SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (CONTD): Sir, if we see the performance of the Railways, for the last 60 years, the growth is only three per cent. On the other hand, the road transport has grown by nine per cent. Apart from general growth, the network also has not grown as per the expectations. If we see the network growth in the last 60 years, it is only 20 per cent, whereas the road transport has grown by 400 per cent. It indicates that the policy that is being adopted is a defective one. It is not my view. But, it is what planners feel. National Transport Planning Committee was constituted during the year 1980. In 1980, under the guidance of Planning Commission, after reviewing the performance of our railways, it fixed a target that by the year 2000, the rail transport should occupy a share of 70 per cent in the national transport. But, it occupies only 35 per cent share today. We are discussing this Budget in the year 2007. The target was fixed for the year 2000, which was a 70 per cent share of rail transport. That has not been achieved. The share of road transport today is 65 per cent. As per the suggestion of National Transport Planning Committee, unless the rail transport occupies a share of 70 per cent in the national transport, we cannot meet the requirements of the people. But, today, after so many years of planning and expansion, only 35 per cent of rail transport is there. It indicates a clear-cut defect in our policy. Sir, this Budget claims 15 per cent growth over the last three years. Sir, looking at the nine per cent growth in our economy and its impact, if we contain ourselves, if we are self-satisfied with this 15 per cent growth for the last three years, it will be misleading. Sir, in the same period, during this three-year period, the road transport has registered a growth of 18 per cent. What planners decided in 1980 that share of rail transport should be more when compared to road transport, that has not happened. So, it indicates a clear defect in the policy and deficiencies which are very much visible in our planning. Why is this poor growth there? In our General Budget, we want to achieve nine, ten or eleven per cent growth in our economy. Is it possible with this type of growth in railways?

(continued by 2p - gsp)


SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (CONTD.): It is not possible, Sir. Why? Why are we lagging behind? What is the reason behind it? Sir, there are some reasons and we should understand the main reason. Here, in the Budget, some measures have been suggested. Railway freight is one of the cheapest transports. If we compare it to the road transport, it is cheaper than that. In spite of that, the share of the road transport is going up whereas the share of the rail transport is not going up.

Sir, for this, some temporary reasons are given due to which it is lagging behind in growth. There are some defects. For example, till 1995, the boxen wagon was permitted to carry 58 to 60 tonnes. Now, after some efforts, it has been decided to permit it to carry 66 - 68 tonnes. In the last two years, the same boxen wagon has been able to carry ten per cent extra load.

To an extent, these types of measures may be responsible for not achieving the growth. But what is the main reason as to why we are not able to achieve growth in our Indian railways. Sir, to an extent, under utilisation of our capacity may be one of the reasons but it is not the basic reason. The basic reason as to why Indian railways are not able to achieve the targets is to be probed into. Unless we critically analyse this particular aspect, we will be unable to focus our own targets for the coming years. Sir, the main drawback lies with the factors that are related to the investment. The growth of our railways is slow because the investment, which is made in the Railways, is very meagre. This inadequacy has not been addressed even in this Budget. In this Budget, 'dedicated freight corridor' has been proposed. I think, in the last sixty years, this is the first time that such a decision has been taken. The three major issues that are proposed in this Budget are, namely, i) 'dedicated freight corridor' with proposed allocation of Rs. 30,000 crores, ii) upgradation of meter gauge, and, iii) decentralisation of tickets availability.

Sir, if we carefully analyse these three aspects, we are not going to achieve the expected targets. Sir, for Delhi Metro, we could spend Rs. 16,000 crores whereas for the 'dedicated freight corridor' for the entire India, the allocation is Rs. 30,000 crores; Sir, for the entire 'dedicated freight corridor', it is merely Rs. 30,000 crores. I think, it is a very meagre allotment. Sir, for the last two decades, the growth of population in the cities has gone up from 300 to 400 per cent.

(Contd. by 2Q)


SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (CONTD.): So, the urban rail transport is a very big problem. You see how our railway planners took a defective decision in 1986. The Railways took a decision, a very defective decision, according to me. What was that decision in 1986? In the name of shortage of funds with the Railways, the entire urban transport was handed over to the Urban Ministry. Sir, if we see, in the last two decades, whatever the urban transport was there, not even a one per cent growth is there, when the cities have grown up, the population has grown up by 300-400 per cent. So, my submission is, in 1986 the Ministry of Railways had come out with a policy saying that it had no money, it had no funds and it could not undertake the urban transport and it handed over it to the Urban Ministry. Now, what is the Urban Ministry doing? It is throwing thousands and thousands of crores of rupees to the urban transport in the name of Metro or other different names. So, my submission is, inadequate allotment of funds is one of the basic problems that we are facing in the Railways. Sir, if we want to achieve 9 per cent growth in our economy, this Railway Budget cannot discharge the responsibility.

Sir, coming to the other basic issues, my colleagues will speak on other things, I will come to two or three important issues. In this Budget, a very dangerous policy has been proposed. We have not seen in the last sixty years such a dangerous policy proposed in the Railways. What is that policy? That is public-private partnership. We have seen privatisation in Railways and we can understand it in case of sweeping on platforms, construction of bridges or some buildings. Earlier also this type of privatisation was there. But, the new and the very dangerous thing in this Railway Budget is that the works of safety-related areas have also been entrusted to the private people. Our party cannot accept this policy. Thousands and thousands of workers are thrown out of the work in Kerala and in Andhra Pradesh. I have seen in Andhra Pradesh 10,000 people were thrown out of the work because the catering service that had been privatised. And, what does this catering policy tell us? The food that is supplied in the Railways is worst type of food. The cost has gone up by one hundred per cent. Not only that, Sir, maintenance has also been privatised. Earlier, only construction activities used to be privatised. Now, the maintenance is also given. Even signal maintenance is given for privatisation; even track maintenance is also given for privatisation. This is very dangerous, Sir. Our Railway Minister should take note of it. We did not come across in the earlier days...

SHRI R. VELU: We are not giving traffic maintenance.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: We know that a number of accidents are taking place. Even then, safety-related issues have been handed over to the private parties. Earlier, we did not come across so many accidents. Why are so many accidents taking place nowadays? (Contd. by 2r-ysr)


SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (CONTD.): Sir, our Minister says the track maintenance is not handed over to the private contractors. I am here to prove it. I can prove it that it is happening in Mumbai. Sir, in Guntur Division, in Andhra Pradesh, so many gangman posts are vacant. There are thousands of backlog posts. In Secunderabad, out of 926 sanctioned posts for drivers, only 716 are working for years together. Every driver is forced to work for 16-18 hours for more than 20 days. Their wives come to us weeping that they are unable to meet their husbands. Their children tell us that they are unable to meet their fathers. They come home only for three or four days in a month. The number of trains has gone up. But the recruitment is stopped. So many backlog posts are there. One day, during Dussehra festival, some drivers applied for leave. All the five drivers were suspended in Kazipet Division. Only for applying leave, they were suspended, Sir.

Sir, I want to know whether maintenance of coaches is not related with safety. Maintenance of bogies, locos, and bridges is given to the private contractors.

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SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, my submission is that privatisation is a very serious thing. Sir, we are happy that freight charges have not been enhanced. No doubt about it. But what about other policies that are being floated in this Budget? Shortage of gangman is there. Tracks are not properly repaired. For that reason, accidents are taking place. My submission to the hon. Minister is that all the backlog posts should be filled. I request the hon. Minister to submit it in Parliament how many posts are lying vacant and for how many years. I am requesting for this in this House. How many posts are vacant in the Secunderabad Division? The number of trains is going up. The track distance also has gone up. But so many posts are vacant. Even some trains run without a guard. It is a very dangerous thing.

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SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, only last thing. It is about the investment criteria.

Members of Parliament from Andhra Pradesh belonging to different political parties went to meet the Prime Minister and gave representation. So much discrimination is practised against Andhra Pradesh. Our share of profit from Secunderabad is Rs.1350 crore. But we were given only Rs.250 crore. Not only that, Sir, an impression is there that the Railways have got a pacca investment criterion. Rules are there. But if they want to sanction any project, they distort the figures. Sir, today people are feeling that their due share is not given to them. It is not only from one State. It may not be just from Bihar or from other one or two States. But people from other States are feeling that their due share is not given to them. There are pacca investment criteria in the Railways. The Railway Ministry is bending to the political pressure and is not doing justice to the entire nation. (Contd. by RSS/2S)


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SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Sir, these are very important points...(Interruptions)...

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SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, I am concluding. Sir, another important point is, the optimal utilisation of congested sections. Sir, if we critically analyse ourselves, we will find that our strength lies in seeing our weakness. If we can see our weakness, there comes our strength. I appeal to the hon. Minister to see the weakness, take the criticism from all corners, and without any bias, try to come to some understanding. My optimal utilisation of congested section is, resorting to the bypass lines and improving the loopholes. If such measures are taken immediately, we can improve congestion to a great extent. Many alternative routes, like Nagpur-Adilabad route, can be an alternative route for congested routes.

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SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Viability gap funding also is provided by the Ministry of Urban Development. My submission is that the Prime Minister's Office should review the 1986 decision, entrusting the urban transport to the Ministry of Urban Development, and it should be given back to the Railways, and instead of spending Rs. 16,000 crores, if some little amount of money is allocated, with that money, we can improve the urban transport. This is very much needed. Thank you very much. (ends)

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA (TAMIL NADU): Thank you, Sir, for giving me this chance. Sir, the 4th Railway Budget, presented by the Congress-led Coalition Government, the UPA Government, brought a little focus, showing some exposure like not raising the freight charges, with so many demerits and imbalances. Sir, anyway, there is no hike in the fare, and we must appreciate this fact. Further, a reduction of Rs. 1/- in daily ticket fare has been announced. This is also a welcome measure. But, on the other side, instead of increasing the seats in the second-class sleeper category, they have increased the number of seats in the tatkaal category. For the tatkaal category, they are charging Rs. 150/- more than the ordinary ticket, and the poor people are forced to purchase the tickets in the tatkaal category. This has been done because they want to balance the freight. They have not increased the fares, but they have to increase the charges on tatkaal tickets, because by doing so, they are balancing the income of the Railways. So, I request the Minister that the charges in respect of tatkaal tickets should also be reduced, and more second-class sleepers should be provided than the tatkaal system.

An announcement has been made in the Railway Budget that there will be e-ticketing in petrol pumps, post offices, ATM centres, hand-held computers for the on-the-spot reservation. In this regard, I would like to submit that it is very helpful to the educated people, urban people, who are going to the ATM centres and post offices. But, what about the rural people? How will they get the reservation? How will this new system reach the poor people and how will they get the reservation? In this regard, I would like to inform this House one thing. At times, even the Members of Parliament are not able to establish their contact with the Railways when there is urgency. The Railways are having their own telephones. When the Members of Parliament are not able to establish their contact on the telephone lines... (contd. by 2t)


SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA (CONTD.): ....when even the Members of Parliament are not able to get the line, how can the poor people or the ordinary people get the line? So, I draw the attention of the Railway Minister towards it and request him that the modes of providing this type of service and information should be increased. I also request that to help the poor people to get tickets easily, an alternative reservation system should be introduced in villages and rural areas. Instead of providing passengers amenities in trains and also at railway stations, the proposed huge investment in container operations only shows that the Railways, nowadays, is giving importance to the business entrepreneurs than providing service to the public because they want to earn more money for the organisation. But, at the same time, we have to give importance to providing service to the public also.

Here, I appreciate the efforts made by the Railway Ministry that it has given an invitation to all entrepreneurs for entering into a long-term service agreement with the Railways. In the Budget speech, the Railway Minister has mentioned that in respect of cement and steel, they have invited heavy industry people for entering into long-term agreements. Sir, various car companies, IT companies have been set up in Tamil Nadu. I request the hon. Minister to invite, on the same lines, those companies for entering into long-term agreements. That would help increase the revenue of the Railways, and also of the State Government.

And also, Sir, the Railway Minister, Laluji, has told the press that Indian Railways was earning profits, and he would never allow anyone to privatise this Organisation. Before the press, he has given such type of report or version, but, as was, very seriously, mentioned by Madhuji, and after seeing the report, I also stress the point that entering into agreements with private persons will not help the poor people, the passengers and the travellers, and they are very much concerned about their own profits. What stand is the Government going to take? In the Budget, they are saying like this, but, before the press, Laluji has said that they won't allow private parties to enter into the Railways. So, I would like to know what is the stand taken by the Government.

Sir, Laluji has also mentioned about having 700 additional coaches in popular trains. And also, he is going to further have 800 extra carriages in this financial year. But he has also informed us, in this regard, about the length of existing platforms. In addition, he is going to increase the number of coaches. But that will create a huge congestion at the stations. To extend the length of the existing platforms, what steps is the Railway Ministry going to take? And also, for having reservation in ordinary sleeper coaches and other reserved coaches, there are long queues on ordinary days. There is a deficiency of water. People are suffering. Mere introducing new trains and increasing the coaches is not going to help. The Ministry should take necessary steps to help the travellers. Sir, here, I would like to mention one thing. In the Budget speech, the Minister has said that they are going to have 800 coaches. Apart from that, the basic amenities also should be provided. We know that the Railway Ministry is doing its best for providing maximum comfort to its travellers. I would like to put particular stress on this point, Sir.

Sir, I appreciate the efforts made for providing reservation in lower berths for ladies. Being a lady, I appreciate the provision of reservations made for senior citizens and disabled persons. I appreciate the concessions given to students during the examination days. Special coaches for handicapped persons, introduction of vendor's coaches, I appreciate his efforts made for providing all these things.

(Contd. by TMV/2U)


SHRIMATI S. G. INDIRA (CONTD.): But there is some imbalance. Great injustice is done to Tamil Nadu. The Chennai-Mumbai corridor has not been included in the first phase. It is going to be taken up in the second phase. At the same time, I appreciate the Ministry for taking up the Tiruchi-Madurai electrification in the first phase. I congratulate the Minister in this regard. I request the hon. Minister that, in the same way, the Chennai-Mumbai corridor has to be included in the first phase.

Regarding new trains, he has informed that five new trains have been introduced in Tamil Nadu. But only one new train has been introduced. I would like to inform the House that Coimbatore-Nagarcoil train is the only new train. People are going to get the benefit of Bhubaneswar-Rameswaram, Chennai-Egmore-Nagore and Chennai-Egmore-Rameswaram trains only after gauge conversion. What is the time-limit for gauge conversion? When are you going to finish the gauge conversion? When are the people going to be benefited by these trains? So, only one new train has been given to Tamil Nadu, that is, Coimbatore-Nagarcoil.

There is a long-pending request for doubling the lines. Now you have given priority to doubling the line from Dindigul to Madurai. But our request is for doubling the line from Madurai to Chennai. It would help avoid congestion. In all meetings and everywhere I have been raising this point. I have been speaking on the Railway Budget for the last four or five years. I have been stressing on this point of doubling the line from Madurai to Chennai which will be helpful to the passengers and to avoid congestion. So, it must be given priority.

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair.)

In this Railway Budget a provision for doubling 700 kilometres has been made and doubling of 400 kilometres is yet to be finished. I request the Ministry to include the doubling of Madurai-Chennai line in this 700 kilometres. The gauge conversion work in Tiruchi-Pudukottai, Tiruchi-Manamaduria, Pudukottai-Karaikudi and Virudhachalam-Salem-Cuddalore sections is going on. Here I want to know about the new proposals and the time-frame. The allotment is very meagre. The long-pending demands for new lines will not be met because of this meagre allocation or deficiency in allocation. The Minister of State for Railways, Veluji, is from Tamil Nadu. He should give priority to all this new line from Karaikudi. So many passengers are coming from there.

I would like to mention here that you have given concession to steel, cement, cardamoms, etc. Bodinaikanur produces a lot of cardamom. The road transport operators are transporting cardamom and earning revenue. There is a railway line. But it is metre gauge. I would like to inform the House that it takes three-and-a-half hours to four hours to reach from Bodi to Madurai by this metre gauge line. But by road transport, by bus, people can reach Madurai within one-and-a-half hours. So, they prefer bus. The officials who go for inspection, etc., inform that it is not feasible and there are not much passengers. But the reason is that it takes a longer time. There is plenty of cardamom. By transporting cardamom the railways can earn revenue.

I must appreciate Veluji for holding a meeting in Chennai and asking all the Members of Parliament from Tamil Nadu to inform him about their grievances and demands. He has given a new line from Dindigul to Kumili. But the problem is that no fund has been allocated. He said that they were going to conduct a survey. It has been delayed for the last 25 years for want of survey. A survey has already been done up to Bodinaikanur. So, the remaining survey should also be done immediately. A lot of people are going to Sabarimala by road by this route. It will be helpful to the people who are going to Sabarimala and also earn revenue for the railways. (Contd. by VK/2W)


SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA (CONTD): Sir, one train, Shri Velu knows it, from Egmore to Erode, then extended to Kovai is very helpful for the people of Thirupur area because there are so many industries. So many people go to Thirupur area. Just three-four days ago, I saw on the television that people were protesting and sitting on dharna on the railway line. Actually, this train is very helpful to the labour class. Now it has been extended to Mangalore. You can extend it to any place, but it should reach the Thirupur area on time.

Sir, I would like to get an assurance from the hon. Minister regarding the Salem Division. The Minister has informed us that on 14th April they are going to have a function at the Salem Division. Sir, on 2.3.2007, the hon. Member, Shri T.T.V. Dhinakaran raised a question about the Salem Division. On the same day, Shri K.E. Ismail also raised a question about the Salem Division. The Ministry has informed that the present length of rail network under the Palakkad Division is 1,132 kilometres. The length of the rail route proposed to be removed from the Palakkad Division is 623 kilometres. There is no specified minimum length for a route, for a division. Sir, I would like to make a request to the hon. Minister that Coimbatore-Thirupur-Erode section must be in the Salem Division because so many people are....(Interruptions). It is my right.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: That is her demand. Why are you worried? (Interruptions). It is her demand. Whatever you want to say, you can say. I cannot stop her from saying what she wants to say. (Interruptions).

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: Sir, I am demanding it because you are not fulfilling the long-pending aspirations of the people of the Salem Division in Tamil Nadu. (interruptions). So I would like to have Coimbatore, Erode, Thirupur under the Salem Division. Sir, they can ask for anything. This is my right.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Don't quarrel. It is not the Cauvery issue.

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: Sir, I am not asking how Thiruvannamalai- Nagarcoil comes under Thiruvananthapuram. A new division is going to be created. Therefore, I am asking for it. The Minister has informed that there is no limitation of kilometres. Anyway, it is the aspiration of the people that Coimbatore-Erode should be included in the Salem Division.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There is one more speaker from your party. You must give some time to him also.

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: There should be some grace to lady Members. Sir, my next point is about EQ release from Chennai, Madurai and Trichy. If we send a requisition, the Emergency Quota is not released. This is the major problem. When we give it to the people who come to us, the Emergency Quota is not released. This is happening every day. The concerned officer does not mind the request. We have to shout at the officer. In order to avoid this, you make arrangement for a separate phone in the EQ section and one officer should be there to attend to our calls. (Contd. by 2X)


SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA (contd.): My another request is that there should be escalators built at the Madurai Station. This will be very helpful to a large number of people, especially, the old age people. Another thing is, as Madhuji mentioned, there are about 8,000 vacancies to be filled. If these vacancies are filled, it will give job opportunities to so many people.

Then, Sir, coming to my constituency, -- it is a personal request I am making -- you have included Madurai-Karaikudi as a new line, and I am thankful to the Minister for this. But you have also mentioned that you would be having a survey on this. I request the hon. Minister that the survey should be undertaken immediately because he is well aware that the famous granite unit at Keezhavalavu area is situated there, and the road transport is enjoying the full benefit. By having a new line there, the Railways can get that revenue. It will also be helpful to the people coming to that place, as the famous temples of Pillaiyarpatti and Kumarankudi are situated in that line. People from several parts of India are coming there, and it will be very much helpful to them. This is my personal request. Immediate survey should be undertaken, and the allocation should be made at the earliest.

Finally, Sir, I am thankful to the hon. Minister for allocating Rs.715.52 crores for Tamil Nadu in this Budget. An amount of Rs.70 crores has been allocated for doubling work between Dindigul and Madurai. Here, I would request the hon. Minister to extend this doubling work from Madurai to Chennai. Another Rs.30 crores has been allocated for gauge conversion from Dindigul to Coimbatore. Also, Sir, the survey on the Bodinaikanur should be completed immediately. Only then we will have the proposed broadgauge line.

Sir, thank you very much for having given me this opportunity.


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MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Except what Shri Motiur Rahman says, nothing will go on record.

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ןֈ ֮ (֟): ָ ָ ә ָ ֬׸ ֵ ֵ ָ ã ֙ ֻ ֯ ԓ׸ ֻ, ֟ ֻ ָ , ׻ ֮ן ־ ,


* Not recorded.

ָ ָߵ ֮ ֵ֜ ו ״ן ֱ ֣ ׮֕ ֣ ֮ ֟ , ֟-֟ ִ֬ ֵ ֮ ֻ ִ ֮ ֋ ־֛ ײ̮֕ ֡ ֲ ֻ ϲӬ֮ ֮ ָ ֋, ֲ ֻ ָ ֻ ֮ ֋ ֯ ־ֲ ? ֯ , ו ֜ ׻֋ ָ ׮־֙ ֵ , ו ֯ ֻ֮ ...(־֮֬)

פ , ֲ ָߵ ֙׸ וֻ ߮ וֻ ֻכ ׮ֵ ֵ ָ֕ ֋, ֕֙ Ӹ ָ ׾ֿ ֻ פ ֵ ֳ ׾ֿ֟֋ ֕֙ , ֕֙ , ֻ ֤ , ֕ סֵ , ־ ֤׬׸ ו֮֟ ָ߱ ֋ ״ֻ- ־ և ֮ ֵ , ֟

֕֙ ֻײֵ ֕֙ ֮ ֵ 20,000 ֵ ן ָ ֻ ֤ פ ֕ , Դָ֤֮ Ԛ ӳ־ ָ߮ ָؙ 79% ֜ פօ 667 ״׻ֵ֮ ֮ 726 ״׻ֵ֮ ׸ ֤֮ ֵ ָ֬ ָÙ ֯ כ ׫ߵ ֋ ן ֡ ֵ և ֲ ֈ ֲ ָ ӡ ֕֙ ß , ֲ ֵ ֺ ֜ , ֤ ֮֮ ֯ ׻֋ ל ֟ ӡ ֲ ֕֙ , ׻֋ ֋ ֮֙ ִ օ ֛ ֟ ?

ָÙ כ ָ֟ ָÙ ֕ 20% և, ϣִ ֣ ׫ߵ ֋ ֿ: 6% 4% ևԅ ֟և ֕ , ӡ օ ֋ כև ûָ߯, ָָ ֣ יָ ֋ , -י ָ ׻֋ ֮ ֻ , ִ ֮֟ ׻֋ ָ֟ ׫ߵ ָ֧ ֮ ֻ ߙ ־֮֬, ֲ ֵ ֋ ֯ ָ߲ ו֋ ״֕֕ ֮ ֤ , ִ֟ ׻֋ ֮ ֻ ָ ָ , ֻ ֤ ָ߲ ֤ ֲ ֚ ָ ߱ , ֕ ׻֋ ֮ ӟִ֕ פ ֻ ֤ , ָ ׌ ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן: ןֈ ֮ , ֯ ֙ 23 ״֮֙ , ִ ֯ ӛָ ׻֋ ֮ ״֮֙ ?

. ִ ӛָ: ֮ ו֋, ָ

ֳ֯ן: ֋, ׻֋ , ...(־֮֬)

. ִ ӛָ: ָ, ֯ ָ ָ - ״֮֙ ֮ ׻֋ ״ֻ ֋

ןֈ ֮: ֯ ָ ֋ ֮ ֯ ִֵ ׻֋ ֋ ...(־֮֬) ϟ և ֛ 6 ָ֟ ׫ߵ כ ־֮֬ ֣ ֯׸ ݬ ׾ֆ ׻֋ ־ã ָ ֕ օ ִֻ ָ 3A/MCM ָ ָ


ןֈ ֮ (֟) : ׸š ׸ 45 ֆ ׻֋ ꆸ ֣ ׮׿֟ ־֮֬ ԓָ ֵ֮ ֵ, ӑ ֵ ܵ ָ ׻֋ ٣ֵ ׫ߵ 50 ןֿ֟ י ָ߲ ֓ ָ߲ ָ , Ӿ ָ ֜ ֵ , ֕ ә ׻֋ ֟ ֯ ֻ ֤ ֮ ו֮ ׻֋, ָ߲ ׻֋ ֮ ִ ֕ ָ߲ ֓ ß֮ ә ָ ֯ ֛ ֻײ

ֳ ֕ ׬ ׬ ֋ ϵ 8 ָ߲ ֻ 23 כ ׾ßָ 14 כ ר 785 ״׻ֵ֮ ֤֮ ֣ 71218 ֋ ֵ֟֟ ִ֤ ׮֬׸ ײ֟ 20 ָ ֋ 40 ָ ֋ ֮֜ ִ ו ָ և ִ֮ ׸֟Ԯ, ׾֪ן ׯ֔ ֻ ֮ ֳ ֮ ֮և ִ֟ ו ִ ו֮֟ ׌ כߕ֮ ִ ֱ֟ ֯ ֻ ֛ ר ו և ָ ֮ ׻֋ ֛ ָָ ֵ ߕֻ ֛ 5 ןֿ֟ ָ ׻֋ ֻ ֵָ, ֵָ ֛ 6 ןֿ֟ ֻ ֛ ִ֟ 220 ֙ 210 և ־ã ß ß ׻֋ ֟ ־֮ ָ ֮֓ פ ִ֟ ֲ ӡ ߕ , ׻ֵ ִ և ׻֋ ו֮֟ ֮־֤ פ ֋ ӡ ׾ֳ ִָ ֮֮ ו֮֟ ׿ֿ כ ߛ ׮ִ օ ׾ ßָ Ù֮ ׮ִ , ־ ֬׮ ׻֋ ֛ ֣ ֮֋ ֮և 000 ִ֬ וÙ ֈ ֮֮ ֮ ֮և


ֵָ : 000 ..........(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ : ֯ ך ߅

ֵָ : *

ֳ֯ : Nothing will go on record. ֋, ָ ָ״ֿ֮ ָ-ָ ֮ ......(־֮֬)

ןֈ ֮ : ֲ ָ߲ ָ߱ ֻ֮ ָ߲ ׾ָ ֙ ֤......(־֮֬)


* Not recorded.

ֳ֯ : ֟ ׮֋, ֯ ֮ ֟ ֟ ׸

ןֈ ֮ : ֻ ֤ ֤֕ ֤ - ִ ֟ ߅ Ӭ ֤֕ ִָ פ, ԤԮ פ, ԓ֮ Ӭ ֟ Ӭ ֮֮ ֻ ִָ ֻ Գ״ ֮ ״ ִ֯ ֻ ֵ ן ִ ֡ ֮ ֮֯ פ פ ߮ ָ פ ָ ָ Ù ֯ן , ݵ ֟ ߮ ә ֮ ָ ֟ (3B ָ ֿ:)