DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA (CONTD.): Till that incentive is given, there will not be enough of produce. Till that incentive is given, the farmer would not be permitted to get his heart and spirit into his job and there will be only suicides and more suicides. It is really horrendous that, in this Bharat, where we call a farmer our annadata, 1430 suicides of farmers take place every month; 45 daily. Why does it happen? I do not say that all of them are because of debt or all of them are because of famine. But, so many farmers dying is something that must shake our conscience. In a year, 1,87,000 suicides take place. Out of them, 15.8 per cent are farmers. In the morning I heard the hon. Agriculture Minister stating that 'ִ ֵ֤ suicide commit ֤ ֛ ֵ '. It appeared funny though I did not intervene at that time. 'ִ ָ ߮ ֤ ֛ ֵ , ߮ ֤ ֛ ֵ , ߴ ֮ ֤ ֛ ֵ suicide ֤ ֛ ֵ ' , suicide ֤ ֛ ? Your honour, is it possible? Suicide is an extreme step which a man takes in desperation. It is virtually defamatory to an Indian farmer for anybody to say that he has become habitual of committing suicide. It was said in the morning by our very learned Agriculture Minister, who himself is a champion of agriculturists. Anyhow, I won't go into the details of what he said. But this is a fact that contribution to GDP by agriculture is only 2.3 per cent and that is when we club allied activities such as fisheries and other things with pure agriculture. The contribution of pure agriculture is not more than 1.5 or 1.7 per cent. Now, that is the GDP growth in regard to agriculture and the investment in agriculture is very little. If the total contribution of 65 per cent of the population, that is, the farmers, to the national kitty is 20 per cent and if 20 per cent national resource is distributed amongst those 65 per cent, what would they get? So, my main suggestion would be to control the inflation, somehow improve the condition of our agriculturists, the farmer and the whole of rural India. Without that, we would not be able to check inflation and if there is inflation, there will be a steep rise in prices. That is the corollary to inflation. It appears funny that, if people are hungry you tell them we have lessened taxes on dog food and cat biscuits. Is it not a travesty of a poor man's plight? There may be many reasons for inflation. It is for experts to know. I am a simple man, a common man. I am not an expert. But, generally speaking, forward trading is one of them which is a kind of gamble, a gamble of life, which must be checked, which must be controlled as has been pointed out by very wise and seasoned colleagues of mine. The Essential Commodities Act must be implemented with all the ruthlessness. If we take figures for the whole of the country, you wont find in such a big country even fifty persons who have been punished with any jail sentence because of hoarding and because of any malpractice. That means the Essential Commodities Act is not being applied rightly. I wont repeat that the PDS must be strengthened and corruption must be eliminated from the PDS machinery.

(Contd. by 3m/tdb)


DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA (CONTD): The Public Distribution System is meant for the poorest of the poor, for the BPL. If the PDS crumbles, the poor will go hungry. The poor will sleep without anything in their stomach. Mahangai is not affecting the rich people at all. It may be affecting them in certain manner, but not that way as it affects the poor. Something must be done. Some way must be found out and someone has to accept the blame also. Whom should we blame for mahangai, the poorest of the poor man, common man, middleman or the Government which is in power? It may be ֕ or it may be ӯ, for a man does not matter because bread has no political connotations, and dal has got no political leanings. That must be provided to him. The Government in power, whichever is there, has to bear the brunt, has to come forward and say, 'we are accountable'. It has been -- I won't sound political but it is a fact -- in the headlines in newspapers regarding results in Uttarakhand and Punjab, the headline was 'mahangai maar gai'. Another headline was, 'mahangai ne dubo diya'. It is very certain. If the people suffer, they will ask for the blood, and ultimately, we have to pay for it. So, accountability must be accepted by the Government. They can't shy away from this. If they are able to control mahangai, it will be a great crowning glory for them. If they are not able to control it, then they shall have to face the consequences which are written large on the wall, and that writing must be recognised.

It is very kind of you, Sir, to have permitted me to speak on this vital issue. I know, through your goodness, something will be done constructively to control run away inflation and steep rise in prices. Thank you very much, Sir, for your kind indulgence. (Ends)

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: It is not coming on. ...(Interruptions)...

DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA: We are here to listen to you, my dear. We are all with you.

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: I just wanted to be sure that the technology between you and me also works.

Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to speak on this subject. Sir, I always enjoy the Friday afternoon because this is the time, once in a week, where Members do accept to keep aside their party affiliations, and since there is no party quota of time and everybody can really have his say, people tend to speak out their minds and there is a real detailed discussion of the issues involved, which generally does not happen during the normal hours. I wish some of the issues in the Budget and economics were discussed on Friday afternoon rather than during the week, Sir. I found there that there was some kind of an attempt to show party loyalties on the part of Shri Rajniti Prasad and Shri Shantaram Laxman Naik, but then there was a response supporting the Essential Commodities Act and opposing the forward markets from this end also. So, I can say that the debate so far has been largely apolitical and without party affiliations.

Therefore, I would like to start by complimenting hon. Pashaji for having brought out the issue of inflation on a Friday afternoon because this is the only time when we can really have a dispassionate discussion of what causes inflation and what would be the remedial action that is required to be taken. During the course of the debate on the Motion of Thanks to the President, many Members did talk about the inflation, but that was generally along the party lines. Though from the Treasury Benches the Members would say, 'nothing is seriously wrong. Of course, we are concerned that the prices are going up. But, nothing is seriously wrong, and the situation is under control.' (Contd. by 3n-kls)


SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD): ..while they on this side try to create a scare that something was awfully wrong and that India is on the door of a crisis. Neither was true, and I find that, thanks to Mr. Pasha's Resolution today, the analysis of the inflation today is more rational and quiet. Sir, the inflation is measured in two manners, number one, it is on the basis of the price indices. I do not need to explain how the price indices are compiled. Price indices are complied on the basis of a basket of goods, which form part of consumption pattern of that particular community or particular class. Then the prices of those commodities are taken into account and they are rated according to the proportion that is used in the consumption. Then you come to a figure, which is divided by the total number of rates, which is 100, that gives you the index. Now this index is calculated every week and compared with the index in the previous year in the same week. That is a very funny way of calculating the inflation or rise in prices. When we say today that the inflation is 6.7 per cent, we are merely not talking of, somebody mentioned that vegetables were ten rupees seven days back and now they have become fourteen rupees, the comparison is not between ten rupees and fourteen rupees, the comparison is between the rates of increase in this week compared with the rate of increase in the previous year in the same week. Now, when you do that, the commodities get into prominence and therefore, people tend to think if the primary produce particularly the agricultural commodities etc., if their prices appear to have gone high, then the primary commodities must be primarily responsible for the inflation. That is one way of looking at it and that is the way the Finance Minister has broadly calculated the inflation and suggested the remedy. There is another way of calculating it and that is given by the quantum theory of money where what you do is, the total supply or money, the total quantity of money multiplied by the velocity of money which is really how many times the money changes hands, divided by the total product that you have. It is a simple formula. The popular formula is qv/p and when that is taken into account, you do not really put emphasis on what has happened to rice, what has happened to wheat, what has happened to brinjals and what has happened to onions. Then you take into account the economy in its macro appearance and find out why the prices have increased. Sir, I would like to make the point first that I think it was pointed out by my comrade here that what is responsible for inflation is neither so much the constraints of the supply nor the distribution of failure, it is a joint product or a combined product of the kind of economic policies that we are following. Sir, it is very nice to say that we are trying to serve the aam adami. It is very nice to say that we will dole out money in abundance to all kinds of weak sections. That pays money, that pays hustings that pays in terms of votes but that also costs money because that increases the money supply and when you follow aam adami economy or populist economy and then the baby that you get is inflation. Like Vishwamitra you cannot say that this baby does not belong to me. You fell, you succumbed to the temptations of aam adami and nymph apsara, that is, Maneka and having had dallied with Maneka and won the elections thereby, you cannot say that the baby does not belong to you. Inflation is an inevitable cause, inevitable consequence of the kind of populist economics that we have been following.

Sir, hon. Mr. Pasha has suggested three methods or three ways of combating the inflation. One is, of course, that the procurement system should be enhanced and strengthened, (2) the Public Distribution should be enhanced and strengthened and (3) the last measure he suggested is to take measures to stop forward trading. If you permit me, Mr. Pasha, in all friendliness and amicably without any kind of party pride, I would like to submit some of the facts before you so that you consider the real aspect of these problems and these remedies.

(Contd by 3O)


SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): If necessary and possible, come to a conclusion whether what you have suggested is really the best thing in the interest of the country. Sir, the first suggestion is about procurement. I would add one more point because that follows from Mr. Pasha's proposition, that was made explicit by Shri Shantaram Laxman Naik, that was made explicit by Rajniti Prasad and also on this side that the Essential Commodities Act has to be restored. Now, I would like to quote one argument. Often on this side, it is said that the POTA was useful for containing terrorism. But you scrapped it. Why did you scrap it? Yesterday, the Prime Minister said it was because there is abundant evidence that the POTA Act was misused. Sir, I can say that there is abundant evidence that the Essential Commodities Act has been grossly misused against the farmers. Do you know that it was under the Essential Commodities Act that 67 per cent of the sugar produced by the sugar factories was taken away by the Government at half the market price? Do you know it was the Essential Commodities Act that permitted the Government to ban exports of agricultural commodities when it was paying subsidies to industrial exports? Do you know that it was under the Essential Commodities Act that many of my colleagues were arrested for bringing just about five kilos of wheat from Punjab to Haryana? Do you know that even today it is under the Essential Commodities Act that the Maharashtra cotton growers, particularly from Vidarbha, who are committing suicide, are not allowed to take its cotton even to Madhya Pradesh and to Andhra Pradesh? He is not allowed to possess. This is something some of you don't know. He is not even allowed to decorticate his paddy. That is called possession. That is the manner in which Essential Commodities Act has been used and I am very proud to say it. You asked me who wanted the Essential Commodities Act to be scrapped. It is the farmer's movement as a whole, which demanded that the Essential Commodities Act should be scrapped. They did not scrap it. They made only minor changes because the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh and the Chief Minister of Punjab were not willing to do it. But, I wish, if we have a Government which really represents the farmers, the Essential Commodities Act will have absolutely no place at the law books of this country. What has the procurement system given you? You want to strengthen the procurement system. This morning, I think, Brinda Karatji, mentioned that there is a lobby that demands that the FCI should be scrapped. I am proud to say, Sir that I have demanded that the Food Corporation of India should be scrapped. You talked of the intermediaries. Now, between the wheat procurement at the ration shop or PDS shop, throughout the intermediaries there is only one intermediary and that is FCI. Do you know the difference between the procurement price and the price at which the wheat is sold? It is about Rs. 280 per quintal which is 50 per cent of the procurement. Now, it is known that the Food Corporation of India is corrupt. It is known that there are coolies who earn as much as Rs. 200,000 a year and even pay income taxes on it. There were abundant leakages all about the pipeline and similarly even in the PDS, the thing that you say that sugar is not available, edible oil is not available, there is abundant evidence that all these things are deliberately leaked out and given in the market. That is because the PDS itself is largely a politically patronised network. You cannot enforce it. You cannot strengthen it and improve it. The more you improve it, the worse it becomes. When you tried to target it in between and created the concept of below poverty line and given different colours to the ration card, it only becomes worse because the pipeline is vicious and the general conclusion that we can draw is, the more the Government intervenes, the worse things become. You may not like this conclusion. But that is a fact. The dictum is that power corrupts, absolute power absolutely; whenever you give power like that to an organisation like the Food Corporation of India or to the rationing shop, they will be corrupt.

(Contd. by NBR/3P)


SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): Don't say that we will have PDS. Don's say that we will try to improve the PDS; we will try to make the PDS more honest and more transparent is not possible. A scheme like that does not work, honestly. It is like Amartya Sen's thesis that we ought to have public works in health, education and food security and he says that we need to have massive and efficient mechanism for that. But, you cannot have massive and public mechanism. These two words are contradictory to each other. They cannot be together. You have another example. In the NREGS which is already now accepted that it is a flagship Scheme of the UPA which has capsized and there is a flop show. So, if you are trying to reinforce anything and, therefore, hope that the things will improve that will not happen.

The inflation is an extremely worrisome thing. Sir, 6.7 per cent is still under control! And, I think, the Finance Minister is unnecessarily complacent about it. Let us not forget that this is a tight rope walk. Sir, 6.7 per cent rate of inflation is something that we can take. But, let us imagine what happened after the Bangladesh War and then the Bangladesh situation developed. The prices went up in less than a year by 40 per cent and we had to increase cess, etc. In the time of NDA, we had the Kargil War which explains the part of rise in prices. Just imagine, tomorrow -- it is not really fictitious -- if a war starts in Iran what is going to be the consequences on your economy, Sir? So, don't be complacent about 6.7 per cent. We are already on tight rope. I think, we ought to, really, find out what are the correct way of facing inflation. We had hyper inflation in the immediate post first-war in Germany which is very pictorially described by Stephen Zoic in his novel 'The Hyper Inflation in Germany.' And, we had a similar inflation in the immediate post-revolution period in Soviet Union. When, even the people who were supposed to be doing well at one time really became beggars. In the German situation, Stephen Zoic described that even the daughters of great houses and great families sold their bodies in order to be able to live. He gives a very picturous description of two brothers of a landlord. One of them was given to drinking and the other one was very frugal. He saved money and purchased Government bonds. When the inflation came in, one who saved money and purchased the Government bonds became a pauper, because the bonds became worthless. While the chap who drank beer could live on merrily by selling merely empty bottles of beer. The only person who has justified inflation, Comrade Pasha, is V.I. Lenin. In the time of new economic policy in the immediate post-revolutionary period, he said that inflation is the best way of bringing about social equality, because inflation is something that destroys rich more than it destroys poor. But, otherwise, there is nobody who has justified inflation.

Now, Sir, the procurement has been given a very unhappy experience. I remember that this Food Corporation of India would have gone away in 1952 -- I am not quite sure about the year -- when Rafi Ahmed Kidwai, who was the Food Minister at that time, said that when India's position of food supplies is satisfactory, let us scrap ration. Let us make it open market. If we listen to him, then, we would not have had the period where we had to depend on PL-480 shipments of wheat from the United States. His suggestion was that we should not have rationing because that is a very expensive mechanism. A much better mechanism which I had suggested through my writings if you read columns is make the market free for everything. And, you want to give subsidies to poor? You want to help the poor? Then finance the cheap price shops or the fair price shops or the ration shops or the FCI bosses. Let the things come in the market and depending upon your judgment about the requirements of the people, give them food stamps. And, if you give them food stamps they can become addition to their own money. That is the easiest way of helping the poor.



SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): But the Government doesn't like easy ways of helping the poor. They want a method which will fatten the bureaucracy and which will give patronage to the political boss so that he can give promises in elections of wanting to do good to the people.

The third and a very important thing that has been mentioned by the honourable, Mr. Pasha, is about the forward markets. And, if you permit me, Sir, I would like to speak a little at length on this subject, because on the 27th evening at Alwar in Rajasthan the farmers organisations announced that the farmers of Punjab, Haryana and Western Uttar Pradesh will not give their wheat to the Food Corporation of India; instead, they will give it entirely to the NCDS where they can see the spot price, where they can see the prices that are coming for three months etc. and immediately the same evening I got a telephone saying that it has been decided that the wheat and paddy will be taken off the futures market. After the Finance Minister made an announcement to that effect, making a departure from the written speech. That was an ex tempore addition. One doesn't really know what the real situation is because he said that it has been banned and the Minister for Agriculture only yesterday was quoted in the newspapers as saying that it is not banned, it is only suspended. One does not know what the facts are. The important thing is to create an uncertainty about it so that the farmers do not count on it and the farmers do not prepare to go the NCDS way. So, I would like to explain what the futures market is about because I know that most people have some kind of a misgiving because there was a time when only the traders and, if you don't mind my using a casteist word, only the traders of a certain caste, indulged in the futures market, vaiyada bazaar or whatever you call it. And because the producer was not associated with those futures market, the idea came that this is a thing in which one indulges, when you have no commodity at all; a trader who does not produce even a gram of wheat would actually deal into thousands of tonnes of wheat, merely on the futures market, talking on the telephone. And that is why I am surprised that our friend from Rajasthan also used this concept because these are people from Rajasthan who made really the Vaiyada Bazaar most popular. But the idea that the Vaiyada Bazaar is gambling, is wrong. I would like to say in very few words what the futures market represents for the farmers. Sir, the farmer produces grains; let us just say grains; I will not talk about other commodities. If he sows one grain, he produces a thousand grains. That is the kind of surplus he produces. Now, try to understand why a person who is able to multiply his seed a thousand times becomes indebted and why is it that he is forced to commit suicides. So, he produces grain at one point of time and in one place. He knows, every farmer knows that four months after the harvest, his product will get a good price; it will be good because that is what the traders take advantage of. He knows that the price in his place may not be good, but the price in Delhi will be good. But he is not able to take it because he does not have the means to transfer the wheat to Delhi. Now, what the futures market does is, and through the technology, this is not a great step of magnificence by some generous party, it is technology which comes to the help of the poor and the technology has come because technology now permits you to have on a small screen the spot price, the price at which you can sell it today. (Contd. by 3r -- VP)


SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): For example, I am sowing cotton. When I sow cotton, I know my crop will be coming after six months when it will be ready. I find out what will be the price after six months. And, if I am not happy with that, and I find that the futures market trend shows that the prices are going to increase after that, I can make a sale six months later and get that price. There is absolutely no doubt about it. If I lock, using Shri Amitabh Bachchan's expression and say, lock for six month's price, .. (Interruptions).. I thought you will understand if I use Amitabh Bachchan's expression. If I lock it for six months price, then, I will get that price. This is the first time that the farmer will be able to get the price that he desires. This means that the farmer produces material commodity with farm utility ..(Interruptions).. but, he will not be able to add time utility and space utility to that. The futures market makes it possible for the farmer to add time and space utility without investing the money or the effort to store it or transport it. So, the idea that the commodity exchanges have resulted in inflation is, entirely, incorrect. I have very closely studied the subject, and I can show you that the commodities that are dealt with on the futures market have shown increase in prices, but so have the commodities which are not dealt with in the commodities market at all. So, futures market themselves do not lead to any kind of inflation.

Finally, the prices are always determined by long-term supply and demand. It is not by the artificial speculation because for some time, I think, the prices might go up, otherwise,the prices do not go up. Ultimately, if somebody bids like that and tries to increase the price, he will regret it because he will one day has to deliver. So, today the kind of futures market we have in India, most of them operate in such a way that, at least, 40 per cent of the transactions are finally delivered. When the ratio is as high as 40 per cent it is not possible for anybody to gamble in futures market. Those who think it is a gamble, I think, they should really understand what the mechanism is. I would say that for the farmers it is a great thing. For the last 25 years, I have been fighting so that the farmers might get a remunerative prices or that they might get the prices that they desire. No Government changed it. The Congress Government did not change it for 50 years. Even the NDA Government did not change it. So, the first time, the ultimate God of poor people and the masses is the technology. It is technology which is coming to the help of the poor and that is what is frightening some people who have been traditionally the enemies of the farmers.

Let me make it very clear about futures market. If the Government has banned the futures market in Punjab, I do not know whether it is banned or suspended, but the farmers are determined and we will make a formal announcement on the subject. Mr. Minister may please note that on the 17th March, we will make an announcement that until you remove this ban, we will not give a grain of wheat to the Food Corporation of India. We made an announcement like that when Shri Chaturanan Mishra was the Minister for Agriculture. He knows it or his files will show that not a grain of wheat reached the mandis at that time. And, you are facing a similar situation this time also. Don't rush to conclusions. And don't rush to form opinions about futures market simply because some people with old mindset are saying that it is only gamble and that is what is causing the rise in prices.

Sir, at the end I would say, I thank the hon. Member, Shri Syed Azeez Pasha for bringing this in this discussion in a rather quiet and sedate atmosphere of a Friday afternoon. Despite it being the time for the Private Members' Resolution, Sir, you will find that the discussion has been more thorough and in-depth than you can expect in the normal period, in the normal time of legislative business.

The procurement has been directly working against the farmers because the procurement prices have always been less than the market price. The PDS has never helped the poor. The PDS has only helped the pipeline. And the future market is one thing, which is going to realise the dreams of many years or decades of the farmers. Please don't try to play with it without understanding what futures market is about. Sir, I am aware that the Government has appointed out a committee to take a decision on the futures market. (Continued by 3S)


SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): I do not want to elaborate on this subject because I happen to be a member of that Committee, but I am surely convinced that this Government will be able to take a right decision and follow a policy of freedom rather than additional restrictions. Don't intensify the Licence Permit Quota Raj. If you want to ensure the good of the poor, issue food stamps and make big, big ration shops and distribution of foodgrains free. That would be the cheapest way. The only problem would be, you would have to send home some of the salaried staff that are making money now.

The last thing I would like to say, Sir, is if you have doubt in what I am saying, I will make one proviso. If the Sixth Pay Commission's Report comes out during this financial year, and as I expect, the Government will accept that, the Government will not accept any measures that are calculated to promote productivity, then, by this time next year, our rate of inflation will have gone up to nine per cent. If anybody is prepared, I am prepared to take a wager on this. Going by the kind of policies that we are following, the populist policies, the so-called aam aadmi polices, and the irrational decisions like on procurement and on Public Distribution System and the Futures Market, I see that the rate of inflation by next time this year would be something like nine per cent. Thank you very much, (Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now, the Hon. Minister will speak on the Resolution.

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֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ־ ָ֯ ״ ־ֿ ß 滵 ָ ϳ־ ӲӬ ֓Ԇ Ӥ ֳꌟ ִֻ ׾ֳ ֟ ӓ ׻֋ ֻ ֮֕ ß 滵 ר ָ ־ ָ֯ ֮ ϳ־ ֛, ֮ ֵ ֤õ . ׳֕ߟ ֟ 2.3.2007 ׾ֿ ״ן ֚ օ ״ן ֟ ֣-֣ -֮ ß 滵 ָ ϳ־, פ , ֡ ֵ֮ ߅ ֣ ֵ֤ ָ֕ ֵ ֻ ֵ֤ ָ֯ ß ןֲ׬֟ ׻֋ ֋ , ֟ :-

, ֵ֤ ָ֕ ֵ 23.1.2007 ֡ ָ ߮ ֻ֮ כ ֓ ԟ (1) ֻ כ ֓ כ ׻״֙ (2) ֻ֮ כ ӛ ߾י ֓ ׻״֙ (3) ֻ֮ ֻ כߕ ֓ כ ׻״֙ ־ֿ ß ֮ ӲӬ ֳ ֵ ׾֤ֆ ִ֯ ֮ ָ ԟ 23.1.2007 ϓ׻֟ 滵 ָ Ӥ ׮֤ פ ֵ֤ ָ֕ ֵ ֵ֟ ן ײ֮ ׾֤ ֋ ׾֤֋ ׻֋ ן ִ֯ ִ ֋

֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ֤ 27.2.2007 ֵ֤ ָ֕ ֳ ߮ ֓ ׮֤ פ ־ֻ և ׾֤ ֋ ֓ ׻ ֋ ֡ ֵ֤ ָ֕ ֵ ֮ ֻ ׾֤ֆ ׻֋ ן ֮ ֋ ß ֻ ׾֤ֆ ӲӬ և וֿ֮ ן ֋ ֻ וֿ֮ ׮֮֯֙ ן ֋

ֳ֯ן , 滵 ר ִֻ ֤ ֤õ ֮ ؓ֟֋ ֮֮ߵ ֤ ֮֟ ֻ ֪ ß 滵 ר ֮ ٟ֯, ֤ ֮ ָ־֙, ӟָ™ߵ 滵 ר ָ ٟ֯ ָ (3U ָ ֿ:)


ןֻֻ ׸ (֟) : ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , 滵 ר ׻֋ ָָ ָ ֋ ֋ ָ ָָ ־ֿ ß 滵 ר ֮ ָ֮ 滵 ר ׻֋ ֵ֟ ָ ָ ֲֻ֟ ר և , ָ֕ ײ ׻֋ ׬ ֪֮ ׸ߕ ֋ , ֵ֟ ָ ߴ- ֵ֙ ֵ , ֻ ׮ֵԟ ָ ןֲӬ ֵ ֵ ֣ ָָ ָ ֋ ֋ ׾׳֮ ׸ִþֺ ׯ֔ ߮ ߮ ֮ ֻ 滵 ãָ ָ־֙ ֮ ֵ ׾׳֮ ָ ߮ ֻ ־ִָ, 2006 ֬ ָ־֙ ֮ ԅ ï™ ָָ ־ֿ ß 滵 ר ֣ ָߤ ־ԕ׮ ׾ָ֟ ֻ ֲ֕ ׻֋ ־ֿ ֋ , ӟ , ֯ ִ֬ ֤ ߕ ֿ ß׾֟ ֯ (ִ֯)

֤ ߕ ֿ : ָֻ ָ , thank you. כ֮ , ִ ָ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ٙ֯ ָ ־ֻ֟ ־ֲ , ָ ־֕ ֟ ֵ֤ ָ ־֮ פ ֋ , ָ ֻ ֋ ָ ֵ , ָ-ӓ ֟ ֟ևՅ ߴ֟ ׮ֵ Ӭ ׿ֵֻ ߕ ߣ Ӆ ִ֟ ָ ־ֿ ֵԾ ׻֋ ֵԾ , ִֻ ָ ֮֮ߵ ָ Ӥ ֮ , ֤֟ ֋֮ , ֠ ָ ֱֻ ׾ָ֓ ִֻ ָ -׾ָ֓ , ָ ֟ ׿ֵֻ ߕ ו ָ ßֻ ֵ , ִ ׻֋ ֵ Ӆ ׿ֵֻ ߕ ֻ֟ , ֮֮ ׻֋ ָ ָ ו ָ ßֻ ֵ , ׻֋ - ׯ֮ , ֮ ָ ֣ ֮֮ߵ ָ ָ ؛ ָ ָ 같 ֙ ָ ؛ ֕ և ֱ ָ ֟ և ״׮Ù , և և , ֮֮ ֤ ׮Ե ָ ֋ ־֕ ָ ؛ ֕ ֮ և ֱ , Ӳ׬֟ ֳ ִִ ߕ ָ -׾ָ֓ ֋ ָ ָ ֙ ָ ָ ָݵ ֕ ֵ ָ ָ ֙ -׾ָ֓ , ָ ָ ։ ֮ ß־ ֟ ֟ ָ ָ ָ כÙ֮ Ù , ߕ ֮֟ ,  ָ ֵָ֮ ֮ ֕ ו֮֟ , ô ׾֬֋ ״ֻ֟ ײ כÙ֮ Ù ׻״֙ և פ , ֵ֕ և ֮֙ ֋ (3w/LP ָ ֿ:)


֤ ߕ ֿ (֟) : ֕ ָ֕ ׮ֵֻ כߕ ִ ֜ , ָ ֤ô֟ ֿ֮ ֙ , ײ כÙ֮ Ù ֻ ָ-ӓ ߕ ֮֙ ׮ֵֻ և ִ ֋Ӆ ֵ ֵ֟ ֿ֮ ֙ և ִ ׻ , ָ ֻ ״ֻ , ִ , ָߤ , ָߤ , Ù , ָ և ִִ ߕ , ו֮ ׻֋ ܟ ׻֋ ־֮Դ ׻י ׾ֻ 껛 ֵ֤ ֋Ӆ ֕ ִ ֮֟ ָ֮ ֕ և ֕ ִ ֤ ֌ ׯ ָ ָֻ , . ֿ ֟ , Ͼֻ ֟ , ִִ ֮־֤ օ ײ ֮ ִ֮ ֕ ƴ , և ־ֻ , ָ ֟ ׸ֻ ꅠ ִִ ߕ, ו֮ ֮֯ ֈ פ , ָ ֯ ָ , ܟ ײ ״ֻ ߕ ָ ..(־֮֬)..ָ, ִ֟ ׸ ָ ִ ֟ ִִ ߕ ָ ܟ ܟ ֟ ײ ֋߅

ֳ֯ן : ״. ߕ ֿ ֯ ׾֤ ?

֤ ߕ ֿ : ֳ֯ן , ֤ ֮ 껵֮ ׾֤

ןֻֻ ׸ : ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ־֮ֆ ִ֮ ָ ָָ ֮ ײֻ ӟָ ֮ ֣ ֲ-ֲ ֺ ֛ , ָ ֯ ֤ ־֮ֆ ִ֮ , ָ ָָ, ... ָָ ִ ß ֪֮ ״ֻ ־ ָ ָ ߴ֟ ׮ֵ Ӭ ֟ ׻֋ ؓ֟ Ϭִ֮ӡ ֟ ֤ ֟ և ֮ ֮ ӟָ ֮ ֯ ־֮ֆ ִ֮ , : ֳ֯ן ֯ ӕ Ϥ֮ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֮ ֯

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ׻ֵ

The Resolution was, by leave, withdrawn.




ִ֤ Ͼֻ (֕ã֮) : ֳ֯ן , ֯ ֤ ֳָ þ ֓ ֵօ ֯ ֮־֤ ֯ ׮ִ׻֟ ß

() ֕ã֮ ִו-٣ ׯ֔ ֕ , ו ֚ ןֿ֟֠

ֹãֻ ֛ ֮֕֟ߵ

() ׻ ™ ֛ ָ ֕ã֮ , ׾ֿ

֮ܵ ֮֟ ֻ ֆ Ϥ֮ ׬ ֟ ֟

() Ӹ֮֟ ׾ ™ߵ ֟ ֮

(v) ן ׌ ֵ ן ׌ ֮ ׸ֵ ™ߵ ֟ ֮

(v) ִ ֟ ™ߵ ֟ ֮

(v1) ֕ ߵ ָָ ׮־

" ֳ ָָ ֻ֛-֕ , ֕ ֮ ßӟ׸ ָ֬ , ӿ֮ ֕ã֮ ֕ ־ ߾ ׾ ׻֋ ֕ ׾ֿ

ֳ֯ן , ß ׾ֿ ֤ ֮ ԟ (nb/3x ָ )


ִ֤ Ͼֻ (֟) : ֳ֯ן , ׾ֿ ֤ ֮ ֟ ֟ ֕ã֮, ֯ ӟ ׌, ׌ ߸ ã֮ ֕ã֮ ן ߸ ߸֮ֆ ֆ ָ ӟ ֤֕ ׻֋ ӑ , ֟ Ӭ 韾 ӑ ֤֕ ֤ ָ ߴֆ ׻֋ ֕ã֮ ߸ , ׮ , ָ֮ , ֤ ָ ִָ֟ ׻֋ ֮ ָֻ ֮ ֕ã֮ ״ ֲ ֤ , , ֮ ׻ֵ օ desert , , ֮ , , ָ , ־֕ ־֮, ֆ ָ ׻֋ ֮ ־þ , ߸ ־֮ ״ ִ֮ ׮־ ֕ã֮ ӟ , , desert , ߙ ߮ ֮ ־ 50 ֻ ׸֛ ֻ 7 ֻ ֛, 43 ֻ ֛օ ָ ָ֮ ֟ ֛ , ֿ-֮ ֟ , - ֿ ָ ָ ֮ ֛ ָ ָ ܵ ֿ-֮ ָ֤ ֟ ׻֋ פ ֮ Ӹ Ϥ֮ , פ ֮ ִ, ӟ ֣ ֵ , ӟ ֻ ֛ ׻֋ ־֮ פ , ׻ ӟ Ͼ ֕ã׮ֵ ׾ ٣ Ӹ֮ ֛ ֤֮ פ ֤֮ ֟ , ֕ã֮ ״ ָ ֯ , ׻֋ ֮ ִ , ֟ ֮ ֮ ֛օ

ֳ֯ן , ׮־ ֕ã֮ ֮ ӯ֤ - ״ָ֮ desert ״ֻ , desert ׻ݮև , ևÙ , וִ֯ , ״ָ֮ ֻ ״ָ֮ , ָ ־֮ ׾֪ , ָ֮ ֮ , ָ ׻ݮև ־ָ , ָ ֛ ָ ֲ ֯ ֻ ָ ן , ֟ ֲ , ֕ã֮ ߸ ׻֋ , ֕ã֮ ָ֯ ֯ןֵ ׻֋ , ֕ã֮ ָ ãׯ֟ ״ָ֮ ӯ֤ ָ , ׻֋ ֣Ԯ ָ ױ ֮ ן ֋ - ֮־֤

ֳ֯ן : , ֯ ֻ ָ continue ו֋օ Statement by the Minister. 3Y/AKG ָ




ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ןֻֻ ׸) : , ׾ֳ ִ׮֟ ִ֮ ֤ߵ ãֵ ״ן ־ ן־ پ™ ֱ׸ ֵԮֵ֮ ãן ִ֮ ֮ ֌־ ֳ ֙ ָ ֟


MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The House stands adjourned to meet at 11.00 a.m. on Monday, the 12th March, 2007.


The House then adjourned at

five of the clock till eleven of the clock on

Monday, the 12th March, 2007.