PREVIOUS HOUR

KLS/MP/1W-2.00

The House reassembled at two minutes

past two of the clock,

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair.

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MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Legislative Business. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: He should withdraw his allegation. ...(Interruptions)...

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ߸ ָ ֻ֋? ...(־֮֬)... ߸ ָ ֻ֋? ...(־֮֬)....

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ־ֻ ߸ ָ ....(־֮֬)... ָ, ָ ....(־֮֬)...

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: He has to withdraw his allegation first. ...(Interruptions)...He cannot be allowed to speak. ...(Interruptions)... He cannot make an allegation like this. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Let your Leader speak. ...(Interruptions)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ־ָ ....(־֮֬).... ״֮֙.... ָ, ־ָ ׾ֵ ן֯ ֮ ־ָ י פ, ïן־ָ י פ, ָ ֵ ֯ ꅠ ָ ָ֢֬ - ָ .....(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֈ - , ֯ witness ....(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, և ֕ ָ և  ײ֮֕ , ֲ ߸ ָ , ֲ ָ ? ...(־֮֬)...

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: They are wasting the time of the House. ...(Interruptions)... The allegation should be withdrawn.

ֳ֯ן : , , ߸ ָ ....(־֮֬)....

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: Zero Hour does not mean free for all and make any allegation against the Prime Minister or any Minister. ...(Interruptions)...

ߴ֟ ֵ : ָ, ֮ ! ....(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ָ և ֕ և  ײ֮֕ , ֲ ֢ օ

ֳ֯ן : ֵօ ֕ ׻֋, ֕ ߸ ָ disturbance , ? ߸ ָ ߮ ? ...(־֮֬)....

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ־ֻ ߸ ָ ֯ ׾ֵ ן֯ ֮ ...(־֮֬)...

ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ : ָ, ߸ ָ ִֵ ?

ֳ֯ן : ....(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ֟ ײ֮ ֮֯ ׻ֵօ ָ, ֟ ו֋, ֤ ֯ ֋Ӆ ־ֻ ߸ ָ , ־ֻ ן֯ ֮ ן֯ ֯ ׾ֵ ֮

ֳ֯ן : ߸ ָ י օ ...(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ָ և ֕ ߸ ָ ? ...(־֮֬)... ָ և ֕ ߸ ָ ? ...(־֮֬)....ָ, ֲ ָ֢֬ .....(־֮֬).... ֲ ָ֢֬ ִ , ֲ ....(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ָ֢֬ ֯ , ....(־֮֬)... ״֮֙....(־֮֬)....

֤ߵ ֵ ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ֓) : ֳ֯ן , ֯ ן ֮ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֮ ߸ ָ ֋ ? ...(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ־ֻ ߸ ָ ֮ , ֯ ....(־֮֬)....

. . ֮ : ָ, ן֯ ֮ פ ֋ ....(־֮֬)....

ֳ֯ן : , , ֯ ך ֮ , ֯ ך ....(־֮֬)... ֯ ։, ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)....

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ֯ ֟ ־ֲ ֯ ߸ ָ ֋? ָ ߸ ָ և ֕ .....(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ָ כ, ֕ ׻֋ ....(־֮֬)...

֓ : ֳ֯ן , Ͽ ֟ ߸ ָ ֮ פ ֋ ֮ פ ֋ Ͽ ֟ , proceedings ֣ ... (CONTD BY 1X/SSS)

-KLS-MP/SC-SSS/2.05/1X

SHRI SURESH PACHOURI (CONTD.): "...that those who oppose this agreement are, I am sorry to use the word, are * (Interruptions) Sir, this is the copy of the proceedings. (Interruptions)

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֜ ? ..(־֮֬)..

֓ : ֮ ..(־֮֬).. ֮ ֮ י פ?..(־֮֬).. ָ י פ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ և .(־֮֬).. ֮֓ ָ ? ..(־֮֬).. ֯ ..(־֮֬).. ֯ և ֯ և ..(־֮֬)..߸ ָ ? ..(־֮֬)..֯ և ..(־֮֬)..

֓ : ..(־֮֬)..ָ ͅ..(־֮֬).. ׾֯ օ..(־֮֬)..

0 . ֮ : ָ Ϭִ֮ӡ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ և..(־֮֬)..

֓ : ߸ ָ ? ׾֯ օ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ߸ ָ ? ..(־֮֬)..֯ և ..(־֮֬).. ׻ֵ ..(־֮֬).. ֯ և.(־֮֬)..

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* Expunged as ordered by the Chair.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: Sir, he has to withdraw the allegation. (Interruptions)

֓ : This is the copy of the proceedings. ؛ ֮ ֤ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : , ֯ և ꅾ־֮֬)..֯ ִ ֟ ו֋..(־֮֬).. ֯ և..(־֮֬)..

֓ : ֯ ؛ ו֋..(־֮֬).. ָ, ֯ ػ ..(־֮֬).. ָ ֯ע֮֕ ֤ ֵԾ ׾ֻׯ֟ ֋ ֲ ־ã , ־ã ֋, ֯ ֣Ԯ ..(־֮֬)..

0 . ֮ : Ϭִ֮ӡ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

׾ ִ : ָ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ך ..(־֮֬)..֯ ך ߕ̅

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, I also want to speak afterwards.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Jothi, everybody wants to speak. Please sit down. (Interruptions)

SHRI N. JOTHI: Government is not ready...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record. When I am on my legs you cannot speak. ־ֻ ߸ ָ י פ ֟ ֟Բ ߸ ָ י פ ֮ opportunity ֵ ֈ כ֙ ֵօ ֤ ߸ ָ ߮ , օ ָ ևә ֈ ו֋ օ ߛ ו֮̿ ߸ ָ ֵ ֵ , ֮ פ ֵ, כ֙ օ ֈ ߮ ֟Բ ֮ օ ־֕ opportunity ֟ , Thursday ֻ ..(־֮֬).. ֯ ־ֻ ֕ ֲ ߸ ָ ֟ , ߛ ֯ו֮̿ ֮ ֟ ꌿֻ֮ ߕ ֵ ևә ֈ ֵ ևә ևә ֈ ֵօ

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ֯ ꌿֻ֮ ֟ , - ꌿֻ֮

ֳ֯ן : , ꌿ֮ ֵօ ..(־֮֬).. ֯ ך ..(־֮֬).. ֌ ־ֻ ևә ָ ֵ֟ ֵ ִ ևә It is not listed business. ֕ ־ֻ now, the hon. Parliamentary Affairs Minister said that some objectionable words were used by the Leader of the Opposition and that has to be substantiated and if it is not substantiated, it is an allegation. Now, the Chair has to examine whether it is an allegation or not. If it is an allegation, Rule 238 (a) and the ruling has to be observed. (Contd. by NBR/1Y)

-SSS/NBR-MCM/1Y/2.10.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN (CONTD.): So, this is what I am placing before the House. First of all, the Chair has to decide what has been said by the Leader of the Opposition is an allegation. If it is an allegation...

ֵָ ָ : ן֯ ׬ָ ........(־֮֬)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: ...then, Rule 238(a) and the Rulings 151 and 158 have to be observed, because that is the rule. Now, the question is, we have to examine, what the Leader of the Opposition has said forms an allegation.

SHRI SURESH PACHAURI: It is a part of the proceedings.

ָ֮ ״ : ָ, ֯ ָ ֟ ׮֋ ֯ ֣ פ֋, ֣ פ֮ ֟ ......(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ֣ פ ָ֮ ״ , ײ֚֮ ׻֋ פ֮ ֛ ֯ ֮ ׮ֵָ ָ ֮֯ ꌿ֮ ׻ֵ ֣ Ӭ ֯......(־֮֬)

ָ֮ ״ : ֮, ֮ ֵ, ֯ ׸և ֛ ן֯ ֯ ߮ ֕֟ ......(־֮֬)

DR. V. MAITREYAN: No question on Zero Hour...(Interruptions)...

ֳ֯ן : ָ ֈ כև , if it is the sense of the House that it should be decided...(Interruptions)... ߱ ֈ ־ֻ ָ ן֯ ֟ ָ ֈ כև , ָ և ֛օ......(־֮֬) No, no. Let it be examined whether it constitutes an allegation or not. The House is adjourned for fifteen minutes.

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The House then adjourned at twelve minutes past two of the clock

 

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USY/VP/1Z-2A/2.25-2.30

The House reassembled at twenty-six minutes

past two of the clock, MR. CHAIRMAN in the Chair.

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ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ן֯ ־և ...(־֮֬)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: We have examined...(Interruptions)

00 ׻ֵ : ״֮ ? ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ״֮ , ...(־֮֬)...

00 ׻ֵ : ָ, ֮֯ ״֮ ? ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ׻ֵ , ֯ ߕ 꿓֮ ֟ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ 꿓֮ ֟ ׸ ...(־֮֬)... There was an allegation. Before adjourning the House, I had said that whether the statement made by the Leader of the Opposition contained those words which led to certain allegation. That was to be examined (Interruptions) That has been examined. (Interruptions)

00 ׻ֵ : ָ, ֮ ؛ ֯ פ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)... Have you shown the copy of the proceedings to him? (Interruptions) No; no. (Interruptions) Have you shown it to him (Interruptions)

0 ִ ӛָ : ָ, ...(־֮֬)... ֳ֯ן , ָ 꿓֮ ...(־֮֬)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ahluwalia, when I adjourned the House... (Interruptions)... I said that that has to be examined. (Interruptions) We have examined it. (Interruptions) Do you want me to speak? (Interruptions)

00 ׻ֵ : ָ, ֯ ؛ ֯ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֺ ؛ ֯ ֯ ...(־֮֬)... I have to examine it. (Interruptions) It is for you to take a copy of the proceedings. (Interruptions) Show me the rule. I will follow the rule. (Interruptions) Show me the rule where I have to give you a copy of the proceedings. (Interruptions)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֳ֯ן , ֈ Adjourn և؛ ױָ ָ Ӥ ػ ֋ ...(־֮֬)... ִ ׾֯ ֵ, ֓ ֵ ...(־֮֬)...

0 ִ ӛָ : ֳ֯ן , ֜ ָ ֓ ...(־֮֬)...

֮֮ߵ ֤õ : ָ, ָָ ֻ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

ߠ ֳ֯ן : ָָ ֻ֟ , ֯ ֟և, ֮ ׻֋ ָ ...(־֮֬)... ָָ ֻ֟ ...(־֮֬)... I will examine it, ָָ ֻ֟ ! ֯ ֟և ״֮ ...(־֮֬)... Can't the Chair examine? (Interruptions)

00 ׻ֵ : ָ ָ օ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֯ , ֯ ֮ ߙ ָ և ...(־֮֬)...֯ և ...(־֮֬)... ֋ ? ֋ ? ...(־֮֬)... ׯ֔ פ , ֟ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ֯ և ...(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ֮֯ ػ ߅ ...(־֮֬)...

00 ׻ֵ : ֮֯ ؛ פև.. ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : פ։ ? ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ֮ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)...׸֛ ָ ֵօ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ָ և ...(־֮֬)... ֯ և ...(־֮֬)...

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : *

ָ֕ ״ : *

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I don't know what is.... (Interruptions) The House is adjourned till tomorrow to meet at 11.00 a.m. (Interruptions)

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The House then adjourned at thirty-one minutes past

two of the clock till eleven of the clock on Tuesday,

the 21st August, 2007.

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