PREVIOUS HOUR

KSK/ASC/12.00/1N

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair)

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

SHRI A.K. ANTONY: Sir, I lay on the Table a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(i) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Defence, Department of Defence Production) and the Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(ii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Defence, Department of Defence Production) and the Garden Reach and Shipbuilders and Engineers Limited (GRSE), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(iii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Defence, Department of Defence Production) and the Bharat Earth Movers Limited (BEML), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(iv) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Defence, Department of Defence Production) and the Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(v) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Defence, Department of Defence Production) and the Mishra Dhatu Nigam Limited (MIDHANI), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(vi) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Defence, Department of Defence Production) and the Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(vii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Defence, Department of Defence Production) and the Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL), for the year 2007-2008.

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                                    S.O. 14 (E) dated the 8th January, 2007, extending the period from 'six months' to 'one year' from the date of commencement of the Act for the purposes of making a Scheme, under sub-section (1) of section 4 by the State Governments.

 

                                    S.O. 323 (E) dated the 6th March, 2007, publishing the National Rural Employment Guarantee Act, Schedule I Amendment Order, 2007.

 

                                    S.O. 324 (E) dated the 6th March, 2007, publishing the National Rural Employment Guarantee Act, Schedule II Amendment Order, 2007.

SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI: Sir, I lay on the Table

I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting Notification F. No. 17/4/06-07 dated the 5th January, 2007, publishing the Press Council (Procedure for Inquiry) (Amendment) Regulations, 2006, under sub-section (2) of section 26 of the Press Council Act, 1978, together with delay statement.

II.(1) A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the National Film Development Corporation (NFDC), Mumbai, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Corporation.

(2) Statement (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above.

III. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(a) Annual Accounts of the Prasar Bharati (Broadcasting Corporation of India), New Delhi, for the year 2005-2006, and the Audit Report thereon, under sub-section (4) of section 21 of the Prasar Bharati (Broadcasting Corporation of India) Act, 1990.

 

(b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

SHRI OSCAR FERNANDES: Sir, I lay on the Table

I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Labour and Employment, (Directorate General of Employment and Training), Notification G.S.R. 214 (E), dated the 21st March, 2007, publishing the Apprenticeship (Amendment) Rules, 2007, under sub-section (3) of section 37 of the Apprentices Act, 1961.

II. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Labour and Employment, Shram aur Rozgar Mantralaya, (Coordination Section), Notification G.S.R. 280 (E), dated the 11th April, 2007, publishing the Industrial Employment (Standing Orders) Central (Amendment) Rules, 2006, under sub-section (3) of section 15 of the Industrial Employment (Standing Orders) Act, 1946.

III. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Outcome Budget for the year 2007-08 of the Ministry of Labour and Employment.

SHRI SHRIPRAKASH JAISWAL: Sir, I lay on the Table

I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Home Affairs, Notification G.S.R. 154 dated the 25th June, 2006, publishing the National Security Guard (Group B Non-Gazetted Posts) Recruitment Amendment Rules, 2006, under sub-section (3) of section 139 of the National Security Guard Act, 1986.

II. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Home Affairs Notification G.S.R. 198 (E) dated the 15th March, 2007, publishing the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force, Veterinary Cadre (Group 'C') Recruitment (Amendment) Rules, 2007, under sub section (3) of section 156 of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force Act, 1992.

III. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Home Affairs Notification S.O.3678 (E) dated the 16th September, 2006, publishing the Border Security Force (Amendment) Rules, 2006, under sub-section (3) of section 141 of the Border Security Force Act, 1968.

IV. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Home Affairs, Notification G.S.R. 4 dated the 28th December, 2006, publishing the Corrigendum to Notification G.S.R. 69 dated the 2nd March, 2002, by substituting certain entries in the original Notification.

V. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Home Affairs, under sub-section (3) of section 18 of the Central Reserve Police Force Act, 1949:

 

                                                                        G.S.R. 220 dated the 16th September, 2006, publishing the Central Reserve Police Force Subordinate Ranks (Signal) Recruitment (Amendment) Rules, 2006.

 

                                                                        G.S.R. 230 dated the 23rd September, 2006, publishing the Central Reserve Police Force, Group 'B' and Group C (Radio Operator, Crypto, Technical, Radio Fitter, Draughtsman) (Non-Gazetted) Male or Female Ranks (Signals) Recruitment Rules, 2006.

SHRI E.V.K.S. ELANGOVAN: Sir, I lay on the Table

I (1). A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(a) Thirty-eighth Annual Report and Accounts of the National Textile Corporation Limited (NTC), New Delhi, and its subsidiary companies for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Corporation.

(2). Statement (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Carpet Export Promotion Council (CEPC), Noida, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

                      Review by Government on the working of the above Council.

 

(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

DR. AKHILESH DAS: Sir, I lay on the Table

I (1). A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(a) Thirtieth Annual Report and Accounts of the Kudremukh Iron Ore Company Limited (KIOCL), Bangalore, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Company.

(2). Statement (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

 

(i) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Steel) and the Sponge Iron India Limited, for the year 2007-2008.

 

(ii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Steel) and the Kudremukh Iron Ore Company Limited, for the year 2007-2008.

 

(iii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Steel) and the Ferro Scrap Nigam Limited, for the year 2007-2008.

 

(iv) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Steel) and the MSTC Limited, for the year 2007-2008.

 

(v) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Steel) and the Manganese Ore (India) Limited, for the year 2007-2008.

 

(vi) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Steel) and the Hindustan Steelworks Construction Limited (HSCL), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(vii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Steel) and the Rashtriya Ispat Nigam Limited, for the year 2007-2008.

 

(viii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Steel) and the National Mineral Development Corporation Limited (NMDC), for the year 2007-2008.

SHRI ASHWANI KUMAR: Sir, I lay on the Table

I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Commerce and Industry, (Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion) Notification S.O. 355 (E) dated the 13th March, 2007 amending Notification S.O. 477 (E), dated the 25th July, 1991, by substituting certain entries in the original Notification, under sub-section (2H) of section 29B of the Industries (Development and Regulation) Act, 1951.

II. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Commerce and Industry, (Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion) Notification G.S.R. 46 (E), dated the 17th March, 2007 publishing the Indian Boiler (Amendment) Regulations, 2007, under sub-section (2) of section 28 of the Indian Boilers. Act, 1923.

III (1). A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:

 

(a) First Annual Report and Accounts of the Jammu and Kashmir Development Finance Corporation Limited (JKDFC), Jammu, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.

 

(b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report.

(2). Statement (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above.

SHRI JAIRAM RAMESH: Sir, I lay on the Table

I (1). A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (3) of section 21 and sub-section (4) of section 18 of the Agricultural and Processed Food Products Export Development Authority Act, 1985:

 

(a) Annual Report of the Agricultural and Processed Food Products Export Development Authority (APEDA), New Delhi.

 

(b) Annual Accounts of the Agricultural and Processed Food Products Export Development Authority (APEDA), New Delhi, for the year 2005-2006, and the Audit Report thereon.

 

(c) Review by Government on the working of the above Authority.

(2) Statement (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above.

II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (3) of section 22 and sub-section (4) of section 19 of the Tobacco Board Act, 1975:

 

(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Tobacco Board, Guntur, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Board.

III. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers:

(i)

(a)

Forty-first Annual Report and Accounts of the Indian Council of Arbitration (ICA), New Delhi, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.

 

(b)

Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above

(ii)

(a)

Forty-first Annual Report and Accounts of the Federation of Indian Export Organisations (FIEO), New Delhi, for the year 2005-2006, together with the Auditors Report on the Accounts.

 

(b)

Review by Government on the working of the above Federation.

 

(c)

Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above.

 

(iii)

Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Commerce and Industry, Department of Commerce) and the PEC Limited, for the year 2007-2008.

 

(iv)

Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Commerce and Industry, Department of Commerce) and the State Trading Corporation of India Limited (STC), for the year 2007-2008.

 

(v)

Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Commerce and Industry, Department of Commerce) and the India Trade Promotion Organization (ITPO), for the year 2007-2008.

 

 

 

 

 

(vi)

Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Commerce and Industry, Department of Commerce) and the MMTC Limited, for the year 2007-2008.

(Ends)

LEAVE OF ABSENCE

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I have to inform hon. Members that a letter has been received from Shri Keshubhai S. Patel stating that he is unable to attend the House as he has to go abroad. He has, therefore, requested for a grant of leave of absence from 7th May,2007, till the end of current session of Rajya Sabha.

Does he have the permission of the House to remain absent from 7th May, 2007, till the end of the current session of Rajya Sabha?

(No hon. Member dissented)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Permission to remain absent is granted.

I also have inform hon. Members that a letter has been received from Shri Shyam Benegal stating that he has been invited as a short-term Scholar at the University of Washington, Seattle, USA. He has, therefore, requested for grant of leave of absence from 3rd May till the end of the current session of the Rajya Sabha.

Does he have the permission of the House to remain absent from 3rd May, 2007, till the end of the current session of Rajya Sabha?

(No hon. Member dissented)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Permission to remain absent is granted.

Now, we will take up Special Mentions, Shri B.K. Hariprasad....(Interruptions).

SHRI PRAVEEN RASHTRAPAL: Sir, please, let the House know as to what decision has been taken on discussing the issue of Gujarat and Nandigram in the House. What has been decided inside? Please, inform the House.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: A meeting will be held and it will be decided. Decision on all the Zero Hour mentions will be taken by the leaders in a meeting to be held at 2.30 p.m.....(Interruptions).

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Yesterday, hon. Chairman gave a ruling from the Chair. He said, "first-come-first serve....(Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ahluwalia, you were part of the decision which was taken in the morning. I request you not to raise that. It will be decided at 2.30 p.m....(Interruptions). Mr. Narayanasamy, you were also a part of the decision.....(Interruptions).

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, the entire country is discussing about Gujarat....(Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Hariprasad, please, go ahead.

SPECIAL MENTIONS

DEMAND FOR RELASE OF CENTRAL SHARE

FOR ONGOING SGSY PROJECTS IN KARNATAKA

SHRI B.K. HARIPRASAD (KARNATAKA): Sir, the Government of Karnataka has submitted the following projects under the Swarna Jayanthi Gram Swarozgar Yojana aimed to promote self-employment for the rural poor:

(i) Creation of alternative livelihood for BPL families in CN Halli Taluk, Tumkur District....(Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: At 2.30 p.m., it will be decided by the leaders.

SHRI B.K. HARIPRASAD: (ii) Creation of rural marketing infrastructure facilities in Chamarajnagar District.

(iii) Creation of employment in agriculture sector for BPL families in Challakere Taluk of Chitraduraga district....(Interruptions).

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SHRI B.K. HARIPRASAD: (iv) Promote dairy development in Bangalore rural district.

(v) Promote dairy development and marketing facilities in Bangalore urban district.

(vi) Development of infrastructure for RUDSET Institute Centre in Dakshina Kannada District.

(vii) Assistance for Deshpande Rural Development Training Institute, Haliyal (Uttar Kannada District).

(viii) Promotion of dairy in Mysore-Chamarajnagar, Bellary Uttar Kannada, Davangere and Belgum Districts.

(ix) Rehabilitation of Devadasis in Bellary district.

I urge upon the Centre to accord approval for the above proposals and release its share to the State Government from the current Central Budget. (Ends) (followed by 1o - gsp)

GSP-LT/12.05/1O

DEMAND FOR PROVISION OF STOPPAGE OF AZAD HIND

EXPRESS AND HATIYA KURLA EXPRESS AT BATAPURA

IN CHHATTISGARH

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FLEECING OF PASSEGERS IN

THE NAME OF 'TATKAL' RESERVATION BY RAILWAYS

SHRIMATI N.P. DURGA (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, 'Tatkal' reservation scheme, introduced for passengers who could not plan journey in advance, has lost its sheen due to recent changes made in it and the way in which the Zonal Railways is unilaterally enhancing quota in the Sleeper class, particularly during summer vacation. It seems that the idea of Railways is only to make money through Tatkal and not to fulfil its social obligation. Originally, Tatkal Scheme provided passengers confirmed seat on payment of nominal premium of Rs. 50 per passenger for Sleeper and Rs. 150 for AC.

Now, premium for sleeper has been increased threefold and has been doubled for AC. The rule says that full coach should not be reserved as Tatkal coach. Instead, the Ministry fixed Tatkal quota in each coach -- 4 berths for 2A, 6 berths for 3A and 10 per cent of accommodation of train or one coach, whichever is less, for Sleeper. But, the South Central Railways increased the Tatkal quota, unilaterally, without any approval from the Ministry to 3 to 4 bogies.

For example, in Godavari Express, only one bogie had been kept aside under Tatkal reservation. But, taking advantage of the summer rush, the South Central Railways increased the Tatkal quota in Godavari Express to four bogies. As a result, the number of coaches has come down under regular category of reservation and passengers are forced to pay Rs. 150 as Tatkal premium. In the same way, the South Central Railways has increased the Tatkal coaches in many trains.

So, I request the Railway Minister to immediately look into it and direct the South Central Railways to strictly maintain quota as per rules and, if necessary, increase Tatkal quota by increasing number of coaches, not by reducing regular coaches. (Ends)

CONCERN OVER RISING PRICES OF FOOD ITEMS IN THE COUNTRY

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NB/SK/1P/12.10

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CONCERN OVER DISPOSAL OF TOXIC WASTES OF UNION CARBIDE AT INDORE AND AT ANKLESHWAR

 

SHRI PRAVEEN RASHTRAPAL (GUJARAT): Thank you, Sir. It is reported that the Madhya Pradesh Government has decided to dispose of the Union Carbide toxic waste at Indore in Madhya Pradesh and at Ankleshwar in Gujarat. The 386 metric tonnes of hazardous waste may create serious damage to the environment and people in both places, that is, Pithampur near Indore and Ankleshwar near Bharuch. I strongly protest the very idea of the Madhya Pradesh Government to dispose of this toxic waste. The toxic waste should be shifted to the USA as it is the responsibility of the USA administration to find a solution of their company. According to my information, the technical sub committee appointed by the hon. High Court had given suitable directions in this matter. It is, therefore, requested that the Central Ministry of Environment should look into the matter and take urgent steps to help the people of Indore and Ankleshwar. (Ends)

DEMAND FOR RENAMING OF GOMO STATION IN JHARKHAND IN MEMORY OF NETAJI SUBHAS CHANDRA BOSE

 

DR. BARUN MUKHERJEE (WEST BENGAL): Thank you, Sir. There has been a persistent demand from the people of India to rename Gomo railway station, presently in Jharkhand, in memory of great patriotic son of India, Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. But, unfortunately, neither the Centre nor the Railway Minister has so far responded to it. As it may be recalled, Gomo station was the last exit point for Netaji Subhas who, deceiving British surveillance, left India, in disguise of Jiauddin, after secretly boarding alone the then Frontier Mail at Gomo on the night of 17th January, 1941, on his way to Kabul via Peshwar for his great revolutionary mission to continue his freedom struggle from outside forming the Indian National Army and the provisional free India Government abroad. Since 1941, Gomo station continues to be a mute witness to this historic 'great escape' of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. It is, therefore, proposed to rename 'Gomo Jn.' as 'Netaji Subhas Gomo Jn.' to perpetuate the memory of Netaji. Our future generations will thus be reminded of this historic event as and when they pass through the station and the people of Jharkhand will thus be privileged to pay their respectful homage to the great patriotic son of our country.

I would appeal to the Railway Minister and the Union Government to accept the people's demand and rename Gomo Station in memory of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose with effect from his forthcoming birthday on 23rd January, 2008.

DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA (RAJASTHAN): Sir, I associate myself with the Special Mention made by the hon. Member.

SHRI RUDRA NARAYAN PANY (ORISSA): Sir, I associate myself with the Special Mention made by the hon. Member.

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MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay, the entire House associates itself with it. (Ends) (Followed by 1q-ysr)

-SK/YSR-AKG/12.15/1Q

DEMAND FOR HIGHER MINIMUM SUPPORT PRICE TO FARMERS

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MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri M.V. Mysura Reddy; not here.

 


CONCERN OVER GRAVE SCENARIO OF SUICIDE AND FRAGGING IN ARMED FORCES

 

DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA (RAJASTHAN): Sir, a staggering 430 officers and other ranks have committed suicide in the highly disciplined environs of the Army, the Navy, and the IAF since 2002. The 1.13 million Army, of course, leads the tally, with 92 suicides in 2005; 100 in 2004; and 96 in 2003. The gravity of the problem can be gauged from official figures which show that the Army alone reports over 100 suicides and fragging incidents every year. Incidentally, most of the 23 cases of fratricide or fragging involving three officers and 16 jawans in 2006 have taken place in J&K and the North-East.

Apart from being deployed in hostile terrain ranging from the Thar Desert to the glacial heights of Siachen Saltoro Ridge, the Army is clearly under severe stress and fatigue syndrome. While jawans also have to tackle inadequate housing, paltry salaries, few promotion avenues, strict leave restrictions, and early retirement, the officers too are not spared from mental and physical strain.

It is gratifying that, though belatedly, the Defence Minister has announced the constitution of a high-level committee headed by the Director, Defence Institute of Psychological Research, to look into the reasons behind this problem and submit report within two months. It is obvious that apart from other welfare measures, liberal grant of leave to armed forces personnel, particularly jawans, must be assured.

A grateful nation should do all that is possible to improve the working conditions of armed forces personnel, engaged in round-the-clock counter-insurgency operations.

Hence, I urge the Defence Minister to take suitable measures on a war footing. (Ends)

SHRI SHREEGOPAL VYAS (CHHATTISGARH): Sir, I associate myself with the Special Mention made by the hon. Member.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri Vijay J. Darda; not here.

 

DEMAND TO DEVELOP TADRI PORT IN NORTH KARNATAKA AS AN ALL-WEATHER MAJOR PORT

 

SHRIMATI PREMA CARIAPPA (KARNATAKA): Sir, my home State Karnataka has maritime coastal line of about 300 km. But, unfortunately, there is only one major port of New Mangalore Harbour which is in the southernmost part of Karnataka along the coastal line. As the international trade is increasing by leaps and bounds, necessity of having another major port in Karnataka is being felt very badly preferably in the northern part of the State. The ideal location for such a port will be the Tadri Port which is about 200 km from New Mangalore Port. Tadri Port is situated in the backwaters of Aghanashini and possesses vast waterfront. A Technical Committee has also found the Tadri Port as having potential for being developed as a major port. (Contd. by 1R)

-YSR/VKK-HMS/1r/12.20

SHRIMATI PREMA CARIAPPA (CONTD.): It has an effective hinterland of about 2000 sq. kilometres comprising central and northern parts of Karnataka and some parts of neighbouring Andhra Pradesh which are rich in large deposits of mineral, forest, agricultural and marine wealth. If this port becomes a reality, it will not only stimulate Karnataka's economy but will also offer low cost bulk imports and exports and also generate employment and world class link to global transportation. It will also reduce travel distance of iron ore and other products which now come to Mangalore harbour. Konkan Railway and National Highway-17 run very close to this area. As such, Tadri port has all the salient features for being developed as a major port.

Hence, I demand from the Central Government to develop Tadri Port in Karnataka as an all weather major port on priority basis as the second major port of the State. Thank you, Sir. (Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri Motilal Vora, not here. Shri Shatrughan Sinha, not here. Shri Ajay Maroo.

CONCERN OVER POOR PERFORMANCE

BY INDIA IN INTERNATIONAL GAMES

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ֵ ֺ (ָӛ) : , ֤ ֮ ӟָ™ߵ ןֵ֟ֆ ָ ϤԮ ָ֟ ָ־֙ פ֮ ׾ ָ ֮ ֕ ִ֮ ָ , ֕ ָ ֮֟ ֲ ֕ ׾ ßָ ןֵ֟ֆ ָ ã֮ ֤ ֟ ָ ߴ ׯ ״ֱևֻ ֕ ׯ ׻֋ ׻ֱև ֟ ׮ ָ ֻ֛ ֕ ׾ִֻ֛ ֮ ֛ ןֵ֟֋ ߟ օ ׮ ׮ֵ ״֕ ߤ Ӭև , - ֓־ ã֮ ָ և ش֙ ײ׻ֵ֛ ָ ֻכ ֿ ִ ֵ ־ֻ ָߵ ׻֋ וִ֮ - ֻ֛, ӑ ָ ־ ֮֕ן? ֻ 2014 ׿ֵև ׻֋ פ ־ ִ ֵ ׸ דֆ ֕ ָ ֵօ ִ ׻֋ ӡ ֿ ָ ָߵ ׯ ӑ ִ֛ ָ ֟ ָ ߮, ֮֯ ׸ ׸ ֣ ߵ ֓ ׬ӿ ֚ þֵֿ֢ , ָָ ֮ וִָ ㌟ ߅ ָָ ֻ֟ ־ֿ ֮

(ִ֯)


CONCERN OVER HARASSMENT OF RAIL PASSENGERS TRAVELLING IN UNRESERVED COACHES

----

־ָ (ײָ) : , כ ָ֬ ָ֟ כ ֱ ֻ ֡ ֛ ™Ϥ ֋ פ ֣ Ծָ , ָߙ ֟ ָ ߓ פ ֟ ֡ ֮ ָ߲ כ ֵ ֡ י , ײ֮ י ֡ , ױ ׾ֳ ԓָ ׻ ָ֮ ֯֜ Ӿ-Ӿև ֻ ֮֕ ֮ פ ߙ ֟

ָ ֙֋ ׾ֿ ײָ ֮ ֻ כ ײָ ֛ ܵ ֤֕ ׻֋, ִ-Ӭ ֻֿ ָ ֕ ֟ ־-ָ ֮֮ ׻֋ ֮-֮ ָ ֯ ֟ ãן ײָ ֮ ֻ כ ߛ-֛ ֜ וִ ִֵ ԓָ ׻ ָ ן 㻴

ָ ӡֵֻ ׮֟ և כ ָ߲- ִ ֮֟׻֟ ֛ ֻև ָ ָ߲ סֵ ֣ ־ ָ ָ ־ָ

ָָ , ׾ֿ ӡֵֻ ָ֟ כ ֡ ֻ סֵ ָ ֻ ֮֟ ָ֓ ֵ (ִ֯) (1 /ߋ־ ָ )

RSS/PSV/1S/12.25

CONCERN OVER CLOSURE OF BRANCH POST OFFICES

IN RURAL AREAS OF TAMIL NADU

SHRI C. PERUMAL (TAMIL NADU): Sir, my Special Mention is regarding the concern over problems being faced by the rural poor due to the closure of village post offices in the State of Tamil Nadu. Sir, most of the population of our country lives in rural areas and depends on agriculture. A number of remote villages are not even provided with proper road and communication facility. They are living in very poor conditions and they are not in a position to enjoy the benefits of modern technology of the communication sector. Even now, they are using their village post offices for their letter correspondence. It is understood that the Government have decided to close down the village post offices. Now, in Tamil Nadu, nearly 50 village post offices and 60 branch post offices have been closed down. Previously, there were three deliveries in cities, but now, it has been restricted to a single delivery. At present, 25 per cent of the post boxes have been removed from the cities in Tamil Nadu. There is a large number of youths in the remote villages who are unemployed. The decision of the Government will result in further unemployment. The poor people have to go miles together for availing of the communication facilities. For want of proper transportation facilities, the people have to cover a lot of distance on foot to avail themselves of the facilities. People who are getting old age pension, ex-servicemen pension, retirement benefits and money from their kids through money orders, are facing problems by this decision. In Tamil Nadu, till recently, more than hundreds of village post offices have been closed down, and there is a proposal to close down some other post offices also. In order to provide better communication facilities to the rural poor and to save the rural youths from unemployment, the Government should come forward to cancel the decision of closing down the village post offices immediately. Thank you. (Ends)

SHRI S.ANBALAGAN (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I associate myself with the Special Mention made by Shri C. Perumal.

SHRI N.R. GOVINDARAJAR (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I also associate myself with the Special Mention made by Shri C.Perumal.

DEMAND FOR APPROVAL OF PENDING PROPOSALS OF MAHARASTHRA UNDER JAWAHARLAL NEHRU

NATIONAL URBAN RENEWAL MISSION

SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (MAHARASHTRA): Sir, as per the Central Government guidelines on the Jawaharlal Nehru Urban Renewal Mission, the State Government of Maharashtra had submitted a proposal vide No. MMRDA/PD/NURM/06/50 dated 2nd February, 2006 and reminders also were issued on 7.7.2006, 5.9.2006, 17.10.2006, 18.10.2006 and 20.10.2006. The proposal has been sanctioned by the State Level Steering Committee appointed under the chairmanship of Chief Minister of Maharashtra.

The 11 Detailed Project Reports (DPRs) of Mumbai amounting to Rs. 7835.44 crores, three DPRS of Pune amounting to Rs. 2756.71 crores, thirteen DPRs of Nagpur amounting to Rs. 1125.87 crores, six DPRs of Nanded amounting to Rs. 719.06 crores, four DPRs of Nasik amounting to Rs. 189.37 crores, fourteen DPRs of Pimpri-Chinchwad amounting to Rs. 3898.73 crores, seven DPRs of Thane amounting to Rs. 522.65 crores and one DPR of Mira-Bhayandar amounting to Rs. 343 crores have been submitted by the State Government to the Central Government.

The Government of India has given grant of Rs. 22.1979 crores, for 5 DPRs of Nagpur; Rs. 43.2735 crores for 4 DPRs of Pune and Rs. 61.9410 crores for 6 DPRs of Nanded. However, the rest of the DPRs have not been sanctioned so far, and are pending with the Government of India. Although the Corporation had given clarifications on the technical points raised by the Government of India, the proposals are still pending for a long time.

Therefore, I would urge upon the Government to kindly approve all these pending proposals at an early date. Thank you. Ends)

DEMAND FOR GIVING PRIORITY TO BACKWARD STATES WITH

REGARD TO BUDGETARY ALLOCATION FOR EDUCATION

֮֕ן ֤ (ײָ): , ֛ ֲ֤, ָ߲ , ֤֕ 60 ֤ ׿- ׮ֵ֤ ׾֬ ד֟ ֕ , ֟-ןֿ֟ ָ ֕ ָ ִ ׾ ܵ ָ ָ ֕ , ֛ ֲ֤ ׿ ֯ ִ֣ - Ѿ , ׾ֵֻ֪ פ ׾ֵֻ֪ , ־֮ ߓ ֻ֚֋ ֵו֟ ֟ ־֮ , ׿ - ֆ ָ ׿ ֜ ֋? ֤ ָ֟ ִ ׾ֵֻ֪ ֟ ײָ Ѿ , ãן ָ ׿-֕֙ ׿ ־י ֟ , ֵԯ ֟ , ׸ִþֺ ׾ֵֻ֪ ֕Ը ãן -׿ ׾ֵֻ֪ ֻ ׻ֆ ׻֋ - ֵֻ ־ã

: ָָ ׿ ֤ ֕֙ߵ ־֮֬ ֋, ִ ײָ- ׯ֔ ֕ ֣״ ֋, Ѿ ֲ ָ߲ ׌ ׿֟ ٣ ן ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

ߴ֟ ׯϵ (ָ™): , ֮ ֯ ׾ֿ ִ֨

ִ֮ ֚ (׿ִ ֻ) : , ֮ ֯ ׾ֿ ִ֨

0 ֹ ֕ (׿ִ ֻ) : , ֮ ֯ ׾ֿ ִ֨ (1/000 ָ ֿ:)

1T/klg-mks/12.30

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shrimati Shobhana Bhartia. She is not here. Shri Amar Singh. He is also not here.


CONCERN OVER BAD CONDITION OF BSNL MOBILE

SERVICE IN KANNAUJ, U.P.

 

ֳ ן־ָ (ָ Ϥ) : ֳ֯ן , ֵӕ, וֻ (ָ Ϥ) BSNL և ֲָ ãן ָ ֤ ׾ֿ ִ֬ ִֻ ֵ ֵ օ ָָ ־ֲ פ ֵӕ ֻ ߾ָ Ù֮ ãׯ֟ ֵօ ֿ֟ ӡֵֻ ָ, 2007 ֡ Ù֮ ֟Դ֮ ãׯ֟ פ ֋, ָ ֵӕ և پ ָ ֮֮ ׻ֵ ֵԾ և ֵӕ 6 ߙ ִ֮֬ ߾ָ Ù֮ ֵӕ ֕ ݮֻ ֯ ָ֤֟ ݮֻ ״ֻ֟ פ ֵӕ Ù֮ ãׯ֟ ֮ ָָ ֮ , ָָ ֮ ָ , Ù֮ ãׯ֟ ־ֿ ׾ֻӲ ?

, : ֵӕ () BSNL և ָ ֺ ֻ֮ ׻֋ ָ ߾ָ Ù֮ ãׯ֟ ֮ ָ ߑ ֻ ֋, ו ֮֟ ֳ ״ֻ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri Rajeev Shukla. He is not here. Shri Shantaram Laxman Naik. He is also not here.

DEMAND FOR REVIVAL OF SARASWATI RIVER

TO COMBAT WATER SCARCITY

ֻ (֜) : ֳ֯ן , þ ӟ دֻ ִ֮ ֨ ן ™ן ִ֮ ֯ 0 ִ֮ ֟֟ ϵ ֣ ֬׮ ֵ֟ 㯟 ָþ֟ ִ Ͼ ֵ ֻ ָ (׸) ׾ֵ ָ ֵו֟ ָ߮ ֓և ӡ Ӳ׬֟ ׾֮֫, 0 ָ֮ ֣ וֆֻו ־ ֵָ ָþ֟ ִ ݻֵ օ ֵ ָþ֟ ִ ׬ ֕ ֻ ִõ 25,000 ׬ ־֙ ײֻ֕ ֮ ӳ־֮ ֟և և

ָָ ָꌟ ֿ ָþ֟ ߵ ך ֵ ֕ ֻ ײֻ֕ ִõ ן Ϥ ִ֮֬ ߑП ֵ ֮־֤

(ִ֯)

ֵָ () : ֳ֯ן , Ӳ֨

CONCERN OVER ADVERSE EFFECTS OF TRANS FAT

PRESENT IN FOOD ITEMS

ߴ֟ ֵ (֬ Ϥ) : ֤ߵ ֳ֯ן , ֮ ߑԵ ߬ ӲӬ ֮-֮֕ ָ ֮ ֟ ֜ , , ׬ ֡ ֳ ִ ָ סִ ָ ֟ , ִ֮֯ ָ և֮ ֮ïן ״ֻ֮ ָ ֮֟ ָ ֮ ״֚և, ָ֚, ־, , , ִ, ִ߮ ֮֋ ָ-ָ ϵ Ϥ ֛ ֡ ֮ ߕ ֵ ֳ ֯, , ֻ֙ ӲӬ ֣ ֬ ָ֟ ֜ ֟ ֵ֮ ߕ

, ֛ ״֟ ׻֋ ֮ ֮֋ ׸ ֮ ָ ָ ֡ ֬ ãן ִד֟ ֵ ߑ ֣ ֵ֮ օ ָ֕ Ù ֮ , ֑֟, ֬, פ ָ ׻֋ ָָ ָ פ-׮֤ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

1/-ߋ־ ָ .

-MKS-TMV-AKA/1U/12.35

NEED TO FORMULATE SUITABLE POLICY FOR

CONTROLLING PRICES OF LIFE-SAVING DRUGS

 

ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ (™ߵ ֮֕֬ , פ) : ֳ֯ן , ׾פ ו֮ ֆ ָ և , ߴ֟ ׮ֵ ֵ ֆ ϓָ ׮ֵ ֌ ߓ ֌ ӛ ׻֟ , ״Ù ָߤ , ߴ֟ ָ֕ ֮ - ߓ 3 ֋ 30 ֋ ״ֻ֟ ֆ 57 ָ ֋ ֤ ָָ ִ֟ ֵֻ 10 ֓, 2003 ָָ ֟ ֻܵ ֮ ֤ פ ֺ ߾ָ֮ ֋ և ֵָ ־ֿ ֟ ֆ ׻֋ ׸ ֵ 2 և, 2003 ֻ 000 ָָ ֮ ״׮ִִ ִ ߾ָ֮ ֋ וֲ ߴ֟ ָ ֮ ׻֋ ϵָ ׻֋ ֵ֮ Ը ӡֵֻ ӵ㌟ ד־ ֟ ״ן ֚ ֵ ֣ ״ן և ֆ ָ ٕ֮ ֵ ֱ׸ ߅ ״ן ֱ׸ ׮֟ ã֮ ָ ָ ָ : ׾ָ֓ ׻֋ خ ߿֮ دֻ֯ և̸, ־ և ֚ ֵօ և ־ֿ ָ פօ ӡֵֻ ָ և ִ ׻ ְ ָ ֵ ְ ׻ ָ ׾ָ֓ ׻֋ סֵ ִ ֮ פ ֵ ָ ִ֟ ֵֵֻ 10 ֓, 2003 ֤ ֿ֟ և ֮ ׾ִֻ ָ

ָָ ֮ ߾ָ֮ ֆ և ןִ ߑ ׮֟ ֮ ־ֿ ֋

(ִ֯)

0 ϳ (֕ã֮) : ׾ֿ ֮ ֯ ֋

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now Shrimati Brinda Karat is to initiate the discussion on the working of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare.

SHRI V. NARAYANSAMY: Sir, when will the Gujarat issue be taken up? (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I told you that it would be taken up at 2.30 P.M. (Interruptions)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: That is a different matter. Kindly give an assurance that you will take up the issue today itself. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The Chair has fixed it at 2.30 p.m.

֚ : ִ֮ ָ և, ָ ֓ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI V. NRAYANASAMY: It should be taken up today itself. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shrimati Brinda Karat, you please initiate the discussion. (Interruptions)...

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: You sit down now. This should be taken up first. (Interruptions)...

SHRI V. NARAYANSAMY: I will sit down. There is no problem. I will allow you to speak. But I need an assurance from the Chair. (Interruptions)...

ֳ֯ : ך, ך ֯ ך

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: I need an assurance from the Chair. (Interruptions)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ ֡ ֵ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ : פ ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ߱ ׾ , ֡ ֵ , ִ ֵ֤ , "to discuss issues related to Zero Hour". ׻ , ־֕ ֛ ..(־֮֬).. ָֻ ָ דֽ և , ֯ և , ߱ ׾ ֯ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ : פ , և ..(־֮֬).. ִֵָ , ֯ ך և

STATEMENT RE. STATUS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF THIRTY-SECOND REPORT OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY

 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SURESH

PACHOURI): Sir, on behalf of my esteemed colleague, Shri Priyaranjan Dasmunsi, I beg to lay on the Table of the House a statement regarding status of implementation of recommendations contained in the Thirty-second Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Information and Technology. (Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now Shrimati Brinda Karat is to initiate the discussion on the working of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare.

(Followed by VK/1W)

SCH/VK/12.40/1w

֮ ֻ ӛ: , ־ã ӲӬ Ͽ

ֳ֯ן: ִ ־ã Ͽ ?

֮ ֻ ӛ: ָ, ־ã Ӳ׬֟ Ͽ ׾ֵ ָ ߮ פ þã ׸ָ ӡֵֻ ָ ׾ֿ ֓ ֵ ָ ָ ָ ֻ ָߵ ֵپ֮ ã֮ ָ ָָ ӓ ״ן և , ֙ ן־ ߮ פ ֟

ֳ֯ן: ֯ ֮ ֟

֮ ֻ ӛ: ָ, Ʈ ־ã Ͽ , ֮֮ߵ ӡ ן־ ֵ ֟ , ָָ ֲ ָ ֓ ߮ פ ָָ ן־ ֤ ? ꌿ֮ ׸ ֣ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֙ , ו ײ ֮ ֛ ןš ã ׮֤ ֕ ֱֻ ָ ϴ֟ , ֱֻ ֵԾ ? ӲӬ ן־ ֤ ֙ ָ ?

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You can raise all these issues when you speak.


DISCUSSION ON WORKING OF MINISTRY

OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT (WEST BENGAL): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, I thank you for giving me this responsibility of initiating the discussion on the working of the Health Ministry. Even before I complete seven minutes of my speech, one woman would have died in this country. Before half-an-hour is over, 50 children would have died in this country. The estimates of many international agencies and many of the studies done in our country by our own research agencies have shown that India has, perhaps, the highest percentage of unavoidable deaths. As we all know, these unavoidable deaths occur among the poorest sections of our people, particularly among women and children. India is a signatory to a declaration, which was signed in the year 1978, called Alma Ata Declaration and that Declaration made a commitment for a slogan 'Health for All'. Now we are going to observe 30 years of Alma Ata Declaration next year. How does it define health? It is very crucial when we talk about the health policy. What is its definition of health to which India itself is a signatory? Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease and infirmity. Health is a fundamental human right and the attainment of the highest possible level of health is the most important social goal whose realisation requires the action of many other social and economic sectors, in addition to the health sector. This is a general comprehensive understanding of what constitutes health. Therefore, there are three sectors of any health policy, that is, prevention, promotion and the curative aspect of health. It is a good thing that in our country also the two health policies which have been adopted in 1983 and the more recent one in 2002 do take into account this comprehensive understanding of what constitutes health. But, Sir, when we look at the way the guidelines of the National Health Policy are being implemented in this country, that is where all the issues arise. There is a constitutional provision. Health is a concurrent subject. Therefore, the Centre has certain responsibilities which pertain to policy, to regulation, to monitoring, to implementation of certain Acts, to the Drug Control Authority, to the PNDT Act, etc. There is a constitutional provision that it is the responsibility of both the Centre and the States. Today, since we are discussing the Central Health Ministry and the Central health policies, I would request the hon. Minister not to put the blame on the States because that is what usually happens in our discussion when we raise certain issues about the Central Government. The point which I am going to make is, although the States also have a responsibility in it, but today we are scrutinising the functioning of the Central Health Ministry and the Demand for Grants. There are two basic characteristics of the Indian system today. On the one hand we have a rapidly growing private sector in health. (Contd. by 1X)

RG/12.45/1X

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT (contd.): And since 90s, a new trend that we are seeing is that big co-operatives are coming into the health sector. Health has now become a profit-making industry. We now talk of health as a health industry, and, if I may say so, the slogan of 'Health is Wealth' has now become the slogan of 'Ill-health is wealth' to a very large section of those who are concerned with health. I am not saying that the entire private sector is bad. This is the reality that we have to deal with. But the question that I want to raise is, in this situation, where 80 per cent of all health expenditure in this country is out-of-pocket expenditure, which means the Government health sector, the public health sector, all the declarations, intentions and policy directions of the Government are reduced to naught, that, today, if you look at the admissions in hospitals, if you look at the health expenditure, there is an assessment which says that 40 per cent of Indian families, who require health, are in debt because of health expenditure. It is assessed that 25 per cent of farmers in India go into debt because of health expenditure. It is assessed that after dowry, health is one of the prime reasons for debt in this country. So, in that situation, the first issue that I want to raise is, when I look at the Health Policy, I looked at all the documents of the Health Ministry; I looked at all the Demands for Grants of the Health Ministry; nowhere do I find an understanding or a consciousness that where you have 80 per cent in the private sector, what the Government's regulatory role is. How is the Government going to tame the private sector today which has now become synonymous with what is euphemistically called 'over care' which means, you go to a hospital, you go to a private doctor, all kinds of expensive tests you are required to undergo today. You have to spend so much of money on completely unnecessary care. A woman, who is pregnant, goes into a private hospital, and kindly look at the statistics which are coming about the number of caesareans being performed by the private sector. But, unfortunately, when you look at the Health Policy of this country, when you look at the Health Policy of this Ministry, I do not find any seriousness, any consciousness, about taming the private sector. In fact, what we see is the opposite. What we find are more concessions, more tax-free zones where you can have these hospitals. I want to ask of the hon. Minister: Is he aware of the Quereshi Report? Right here in Delhi, private hospitals were given land at concessional rates. They were given concessions and taxes with an understanding that 30 per cent of beds in the hospitals would be reserved for the poor. The hon. Minister would say that it is a matter of the Delhi Government. But I would ask of him: Has he ever looked into it? Has any action been taken against a single private hospital management which is not ensuring 30 per cent beds reserved for the poor. In fact, the opposite is happening. The CGHS has now gone into a mode of privatisation. We do not go into Government hospitals now. All our bills are paid when we go to private hospitals. So, the Government itself is now downsizing the CGHS and privatising it, and all the bills are now paid to private hospitals. So, we are encouraging that without any regulation. This is the first thing where I find a huge omission.

Medical tourism is now coming about. I am proud to read in the newspapers that the most excellent transplant operation, both of liver and kidney together, was performed today. I want to congratulate the doctors on it. We do have the most excellent medical facilities. But these are not accessible to the poor of this country. This brilliance is not accessible to those who need it most. Today, limited resources in these hospitals are being diverted, and the Government is giving concessions. Therefore, let the Health Minister answer as to what he is going to do to tame this sector and to bring some kind of social accountability into this. In this context, I want to ask of him: While we are promoting private sector, what are we doing about our own best hospitals? I want to raise the issue of All India Institute of Medical Sciences. We are proud of that Institution. We have seen how that Institution has produced some of the best doctors. We have seen how that institution, in spite of so many odds, has set records in commitment to the poor of this country.

(Continued by 1Y)


1y/12.50/-rg/ks

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT (CONTD.): We are very, very distressed about the recent developments in the AIIMS about which it is being said now that it had become a centre against the reservation struggle. We have heard about the Thorat Committee, which my friend has just now mentioned too, about the caste discrimination that is going on. All these are there. They need to be looked into. But the Supreme Court has said, "Please, do not reduce this to any personality-based issue". And, therefore, I appeal to the Health Minister to give an assurance on the floor of this House that the autonomy of the Institute will be preserved, that the constitutional requirement against any type of caste discrimination will be upheld; the Minister must also give us an assurance that the Institute itself will be protected. This is one of our best institutes. In the context of our policy vis-a-vis private sector, I find that in our efforts to get our own Government hospitals to work, the opposite has been happening. So, this is the first point that I want to make.

The second point, Sir, that I want to make is, when we talk about `preventive, promotion and curative', then, obviously, this is all linked to the issue of allocations. When we come to the issue of allocations, we find why our people are having to go to the private sector, why forty per cent of our people are being forced to take loans just to meet their own health expenditure. The main reason is the virtual dismantling of the public health services. I won't blame the Health Minister for this, but I do not know whether he is also a victim of the communicable disease which started from the Planning Commission and the Finance Ministry, Sir, and this disease is called 'reformitis and privatisationitis'. We heard our friends from the Right here; they have also been suffering, or, at least, some sections of them have also been suffering, from `reformitis'. We heard on the Finance Bill our hon. friend, Shri Arun Jaitley who was blaming the Government for not going further into reform. We have also heard the echoes between both these sectors. Sir, I do not know whether you are also afflicted by this disease called `reformitis'. But one thing I can say is that this disease impairs the vision of any Government. We have seen how it impaired theirs. They only showed `Shining India'. Today, we see the `trillion dollar economy', the GDP; we see the Bombay SENSEX; but we do not understand that without the basic issue of allocations, you cannot deal with the health situation in India as it is. Now, for example, Sir, the Common Minimum Programme has very clearly set out the roadmap. It has very clearly said that health is very essential. We want to increase the health expenditure to, at least, two to three per cent. States also have that responsibility. States' expenditure has also come down. But, please, let me share with the House that in 1991 when the neo liberal regime started, India's health expenditure ratio to the GDP was already low, at just 1.3 per cent. By 2001-02, that had come down to 0.9 per cent. Today, if at all there is a marginal increase, I would say it is so marginal that you can say it is stagnating. GDP is growing. Your real expenditure in terms of money allocations would have grown; they say it is now 21 per cent higher; but when we look at the huge increase in the way the economy is growing, as a ratio of GDP, expenditure on health is extremely poor. It is so poor, Sir, that, frankly, I think this is one of the most shameful records of our country. Today, we are amongst the lowest in the world as far as expenditure on health is concerned. Let me tell you which club we are in. We are not in the Mahashakti Club of the United States of America, the United Kingdom, Germany and Japan. We are not in that club. Even China is. We are in the club -- and I have great respect for those countries -- of Burundi, Myanmar, Pakistan, Sudan and Cambodia -- these are the only five countries in the whole world which have a public health expenditure that is lower than India's. What is our per capita monthly expenditure? It is a princely sum of Rs. 17 per month! Nowadays, I don't know whether even for headache you can get a tablet. What is responsible for this? (Contd. by 1z/tdb)

TDB/1Z/12.55

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT (CONTD.): Most squarely it is the approach of this Government in talking a language which is not matched by its policy. It talks about health; it talks about the National Rural Health Mission, but it does not put its money where it should be putting. Therefore, you have a situation where allocations are so low. I hope Dr. Ramdoss would have raised these issues in the appropriate fora. I don't know, perhaps, he could shed light on this. I know your Ministry has asked for more allocations, and the Finance Ministry has not granted it. I am aware of that. But, let us hear something about your struggle about this.

But the second issue in which you are equally responsible is that even of this low-approved outlays, Sir, you will be shocked to hear that the difference between the approved and the actual is also extremely high. In 2002-03, it was 18.5 per cent less. The Budget Estimates, as I have told you, were already low. Then, it came down to 11.5 per cent. In the following year, again it went up to 17.5 per cent. Last year, it was 9.5 per cent. Therefore, we have a situation, Sir, where we require more allocations and yet we are not in a position to utilise those allocations properly. And, this, I believe, is also an issue of governance; it is also an issue of commitment. And here I hope the Health Minister is going to shed light as to what he is doing on this.

Then, the third issue I want to raise, Sir, is, why is there such a chasm between the declaration and the reality? It is my contention that if you say that Health is not only curative but also preventive and promotional, then you have to look at the basic issue of nutrition in this country. I know that this does not come under the Health Ministry. But the Rural Health Mission itself talks about integration; it talks about a comprehensive and an integrated health system. Now, Dr. Ramdoss's Health Ministry I have seen best banners promoting breast-feeding. Everybody knows that it is essential for a new-born infant. Breast-feeding is going to be very crucial for the health of that child. It is absolutely true. But, I ask you, because we are working among women and we know when a mother who has given birth to a new-born child, if that mother herself is suffering from malnutrition, if the mother herself is anaemic, what good is all the lakhs of rupees that we are spending on breast-feeding? This is a crucial issue. You talk about comprehensive care, and yet the one thing which is essential for the health of this country, which is basic nutrition, the right to food, the basic human right, you are denying it through your food policies; you are denying it through your new economic and your neoliberal policies. Therefore, all this talk about dealing with health comes to naught, when you look at the two crucial issues of food and water. I also want to state this. We are very concerned about maternal mortality. As I had said, seven women are dying every minute because of maternal mortality deaths. But, Sir, I want to inform you, and through you, the House. Our maternal mortality rates are so high; 301 is what the Minister has put it at, but the UNICEF and the UN agencies have put it at 502; I don't know what is the correct figure. We are much higher than China which is around 70 and Sri Lanka at 92. But, even then, this high maternal mortality is still only 12 per cent of the deaths of women in the same age group. Only 12 per cent! That means, how many lakhs of women are dying due to other reasons, most of them related to anaemia and malnutrition. So, unless we deal with this issue, Sir, unless the Health Ministry can deal with this issue, the situation is not going to improve. Sir, drinking water is also responsible for this. Most of the deaths are due to diarrhoea, stomach ailments, etc. But even if you look at it from the viewpoint of just an instrumental value of productivity which is lost, when a woman, a worker is suffering from a stomach ailment, is suffering from diarrhoea, how is it going to affect your great productivity rates about which only the Neoliberals are bothered? (Contd. by 2a-kgg)

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