, 2005 further to amend

the Inland Vessels Act, 1917, be taken into consideration.

...(Interruptions)....

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: He has stated that he will inform the Foreign Minister about the sentiments of the House. (Interruptions)....

SHRI T. R. BAALU: The Inland Vessels Act, 1917 (1 of 1917), is an Act consolidating the enactments relating to inland vessels. It is a comprehensive Central legislation with all aspects concerned therewith, namely, inland water limits, registration, survey, certificate of competency, licensing of masters and crew, investigation into casualties, protection and carriage of passengers, insurance against third party, etc.

(Interruptions).... The State Governments are vested with executive powers under the Act. ...(Interruptions)....

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: He has stated that he will inform the Foreign Minister. (Interruptions)... That is what he has said. (Interruptions)... That matter is over. (Interruptions)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ֤ߵ ֵ ӡ ֵ֮ ײֻ ӟ™ ....(־֮֬) ָ, ֵ֮ ײֻ ӟ™ , ׻֋ ֈ ..(־֮֬) ָָ ...(־֮֬)

(At this stage some hon. Members left the Chamber.)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record except the Minister. (Interruptions)....

SHRI T. R. BAALU: The Inland Vessels Act, 1917 (1 of 1917), was last amended in the year 1977 and since then several major developments have taken place in the inland water transport sector.

.....(Interruptions)....

Some of the important developments are declaration of the three National Waterways and constitution of the Inland Waterways Authority of India. The three National Waterways that were declared are

(i). Allahabad-Haldia stretch (1,620 kms) of the Ganga-

Bhagirathi-Hooghly river system in 1982;

(ii). Sadiya-Dhubri stretch (891 kms) of the Brahmaputra river in 1988; and

(iii). Kottapuram-Kollam stretch of the West Coast Canal
along with Champakara Canal and Udyogamandal Canal
(205 kms) in 1992.

...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record except the Minister. (Interruptions)...

SHRI T. R. BAALU: Three more waterways are under consideration of being declared as National Waterways. There are some other waterways being developed by the State Governments. (Interruptions)....

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. (Interruptions)... Please sit down. (Interruptions)...

SHRI T. R. BAALU: The Inland Waterways Authority of India is constituted for development, maintenance and regulation of the National Waterways for shipping and navigation. (Interruptions)...

 

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record except the Minister. (Interruptions)...

SHRI T. R. BAALU: The Government, having recognised the need to actively promote the inland water transport sector so that it has a reasonable share in the inter-modal mix of transport, is giving the much needed thrust to revive this neglected mode of transport. With the likely increase in inland water transport system in the country, a review of the existing statutory provisions relating to inland vessels was considered necessary.

A Committee under the Chairmanship of the Joint Secretary (Transport) was set up in August 1991 for the purpose. The Committee comprised members representing, among others, concerned State Governments, namely West Bengal, Kerala, Bihar, etc.

DR. V. MAITREYAN: We can't accept this. We are walking out. (Interruptions)...

(At this stage some hon. Members left the Chamber.)

SHRI T. R. BAALU: In all, 218 amendments to the Inland Vessels Act, 1917, were recommended by the Committee with a view to updating it having regard to the present day operational developments.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: We are also walking out. (Interruptions)...

(At this stage some hon. Members left the Chamber.)

SHRI T. R. BAALU: The recommendations of the 1992 Committee were reviewed by a Group constituted in 2002 with the IWAI and representatives of the State Governments of Kerala, West Bengal and Goa. The Group suggested deletion of 36 amendments proposed by the 1992 Committee and recommended 92 amendments. These were further reviewed by the Ministry and the primary 68 amendments in 14 categories are covered in the present Bill.

The Inland Vessels (Amendment) Bill, 2005, to amend the Inland Vessels Act, 1917, was introduced in the Rajya Sabha on 8th December 2005. The Bill was referred to the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Transport, Tourism and Culture by the Hon'ble Chairman of the Rajya Sabha for examination and report.

The Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee submitted its Report as the 100th Report on the Inland Vessels (Amendment) Bill, 2005, in which it has recommended certain amendments to the Bill. The Department has considered the recommendations of the Parliamentary Standing Committee and agrees with the recommendation with regard to increasing the period of validity of temporary permit as per clause 5 of the Bill which is proposed to be increased form 30 days to 45 days. As regards other recommendations of the Parliamentary Standing Committee, the Department of Shipping feels that these recommendations are not acceptable at present.

The salient features of the proposed amendments in the Bill are:-

Extension of inland water limits to include smooth and partially smooth waters and waters up to maximum significant wave height of 2 metres. This will result in extensive use of inland waters by inland vessels which otherwise are not permitted to go beyond prescribed limits.

Inclusion of dumb barges to be towed by the mechanically propelled vessels in the definition of mechanically propelled vessels, which are currently outside the ambit of the Inland Vessels Act, 1917.

Dividing the inland water area into three zones based on maximum significant wave height criteria through notification by the respective State Governments to facilitate safety of vessels by providing suitable construction and manning norms based on operating conditions and also to provide for flexibility of classification of inland waters into different zones.

Extending the validity of certification of registration, competency or licence or crew of inland vessels issued by one State Government to other States in order to provide relief to the vessel owners and crew and issuance of temporary permit by the surveyor pending the issue of the certificate survey in the interest of overall development of inland water transport sector.

Liberalising the criteria of transfer of certificate of registration to

avoid hassles to the owners carrying out inter-State operation.

(Contd. By VK/1U)

-TMV/VK-PSV/1U/3.10

SHRI T.R. BAALU (CONTD): Making provision for induction of suitable trained manpower of the Army, the Navy and the Coast Guard into inland water transport fold to address the problem of shortage of manpower in the inland water transport sector.

Amendment of Section 54C so as to make Section 134 and Chapters X, XI and XII of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988, applicable in relation to mechanically propelled vessels with certain modifications and also to provide insurance of vessels against third party risks, compensations for accidents and Claims Tribunal, etc.

Empowering the State Governments for prescribing the requirements of (i) hull, equipment, machinery in respect of inland mechanically propelled vessels; (ii) life saving appliances and (iii) apparatus required for communication and navigation in the interest of enhanced safety.

Providing for prohibition of discharge oil, oily mixture, hazardous chemical or obnoxious chemical at inland port, power of entry and inspection and power to the Central Government for making rules for prevention and control of pollution, punishment for contravention of the provisions of this Chapter and rules made thereunder.

This august House will appreciate that the amendments proposed in the Bill are required and the need of the hour is for smooth operation of inland vessels in the context of overall development of the inland water transport sector, which I hope will be accepted by this august House.

The question was proposed.

(Ends)

00 ׻ֵ (ָӛ): ֳ֯ן , ӟ֤ߵ ֵֻ֮ (ӿ֮) ׾֬, 2005 ִ֣Ԯ ׻֋ ֛

, ָ פ ֮ ֟ פ ֟ פ , ׿ִ , ָ , ָ פ ֟ 'ֻ ߾֮ ' ֮ ֟ ָ ן ֿ߾Ԥ ָ ߲ ֜ 14 ָ ߙ ӓָ ֻ֮ ־ã ן-Ϥ , וִ ֻ և ְ ָ ֮ ֵֻ , ߲ 5 ָ 7 ߙ

, ָ ֛ , ָ ־ , ָ և ֕ ־ã ָ ָ ָ ׻֋, ָ ֮ Ù ֮֮ ׻֋ , ֻ ײ֮֔ ׻֋ 4 և


(ֳ֬(0 00׸֮) ߚ߮ )

֮֮ ׻֋ ו֮֟ ֓ , ָ Ù ֱ 5 10 ןֿ֟ ֻ ֙ ֵ ֋, ֵ֤ և ֮ ִ ֱ ִ , ָ ִ ׸ֻ ֟ ,

, ײֻ ֮ 10th ִֻ֯ ֮ , ֲ 2001 ֻ ֙ ï ׻ ָ , עֱ ֌ 000 ָָ ߅ (1w/000 ָ ֿ:)

1W/HMS-RG/3.15

00 ׻ֵ (֟) : ֲ ֻ ֙ ֯ ׻ ָ ֌, ו֮ ֻ֮ ֙ Ù ӓ ֻ֮ ֙ ߓ ֮ , ָ- ִ ָֻ֓ ָ ֤, ֛߮ ִָ ֻ ә ׾֤ ־ָ ӛ ׸ָ, Ù-Ù ֻ ә ׾֤ ִ֮ ׸ָ ֮֙ ֻ֮ ֙ 3, ָ ִ ֻ Ӥ֮ ׸ָ Ù օ

ֻ ֻ ֱ ֮ ֲ þ֬߮ օ 1917 1977 ӿ֮ ֵ օ ֌ important ֙, ֻ֮ ֙ כꆸ ֤ ׻ Ù ߸ ֻ ׸ָ , ָ ןֵ ָ Ù ɯ ׸ָ ָ ִ ֯ Ù Ù Ù ֻ ӛ ָ֯ ӛ ӛ ֻ օ ֵ օ ֣-֣ ֮ ֻ ֙ ׸ ׻֋ ؙ ׸ ֮֮ ֮ ߅ , ָ ִ֮ ֕ ײֻ , ܵ֟: , "compatibility of insurance for mechanically propelled vessels against third party risks in line with provisions of Motor Vehicles Act of 1988 and Prevention and Control of Pollution in inland waters." ָ Ùߴָ , ו֮ և , , և ֵָ , 같 ֵ ֻ֟ , , ֜, ֻ և , ָ ֻ ָ ָ , ָ ־ã ־֮֬ ־ ִ ֮֟ ߕ ֮ ӿ֮ և ׻֋ և , Ù ׸ ״֟ , ֲ ֻ ֙ Ù ׻֋ - ־ã ֮-֮ ־ã ߅

, ֮ ן ֺ ֛ ָ ֮ Ùߴ և ֟ ׸ ָ ָ ָ ֮ ׻֋ Ӿ ָ Ӿ ֻ և ׻֋ ϵ ֟ "ײֻ" ֻ ָ כÓ֕ ֤ ֻ ֙ כÓ֕ ָ ֻ Ϥ֟ օ ֺ ׮ִֵ ֵ֮ ֵ ָ ֻ ו ָ ֮ ׮֙ ֮ ֛, ָ ֕ և ָ ֻ ֮ ׮֙ -֋ ֟ ו ֮ ֻ Ϥ֟

(1 /֕ ָ ֿ:)

1X/KLG-KS/3.20

. . ׻ֵ) : ֻ Ϥ֟

, ָ ִ ֮ , ә ֵ ָ ִ ׸ָ ׸ Û , ׸ , 㮤֮ ߕ֮ ֟ , ֣-֣ ֟ ֋, ־֛ ָ ֟ ֮ ׻֋ ߮ ײΕ , ־֕ ֻ֟ Ӳև כ ־ Ӳև ֮ ׻֋ ֛ ָ ֻ, Ù ֙ ֮֯ љ߮憴, ֛ ָ ֻ ״ֻ֟ , ֮ ֮ , Ӿ ֣ Ӿ , ֣ ָ ֮ ױ פ , , ֻ ִ֬ ֻ ֙ ֻ ֮ ׿ֿ ֻ և ֓֟ Ù ֓֟

, ד ׸ ־ ֵ օ ד ׸ ־ ֵ ִ ֵ ֵ ָ ֻ ֙ Ù ֋, ֤ ִ֬ ֮ Ù֮ ָ ן , ֵ֕ ֋ ֮ ֛ ֋

, ָ , ׿ִ ֻ , , , ֮ --, ֲֻ֟ ָ ֮ , ײΕ ֻ֟, כ ָ ֜ ֟ ָ ֟ וִ ֱ ֮ , ָ ֤ և ֟ , Ӳ ß ֛ , ָ ִ֬ ֵ, ֻ ֟ ָ ׸ ֻܵ , ֯ , ֯ , ָ ։- ׸ ׻֋ ָ ִֵ ֻޛ ֙ Ù ִ֬ ֕ ִ , ޛ, ָ, ֲ֕Ծ Ù , ֻޛ ֙ Ù, ..(־֮֬)

SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK: Ahluwaliaji, you are entering into my territory. (Interruptions)

SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA: I am speaking for everybody. Don't think I am speaking only for myself. I am speaking for everybody because where I live, there is no river. So, when I speak, I speak for the Muslim League also, I speak for you also. Why are you worried? I am pleading everybody's case. Now, I will come to Kashmir also. I started from the Barrak Valley and I will now come to the Kashmir Valley. When we talk of houseboats, although these started in Kashmir, but we remember Kerala because for quite a long time the houseboats in Kashmir had been non-functional.

(Contd. by 1y/tdb)

TDB-AKA/1Y/3.25

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA (CONTD.): That is why we have forgotten about the Shikara. Those who could not go, like me, to Kashmir to see this but they might have seen it in different pictures and documentary films how they use the inland water as their lifeline, how the rural Kashmiri people earn their bread and butter, how they bring flowers and other vegetables from different unapproachable areas to the cities through the inland water system. So, the same thing is in Kerala and same thing is in Northeast or the Eastern part of the country. inland water system ָ develop , ׻֋ ֲ ֛ ֺ ו ױוֻ̲ ևײ֙ , ֮ ֵ֮ , ָ ׾֮֫ ӡ 0ָ0 ֻ ؕ ָ֮ ӡ ָ ؕ , rivers ؕ , ֻ ؕ ֜ ׾ֵ ֟ ָ ֲ ֤ ֻ , ֻ V , ֲֻ ִ֮ ֟ ֟ , V A ֮ ֟ ֲ A ֮ ֟ ߓ ֮ ָ ָ ײָ ֟ Water keeps its level. Wherever it gets slope, it goes there. So, it does not wait whether it is T.R. Baalu's house or Prasanta Chatterjee's house or Shantaram Naik's house. It does not wait. It will flow in that way. inland water ָ ִ ֻ֮ ֲ ֺ rivers inland water system , ֻ ؕ ؕ ֱ vessels օ ֯ ָ ָߵ ָָ ֲ ֮ דָ֡ ֮֋ ד֡ ָ דָ֡ ד֡ ֵ֮ - , ֔ , ֤ , ׾ ָ ? ֻ ֻ ? ֻ ֤ ֻ ׮ֻ ֻ ֻ ׮ֻ ָ ֲ ָ ֵ ֋ ִ֟ ׸ ֛ ٙև̸ ָ֮ ֱ כ , ֺ ֛, ״ ֛ ֺ ֛߅ The best organic fertiliser is the silt of rivers ָ ֲ ֜ ֟ ֻ ָ ֟ ֻ ֲ ָ ֟ ָ ֟ ׻֋ ֜ ֤ ֻ , ֲ ל , ָ ֮ ֲ ֟ , ֱ ֻ֮ , פ֟ , ֟ , ׻ ֮ ׸ָ ָ ֲָ , ֟ ֟ ׻֋ ִ֟ ֲ ؕ ָ ָ ֲ ָ ָ ֋ ߓ Ӿ ֋ ֲ ؕ ֤ ֲֻ ׮ֻ ߓ ֺ ָ ߓ Ӿ ֋, ־֮ ָ , ֆָև  ֛ , ָ , ָ ״ֻ֟ , ֻ ׻֋ ִ ײ֮֔ ִ ָ ״ֻօ ֲ ִ ֮ ֋, Ӿ ִ ֮ ֋ ֮֯ ָ Ӿ ߕ , perishable goods , ߴ֟ ״ֻ , ֲ ֮֯ ָ ϵ ִ

('1z/nb' ָ ָ)

-AKA-NB/KGG/1Z/3.30

.. ׻ֵ (֟) : ׻֋ ֺ dredging ֋ ֯ ֛ ׮ֻ֟ , ֛ ïߛߙ ֮ 250 ߙ ïߛ ָ ֻ, ָ ïߛߙ ֮֮ ֛ ã ֋, 250 ߙ ïߛ ָ ֛ ֻև ֌ ӯ - ֵ ֻ֮ ֻ ֤ ևԅ ֲ ֯ vessel ֋, ֲ ֯ ָ ߕ ֋, ֵ ߕ ֋, ֋ և ֋, ֵ Ù ֋, ֻ֮ canal Ӥ , inland water Ӥ ֻ֮ , ָ ֱև , ֻ օ ׻֋ river cleaning, dredging and navigation training ׻֋ ־֮֬ ֛, ֯ navigation training ׻֋, dredging training ׻֋ river training ׻֋ Ùߙ ꮮև ֮ ָ ֮ , כ Ù כ Ù כ خ ד֟ ָ ֮֮ , 4 Ùߙ ֮և, ָ ֮ IIT خ ֯ manpower ָ ֯ ֲ vessel ֋, ֲ ֵ ׻ ֲ , ֋ ֮ ֲ ֋ vessel ֋, ֻ֮ ׻֋, -־ ׻֋ navigation ׻֋ ֯ skilled ֣ ֺ ֛ ׻֋ manpower planning ֺ , ִ

ֳ֬ , ֕ ָ ֻ և total potential , ߲ 1,000 billion tonnes per kilometre , ָ ֕ ָ ָ ִ 1.5 billion tonnes per kilometre ֲ potential achieve ׻֋ ו infrastructure ֺ , built-up , infrastructure ָ ׻֋ ӡ ָ ߕ ָ ִ֮ ֋? pollution ׻֋ , ׻֋ rules ֮֮ 9 ָ, 2001 Inland Water Transport Policy ֲ declare , ֌ ֛ details ֮և և - ֻ߅ ֕ ֯ ֮ ӿ֮ ׻֋ ײֻ ֋ , ׻֋ ֯ ֤֬ ֯ , ִ pollution ִֻ ־ã ֮ pollute , ֯ ֕ , ײֻ Ӥ ־֮֬ ֲ ֯ fine , ֤ ߻ ־֮֬ ֮ ֺ , ָ ߻ , ֯ Ù ֯ ־ָ ׾ו̙ ׾ו̙ ָ ֲָ , - "Surveyor shall inspect inland ports, cargo or passenger terminals. If they find in the report that the terminal has not complied with all the required pollution measures, the notice shall be issued. No owner or operator who has been issued such notice shall be allowed work on his port or terminal unless the surveyor certifies that his port or terminal is provided with the necessary equipment in accordance with rules."

֮ -ׯ֕ʹ ִ ָ ïꌙ ֕ ִׯ , ָ ֯ ָ־ע ֟ ׸ ָ ߻ Ӥß , ו ã ߻ ָ ־ָ clearance certificate , ֋? vessel ֻ , ֻ ֻ , ָ ֋ ? ֻ, ֟ , ֮֯ ָ֮ , ָ ֻ ֟ iron-ore ֟ ֻ ֟ , ֕ ֟ , ָ ִ ֋օ ִ ֯ ־֮֬ ? ִ time limit ֮ פ Ӥ ־ָ ٙױ , ־֮֬ ִ , ׾֬ ִ֣Ԯ ֮֯ ײֻ ָ ֮ ׻֋ ֌ פ, ׻֋ ֯ ֮־֤ (ִ֯) 2A/KLS ָ

KLS/2AE-3.35/VNK

SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK (GOA): Sir, I stand here to support the present Bill moved by the hon. Minister. Sir, inland waterways throughout the country are very beautiful just like our rivers, our coastal lines, etc. I remember a song from a film many years back which says and I quote:

" ֻ ״ֻ ֤ ֻ ,

֤ ״ֻ ָ

ָ ״ֻ ֻ ,

֮ օ"

 

Although we know that a river meets the sea but where the sea goes we do not know. Nevertheless these rivers of ours, inland waterways are to be maintained. I am happy that Ahluwaliaji has very good knowledge about Goa. He is not there. ...(Interruptions)... I will tell you secretly. He has good knowledge about Goa because ...(Interruptions)...

No, no, I will tell you secretly. ...(Interruptions)...

THE MINISTER OF PANCHAYATI RAJ, MINISTER OF YOUTH AFFAIRS & SPORTS AND MINISTER OF DEVELOPMENT OF NORTH EASTERN REGION (SHRI MANI SHANKAR AIYAR): Excuse me, Sir. I want to bring to the Chair's attention that it is completely against the practices of the House for an hon. Member to speak and then get out before one more person has spoken...(Interruptions)... It is a complete violation of the etiquettes that have been circulated. I wish you would please reprimand the gentleman. ...(Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, no, please. ...(Interruptions)... Since it is raised, hon. Member Shri Ahluwalia...(Interruptions)... No, please. ...(Interruptions)... Shri Ahluwalia has informed me and told me that he is going to attend the Privileges Committee meeting. For that he has gone, and he has gone with my permission, and, in fact, he has done it correctly and I thank him and congratulate him for doing like this. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, what Mani Shankar Aiyarji has said...(Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: He knows that you are going for the Privileges Committee meeting. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI MANI SHANKAR AIYAR: How has he come to know? ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: I heard you, Sir. ...(Interruptions)... Your voice was loud and clear. ...(Interruptions)... I heard you inside and that is why I came back.... (Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: I have explained the position. ...(Interruptions)... Since his name has been taken, let him speak. ...(Interruptions)... He can reply since his name has been mentioned.

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, the point was...(Interruptions)... Sir, before it was started respected and hon. Deputy Chairman was in the Chair. I asked that 3.30 p.m. Privileges Committee meeting is there and you are going to preside over that meeting and I am a Member of that Committee I have to be present in that meeting. Because it is a small Committee, if I do not go, there may not be quorum and they may not be able to take any decision. He said, 'No, no, you finish your speech and then come." Then I requested the present Vice-Chairman, "Can I go?" He said, "Yes, you can go." That is why I left. I know when Shantaramji is speaking who is a good friend of mine, I cannot run away from the House. ...(Interruptions)... But the moment he raised the issue, I came back.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Mani Shankar did not know it. That is why he mentioned it. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: If you permit I can go now. ...(Interruptions)... THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Please, you can go. ...(Interruptions)... Why are you standing and disturbing? ...(Interruptions)...

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SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK: Sir, I am happy that Ahluwaliaji has good knowledge of Goa because he was my party observer some years back and he used to be there for about a month permanently in Goa and, therefore, he has got good knowledge about it. (Contd by 2B/sss)

SSS/2B/3.40

SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK (CONTD.): I am from Congress. He was my party observer. Barges are the lifeline of the port of Marmagoa and Panaji. For decades together, these barges take iron ore from the port to the main port, Marmagoa. This transport has been going on for decades together. Therefore, you can understand the relevance of this inland transport when they can take iron ore for decades together to feed a major port in Goa. On that basis you can understand the relevance of this transport. The question is that as far as this Bill is concerned I would like to make an observation in the beginning that when we conceive of an amendment Bill, on an average -- it is unfortunate -- it takes about two years till the time the Bill gets introduced in either of the Houses. This is a very sad state of affairs. I am not saying this with respect to this Ministry. This is with respect to all ministries, that whenever you conceive of an amendment it takes practically two years to get a Bill to be introduced. This system has to be done away with because thereafter to get it effectively implemented it takes another two years. This present Bill is also of the same stature. It was conceived many years back and it has come today. Fortunately, it has come, so you have to welcome it. Secondly, Sir, as far as transport is concerned, whenever the barge owners in Goa are charged sometimes because of environmental pollution etc. they have contended very effectively that all barges operating in Goa are double-skinned vessels and independent square tanks are placed in their engine rooms at a safe distance from the side shelf. There has been no damage to marine environment caused by barge. One incident, which has taken place in 2005 of oil spilt subsequent to a collision, was due to a fuel tank being integrated to the side shelf of the foreign ship going. The barge was a new barge built and maintained under class and conforming to load lines requirements. Therefore, Sir, they have been taking immense care as far as operation is concerned. There is also a mechanism in place by which if the weather turns bad banias are warned by way of signals put up by both the ports and the crew do not venture into the sea if the weather turns foul. Vessels, which are at outer anchorage also come ashore in some adverse, weather conditions. Therefore, they are responsibly operating as far as this inland transport is concerned to carry goods to their destination. Despite this, the DG (Shipping) for the last many years have been harassing the barge owners not realising the relevance, the relevance of the goods that they carry to the port, relevance of the export value of these goods and they are time and again being harassed by the Director of Shipping. I would earnestly appeal to the Minister that when this Bill comes, again there is a scope of such harassment. I would give one example. Mr. Ahluwalia touched that point. If an inspector enters the vessel barge and he finds some deficiency he can issue a show cause notice. Fine, but I have never heard that when a show cause notice is issued, operations are stayed. In this Bill, there is a provision which says that the moment a show cause notice is given the entire operation has to be stayed. That means, barge cannot operate despite the fact that no stay has been granted, no restrictions are put. On mere issuing a show cause notice, operations are stayed! This provision is totally bad, unheard of and bringing the Inspector Raj back. I agree on this point. (Contd. by 2C)

-SSS/NBR-SC/2C/3.45.

SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK (CONTD.): Therefore, kindly examine this specific provision which gives this power.

Secondly, Sir, as far as transportation by inland waterways is concerned, I would say that a number of possibilities do exist in terms of navigatable waterways. This is a Paper submitted on the subject. But the ones that offer some potential are the riverains, inlets along the coast, especially the ones near the ports. Some of the canal systems are a part of a larger waterways development project. A further possibility can considerably open up as and when the Inter-linking of Rivers project in the country is found viable. This last possibility is doubtful at the moment. But this is an expert Paper submitted in this connection.

Thirdly, the most important thing is, today's inland waterways, maybe in Goa, Kerala or anywhere, has the potential for tourism. They are very beautiful. If you see any inland waterway, it is very beautiful. Therefore, the Ministry of Shipping, Road Transport and Highways and the Ministry of Tourism have to enter into an MoU for the purpose of development of inland waterways, both as a means of transport and to boost the tourism. Unless both the Ministries cooperate and enter into a MoU this may not be possible, because a lot of expenditure is involved for the purpose of doing this. In Goa, you must know, inland waterways not only used for transportation but also have the tourism potential. There are ferry services from one bank to the other. When we did not have bridges over our rivers, ferry service used to transport people. There are beautiful ferry services in which four or six cars can go at a time. When they go from one end to the other, it takes ten minutes. In those ten minutes journey, people can see the sceneries of Goa and people do opt to go by ferry rather than by other modes of transport. In Indian and other local films also you find shots of ferry service being commonly taken, because it is a good attraction. Therefore, this kind of ferry service should be operated in other parts of the country where inland waterways are available.

The main question arises is about the river dredging. Unless dredging is done on regular basis, no inland waterways can survive. So, this has to be done from time to time. But, at the same time, the cost factor is also looked into which is very essential. Therefore, as I said, an MoU has to be entered into by the Shipping Ministry with the Tourism Ministry. If I am not mistaken, to dredge a river, it costs between Rs. 10 crores and Rs. 11 crores per km. This is one of the figures. I do not know whether it is correct. So, to dredge a river you require between Rs. 10 crores and Rs. 11 crores per km. Therefore, considering the commercial viability of a particular inland waterway, these things have to be done. In this sector, according to my information, in the Ninth and Tenth Plans considerable amount of funds were made available and those funds were not utilised. I would like to know from the hon. Minister whether it is a fact. And, secondly, whether our National Maritime Policy has been prepared? I would like to know whether it is in the draft stage or whether the Cabinet has approved the National Maritime Policy. If the National Maritime Policy has been approved, the inland waterways development system is a part of that National Maritime Policy and if it is so, what it is. I would also like to know what are the essential features of this Policy.

I would like to take the hon. Minister to Clause 54(e) of the Bill which deals with prohibition as to discharge of oil, oily mixture, etc., in the inland water. It says, "No oil or oily mixture, hazardous chemical or obnoxious substance from a mechanically propelled vessel shall be discharged in inland water." This is fine. This has to be there. But the question, again, is, in these cases also if you don't regulate the powers of those who are entrusted with inspection of these areas or inspection of barges or the vessels, then, there is a likelihood of misuse of powers.

(CONTD. BY VP "2D")


-NBR-USY/MCM/2D/3.50

SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK (CONTD.): Because this is a fine and delicate subject. In fact, oil spillage is there. Big ships come on the coastline. They dump oil far away and the coasts of Goa and other places get spoiled with black balls throughout the coastline, spoiling the beauty of coastline. Therefore, this hazard of spilling oil by the big vessels off the coastline is very much there. But as far as these bodies and small vessels are concerned, this aspect has not been dealt with. We have to be cautions and have to rightly take care of it.

Then, comes the question of 54(g), as I pointed out. Section 54(g) refers to the very thing that I said earlier. If an inspector makes an inspection and issues notices, whether that notice will operate as a stay or not, this aspect has to be examined by the hon. Minister.

Lastly, I would like to state that inland waterways are concerned; they are useful means of transport. And, a separate perfect policy has to be enacted as far as development of inland waterways is concerned because the road transport is getting congested. Baluji knows his problems, as far as development of highways are concerned. He knows the congestion that takes place on highways, etc. This is one of the cheapest modes of transports available. Therefore, there is a need to develop this transport system in future. (Ends)

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GS-VP/2E/3.55

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