PREVIOUS HOUR

PB/4A/5.00

SHRI K.B. SHANAPPA (CONTD.): Sir, this is an area from where you are collecting Rs. 1800 crores every year. I am not asking you for any sort of favour. You have to see that the people who are suffering for the last many years are requesting you for 140 kilometres railway line between Bidar and Gulbarga. We have also requested for a new train to be introduced on this line, and we personally met Laluji along with Ramesh Jigajinagi and Ananth Kumarji. Sir, near about twenty Members of Parliament had signed the memorandum. The hon. Deputy Chairman was kind enough to recommend to you for some favourable action. Shri Oscar Farnandesji had also sent a letter in this regard. So, we are not demanding anything more than this. Therefore, I request the hon. Railway Minister to start a new train between Solapur and Bangalore. There is a demand for the last many years. Sir, I am completing.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No; no; I did not obstruct. He himself is expecting it.

SHRI K.B. SHANAPPA: Sir, in the year 1996, there was a train survey from Hospet. A big survey was conducted as to whether a new line has to be constructed between Gulbarga and Hospet which covers near about 350 kilometres distance. That comes via Sindhanur, Lingsugur, Surpur, Shahpur and Gulbarga. Suppose if it is taken into consideration, the road journey would be stopped, and you would be having a lot of profit out of it. Therefore, I would request the hon. Minister to have a survey on those routes where the survey work is required, where the railway lines have to be laid. It is not necessary that whatever has been done by the Britishers has to be continued. Since 1952 till today, i.e., 2006, every year, we are constructing 175 kilometres railway line. If we do the work with this speed on this line, it is not possible to reach the destination. Sir, I do not want to take much of your time.

But I would just like to mention one more thing. employee, ו ָ complaint ֵ, his name is Joseph Fernandes. He served the Railways for 28 years, and he requested the Ministry of Railways to give him voluntary retirement and asked for the settlement of all his dues. I just want to give you his employee number. I am mentioning it because it is a human problem. His employee No. is 213. He was working in Dound, the Central Railway. He was taking his salary from Solapur. He died in 2006. After putting in 28 years' service, he could not get his gratuity, provident fund or any other settlement. When he was alive, he approached the Railway Ministry to clear his dues. The Railway Department said, 'what is your identity to prove that you have worked with the Railways?' As a proof of his identity, Mr. Joseph produced the quarter receipt, the society receipt, medical receipt, etc. He produced everything, but so far, they have not given him anything. Afterwards, he died in Goa. Later, his wife claimed for it. She made many requests to Solapur Division in this regard, and I tell you that that lady is also on the verge of death. I would like to request the hon. Minister to have a thorough enquiry about this incident because it happens to be in the division of Solapur. If this is the thing, I am sure, they must have done some sort of mischief.

SHRI R. VELU: What was he? What was his designation?

SHRI K.B. SHANAPPA: He was a shunting driver.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): And all the arrears are to be paid!

SHRI K.B. SHANAPPA: Sir, nothing has been paid to him and even her pension has not been fixed.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Minister, please take note of it.

SHRI R. VELU: Please give it to me. (Contd. by 4b)

4b/5.05/skc-hms

SHRI K.B. SHANAPPA: Sir, I will be sending it to you. ֣--֣ ֟ ֯ ֯և , Ӥ ִ , ֯ ִ especially in the Udyan train between Bombay and Bangalore and 00 ֮֕֬ ֻ ֻ֟ , Ù ֙ ӡ , ֯ Ӥ ׻֋ ػ ֯ , ֮ - ֛ ֵ ִ פ ֵ ֮ ֟ I would request the hon. Minister to see to it that new bogies are given to that area ײ֛ 6 ֵ ֟ ,

ֳ֬ (0 00 ׸֮): ֯ ִֵ ֟ ֵօ The most important point made by you has been accepted by the Minister.

00 ֯: ָ, ׸ ֮֯ 91 Ӥ פօ ֯ 14 ֟ , ֤ ־ ׸ֵָ , ֓ ? Ù ־֮Դ ߕ֮ ֤ ׸ֵָ , ֓ ׻֋ compassionate grounds ָ appointment ֟

Therefore, I would request the hon. Minister to see to it that ו , ׻֋ -- you have to open the doors to start this policy. You have yourself said that you wanted to support workmen and work for their betterment. You have taken a lot of remedial measures.

With these words, I would like to thank the Chair and ױ ״ֻ ֟ օ (Ends)

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* Pp 540-546 Malayalam Speech will be issued as Supplement.

** Pp 576 Onwards will be issued as Supplement.

4b/5.05/skc-hms

THE BUDGET (RAILWAYS), 2007-2008 - CONTD.

&

RESOLUTION APPROVING RECOMMENDATIONS

CONTAINED IN FIFTH REPORT OF THE RAILWAY

CONVENTION COMMITTEE (2004) - (CONTD.)

ֳ֬ (0 00 ׸֮): Ӥ 껻օ

Ӥ 껻 (֮ Ϥ) : ֳ֬ , ָ ӡ ֤ ã֟ , ֻ ֤ ӡ ו֮ ָ ָ ֕֙ ״ֻ ָ և ״׮Ù 0 דָ֤ 4 ָ ֕֙ ״ֻ ָ, ֤ ֻ֛ ָ , ָ , ֻ ָ ֟ ׸ߙ ֋ ִִ ֟ ָ ։, ֕ ֕֙ ן ֻ ֤ ָ֤ פ օ ֮ ׻֋, ׻֋, ׻֟ ׻֋, ֵ֮׸ߕ ׻֋ ֕֙ օ ִִ ֻ֟ ָ ֮ ֵ ֵ֜օ ֈ߮ דָ , ֕ ֵ֛ ֮ ֻ ֤ ֕֙ ָ օ ָ, ֻ ֤ ־ ָ Ӥ ֛ ׸֕ ֕ ֛ , ׾֬ ״ֻ , ֯ ִ֮ ֮ ן ֮ ߴ֟ פ Ӭ Ӭ Ϥ כÙ ֳ ׻֋ contest Ϭ֮ ӡ ֮ ָ, ֮ Ӭ Ϥ ֮ ׸ ֛ כÙ ֟ ֮ כÙ ֛ ׸ , ֺ ָ, ֌ ֻ֯ן ס֚֯ ӡ (4 /ߋ־ ָ ֿ:)

PSV-HK/4C/5.10

Ӥ 껻 (֟): ָ, ָ ׸Ù þָ օ ֤ ָ ָ ֣ ו֮֟ וû , ִִ ֟֓ߟ ߅ ֤ 8 ߙ ִ և ־ ևԮ ֯ ֙֓ ևԅ ֤ô֟ ֕ כ ־ ӡ ֮֮ ֤ פ ױֻ ֯ Ӥ֕ և ևԮ ֮ ֤, ֛ ֻ֮ ֤, ֮ ֤, פ ֵօ ָ ֮ ו֮֟ ָ֤ , ־ ֵ? ־ ׬ָ, ӕ׮ֵָ ֯֙ , ֮ օ 8 ߙ ִ ևԮ ֵ, ֤ ױ ֵօ

ָ, ָ ֕ ӡ ָ ֈ ָ֟ ֯ خ ָָ ֟ , ֤֟ ֛ ׸ - , ֕ ֛ ? և ևԮ ֮ ֜, ָ ֟ , ӛÙ ֣ - ߕ և ևԮ ֮ ֤ ֵ֤Ӥ , ָ֕Ӥ֕ ֵօ ֯ ֻ Ӭ Ϥ this is the first time 39 0ߕ0, ٻִֵ ָ, ֳ ֋ ָ Ϭ֮ ӡ ׮־ ֵ ָ Ӭ Ϥ ֣ ևֱ , ֕Ù ֤ ֋ ӡ , ֯ ֛ ׸ , ֈ , -Ù , ־ ֟-- , ֮֟ ׻י ִִ ִ ֟ -- ֯ ָ֕Ӥ֕ ֟ ו֋, ֤ ֯ ִ֤ ߅ ֮ כÙ , ֕ ־ Ù֮ ׻֋ ӡ ֯ ָ ׸ ֯ ֮֟ ֛ ׸ , ָ ㋙ ֮֮ ֤ ֕ ו֮֟ , ו֮֟ ־֮ , -ִֻ֯ ָ ָ أ ׻֋ ӡ , ֯ ֋ ׯִ ֕֙ -- ֮, ׸ 0ߕ0 Ϭ֮ ӡ ״ֻ֮ ֤ ܾ , ֕ ָ 000 ָָ Ӥ, ָ ָ Ϭ֮ ӡ 000 ָ ߴ֟ ׮ֵ Ӭ ֛ ׸ ֛ ׻֋ ׻ ֵօ

֯ ֕֙ ֯ Ӆ ֯ ֕ ֳ ֳ ѓ ָ 00 օ ֯ ֻ ֳ ֟ , ֮֯ ׻ֵ , פ , ֯ ֋ , ֯ ֛ ֵ? ٻִֵ ׬ָ ִִ ߕ ָ ־ֲ ֛ Ӭ Ϥ ֣ ևֱ ևԅ ֮ ָ ֕ ܵ ӡ և0 0 ָ־ ָ և ׻֋ ֲ ߅ Ӭ Ϥ ָָ ֯ 50 ָ ׻֋ , ֵօ

֟ ֻ ֮ ֕֙ ׸פ ָ ֵ֟, ָ ֕֙ ֮ ֟ ׻֋

" ֻ , ׸פ ָ ,

ָ ֮ Ӭ љ ֛, օ

ִӤ ׮ ֮֯ ׻ פ

ߴָ ֲ , -ֺ օ

ָ ߿ӛ ֱ ӡ ֻ,

֮ ֛ ֮״ֵ , ֟

׌ֵ օ" ...(ִֵ ә)... ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֬ (0 00׸֮): ו֋ ...(־֮֬)... ו֋ ...(־֮֬)...

Ӥ 껻 : ֛ ׸֕ ׻֋ և ו֋, ָ ...(־֮֬)... ָ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֬: ֻ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)...

Ӥ 껻 : ...(־֮֬)... Ù֮ ָ ...(־֮֬)... ָ-ָ ֋ ֵә ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֬ : ׻֋, ׻֋ ֻ ׸ և ...(־֮֬)... (4 ָ ֿ:)

KSK/KLG/5.15/4D

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, when Members raise issues about rural people and their area, and in the Budget discussion, there is so much time also, the Minister also is having patience to hear, let the Members have their say. After all, the reply is tomorrow...(Interruptions). I am talking of a general point not only about Shri Nandi Yellaiah. In the Parliament, most of the time, we are discussing political issues. When we are able to discuss on some important locally-connected issues, I only request the Chair that we should give them time.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I agree. Let him speak about local issues. I only cautioned him. I did not stop him.

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, the moment you press the Bell...(Interruptions).

Ӥ 껻 : ָ, ֻ ֤ ָ߲ פֵ, ߴ֟ פ Ӭ ָ߲ ֆ ָ ֕ 15 ֻ פ օ ..(־֮֬)

ֵָ : ָ ..(־֮֬)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Don't disturb. Let him speak. ֯ ִ , ֲ ׻֋

Ӥ 껻 : ֳ֬ , ָ ֌ ߴ֟ פ Ӭ ֤օ ֵ ֤ ן ևԅ ֯ ֻ , ֟ Ӥ, ׸ Ӥ ֻ֮ ָ օ ֮֟ ָ߲ ֆ ָ , ߴ֟ פ Ӭ פօ ֤ ָ 敵 ֻ ֤ , ֛ ײֻ ֤ , ӓ ָ ײָ ܵ ӡ , ֲ ß֮ ֋ ֻ ֮ ׻֋ ֛ ֻ ߅ ָ ִ ָ օ ֮֟ ֻ ֤ ֛ ײֻ ֤ , ֯ ־ ֯ ֵ֕ , ־ ֕֙ ֯ כӛ , ֯ ׾ִֿ֢֮֯ ֋, ֱ פ ֋Ӆ

ָ ֟, , ظ Ù ָ օ ָ ٻִֵ , ִ֟ , և ֕ ֟ - ֮ ״ֻ֟ , ֮ -ֵ֮֕ , ׻֋ ֯ ظ Ù ߕ ו֋, Ӥ ֮ ״ֻ , ־ և ָ , ֯ Ӳ և , ֮ ֮֜ , ֕ ׸ãן , ִ ֮ ֤, ֟ ֻ , ә׸ָ ֻ , ֱ , ֤ , ֮ ֮ ֕ ָ ִ֕ Ӥ, ֵ֙ Ӥ ײ֮ ֮ ֻ -߿ӛ ֱ , ֮ ֤ ָ ֮ ֛օ ֤ ִֵ ևӤ ֯ߴ ֕֙ Ӭ Ϥ ׻֋ ֺ ֻܵ , ׸ .ߕ. Ӭ Ϥ ֳ , ׻֋ ו֋ ֮ ֮ ִ֯ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

SHRI B.S. GNANADESIKAN (TAMIL NADU): Sir, one hundred fifty years ago, the first train in India moved from Boribandar in Bombay to Thane travelling 34 kilometres. Now, in 2007, we have route mileage of nearly 63,332 kilometres. From 34 kilometres to 63,000 kilometres, the Railways have travelled a long way. Particularly during the last three years, the Railway Ministry, under the able leadership of Laluji and his deputies, has done a remarkable job. Therefore, I have to congratulate the Railway Minister, his MoS and also the dedicated officials behind the Railway Minister. Because of them, these achievements have been made possible. Sir, the technological upgradation, improvement of efficiency, utilisation of information technology, better customer care, mobilisation of resources are the things that the Railway Ministry planned and was able to achieve. Many things have been announced in the Budget which are considered to be pro-poor.

(continued by 4e - gsp)

GSP-AKA/4E/5.20

SHRI B.S. GNANADESIKAN (CONTD.): It includes, particularly, the fifty per cent concession to the students appearing for written examinations, coaches for the physically handicapped, the lower berth reservation for senior ladies; all these things are welcome sign. Sir, the year 2007-2008 has been declared as 'Cleanliness Year'. Sir, you might have seen some railway stations in the rural areas of Tamil Nadu, where there are a number of trees which give a pleasant look, and, where young and the old use to visit in the evenings to spend their time. But, Sir, the condition of the metro stations, particularly, the compartments, is horrible. Therefore, I request the Minister to kindly concentrate on this aspect.

Sir, in my last three speeches during Discussion on Railway Budget, I have repeatedly requested -- even my colleague from Kerala also referred to it -- about the train services from Dindigul to Sabarimala. Though it was not accepted, now, the Railway Minister has partially accepted it and agreed for a survey from Dindigul to Kumuli. I only request the Railway Minister, particularly, the Minister of State from Tamil Nadu, Shri Veluji, to take up this project earnestly, to get the survey done at the earliest, and, to commence the work, at least, for the first phase from Dindigul to Kumuli. Sir, this project was surveyed on 17.9.1997, and, the report was submitted to the Railway Board, but nothing has happened. Now, again, the survey is going to be done. Sir, there was one Minister, Shri O.V. Alagesan from Tamil Nadu, and, only during his time, electrification work was done from Chennai to Villupuram. Now the initiative has been taken, and, electrification work from Villupuram to Trichi is going on. In this Budget, I think, they have included electrification work from Trichi to Madurai. Sir, this project has to be taken up at the earliest. I was also requesting for suburban electric train services from Madurai to Rameswaram, and, from Madurai to Dindigul. If the electrification work is done, that will be easy.

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN - in the Chair.)

Sir, road traffic is increasing year by year. Sir, whether it is four-lane or six-lane, due to the increasing two-wheelers and four-wheelers, it is not going to solve the problem of increasing traffic on the roads. Particularly, in metro cities, the problem of traffic, due to two-wheelers and four-wheelers, is very acute, and, there is a lot of congestion in the metros. I think, in the near future, Railways have to take up more responsibility to solve these problems, and, they have to take up the responsibility of transporting lot of people who undertake long distance journeys. Sir, I also request the Railway Ministry to concentrate on metros to decongest the traffic. For that, I have suggested to set up satellite towns, which are fifty kilometres away from the metro, and, then, connect them with electric trains so that decongestion in the metros is possible. Sir, there are several suggestions which I made last year. Some of them have been implemented only in some electric trains like digital display, provision of lifts and proper lights near reservation charts. The other suggestions like mobile dispensary in the long distance train, a small lending library on payment and provision of ambulance van with public-private partnership has to be implemented by the Railways. Sir, the airlines are also introducing the receptionist-cum-guides at the airports. Likewise, Railways should also have reception guides at the railway stations to guide the passengers so that they can know about the status of their tickets and the location of their coaches. Sir, passenger friendly guides will enhance the image of the railways.

Sir, Dindigul Chamber of Commerce has requested that the Vellodu station, which is four kilometres away from Dindigul, has to be declared as Dindigul South station, and, the present goods shed in Dindigul has to be operated from there. High-speed corridor can be operated between Chennai and Kanyakumari. Sir, the production of first class non-A/C coaches has been stopped. Sir, many people, particularly, people suffering from Asthma and other problems, want to travel in these coaches. I, therefore, request that the production of first class non-A/C coaches, maybe in the modified form, should re-start for their introduction again.

Sir, there was no new line in the year 2005-06 for Tamil Nadu. No doubling work has been implemented. Sir, the MRTS station in Chennai, which was constructed at a huge cost, is lying idle. Therefore, I request the Ministry to coordinate with the other Central Government agencies for putting it to better use.

Sir, I demand for a pilgrimage train and a tourist train, on the lines of 'Palace of Wheels' in Rajasthan. There are a number of beautiful temples in Kanyakumari, Tiruchendoor, hill temples like Tiruthanni, Palani, Nagore for Muslim brothers, and, Velankanni for Christian brothers. Apart from it, there are hill resorts like Kodaikanal, Yercaud and Ooty, and, seashore temple like Mahabalipuram. Therefore, I want a pilgrimage and a tourist train to connect these areas. (Contd. by 4f/sk)

SK-SCH/5.25/4F

SHRI B.S. GNANADESIKAN (CONTD.): Sir, I will talk only on two aspects to complete my speech. Regarding the security problem, the Railways are facing the security problem because of the onslaught of the terrorist attacks on trains. Cameras, dog squads and other things will not solve the problem. The reason is this. We can have all these things in the originating station. But, we cannot have these things in the intermediate stations. I am told that in early 1969 there was a Report of a Committee under the chairmanship of a Railway Minister. The 2007 is not 1969. Therefore, that Report cannot be the basis for taking any action. But, what I suggest is, immediately a Committee has to be constituted to find out a way-out. One way which I want to suggest is, you train all the attendants in AC coaches and appoint some attendants in the non-AC reserved compartments who can have a metal detector so that they can check every passenger in a sensitive area whenever they board the coaches. This is a suggestion which can be implemented immediately without any additional cost. The other things like security agencies, dog squads, cameras, etc., can be improved later on by the Railways. But, manual checking with metal detectors can be implemented by the Railways immediately. Almost all the AC coaches have the attendants. They can appoint attendants in new non-AC reservation compartments also. That can be considered, Sir.

Sir, the other way is, educating the travelling public on involving the porters and T.T.Es on the security aspect. Sir, the statistics show that in 2005-06, there were encounters with criminals on 13 occasions and 6 RPF personnel died and 18 got injured. This is an alarming situation, Sir, which has to be taken care of.

Sir, another thing is, some people have warned that without increasing the axle load, increasing the volume of traffic is violation of recommendation of the Safety Committee. I think, that also has to be looked into by the Railway Minister. I am only pointing out some concerns that have been raised regarding the improvement of track qualities. (Time-bell) I am just finishing it, Sir. Though the accident rate has come down, the number of people killed has increased to 315. This area also requires special attention because the human lives are involved in it. So, the Ministry has to take some urgent action in this regard also.

To conclude, Sir, when the Budget was presented, I went through all the newspapers' headlines and editorials. 'A Steaming Performance', 'Creditable Railway Budget', 'Riding on Success', 'Firmly on Track', 'Rolling Along', 'Staying on Track', 'Rich but Poor', 'A Commendable Exercise, 'Railway Does Well', 'Sustainable Growth', these are the headings on the editorials of all the leading newspapers in India. I don't think I have to add anything more than what has been stated in all these headings of the editorials. Thank you, Sir. (Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri, Rajniti Prasad. You don't have more than three minutes, as accepted by you.

֮֕ן ֤ (ײָ): ֳ֯ן , ֮֯ ִֵ פ, ׻֋ ֯ - ֮־֤ ן ֛ ֮ ֯ ׌ ֮ օ ӡ, ו֮ ָ ֕֙ ֵ ֵօ ׻֋ ֬և , ָ , ׻֋ ֬և ָ , ֳ ï , ֬և ֤ ӟ ֵօ ֲֻ֟ ֻ ֤ ֕֙ , ֕֙ ׻֋ ֬և

ֳ֯ן , ׸š ֤õ ׯ֔ 60 ֮ ל ֕֙ ֵ ֤õ ֟ , ֮ ֟ ָ ֋ ֻ ָ , ֯ ֟

4G/MCM ָ ָ

 

 

MCM-YSR/4G/5-30

֮֕ן ֤ (֟) : ֳ֯ן , ֲ ֕֙ ֟ ִ ֓ ֛ ֜ ֜ օ ָ ֲ ֕֙ ִ ָ ֵ ֜ ֣ ָ ׾֬֋ ״ֻ߅ ֳ֯ן , ֕֙ ß֮ ֵ , ׻֋ ֬և ֡ , ֯ ִ֬ ֕֙ ִ ֕֙ ֟ ָ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ָ ֮ ִ ֮ ִ , ִ֮ ִ օ ָ ֮ ָ ֕֙ ֋ ֆ ߓ ߙ ״ֻ, ֕֙ ֵ? ֯ ֟և ֆ ߓ ߙ ״ֻ ֕֙ ֵ ֮ ֮ ִ ׻֋ ִ ֟ ָ߲ ֵֻ ֵօ

ֳ֯ : ֮֕ן ֤ , ֯ ߮ ״֮֙ ֟ ֋

֮֕ן ֤ :

ֳ֯ : , , ׸ևӛ

֮֕ן ֤ : ָ, ֻ ֟ օ

, ֮ ִ ֻ ֳ ֬և ֻ ֤ ִ , ׻֋ ֬և ֡ և ֤ ֵ ׻ ֟ ֮ ã֮ օ ֯ ߮ ״֮֙ ֤ օ

ֳ֯ן , ִֻ֯ ָ֮ ִ 20-25 ֻ 22 ָ ִ , ֯ ӕ֮ ֮֟ օ ֯ ӕ֮ ִ ֯ ִ֬ ӡ ִֻ֯ ָ֮ ׾֟ , ִ ִ , ֵ ִֻ֯ ֮ ָ֮ , ן ָ֮ , ױ ָ ֟ ֙ ֲ֤ ֜ և ֙ - ׻֋ ӡ ֙ 000 ֵֻ ֋ ӡ ׮־ ֙ ز֤ ִ ָ ֙ Ù֮ ֓ ֻ ֕ ־ ֋, Ӥ ֵ֮ ֋ ֟ Ù֮ ָ ָ ֟օ ׻֋ ׾ֳ ׻֋ ֟ ֛ Ù֮ -֬׮ Ù֮ ָ ֵ֮ ֋ ָ ֟ ֻ֟ , և ָ ֟ , ֈ ָ - ә ֛ פ ֟ ֟ և , ֟ ִ Ù֮ ֤֕ - ә ֛ ֳ֯ן , ֯ ״ , ױ ן ֕֙ ׻֋ ֻ ֤ ֮־֤ (ִ֯) (4H ָ )

GS-VKK/5.35/4H

ֳ֯ : , ֲ֮ ӓ ״֮֙ ִֵ ָ֯ , ֯ ָ ָ֯ ו֋

ֵָ () : ֮־֤ ֳ֯ן օ

THE MINISTER OF OVERSEAS INDIAN AFFAIRS (SHRI VAYALAR RAVI): Sir, I have a point. He has five minutes. But, he has already taken one hour's time from others' time. (Interruptions)

ֳ֯ : ֕ ָ ָ֯ ֕ ָ ֟

ֵָ : ֳ֯ן , ӡ ָ ׮ֵ֤ , ֕֙ ß ֵ , ִ Ͽ ׻֋ , ֮ ֙ 㴲և ߟ ֕ ߟ ֻ ײָ ָ , ֵ֤ ָ֬ ָ ֻ Ͽ פ ß־ , פ ֕֙ ָ ֻ , ִ ֳ ߓ ֻ ָ ֟ 20 ָ ֵ ֱ ָ ָָ ֓ ֕֙ Ӥ ׾ֵ ֵ ־ ׸ִעֵ ֮ ? ָ ָ ָ ֻ ֳ , ִ ן ָ ׾֯ , ™ߵ ֮֟ס ӚӬ֮ , ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ , ָ ֌, ָ ™ߵ ֵ֛ ֕֙ ֕ ֕֙ , ׻֋ ֮ ֻ ֕֙ ֕֙ ™ , ֤ ֤ ֵ֤ ӯ ָָ, ֵ֤ United Progressive Alliance ֮ ևי , ֲ ֟ ֵ֤ ־ , ֤ ֤ ־ ֕֙

, ߟ߿ ָ ֮־֤ פ ֵ ֕ ־ ӡ ֟, ִ֟ ֮֕ ֮־֤ , ֕ ִֵ ָ ־ ׾, ׾ßָ ָ , ֕ ִֵ , ָ֬׿ֻ և ߅ ֮֮ߵ ߟ߿ ָ ֤ ֬և , ײָ ׵֟ ֻ ֤ ㌟ , ֻ ֤ ִֵ, full-timer ־ ؓ֟ ׻֋ ߟ߿ ָ ִֵ פ ..(־֮֬)..

. ִ ӛָ : פ ֯ ㌟ և ..(־֮֬)..

ֵָ : , ӛָ Bhandaryji has to digest this argument. ..(־֮֬).. ֮֮ߵ ߟ߿ ָ ֻ ֤ ײָ ؓ֟ ㌟ פ , ֯ ִ֬ ֤ ִ֮ ֮֟ 2004-05 ֕֙ , 2005-06 ֕֙ , 2006-07 ֕֙ , ֤ ֱ ֻ ֟ ? ֵ֤ ִֵ ֻ ֤ ײָ ؓ֟ ß

, ֱ ָ ׾ֵ ִ ֋ ֲ ֕֙ ָ ֓ , ִֵ 段ֻ ز֤ þ֟ӡ֟ ֮ ָ ָ , ׾ֵ ֵ օ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ִֵ ֤õ ָ ָ , - ֟ օ ֕ ֳ ֯ ִ֬ þ֟ӡ֟ ׮ֵ ֮֕֬ ֯ ֲ֟ ֯ ֕ ֮ ׻֋ ״ֻ֟ þ֟ӡ֟ ֮ ֮ פ ֤ؕ , , ߮, ӓ ֻ ֤, ֮ ֵ, ׻֋ ֳ þ֟ӡ֟ ׮ֵ ֮֕֬ ֯ ֲ֟ ֯ ֮ פ ֮

, ֟ ָָ 880 ֵ և ֮֮ߵ ӡ 606 ֵ פ , ָָ ָ ו֮֟ ֵ , ӡ ֕ ӡ , ָָ , ٟ ֋ (4 ָ ָ)

SC/5.40/4J

ֵָ (֟) : , ָ߲ ֲ ֻ֟ ßֻ ֵ ָ ֮ ֯ ִ ꆸ-״֛ ֯ ׸ ֯ ָ߲ ֕ ֟ և ֯ "ָ߲-" "" ֲ ֮֯ ׻ֵօ ֻ ֤ ָ ִ֣Ԯ ָ ײָ ܵ ӡ ֮ ֻ ֤ ֻ ֛ ָָ ׮ֵ ִ ֮ ִ ֵօ ֕ ֮֯ "" ֲ ׻ֵօ "-֡" ִ , ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ ֯ ݵ , "-֡" ֻ ֙ ֮֯ "" ֲ ֮ ׻ֵ - ֮Ӥ ֟ ֯ ֲ ֮և, ָ߲ ֣ ֕ ֯ ֕ ָ߲ , ֯ ֮ ִ֟ ֟ ָ߲ , ָ߲ ֜ ָ ֮֕ן ֤ - ָ߲ ֮֜, ָ߲ ꆸ ״֛ , ָ ״֛ ֮ ֮ - ָ ֮֕ן ָ߲ ֤ , ָ ֵ ֮֯ , ֲ ָ ֡ ָ ֯ ֻ ָ֬ ָ ֻ ֯ ֻև ֯ ֯ ֻև וִ ֻ ָ֬ , ִ ûָ߯ - ֻ ָ֬ ״ֻ ֯ ִֵ ׸, ֯ ו֋ ..(ִֵ ә) .. , ֯ ֤ ־׵ ֻ ֵ ָ ִ֯ӣ ףֵ ߯߯ ָ ֟ ֵ , ߯߯ ӑן ָ֯ ֮֮ߵ ֻ ֤ ֮ ֕֙ ׻ ײ և ָ֙׿֯ , וִ ״ֻ , ״ֻ 11 , ֻ ׻֮ 11 ָ ֯ ㌟ օ ֯ ָ ָ ׻ ו , 11 ֋ - ׮ , ן ָ ֲ ֤ ..

ֳ֯ : , ִ֯ ׸

ֵָ : ִ ֻ ֮֯ ָ ֕֙ , ֯ ־ ֕֙ - ϟߟ ֟ ֯ ֆ ֋ , , ֤ , ֯ ֕ ߕ ֕ ֋ ֯ ָ ָ ָ ֯ ָ ֆ ָ ֮ ؓן֟ ֯ ֙ ָ ׾ָ ߅ ֯ ߓ ֣ ֆ , ׻֋ ָ ..(־֮֬)..

0 ִ ӛָ : ׾ָ ֤ ָ , ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ : ִ֯ ו֋

ֵָ : ֯ ֮ ֻ..(־֮֬)..

0 ִ ӛָ : ֲֵֻ֮֟ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ : ִ֯ ו֋..(־֮֬)..

ֵָ : ײֻ ִ֣Ԯ , þ֓ ָ ֟ ֻ ߮-ָ ֻ ׻ֵ ָ , ָ ֮ ֻ , ֟ , ָ ָ þ֓ ؓ֟ ֯ ? ֲ ֯ ֱ - ֻ Ù ֵ֤ , , ֛ , ûָ߯ ֲ ֯ ֡ ֲ ֯ ֟ ֓ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ : ꇮ ֮օ ֯ ִ֯ ו֋

ֵָ : ֱև - ֛ ֓ ֟ ӡ , ֯ ֵ ֋ ֟օ ӡ , - ֓ ֟

ֳ֯ : ..(־֮֬)..

ֵָ : ֱև ֯ ֮ ־ ֮ , ֯ ֮ ן ֮ ֯ þ֓ ָ , ָ ו֋ ֯ ִ֣Ԯ ֯ þ֓ ֮և ֯ ִ֮ ָ - ׿ֿ ֱև , ִ ㌟ ׸ ֲֻ֟ ֱև ָ ֯ ϲӬ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ : , ֻ ִ

ֵָ : - ָ߲ ֓ ֛ ֱև ׻֋ ֋ ֯ ֵ, ֵ ֯ ־ , , ֟ ֯ ׾µ ָ ד֋ (4 ָ ֟)

-MKS-TMV-MP/4K/5.45

ֵָ (֟) : ָ ׾֯ ֤õ ֯ ֮־֤ פ , ֯ ֕֙ և ִ֣Ԯ , ֯ ֮־֤ ׻֋ և ָ ..(ִֵ ә).. ֯ ....(־֮֬)... ֯ ־ ևև , ֯ ..(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : , ֯ և ...(־֮֬)...

ֵָ : ֯ ֟և ֣ ־ ևև פ ֯ ָ ֻ֟ ֮ ׾ָ ִ֯ӣ ףֵ , ߮-ָ ֌ֆ օ ֲ ... ֵ ׾ָ , ֮ ִ֯ӣ և * ֮, * ֮ ....(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ : ؛ ׮ֻ ו֋ It will not go on record.

ֵָ : ֯ ָָ ִ֣Ԯ ֯ ? ָ ֯ ָָ ִ֣Ԯ ֯ , ֟ ־ ֋, ֋, ֟ ֮֕ן ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : ....(ִֵ ә)...(־֮֬)...

ֵָ : ָָ ....(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ : , ֯ ך Nothing will go on record. Message from the Lok Sabha. (Interruptions)... Nothing will go on record.

ֵָ :* (ִ֯)

___________________________________________________________

*Not recorded.

MESSAGE FROM LOK SABHA

MOTION RE. ELECTION TO JOINT COMMITTEE

ON OFFICES OF PROFIT

 

SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I have to report to the House the following message received from the Lok Sabha signed by the Secretary-General of the Lok Sabha:-

" I am directed to inform you that Lok Sabha, at its sitting held on Tuesday, the 13th March, 2007, adopted the following motion:-

"That this House do recommend to Rajya Sabha that Rajya

Sabha do elect one Member of Rajya Sabha, in accordance with the system of proportional representation by means of single transferable vote, to the Joint Committee on Offices of Profit in the vacancy caused by the demise of Shri Chittabrata Majumdar, Member, Rajya Sabha and do communicate to this House the name of the Member so elected by Rajya Sabha to the Joint Committee".

 

2. I am to request that the concurrence of Rajya Sabha in the said motion, and also the name of the Member of Rajya Sabha appointed to the Joint Committee, may be communicated to this House".

(Ends)

THE BUDGET (RAILWAYS) 2007-2008

AND

RESOLUTION APPROVING RECOMMENDATIONS

CONTAINED IN FIFTH REPORT OF THE RAILWAY

CONVENTION COMMITTEE (2004) - CONTD.

 

SHRI MOINUL HASSAN (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I rise to express my views regarding the very neglected sector of the Eastern Railway in West Bengal, that is, Sealdah to Lalgola. For the last several years, we have been raising the demand to introduce a morning express train from Sealdah to Murshidabad or Kolkata to Murshidabad. Last time, when I was a Member of the Lok Sabha, I and many other Members of that House raised this demand, and I had raised this issue in this very House also through a Special Mention. Today, again, I raise this issue and demand for an express train from Sealdah to Murshidabad. Murshidabad was the last capital of our country. It was the last capital of the Nawabs. It is very near to Plassey. The last battle was fought there. Murshidabad is a tourist spot. Fifty lakh tourists come to Murshidabad every year from different parts of the country and abroad. This demand for an express train from Sealdah to Murshidabad is a genuine demand. Therefore, I again raise this issue in this august House.

Sir, again, I would like to mention that Murshidabad is a district, which is fast coming up, with an agro-industry base and with 68 per cent minority population. Therefore, I would like to express my concern about this demand again.

Another point is that four or five years ago the then Railway Minister announced two survey works in West Bengal. One is relating to Krishnagar-Karimpur line. I specifically mention this because there was a special paragraph in the Budget Speech about Krishnagar-Karimpur line. Second one is Berhampore to Kandi. But for the last two or three years there was no mention about these lines in the Budget. There is no mention about these lines anywhere in the Railway Budget documents. Today, on this occasion, I would like to know from the Minister about the fate of these surveys. Will they happen? Will they continue? Will they be stopped by the Railway Ministry?

My third point--one of our fellow comrades has also raised it--is relating to doubling of the New Jalpaiguri-Alipur Duar line via Jalpaiguri Road and New Cooch Behar. This line should be doubled. Why should it be doubled? Because it is the main connecting line to the North-East. So, this line should be doubled. That is number one. (Contd. by RG/4L)

RG/5.50/4L

SHRI MOINUL HASSAN (contd.): Also, on this line, gradually, the number of trains is increasing. Hence if doubling work is not taken up on this line, then, this will give rise to difficulties. So, our demand is that doubling work on this portion of the line should be taken up immediately.

My fourth point is this. Sir, so far as the performance of the Railways is concerned, I am not specially mentioning it. We are at the fag end of the discussion, and enough has been said about it. But, if we take the case of the Rajdhani Express, we all have to travel quite frequently by Rajdhani trains. Some of my colleagues here have already mentioned about the quality of food, quality of the bed-rolls, working of ACs in trains, etc. I am not going into the details. But, so far as the time of arrival of trains is concerned, we have a bad experience about it. In fact, yesterday, I came from Kolkata, and the train was more than five hours late. Not only this train, the same is the case with trains between Delhi and Sealdah, Ranchi, Bhubaneswar and Howrah. The trains have not reached in time even on a single day. Last Saturday again, I had this experience when the train reached two hours late. Every time this fear is there as to whether the train would reach at all in time or not. I would urge upon the hon. Minister to address this problem as far as timing is concerned.

Another thing to be mentioned here is the quality of service and performance that we get in the trains. I travel frequently from Kolkata to my native district, Murshidabad. That is an overnight journey. Leave alone the security aspect, but the First Class compartment is not even air-conditioned. I am not even demanding ACs in that compartment, but, there is no tube light even. That is the minimum one can expect. There is no tube light; there is no fan; and we are not provided with a bedroll at the Sealdah station. Several times I have sent this message from Parliament. This is the case with MPs, MLAs and other VIPs who are travelling in this train. I would urge upon the Ministry to attend to these basic requirements. I do appreciate that the Railway Ministry as such is doing very well. But there are some lacunae, as has already been mentioned by Shri Pani and other hon. Members. So far as the issue of private partnership is concerned, we do have our objections. But, at least, the performance part of it should be addressed properly.

With these words, I conclude. (Ends)

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (KARNATAKA): Sir, as assured to you, I will not take more than two minutes.

It is a good Budget and my congratulations to both the Ministers as well as the employees working in the Railways. Having said this, I would like to mention that the Members of Parliament, representing our State, and the former and present Chief Ministers have sent a proposal to the Government of India. They met the hon. Railway Minister and represented their case before him. Unfortunately, gross injustice has been done to the State of Karnataka. As a result, there is widespread discontentment amongst the people there. I don't want to say 'resentment', but the people have a strong feeling that the Central Government is not taking care of the State, and a step-motherly treatment is being meted out to the State of Karnataka. We have had Railways Ministers like Shri T.A. Pai, Shri Jaffer Sharief, who contributed a lot for the development of our State. But, subsequently, we have only been neglected. I would like to ask of the hon. Minister as to how many proposals have been sent by the State Government to the Central Government; I do not want to go into the details. Kindly tell us how many projects have been completed and how many more projects are you going to take up now. I would also like to know whether you have provided sufficient funds and how much fund have you allotted to the State of Karnataka. (Continued by 4M)

4m/5.55/ks-lp

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (CONTD.): I will just give you an example. Take the broad-gauging of the Mangalore-Bangalore railway line. It is now fourteen years and they have not yet completed it. I am giving this example just to show how efficiently the Railways are running. Goods trains are running on that track but no passenger train is running. They give the safety aspect as the reason. Yes, we are also concerned with safety. But, why can't you expedite your work? So, the hon. Railway Minister may kindly reply to this.

With these words, I thank you, Sir. (Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: As Shri Poojary has said, I also want to mention about gauge conversion of the Bijapur-Gadag section. It has taken ten years and it is still not complete.

SHRI R. VELU: Sir, so far as...

SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA: Why do you have to get up every time... (Interruptions)

SHRI R. VELU: No, no. Only one thing.

SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA: No, no. Why do you intervene?

SHRI R. VELU: What is the problem with you? ...(interruptions).. What is the problem?

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: It is not a ping-pong game.

SHRI R. VELU: I have sought the permission of the Chair and the Chair is allowing me ... (interruptions)..

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, what is this? There is no limit. He gets up every time.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: He wants to give some clarification.

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: It is not only for the consumption of Karnataka. It is for the consumption of ... (interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: It is not for me... (interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: No, no. Please, listen to me. I have a small submission. It is not only the meant for Karnataka. When a Member is speaking, he is addressing the Railway Minister and the Railway Minister would give his reply. He should reply to all the questions. Why is he favouring a Member right now?

SHRI R. VELU: I am not favouring ...(interruption)...

SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA: No, what is the necessity? I have never seen this. If every time the Minister of State for Finance dealing with Revenue or the Minister of State for Finance dealing with Banking or Shri P. Chidambaram jumps into the discussion on the General Budget, then the Budget discussion would never be over. He is standing up again and again.

SHRI R. VELU: That is because it is an important thing.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Velu, what is it that you want to say?

SHRI R. VELU: Sir, I agree with what the hon. Member is saying about the Mangalore-Bangalore Section. That is all right. We are already running goods trains there. The Commissioner of Safety has raised a point which is also to be rectified. We are awaiting his clearance. That is one. Secondly, we have also...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Why did you not reply to the questions raised by Shri Pany?...(Interruptions)... Why did you not reply? This is not fair. Certain questions were raised by other Members also. Why did you not reply?

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ahluwalia.

SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA: No, Sir. That is not fair.

. ִ ӛָ : ֳ֬ , ֮֮ ..(־֮֬)..׻ֵ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ : ֯ ך..(־֮֬)..֯ ֮ ֛ ֮ ? Ministers do intervene in between a debate a number of times.

SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA: This is not fair, Sir. The Ruling Party Members are asking questions and he is getting up every time.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No. In the morning, Laluji also intervened. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA: Shri Pany raised a point about Orissa. But he never replied. ...(Interruptions)

SHRI R. VELU: Sir, for Karnataka we have already increased the Budget by 37 per cent this year.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: All right. Mr. Suresh Bhardwaj.

SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA: Now, he should reply to his questions pertaining to Himachal Pradesh also.

ָ֕ (ֻ֓ Ϥ): ֮־֤ ֳ֯ן , ֤ߵ ֻ ֤ ׾ֵ . ׯֻ׮ֵ ߤ ָ ״֡ ֵָ ָٳ֟ ֤ ֮ ׻֋ ֵ ֕֙ ָ ֱ פֵ ֵ ֣ ֣ ִ ֮ ֋ ֕ ֲָ ֻ ֤ ׌ִ֮ ָ ָ ֮ ֕֙ , ß֮ ߴ־֟ Ϥ , ו֮ ߴ֋ ׾֤ ֟ , Ϥ ָ ֤ և (nb/4n ָ ָ)

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