PREVIOUS HOUR

-RSS/MKS/LT/4.00/3F

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Accelerated Irrigation Benefit Scheme

߅ ֮ , ֵֻ, ִ օ ׯ֔ ֻ օ Ù פ ָ ָָ , ֯ օ ײ֛ ߴ , ֱ ֆ Ù ָ כ , .և... ֻ ֵօ ׯ֔ ֻ ֤

֟ , I had requested the Finance Minister to start, like we had started the Sampurna Gramin Rozgar Yojana or the Pradhan Mantri Gram Sadak Yojana,...(Interruptions)... I had told him to start, because water is the Central issue in agriculture today, a Sampurna Sinchai Yojana. ִ օ ָ ִ Ӥ ֋ ֯ ׸ָ ׌ ִ ָ ִ , ָ֮ ߅..(־֮֬)..

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir, this statement is completely unnecessary. ...(Interruptions)... The last sentence, dragging in unnecessarily a family, is completely unnecessary. Let him make his point. Why does he make this disparaging remark? What is he doing by that? ...(Interruptions)... Does it not show his mindset? ...(Interruptions).......

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ֻ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Does it not show his mindset? ...(Interruptions)....... When I said 'it is his mindset and arrogance', they are raising objection. ...(Interruptions)..... Why do you say this? Tell me. ...(Interruptions)...

ֵ ֺ : ִ ֤ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir, I insist that he should withdraw that reference made to a family. It is completely unnecessary. ...(Interruptions)...It shows his mindset; it shows his arrogance. ...(Interruptions)...

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ָ, ״֮֙..(־֮֬).. ..(־֮֬).. և .(־֮֬)..

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: What is your mindset? What is your.... ...(Interruptions)... Why do you draw unnecessarily that?

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: I will come to your arrogance.

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: You used the word and....(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: I will come to your arrogance, Mr. Finance Minister.

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: ...I am turning it to you.

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: No, you can't turn it around me. I am just going to demonstrate, I am just going to prove my point. We had, Sir, started for urban renewal, for urban improvement, a scheme which we call the Balmiki Ambedkar Awas Yojana. What have they done in this Budget? They have abolished the name of 'Ambedkar' from this Scheme and they have merged it in the Jawaharlal Nehru Urban Renewal Mission! ...(Interruptions)... You call it the Jawaharlal Nehru Urban Renewal Mission. ...(Interruptions)... ִ ָ ־ ֻ ִ ָ פ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: He himself is violating...(Interruptions)...

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ך, ך ..(־֮֬)..֮ ו֋, ֮ ו֋..(־֮֬)..

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: He has replaced......(Interruptions)... Let him respond to this. : ֻ, ׻ֿ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֮ ו֋, ֮ ו֋..(־֮֬).. He will reply to it. ...(Interruptions)... He will reply to it.

. ֵ֛ : ߴ ׸֟Ԯ ..(־֮֬). Why has he dropped? Is he untouchable? Is 'Ambedkar' untouchable to you? ...(Interruptions)... Is 'Balmiki' untouchable to you? ...(Interruptions)... Then, why have you changed the name of 'Balmiki Ambedkar'? ...(Interruptions)... Why they have changed the names of 'Ambedkar' and 'Balmiki', let them reply. ...(Interruptions)... Let there be a debate on this. ...(Interruptions)....֮ ׸ ..(־֮֬).. ׾ֵ ֻ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ׻֋..(־֮֬)..

ִ֤ Ͼֻ : ָ, ֲ ֻ ִ פ ־ֲ ..(־֮֬).. ִֵ ..(־֮֬). ָ ־ֲ ֲָ ..(־֮֬)..

MR. CHAIRMAN: I think he will be withdrawing everything. ...(Interruptions)... : ֕֙ , ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I am only using the words that he has used. ...(Interruptions)... I kept quiet when he accused.....(Interruptions)... That is all. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please take your seats. ...(Interruptions)... Please take your seats. ...(Interruptions)... Please take your seats. Let him reply. ...(Interruptions)... ׻֋..(־֮֬)..

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, I did not......(Interruptions)... Sir, it was not my intention to drag him into a trap......(Interruptions).....but the manner in which he reacted to my first statement, and the manner in which he has kept quiet after my second statement, shows the guilty mind. ...(Interruptions)... This is the guilty mind. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Let him speak. ...(Interruptions)...

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ֳ ־ ֻ , פ Ӭ, ֕߾ Ӭ߅ ֻ ָ ?..(־֮֬). ִ ֤ פ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ׻֋, ׻֋..(־֮֬) Please take your seats. ...(Interruptions)... Please take your seats. He will speak. ...(Interruptions)... ֯ ך, ֮ ו֋..(־֮֬)..և ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ׾֯־ : ֳ֯ן , ֻ֟ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֻ֟ , ־ֲ ӡ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI B.K. HARIPRASAD: This is nothing but arrogance. ...(Interruptions)... (Followed by TM//3G)

-MKS-TMV-NB/3G/4.05

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, as far as irrigation is concerned, returning to the question of water... (Interruptions)...

THE MINISTER OF OVERSEAS INDIAN AFFAIRS (SHRI VAYALAR RAVI): He was a former Minister. (Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Pany, please take your seat. What is this?

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, I was raising the question of water for every parched field. I was talking about Sampoorna Sichai Yojana which this Government could start on the lines of the Pradhan Mantri Gram Sadak Yojana. Why I am referring to the Pradhan Mantri Gram Sadak Yojana because Mr. Venkaiah Naidu was the Minister of Rural Development. We sat together and worked out a scheme where we made sure that the 100 per cent money that we gave to the States was not wasted. Therefore, we drew up a very good scheme without stepping on the federal sensitivities of the States. We were able to work together with the States to make a success of the scheme. The point I am making is that minor irrigation and medium irrigation are the preferred sources of irrigation in our rural areas, not so big irrigation because big irrigation involves land issue. So, the Government of India could start a scheme where we could make total funds available from the Centre and drawing on the experience of the Pradhan Mantri Gram Sadak Yojana, you can draw a scheme where it will be possible for you to make sure that the projects are properly implemented and completed in time and the water starts flowing into the parched fields of the farmers. Unless we do this drought-proofing and reach irrigation water to the fields of our farmers--we can take fifteen minutes or twenty minutes or half-an-hour in our Budget Speech--nothing is going to happen.

Now, the other problems identified by the Economic Survey were imbalance in fertilizer use, low seed replacement rate, a distorted incentive system and low post-harvest value addition. In his fifteen or twenty minutes long speech, I am sorry, the Finance Minister has not touched on some of these major issues which the Indian agriculture is facing. ָ ֟ ֕֙ ֵ ߴ He said that there are 1,065 assessment blocks in this country where the groundwater has receded and it has assumed critical proportions. So, there is need to recharge groundwater. 4,000 ֋ ן ꌙ basis ָ ։ ִ ׸ ֮ ִ ִ߮ Ӥ ֋ ground water level ֯֙ ֵ֟ , ָ ֿ economist , ָ, ָ Ծ־ã ֻ, ָ ִ ָ idea , ֣ ׾֢ ӡ 4 ָ ֋ ן ֲ ָ 70 , ֮ 2,800 ֵ ָ ֓ ֳ 3,000 ֵ ָ ֓ ׻֋ ָ ִ ׮ idea , ֲ ֮֟ ״ּ ִ ֮ ֱ

3H/AKG ָ ֿ:

AKG-VK/3H/4.10

ֿ־ӟ ֮ (֟) : ׻֋ ֵ֤ ֯֙ ֵ ߅ ֯֙ ִ߮ ßָ ֮ ֮ , ֮ ־ , ֮֟ , ־֮֬ ֺ ֳ֯ן , ָ ֲ 10 ߙ ֮־֟ , ֳ 35-40 ָ ֋ ֮֟ ָ ָ ֋ ֋, ָ ָ ֋ ֮ ֋, ױ , ָ ִ ־֮֬ ָ և, ֮ ֮ , ָ ָ ֋օ

ָ ִ׮֟ ןֵ ָ ׾ֵ ֟֟ х ֬ Ϥ ֻ , ו ָֻ ֮ ָֻ ֮ ׻֋ ָ ֯ panic ָ pulses ֯ ban פ, ִ ָֻ ֮ ban ֵօ ֻ ׮־ָ-־ָ ֵ , ָ ָֻ ֮ ֟ ևԅ ָ pulses ban פ, ָֻ ֮ ban ֵօ ֯֟ , ֲ ֮ ָ ꅠ ױ ִ ӿ֮ , ӿ֮ ָֻ ֮ ֯ permit , DGFT through ֋օ ֋, DGFT permission , ֲ ָֻ ֮ ֯ օ ױ , export restrictions removed, ָֻ ֮ ֯ օ ֯ ֮֟ ߓ ָָ ןֵ ׸ פֵ, ָֻ ֮ ־ ָ ָֻ ֮ ־ օ ָֻ ֮ ־ 400 ֵ ן ،֙ ֵօ ֟ ִ ߮ ָ֯ , ו֮ ϟ׿֟ ֳ ֟ ֲ ָ, ָߤ ׻ֵ higher rates ָ ֯ ... (־֮֬) ... ֻ ֻ , ׾֢ ӡ ֟֋ꅠ

֤ ׾֢ ӡ ָ ֯ 'A pilot programme in, at least, one district in each State in 2007-08' - ֟ ׻֋ - 'pilot programme to deliver fertilizer directly to the farmer so that we can do away with the system of giving subsidy to the fertilizer factories.' ꅠ , ֟ , ߬-߬ ו֋, pilot project ꅠ food stamp pilot project ߅ ו ׾֢ ӡ food stamp օ ָ agricultural insurance pilot weather insurance scheme ָ߱ 2004 օ ֻ ֕֙ , 'The Government will ask the Agricultural Insurance Corporation to start a weather based crop insurance scheme on a pilot basis in two or three States.' Pilot pilot, pilot pilot. ֲ ֤ pilots , crash ֟ , ߕ pilot ֟ , pilot , pilot , ߮ ֻ piloting , ֟ߕ ִ֮ ־ פ income insurance scheme ָ ֮ ֵօ ־ פ ... (־֮֬) ... ֮֯ , ֟ פ weather insurance scheme rate of interest on agricultural credit , ֮֙ ִ , 9 ָ ָ ֋, ֯ 7 ָ ָ ֋ ״ֻ ״ֻ , ָ פ ֤ ֓ , ֟ ו֋ ָ כӛ ֕ פ differential rate of interest , 4 per cent, ָ ֯ ֮ farm credit ֲֻ և, ֲ ָ֮ ߅ ָ, ֟օ

15 ״֮֙ ߟָ ֟ օ ֯ ֋ ֟ credit ׻ֵ , ׻ֵ social sectors ָ ֵ֜օ

(3 ָ ֿ:)

3J/HMS-RG/4.15

ֿ־ӟ ֮ (֟) : , - , פ ׾֢ ӡ , 31 percent here, 32 percent here, 40 percent there, ֲ ֟ ֟ ׾֢ ӡ ֮֟ ֮֟ ה ה allocation ׾֢ ӡֵֻ ״ خ ߿֮ ֕֙ ֯ , ױ خ ߿֮ כ ָ ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮օ ֮ ִ֯ӣ ״֡ , ߟִָ , 00 ִ ֣ , ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮ allocation 11300 12000 ֵօ , that is only transfer to the Fund. ִ calculation and the Finance Minister can correct me if I am wrong. calculation , two per cent Education Cess on all taxes. The figure for 2007-08 works out to Rs.11,921 crores. announce ָ׳ ׿ 10393 ֱ ꅠ This amount of Rs.10,393 crores is less than Rs.11,921 crores. , ־ ֟ ֮ ֲ֕ ױָ , ׾֢ ӡ ׮־ ױָ ֟֋ ֻ ֮ ״ֻ֮ ֻ ֮ ָ׳ ׿ ֱ ָ׳ ׿ ֮ ׿ ִ ֵ , ִ ֮ ׮ , ָ׳ ׿ ֮ ? , ֲ ֟ ֻ ִ֓ ãן ֕ פ ֣--֣ mid year review פӲָ ߮ ٻִֵ , expenditure on Elementary Education which is somewhat more than the Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan. There, the expenditure was only 38 per cent. ו֮֟ , ߸ ָ , 15 ָ 8 ָ But on all important flagship schemes like the Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, it was only 38 per cent up to September, 2006. ֻ ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮ ׻֋ allocation , that is, Rs.10,671 crores, which is barely enough to account for inflation. ָ ֵ֮ improvement ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮

, ֻ-ֻ ֮ ֟ National Common Minimum Programme ֵ֮, ִ ׿ ׻֋ 6 percent of the GDP. 3.08 percent of the GDP Ù ֬ ָ , ֻ ֓ , ֻ ֯ 3 percent of the GDP ? , 3 percent of the GDP ֲֻ֟ 2 ֵօ ֯ ֻ ֻ ֕֙ 2 ֵ ? ָ 3 ָ 000 ֋ ֻ֮ ֮ ״׮ִִ ִ 0.94 ָ 2 ָ ֜֋ ֕֙ ו ֲֻ֟ ־ ߓ ֻ֮ ״ֿ֮ ׻֋ ֻٕ֮ ֜֋ , ֲ ׬ ؓ֟ ׾ֵ և , ֋ 6 AIMS type of institutions, ׻֋ ־֮֬ ֻ ֕֙ 75 ִ the Revised Estimate is only Rs.10 crores. ֲֻ֟ ֓ ֯ ִ ד ו֋ ִֻ ֜ , ֟և? , ָ ִ ָ ߴ ֜֋ , ֳ֯ן , ִֵ ָ ߴ וֻ ܵ 200 ֜ 330 allocation increase , that is about Rs.600 crores only. 600 ֯ 130 כÙ ָ ? ֲֻ֟ , Somewhere something is wrong, ֯ߴ כӛ ֋ He will spread his resources. וֻ-וֻ ֟ , ־ ִֵ ָ ߴ ֻ , ִ ָ Ӭֻ

(3 /ߋ־ ָ ֿ:)

PSV-TDB/3K/4.20

ֿ־ӟ ֮ (֟) : וÙ֮ ו וÙ֮ , ִ ״ֻ ֯ ߤ ֛!

ָ, ֕ פ , - Ùָ ֋ օ ֮ Ù ֕֙ , 2004 , "I am going to set up an inter-institutional group consisting of IDBI, IDFC, ICICI Bank, SBI, LIC, BOB, PNB of Rs.40,000 crores Ùָ ָ ֓ ָ ׸ օ ֤ 2005 he talked of a Special Purpose Vehicle. ֤, in 2006, he said, "We have set up the India Infrastructure Finance Company Limited." , ֯ ֵ֮ - India Infrastructure Development Finance Corporation. ֲ ׾֢ ӡ , ֵ֮ օ It is a dedicated financial institution for infrastructure. ױ India Infrastructure Finance Company ֵ֮օ ָ , City Group, Black Stone, IDFC and IIFCL have put together a fund of five billion US dollars. ָ ָ֟ ֕֙ և ֟, ֕֙ և ֟օ Inter-institutional group Black Stone City Group ָ ֋ My point, Sir, is that in the three years that the UPA Government has been in office, not a single major infrastructure project has got off the ground. ֯ ֟և ֣ ֟ ָ Ùָ ꌙ ֟և, which is comparable to our National Highway Development Programme. ָ ֯ ֤ ֟և ֮֯ ִ ? , finance is not the issue in infrastructure, Sir. The real issue in infrastructure is user charges. ֮֯ ֮ ֵ֟, ֵָ և ֮ ֻ֟-ֻ֟ ֯ פ, ֮֯ ֕֙ ߅ So, infrastructure is not moving forward. Even the Finance Minister has admitted that the work is

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair)

slow. ִ ֯ ־ ֠ ֛օ ֮ ־ ? ֵ֤ ֮ ־ և , -- ֛օ ֱ ָ ֟ SEZ ֻ SEZ is too much of a good thing. Ù SEZ ֮ , , ָ 300 SEZ, 400 SEZ -- , ֮ ֮ , ָ ִ֮ Special Economic Zone ֵ ִ ֛֛֬ sanction ִ ֮ Ӭֻ , ֯ ֟ ֮֟ ? ...(־֮֬)...

פ ס־ : ָ, ...(־֮֬)... ֮ , ָ ֻ SEZ ֵ֮ 50 ָ ֋, ֲָ - ״ֻ ...(־֮֬)... SEZ ִ ֮ ...(־֮֬)...

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ֮ ִ߮ , SEZ ֮ֆ, ߵֻ Ù ֻ ָ ײ֚ SEZ ֮ ֮, ֱ ״ֻ֮ This is the only thinking of this Government, as far as infrastructure is concerned. ֲ և ֟

֤ ״ ׸ ֟ ֮ ׸ԅ ٛ ֋ ٛ ֮ ֤, ֲ ָ ִ֯ӣ ״֡ ׾ָ , ֤ ײֻ ֋ ײֻ ֵ, Ùכ Ù؛ , ׻ֵ ֮ Ù؛ ׸ 26.07.2005 ٻִֵ ִ֮ ևԅ ָ ݵ֮ ֵօ ׾֢ ӡ ֵ֤ ֿ ֯ ו֋ ׸ ֟, ֮֯ ֮ ׸ , ֮֯ ݵ֮ ײֻ , ִ֯ ֟ ֤ ִ֮ ֋, ֤ ֤ ? ֲ ֟ ֮ , ֲ Ù؛ ׸ ֯ ߮ ֛ , ֯ ֛ ֤ ֤ ו֋ ֯ ײ֮ 같 ֙ ֕֟ וû֮ ֋ ֲ և ָ֤ Ù؛ ײֻ ָ ֮ ׸ִ ָ ן ֮ ׸ և ׸ ֤ My point is, does he have a veto? Do they have a veto? ٻִֵ ײֻ ̸֕Ӥ֕ ߙ ֻ֋ , , օ ָ , ֟ (3/000 ָ ֿ:)

AKA-KGG/3L/4:25

ֿ־ӟ ֮ (֟) : ׻֋, UPA has remained committed to economic reforms. if you have remained committed to economic reforms, then have the courage and bring the Pension Bill. ֳ֯ן , ֯ ֮֟ ֮ ײֻ ? 01.01.2004 ו֮֟ ֋ և , ֲ ִ - 10 ָ ߲֮ 10 ָ ָָ ߲֮ ߮ ֻ ָ ֋ , 8 ָ ָ ָָ ִ-֕ ֵ Ùߕ , וִ֮ פֵ ֵ the returns could be 29 per cent. If you are denying that return to the individual contributor to the pension fund, then you are betraying. My charge is ֯ ֮֟ ֯ ֮ ִ ֋, ָָ ֙ ֋ 8 ָ ֮ ? ֮ ׌ ָ 8 ָ ֮ 8 ָ ֋ ָ 29 ָ ֮ 29 ָ ֋ , ֻֻ ֻ ֛ ײֻ , ײֻ ֟ ֤ օ

Insurance sector reforms, pending. 㴲և financial hub ֮֋, Ϭ֮ ӡ   financial hub ֮֋, ӑև ֮֋ꅠ ֮֯! ֻ ֮֯ ֤ ? Capital account convertibility , committee after committee, committee after committee. Liberalisation ִ disinvestment privatisation ֋ օ My charge is, as far as the economic reforms are concerned, they have turned the clock back, they have gone back on what we had started and they have not started anything new.

ֳ֯ן , ֮֟ ָ ֮ , ֲ ֤ ״ֻ֟ ֲ ֟ ָ ֟ ׾֢ ӡ What is your philosophy of taxation? Please tell us when you are replying to the debate: What is your philosophy of taxation? I brought to bear a certain philosophy of taxation. I said, the Cenvat rate would be 16 per cent, will compress all rates to that, ֮֯ exemption ֟ , ֮֯ ֋ exemption פ, ֯ discretionary taxation ׯ ֋ ֕ ߴ ִֻ , , without going into ash content, 100 per cent ash content can be imported into the country duty free. ֤ ߴ ָ ָ ߅ He is using fiscal measures to control prices in the market. ֤ ߴ ֻ ׸ïӛ ? 12 ֋ ן ָ ֯֟ ָ ֮ ߴ֟ ֜ևԅ 12 ֋ ߴ֟ ֜ , ׯ ߅ ֮ ֜ ֮ ֙?

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I have, of course, used the fiscal measure in order to moderate prices. I may succeed, I may not succeed. I wanted to clarify whether the Government should be silent when cement manufacturers raise their prices by 40 per cent in a matter of 8 months. What is your party's stand on that?

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: The party's position is, you do exactly what the Commerce Minister of your Government did; namely, that he called them and talked to them and got an assurance from them that they will not raise the prices for one year. But...

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Do you support the statement that after raising it by 40 per cent they will not raise it further?

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: No, this is what I am saying. You are trying to lock the bolts after the horses have been stolen. You should have done it before. What is the Finance Minister who does not even have the clout to call the cement manufacturers and tell them 'do not raise prices'?

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: What we will do, I will tell you in my reply. I want to know what is your party's stand?

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: No, we are not in Government, Mr. Chidambaram. (Interruptions) We are not in Government and it is your responsibility. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Pani, Please sit down. (Interruptions)

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ָ, ֮ և ױ , ֮ ָ ׾֢ ӡ ָ ָ ֕ ֮ ֮֟օ ('3m/sch' ָ ָ)

KLS/SCH/4.30/3M

ֿ־ӟ ֮ (֟): ָ ִ ָ ֵԤ , ָ ִֵ ֮ ֟ , ֮ ִֵ

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I am only asking you about your party's stand. ...(Interruptions)... I am asking you about your party's stand. ...(Interruptions)...I am only requesting you to clarify your party's stand. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Learn from what we did. ...(Interruptions)... Learn from what we did. You have done something which is very, very evil 190 ָ ֮ 190 ߓ ֮ ...(Interruptions)... It is as evil...(Interruptions)... It is as bad...(Interruptions)...

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Just a moment. ...(Interruptions)... 'I succeed, I may not succeed', I said so. ...(Interruptions)... I may succeed or I may not succeed...(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: You have not succeeded. ...(Interruptions)... It is already there. ...(Interruptions)... You have raised the prices. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Do not come to any conclusions. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: I am not. ...(Interruptions)... It is just a fact.

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Just a moment. ...(Interruptions)... The Dual Sales Tax was attempted in a State Government some years ago that succeeded in moderating prices. I said so in my post-Budget Conference. I said, we are attempting a dual excise rate; I may succeed or I may not succeed. But I still appeal to the cement manufacturers that they should moderate prices. There are other options open to Government. All I am requesting you most respectfully is to please clarify your party's stand whether the Government should keep quiet when the cement manufacturers raised their prices by 40 per cent over a period of six to seven months. Please clarify it, if your party...(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: I have already responded to him and I told him that he should have done as Finance Minister what the Commerce Minister of his Government has done. ...(Interruptions).. ֲ ָָ ։, ֲ ֯ ֟ ָ Ù ...(־֮֬) ִ ֤ פ ..(־֮֬) ֤ פ ...(־֮֬)

ִָ֮ ֵ: ָ, ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן: ״Ù ֵ, , ֯ ֟

ֿ־ӟ ֮: ֳ֯ן , ִ ...(־֮֬) ִ Iron ore exports and chrome ore exports, ָӛ Ù ֟ , ׻֋ Iron ore exports ָ 300 ֵ ן ֯ , , ? what he said in his Budget Speech, "I have done this with a view to conserving natural resources.." and at the same time, he raised revenue ? Conserve natural resources, ֲֻ֟ ֯ ָ և if you do not want iron ores fines to go out ֯ ָ 3000 ֵ ׾֮ , 3000 ֵ ׾֮ , ֲֻ֟ ֯ ߮ օ ֵ֤ ֟ ֲ Iron ore mining , ֲ ִ fines automatically ׮֟ , there are 70 per cent fines and 30 per cent lumps. , taking a leaf out of the Hota Committee Report. Hota Committee Report has not been presented to the House ָ ׾֢ ӡ ײֻ ֻ֟ in trying to give the impression that Hota Committee has actually supported the imposition duty on iron ore fines. ָ ֟ ֮ ֤ we should revisit this matter after ten years. But in the meanwhile as a way of abundant precaution, the Committee recommends that an export duty may be levied and exports of iron ore in lump form with SE content of 65 per cent. SE content of 65 per cent

, taking a leaf out of Hota Committee, I am imposing a duty on iron ore exports. ֯ ִ ָ ֆ ֟ ִ ֟ fines which is an essential by-product dust ָ ָ ֲԤ , ־ִֵָ ָ ָ ֛ , ߓ ִ߮ , ָ and what are the miners saying now? The miners are saying that iron ore exports are already stopped. և ֮ פ ו֮֟ ևخ , ָ ָ ִ , ִ ꅠ ׾֢ ӡ ִֻ ־ֻ , is he in a position here, when he replies to the debate, to give us an assurance that 70 million tonnes or whatever is the production, 89 millions tonnes of fines in a year, -- will he ensure -- that they are bought by local steel makers, manufacturers? ? ָ פ ֯ ֳ֯ן , ִ ָ և Ӥ ֋, ֮֯ Ӥ ֋ ...

3N/MCM ָ ָ

MCM-SSS/3N/4-35

ֿ־ӟ ֮ (֟) : ؛ Ӥ ֋, ֯ ֮ ־ ֋ִ օ ױñ ֮ , ֟ ֜ פ, ֙ פ, פօ և, ?......(־֮֬) ֟ ָ ߅ ײֻ ׾ֻ, ו ׾ֻ ֋ ꅠ ӕꌿ֮ ر ׮ױ օ ر ׮ױ ָ ֻ פօ ֤ ӕꌿ֮ ָ ֛ , ֳ֯ן , ֤ ׾֢ ӡ ־ֻ ֯ ꮵ ׻֋ , ֯ ֯ ֻ ֮ ׻֋ , ֯ ֈ ֣ ָ ֮ ֻ ֮ ֮֯ , פ ӕꌿ֮ օ ׯ֔ ֻ ֕֙ ֕֙ ïߓ , Ӥ ָ ֻ ꅠ ֮ ֕֙ ïߓ ָ ֵ֟ օ

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: You were not present when I replied. This time you will be present.

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ׮֋ ֳ֯ן , ֯ ִ֬ ׾֢ ӡ ֻ֟ ֙ ֤õ օ ֤ ֮֟ ו֮ , ײֻ ֋, ֮֟ ָָ օ ֕ פ ־ֻ ָ ׾֢ ӡ banking cash transaction tax ֯ ֟և ֯ ֮ ֻ ֮ ֟ ֻ , ֮֯ ֮ פ ֵ וִָ ֣ ָ ֲ ָָ ֋ ر ׮ױ ӕꌿ֮ ׻ֿ ꅠ ָ ֵ֤ օ ֻ ֮ ֟ Hassan Ali 35,000 ֵ 42,000 ֵ֠ one does not know. Why didn't you discover it through your BCCTE? Tell the House. Why didn't it help you? Tell the House ֮ ָ ֓և because all kinds of things are being said about the involvement of Ministers and politicians. ֲ ֛ ֟ ֳ֯ן , ֕֙ ױ ױ֙ 3.7 per cent ֤ 3.6 per cent פ, ꮵ ױ֙ פօ ױ ָ ֯ ֮ ֟ օ Revenue deficit is 1.5 per cent of the GDP. ֻ ֻ ׮ֻ 1.5 per cent of the GDP, in the Budget figures it is Rs. 71,000 crores but if the economy expands the figure will be more. ׸֛ ׯ֔ 3 , 0.5 per cent of reduction in revenue deficit every year. ֙ 1.5 ָ ꅠ ִ֟ , ֟֋Ӆ ֤ , ֻ ֕֙ ֮֯ כ ׻֋ 16 ָ ֋ ֌׸ օ Petroleum companies ׻֋ Rs. 19,000 crores ֠ ֌׸ օ Securities, as we all know, is expenditure postponed. At least Rs. 35,000 crores is what he has covered through securities. It should be public sector undertakings. It is not reflected in the Budget because it is revenue neutral. ֤ ׻ִֵ և ִ֟ פև ֻ֟ under-recovery of the petroleum companies is of the order of Rs. 75,000 crores. So the national deficit is Rs. 75,000 crores plus Rs. 35,000 crores. ־ ֟֋ ֲָ Fertilizer companies Rs. 11,500 crores is over-due. The Budget allocation for next year is Rs. 11,400 crores. ? This is also a suppression of figure. Sir, there are lot of inanities in the Budget Speech but for shortage of time I will not go into them. I would only like to emphasis that the underlying concerns of the Indian economy have not been addressed. I would like to emphasise that no economy can go on running on momentum provided in the past. Sometime or the other the increasing interest rates in the economy are bound to have an impact on consumer demand. (Contd by NBR/3O)

-SSS/NBR-GS/3O/4.40.

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA (CONTD.): If nothing much is happening on the infrastructure side, then, it will have a debilitating effect on economic growth. And, ֙ և ֮ ׮ ӲӬ ? ׾֢ ӡ ָ ֿ ֻ 0 ִ֮ և 10.6 ָ , ִ֮ և ׮ ׸ ? ֲ ִ֮ ָָ ֟ , և ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI: At least, the hon. Prime Minister is accused of և. But, he will never be accused of UTI ...(Interruptions)... He does not carry the cap of the UTI...(Interruptions)... He is carrying that...(Interruptions)...

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: If he is saying something in a light hearted way, I take it in a light hearted way. But, I think, there is an undercurrent of malice in his statements to which I object ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: If you notice an undercurrent ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: If he says in a light hearted way, it is okay...(Interruptions)...

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : , ӡ ..(־֮֬)..

׾֢ ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ־֮ ָ ֻ) : ָ, 18 ָ, 1998 ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI YASHWANT SINGH: Sir, if the Finance Minister noted an undercurrent of malice in my statement, he should look into all that he has done and said in the Budget Speech and reply to this question as to why did he make it such a partisan document.

SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: What partisan document?

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: What partisan document?...(Interruptions)...The Budget is a political document...(Interruptions)...

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Of course, it is a partisan document ...(Interruptions)...You are taking credit for the production of electricity which was started in our time...(Interruptions)...And, you are blaming us for inflation! ֮ ָ ָ ָ և ײֻ֕ ӵ֡ , כ ָ, ..(־֮֬)..

־֮ ָ ֻ : ָָ և ן ߅ ..(־֮֬)..Which statements are incorrect?..(Interruptions)...

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Both are factual statements...(Interruptions)... We have shown what you have done in five years and what we have done in three years...(Interruptions)...Don't mix the statements ...(Interruptions)...

ֿ־ӟ ֮: : ָ, ӟ ..(־֮֬).. ָ, ָ ֟ ֤ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: They referred to the hon. Prime Minister. So, they responded...(Interruptions)...

ֿ־ӟ ֮: ָ, ָ ֕֙ ֮ ֤ ָָ ֢ , ֢ ֮ , ֲ ֛ ־ - ִ ֤, ִ ֤ ֕֙ , פ, ָ ָ ֵ ߴ֟ ָ ָ - ֮֮ ִ ֤ ֟ כ, ִ ֮ , ׻֋ ֻ Pedigree ֮, ִ ִ , ִ ֤ , ֕֙ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Janardhana Poojary.

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Sir, I am very thankful to you...(Interruptions)...

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, at what time are we going to have the statement of the hon. Home Minister on Nandigram?..(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I will check-up...(Interruptions)...There is a direction from the Chair to the Home Minister to report back ...(Interruptions)...We will find out.

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, Home Minister is taking such a long time ...(Interruptions)...ָ, ׻ֵӾֻ ӛ ֵ ..(־֮֬).. ָ, ֟ ָ ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֳ֯ן , ו ִֵ ׾ֵ ֵ ֵ , ִֵ ãן ָ֤ ֵ ֓ ָ ֋ ..(־֮֬).. ָ ָ ָ֮ ֵָ ָ օ ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ָ : ָ, ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ָ֮ ֵָ ָ , ָ ָ ..(־֮֬)..

MR. DETPUTY CHAIRMAN: Why discussion?...(Interruptions)...A direction has been given to the Minister...(Interruptions)... ֋, ס־ ߅..(־֮֬).. ֯ և..(־֮֬)..

00 ׻ֵ : ָ, ֓ ָ פ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ָָ Ù օ ..(־֮֬)..The Chair has given a direction to the Home Minister to report back to the House...(Interruptions)... (3 ָ )

SC/USY/4.45/3P

פ ס־ : ָ, ֲ ״׮Ù ֵ, ֈ ֻ ..(־֮֬).. ״׮Ù ֋Ӆ ..(־֮֬).. ֲ ״׮Ù ֋, ֈ ֻ֮ ..(־֮֬).. We can't have the House in this way. (Interruptions)

..׻ֵ : ׻ֵ ֻ ֮..(־֮֬)..

פ ס־ : ׻ֵ ֻ ..(־֮֬).. ß֮ ׻ֵ ֻ ..(־֮֬).. ״׮Ù և..(־֮֬).. ״׮Ù և..(־֮֬)..

..׻ֵ : ֲ֤ß ׻ֵ ֻ ..(־֮֬)..

פ ס־ : ִ֮ ׻ֵ ֻ ֮ פ ..(־֮֬)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Home Minister will make a statement, as per the direction of the Chair....(Interruptions) A statement will be made before the House rises. (Interruptions)

..׻ֵ : ..(־֮֬).. ֻ֟ ָ֤ ..(־֮֬)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: In the morning, the Chairman had directed the Home Minister to come out with a statement, and that statement is...(Interruptions)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI PRASANTA MUKHERJEE: Sir, this must not be allowed. (Interruptions) They are out to create disturbance. (Interruptions)

..׻ֵ : ָ߲ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ٻִֵ ״׮Ù ֯ և ..(־֮֬).. He is a Parliamentary Affairs Minister. He is entitled to make a statement. (Interruptions) Nothing will go on record. (Interruptions) ֯ և..(־֮֬).. He is a Parliamentary Affairs Minister, he is entitled...(Interruptions) ֟ ? ..(־֮֬).. Don't you want a statement? (Interruptions) ֻ? ..(־֮֬).. ֯ ֮ ? ..(־֮֬).. ״׮Ù ..(־֮֬).. The Home Minister is coming within five minutes. ֟ No; no, you are not helping. (Interruptions) When the Home Minister is coming to make a statement, then, why are you...(Interruptions) He is coming. (Interruptions) This is not correct. (Interruptions) This is not fair. (Interruptions) Nothing will go on record. (Interruptions) (3 ָ ֿ:)

VP/MP/4.50/3q

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN (CONTD.): ֋, ך .....(־֮֬).... There should be some.. ..(Interruptions).. ״׮Ù Ù .....(־֮֬).... ״Ù ׻ֵ .....(־֮֬).... Are you not interested in the statement? ..(Interruptions).. ).. The Home Minister wants to make a statement, are you not interested in it? ..(Interruptions)..֯ ך....(־֮֬)... Mr. Vijayaraghavan, please sit down. ..(Interruptions)..

Please sit down. ..(Interruptions).. ׻ֵ ,....(־֮֬)....Nothing will go on record. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: *

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: *

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ך....֯ ך....(־֮֬)...֮ ֯ ״׮Ù ֆꅠ ״׮Ù ֲ Ù , ֯ ֮ , ֟ ? ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ׮֋ , ָָ ־ֲ ...(־֮֬)... It is very strange. ..(Interruptions).. You wanted

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* Not recorded.


a statement of the Home Minister. ..(Interruptions).. You said, "You call the Home Minister". The Home Minister has come and when he wants to make a statement, you are not interested. ..(Interruptions).. ֮֮ߵ ӡ , Ù ו֋

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Where is the copy of the statement?

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: It is by direction.

STATEMENT RE: RECENT VIOLENCE IN NANDIGRAM,

WEST BENGAL

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): Sir, I was directed to get the information from the State Government and give it to this hon. House. Our officers have been talking to the officers in the State Government. The Home Secretary has spoken to the Chief Secretary. I had the occasion to speak to the Chief Minister also. We are trying to get the information from them. We have not yet received any information in writing. Whatever information we have received telephonically, I am just giving it to the House.

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: When did you speak? What was the time?

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: I am giving the information.

ֳ֯ן : ... (־֮֬)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: He called it the latest news, that is why, I am asking.

ֳ֯ן : ׮֋, ֟ ו֋ օ

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Sir, at Nandigram some people had collected and they were not allowing the construction of the road to be continued over there and some bridge construction is also going on there. When the workers were going to that place, they were obstructed. So, the police had to help the workers to reach those places. And, we are told that there were about 20,000 people standing over there. They had gheraoed those two places; areas. There was resistance offered by the people who had gathered there, and the police was trying to see that the workers go there and start the work. In the process, pelting of stone was started, and then, the police also, it seems, resisted. And they burst some teargas shells and, then, rubber bullets were also fired. We were told that a few crude bombs were also burst and some firing was done and police also fired. And, in the process, the telephonic information we have received up to this time is that six persons have died. (Continued by PK/3R)

PK/ASC/3R/4.55

SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL (CONTD.): Six persons have died and about 20 persons have been injured. Out of 20 persons, 8 persons are policemen. They have been sent to the hospitals and they are being treated. We are told that now the situation is under control. This is the kind of information we have received up to this time. Our officers are in touch with the officers there telephonically. We could get only this much information which I am sharing with you...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, about..(Interruptions)... people have died and 100 people have been injured....(Interruptions)...

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Sir, kindly give me an opportunity to speak..(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on record...(Interruptions)...You wanted the Home Minister's statement. ..(Interruptions).. The Home Minister has made the Statement...(Interruptions).. No, no, it is your Statement...(Interruptions).. You wanted Government's Statement...(Interruptions).. The Government has made the statement after collecting the information...(Interruptions).. ֯ ?..(־֮֬).. ֯ ...(־֮֬). ״׮Ù և פ ...(־֮֬).. ״׮Ù ֮ ...(־֮֬).. ֯ ֟ ׻֋ ֤ י ו֋ ...(־֮֬).. The House is adjourned to meet tomorrow at 11.00 a.m.

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The House then adjourned at fifty-seven minutes past

four of the clock till eleven of the clock on

Thursday, the 15th March, 2007.

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