MS. MABEL REBELLO (CONTD.): I happened to ask some of them, why do you do all this. I asked their parents. They said, 'what can we do; we cannot help it'. They replied that they were so poor and miserable that only by joining those naxalite activities, at least, they could get two square meals. Because of the reason that some amount of money is sent to them monthly, they have joined naxalite movement. This is the problem of unemployment. This is the problem of poverty. (Interruptions)

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, is she supporting naxalism now? I want to know the stand of the Government. (Interruptions)

THE VICE CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please. (Interruptions) Mr. Jothi, please sit down. (Interruptions) She is only saying what people told her. (Interruptions) It is a quotation. She is only saying that.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Sir, there is another problem of law and order. Everybody knows what happened a few days ago. One of our colleagues, a Member of Lok Sabha, was shot dead. All this is happening because of lawlessness. We still do not know as to why it has happened but probably it has happened because of naxalite activity.

Sir, now I come to a very good project of ours initiated by our leader Shrimati Sonia Gandhi, which is her pet project. This project is under the National Rural Employment Guarantee Act (NREGA). Sir, this scheme has been implemented in 200 Districts and almost 1.4 crore households have been benefited by this scheme. Almost five lakh works, especially for water conservation and for creating water bodies have been started. In India, our requirement of water is really very huge. Sir, rains here are never regular. Sometimes, there are heavy rains; sometimes, it is not rain at all. For example, the State of Andhra Pradesh suffered from drought for a period of seven years. So, Sir, we definitely need these water bodies, particularly, in the tribal areas and rural areas, where people after one crop, rain fed crop, migrate to urban cities, and, it is good for people who have to lead sub-human lives. So, Sir, because of implementation of this scheme, it has proved beneficial in so many areas, especially in Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, tribal areas of Central India, and, migration has declined. So, this is really a useful scheme. If they can get real work for 100 days, and, if they can get work for 100 days in their own State; if they are assured of work for these 200 days, at least, they can lead some sort of human life.

Sir, now, I come to my pet subject, 'Education'. What is happening today, Sir? Today, Sir, the two schemes, one relating to education and the other relating to Mid-day Meal are two such schemes, in which not only the Government, but everybody wants to invest in. Large funds have been allocated for these schemes. Today, the mindset of the parents is changing. Today, most of the parents -- even the drivers or Class-IV servants also come to us -- want to send their children to good schools. They do not want to send their children to Government schools. Sir, I can narrate you an incident. Recently, I went to see one of our projects, located deep inside the forests in the tribal areas of Jharkhand. There, the women working in the IFAD project, told me that they have withdrawn their children from the Government schools and were sending them to the private schools. I enquired about the reason for doing so. They said, " , ־֮Դ ֓ ֜֟ " What is happening in Government schools? Whether it is in Jharkhand, whether it is in Chhatisgarh, if there are school buildings, there are no teachers. If teachers are there, building is not there. So, children are frustrated, parents are frustrated. I would suggest the Government to encourage public to start good schools in rural areas, in tribal areas and give them grant-in-aid. If they get grant-in-aid, they can run good schools and these children can get scholarships. So, instead of giving money to construct Government buildings and paying teachers, who do not teach, we should do this. We have got to change our mindset, Sir. (Contd. by 2p-ysr)


MS. MABEL REBELLO (CONTD.): Similarly, you see in cities like Delhi and Mumbai, what are we doing? We are bringing up two sets of citizens; children going to municipal schools and children going to private schools. At the age of five, when children start going to schools, there are two sets of citizens in India. Why do we have this, Sir? In the years to come, this -- two sets of citizens -- will definitely hurt the country. I would say even in the municipal schools, we should involve private people and improve the quality of municipal schools and bring these schools on a par with public schools and give our children good scholarships, so that they have an option to go whichever schools they want to go. It should be like that, so that the children do not have a complex. Today, children are suffering. Some children go to Doon and DPS. And other children go to municipal schools. When they play together, one set of children speak English and wear good clothes, and other set of children are poor and live in miserable conditions. With that complex, they grow, Sir. This is not good for us. Children should grow up as children. Some sort of equality should be there while growing up. This is very, very important. But, Sir, my friend, Mr. Jothi, will never understand it.

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, I am interested in knowing in which school she has studied, municipal or convent.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: I went to a convent school, Mr. Jothi.

SHRI N. JOTHI: You are a Congress person, naturally ...(Interruptions)..

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Yes, that is why I am trying to tell you..(Interruptions).. Let me also tell you that children of drivers and ...(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: What is the necessity of talking...(Interruptions).. What is the necessity of calling upon their leader..(Interruptions)..

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Sir, I have not yielded. (Interruptions) Sir, I have not yielded. (Interruptions) Sir, Mr. Jothi's leader went to a convent school. (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: Sir, what is the necessity of talking about...(Interruptions)... What is wrong? (Interruptions)

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Nothing is wrong. That is why I am saying that everybody should go to a good school. We should not have two sets of citizens. That is what I am trying to propagate, Mr. Jothi.

Sir, there is a large area of Central India where as many as 7 crore tribal people live. They are the ones who are really poor and miserable. They have lost their forest; they do not have land to cultivate. Ninety per cent of them are living on agriculture. Their land is degraded and non-irrigated. Most of them have one acre or two acres of land and it is all rainfed cultivation. They are half-clad and malnourished even today. They live in such inaccessible areas that they do not even have basic facilities like safe drinking water, village roads, electricity, schools, primary health centres, PDS, kerosene, etc. They just do not get them. So much of exploitation is there. Whatever is due to them is taken away from them. Their children are often deprived of mid-day meal and even Anganwadi food supplement because they live in inaccessible areas. Very often they are exploited by the traders. You know, the minute their produce comes, the traders grab it at throwaway prices or at times they have to pay the loans that they have taken ages ago and they remain throughout their lives as bonded labour. This is the state of affairs.

Similarly, institutional finance just does not reach them. The minute they collect minor forest product, the traders just come and take it out. They cannot keep the minor forest product even for a month. And if they keep it, the traders get the prices depressed. They depressed it so much that they are bound to go for distress sale. All this is happening. Why is it happening? Because they do not have institutional finance. I had raised this issue some time ago when the hon. Finance Minister was here. You know, in the whole country, seven crore tribal people live in Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh, Orissa, Jharkhand, and on the borders of Gujarat and Rajasthan, they just do not get institutional finance. (Contd. by VKK/2Q)


MS. MABEL REBELLO (CONTD.): They just do not get institutional finance. I think even two per cent of them do not get it. It is very sad to see their state of affairs, the houses in which they live and how they work. And what is happening these days, most of them come here to metropolitan cities as domestic servants and most of them are girls. Recently, one of the Ministers held a meeting here with all the domestic servants who hailed from Jharkhand. Eighteen thousand of them came for that meeting. Eighteen thousand of them attended that meeting, maybe a month ago, on a Sunday.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): From only one State!

MS. MABEL REBELLO: They cried and told him their plight. Most of them do not get salary; most of them are exploited; first of all, they get a pittance and they are exploited physically; they are exploited sexually; they are exploited in every way; they are even killed and nothing happens. There is Tribal Atrocities Act and all sorts of Acts are there to protect them, but if they go to police station, nobody lodges an FIR.

Sir, I talked about Chhattisgarh. In Chhattisgarh, there were lot of institutions, voluntary organisations, which are doing very good work, not only today, but from pre-Independence days. Because of the activities of these voluntary people, they have become IAS, IPS and all that. But today, the Government of the day of Chhattisgarh for the last 14 months, they are selectively harassing those organisations. That means, they are not interested in helping the poor people. They are not interested to alleviate the sufferings of the poor. They want the poor to remain poor. That is what they are committed to. That is a sad thing. They want these people to remain poor and miserable. That is the problem of the Opposition here. Mr. Jothi has no clue, what is happening. (Interruptions) Sir, I am not yielding. (Interruptions)

ֵ֮ ֻ ָ : ֻ ֯ ָָ ִ ..(־֮֬)..פֵ ׻֋ ..(־֮֬)..֓ ֻ ֯ ָָ ִ ..(־֮֬)..

ֻ ׸ : ֟ ..(־֮֬)..֯ ֟ ..(־֮֬).. Sir, this fellow does not know at all. (Interruptions) Sir, I am not yielding. (Interruptions)

ֵ֮ ֻ ָ : ָӛ ..(־֮֬)..

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ֳ֬ ( ..׸֮) : ״. ..(־֮֬)..֯ ך..(־֮֬)..֯ ״ֻ..(־֮֬)..

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THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: You can reply later. I will give you a chance. (Interruptions) That is enough. (Interruptions)

ֳ֬ : ״. ך..(־֮֬).. Please continue.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Sir, I am not yielding...(Interruptions)... I mean, just shouting and shouting has got no meaning. (Interruptions) I have not yielded. (Interruptions)

ֵ֮ ֻ ָ : ֟և..(־֮֬)..ָָ ..(־֮֬)..֋..(־֮֬)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: That is enough. (Interruptions) She is not yielding. Sit down. (Interruptions) Now, please continue. (Interruptions)

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Sir, what is this? (Interruptions)

ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ : ׻֋ , ׾ֿ ֤ ..(־֮֬)..

׾ ֤ : ֯ ו֋,

. סֵ : ֛ ..(־֮֬).. ߓ ֛ ֟ ..(־֮֬).. ..(־֮֬)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): That is enough. You please continue. Please come to your point. (Interruptions)

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Sir, they are the exploiters and hoarders and they are the ones responsible to keep a section of our people poor and miserable. I say this with responsibility. And this fellow has the courage to oppose me! Sir, they are responsible for lot of people living subhuman life. (Interruptions) Sir, I am not yielding.

SHRI RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD: Sir, I have a point of order.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: No, no. On point of order, you have to yield. (Interruptions) What is your point of order?

SHRI RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD: Sir, sitting in this House, is it fair and just to condemn a State Government? I am asking a question. There are certain rules and regulations. If it is about law and order, if it is about minorities' rights, I can understand. But, in the Motion of Thanks on President's Address, to condemn any State Government, is it fair and just? I am leaving to your kind judgement. My friend is also a senior Member now. She must know the rules of the game. (Contd. by RSS/2r)


SHRI RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD (CONTD.): And have a little temper in your voice and a little sobriety in your criticism. That is all I have to say.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: My brother, Shri Ravi Shankar Prasadji, you first tell your colleagues not to provoke me. It is they who provoked me...(Interruptions)... It is my time to speak...(Interruptions)... You tell them not to provoke me...(Interruptions)... Sir, I am not yielding...(Interruptions)...

ֵָ : ֤ ָ ֲ ֤ ֟ , .... (־֮֬)

ֳ֬ (. .. ׸֮ ) : -, ך ... (־֮֬) , ך ... (־֮֬)

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Sir, today is the International Women's Day. Why are they not allowing her to speak?

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN : Today is the International Women's Day. Don't disturb the woman MP while she is speaking.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: My brother, Ravi Shankar, thank you...(Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Please continue.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: So, Sir, my request is, these 7 crore people who live in Central India, who are deprived of the basic amenities, who are poorest of the poor, being poor for the last so many years, and who are still poor, we need to assist them. Most of them live a sub-human life. We need to take special care of them.

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair.)

Here, I would like to suggest one thing. There has been a special component scheme for the tribals for the last so many years, but it has not yielded the desired results. I would say that all of us have to do some sort of introspection and we need to apply our mind and bring about some innovative schemes to alleviate the sufferings of these tribals so that they can also live a meaningful and quality life. Sir, I am not going to speak much...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You have to conclude now.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: I am concluding, Sir. I would like to conclude my speech by congratulating the UPA Government for some very bold policy initiatives. For instance, they have passed the NREGA, which is benefiting the poorest of the poor, and our Government is committed for the poorest of the poor to bring them above poverty line. But, Sir, we have got to apply our mind. A lot of money is available; a lot of projects are available, but the implementation is very, very poor.....(Interruptions)....

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: We have to conclude the debate by 4 o' clock. The reply is at 4 o'clock. Please conclude.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: I would request the Government to implement these schemes very effectively so that the benefit of these schemes goes to the poor. Thank you. (Ends)

ֳ֯ן : ֮֕ן ֤ , ֯ ׻֋ ֯ 5 ״֮֙ ߙ , 3-4 ֯ ֙ ִֵ ֵ

֮֕ן ֤ : , 5 ״֮֙ ִ֯ օ

ֵ֮ ֻ ָ : ֯ ָ ׸, 35 ״֮֙ ... (־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ֲ ָ ... (־֮֬)

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI: All these parties have exhausted their time, including the Congress Party.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Joshi, the figures are with me, not with you.

֮֕ן ֤ (ײָ) : ֳ֯ן , ֟ ֵ֤ ִֵ ״ֻ, ֯ ֮־֤ ֮֯ ֮ פօ ֟ ߔ ֻ , ߔ ֟ - ֟ ֮ ֛ ã֮ ֵ , ֣ ֟-֟, ֣ ֟ , Ӳָ ֟ , ֟ Ӳָ ֋? Ӳָ ֵ , ׻֋ ֯ ֮־֤ 2S/AKG ָ ֿ:


֮֕ן ֤ (֟) : ִָ ֵ, ׻֋ ֮־֤ ß־ ִ֣Ԯ ֛ ֮֟ ™ן ׳ֳ , ָָ ן֟ ִֻ ָָ ִ ֻ , ִ ָ ָ ָ ֟ , ֻ ָ ָ יֵ ֟օ ֱ יֵ ։, ֱ ։ ָ ֤ ֟ ֮ օ כ 12 14, וִ ׿ ָ ׻

ֳ֯ן , ָ ݵ ֕ , ָ literacy , ֕ , ָ ֻ֟ ֲָ , ֕ , ָ ־ ׿ ׳ֵ֮ ֵ, ־ ׿ և, ֕ ָ ֕ - ֟ ָ™ ֟, , ֮ ָ literacy , ֟ ֟, ֟ 100 ָ literacy ֳ֯ן , ָ development , ִ ֟ ָ™ , , ״ֻ֛֮ ָ֟ literacy ֜ և ָ literacy ߔ և, ֲ ֤֕ ִֵ ֳ ֤֕ ֳ ִ , ֤ ױ ֤֕ ? ֳ֯ן , ֲֻ֟ ָ ֮ פօ ֛ ֛ ֋ ֋ ֕ ָ-ָ ֓ ֋, ָ ֮ פ ֵօ

ֳ֯ן , ִ ֟ և ꆸ ևָ ָ և ֱ 14 և , ׿ , ָ , ָ ָ ֛ ׿ֿá ֻ ־֮Ը - ֮օ ѓ ָ ... (־֮֬) ... disturbance ֟ ָ ָ disturbance ֟ , פ ֮ ... (־֮֬) ... ֮ , ֮ ֮ ֲ ֓ ѓ ֓ ׿ , օ ׸֣ , ֌ ֟ ֳ֯ן , ֕ ֲָ ֜օ ָ, ֜ ߮ ֓ Ը ֋ ߮ ֓ ֋? ָ ׮֯׻֙ ֋ ֛ , ֋ , ׻ ߴ ֋ ֜ ߮ ֻ ו֋, ߮ ֻ ߮ ֻ ֓ ֲ ֻ ֋, ִ Ù ״ֻօ פ ߮ ֓ ׻֋ ֵ , ß֮ ֓ ׻֋ ֵ ß֮ ֓ Ը ֋, ߮ ֋ ֙ ֋, ׯϯָ ֋, ֛ ֋ ֳ֯ן , ֻ ָ grandson , ѓ ֛ ֜ ִֵ ֯ ֬և

(2 ָ ֿ:)


֮֕ן ֤ (֟) : ֯ ָ ָ congratulate , same to you. ֛ same to you. same to you ֵ, ׾ֻ ׮ ֵ? ֤ ָ ָ ֋ ן ֓ -֯ ָ ֋ ֓ , ׻֋ 5 ֛ , same to you. ָ ß֮ ãן ? , ֯ ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮ פ, ֯ ״֛ ߻ פ, ײָ ӛ-ֻ֯ Ù , ָ ־ã ֵ , ֮֮ ֮ , ֓ ֮ ׻֋ ֻ- ߓ ׻ ߓ , ֯ ֮֟ , ? ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : , ֮ ו֋

֮֕ן ֤ : ֯ ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮ פ, ֋ ֮ פ, ׻֋ ֵ , , ֯ ״֛ ߻ , ָ ״֛ ߻ ֓ ״ֻ֟ ֓ ֮ Ù ֮֜ ׻֋ ֟ ׻֋ , ָ֟ ָ ָ֟ , ֓ ֟

ֳ֯ן , ß־ ִ֣Ԯ , ָ ָָ ֟ ָ ֮ օ ָ ֯ ֮ ֯ ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮, ״֛ ߻ , ֯ ָ ֻ , ָ ׾ָ֓ ֛օ , ֯ ֯ כ 14 ־ã ָ ׻ , ֛-֛ ו֮ ״ֿ֮ ׻֋ ֋ ֟ - ߿ӛ , ָ ֋ ״ֿ֮ ׻֋ ֟ ֻ֟ ָ ֟ ֟ , ׻֋ ֯ ׮־ ֕ ׿ ־ , per capita income , ָ foreign investment , ָ infrastructure , ָ ֺ ׾ָ֓ ױ ֯ ־-׿ ׳ֵ֮ ״֛ ߻ , ָ ׳ֵ֮ ֋ , - , ָ ׾ָ֓

ֲ ֣ ֯ ֮ פ, ׻֋ ֯ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

(2 /ߋ־ ָ )


SHRI PYARIMOHAN MOHAPATRA (ORISSA): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, I rise to oppose the Motion and I have many grounds to do so. First, there is no mention in the Address of reservation for women, either in legislatures or in jobs. I am surprised that there is a demand for 30 per cent reservation for women; whereas, 50 per cent of our population are women. I wish and I demand that political parties should give 50 per cent of the seats to women. As late Biju Patnaik had reserved 30 per cent jobs for women in Orissa, which is continuing till today, we should have reservation for women in the Central Government as well as State Governments. I oppose the Motion because there is no mention of what the Government proposes to do to combat inflation. There is no mention of any specific steps to contain inflation. I see some callousness in saying that supply always takes some time to catch up with demand. Then what is your intervention? Why should there be a Government? I oppose it because there is no mention of how the Government proposes to tackle serious environmental issues which will arise from the ultra mega power projects. As all the power producing States are suffering, at present, from serious pollution, with these ultra mega projects, the situation will become worse. This Address contains nothing about it. There is no mention of how agricultural land will be provided for food security; how they will protect the agricultural land from industries which guzzle too much of land and provide very little employment. Will the Government please consider having some measuring rod to measure and identify industries and give those industries priority which are employment intensive? I oppose it because there is no mention of revision of royalty on minerals nor its basis and thus depriving mineral-rich States from coming out of debt trap and ensuring development of their poverty stricken people. At the same time, this Government is trying to make money at the cost of the States by imposing export duty on minerals. On iron ore, States get royalty of Rs. 13/- to Rs. 25/-. This Government is trying to impose Rs. 300 per tonne of export duty on iron ore. It is a shameful thing. There is no mention of any special steps for differently abled persons. There is no mention of the Paradip in Orissa as a regional campus of the proposed Maritime University, since the Maritime Academy has been running there for the last 15 years. My colleagues from both sides have placed a lot of wisdom on the President's Address and I do not want to repeat any of those arguments. I will confine myself to only serious contradictions which I find in the Address between intentions which are expressed there and the programme of action. In para 3, you define growth as "a means by which we hope to generate more employment, distribute incomes more equitably, across social groups and regions and liberate the poorest of the poor from the scourge of poverty, ignorance and disease". In para 5, you talk of your commitment to inclusive growth and in para 6, you not only talk of faster, inclusive and equitable growth but also of creating productive employment opportunities across the country in all sectors of the economy. (Contd. by 2W)


SHRI PYARIMOHAN MOHAPATRA (contd.): Now these are certainly very laudable objectives. Let us see what your Programme of Action is to meet your commitments, particularly to the poorest of the poor, poor regions and the poor social groups like the SCs and STs. Currently, according to the National Sample Survey Organisation, as per the 61st round figures, the highest number of poorest or poor people in rural areas in India is in Orissa, where 57 per cent are earning below Rs.12 per day and 31 per cent are earning below Rs.9 per day. Chhattisgarh comes at a close second with 55 per cent and 24 per cent respectively. Besides this, Orissa has a large population of poor social groups; that is, 38 per cent of them belong to the SCs and STs. As a region, it is highly underdeveloped in terms of infrastructure, thanks to the persistent negligence by the Centre over the last six decades. So, as per your commitment in the Address, one would expect Orissa, being the poorest of the poor States, to receive special attention in infrastructure, education, health, allocations for the disadvantaged social groups and a special allocation being a very backward region. What have you done? You have made a drastic cut in allocation for Railways, amounting to over Rs.4 lakh crores, thus jeopardising a very large industrial investment programme in the private sector in the State,. There is also no special allocation for National Highways within the State. A little less than Rs.100 crores out of more than Rs.9,000 crores has been made for airport upgradation. Now that is your infrastructure plan for the poorest of the States. And what about education? In para 14, you talk of building new Institutions of Excellence. And for the poorest State of Orissa, having a very large percentage of SCs and STs, you have not only denied any IIT, IIIT and IIMs, but you have also managed to take out the National Institute of Science to the neighbouring State of West Bengal, as a reward to your alliance partner. Your talk of new Central Universities is a sham because for the poorest State of Orissa, you have not only not put up a single Central University in the last sixty years, but you are also trying to deny setting up of a Tribal University, for nearly 1 crore tribal population, which was visualised by late Biju Patnaik in the early 90s. Unfortunately, the Minister of Human Resources Development has denied in a written reply that there was any proposal for a Tribal University mooted by the Education Consultants of India, a constituent of his Ministry, though I have myself seen the three volumes of that Report. That is the state of affairs regarding infrastructure and education.

Now, Orissa being the poorest State, you should have declared at least 28 out of 30 districts for the Backward Region Grant Fund, applying the same principle as adopted in the case of Bihar. But you have done it only for 19. Not only that you did not do so, but you have added insult to injury by adding 8 KVK districts in the list only with a view to reduce the special allocation which was being given for KVK districts. How the poorest of the poor in the KVK districts feel insulted by all these disruptive statements your Government has put into the mouth of your Ministers including even the hon. Prime Minister. You did not spare the hon. Prime Minister even, so much for your commitment to the poorest of the poor, poor regions and the poor social groups! As per the Special Package for the districts worst affected by farmers' suicides, which you have stated in para 17, it appears to me that the only way the poorest States like Orissa, Chhattisgarh, Bihar, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, etc. can attract special allocation is by inducing our poor farmers to commit mass suicides. (Continued by 2X)


SHRI PYARIMOHAN MOHAPATRA (CONTD.): Perhaps, that will attract your attention. Special packages, special allocations will come; otherwise, no. As for education and health, you are unable to double the three per cent of GDP on education due, perhaps, to scarcity of resources. When you can offer huge tax and duty concessions to industrial houses of the country in the SEZs, why do you shy away from giving anything to the poor? And you keep on trying again and again to withdraw subsidies for the poor. If you are not going to make the poorest of the poor the focus of all your programmes, kindly do one thing. Allow entire areas of poor States like Orissa, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, etc. to be declared as SEZs so that the poor who are migrating now do not migrate. Their organs are being traded; they are being killed; their skeletons are being sent abroad. You want to earn foreign exchange! You can earn foreign exchange and the poor can at least get a reasonable price for their body parts. And you continue gloating over a below one per cent increase in the allocation for education; you can keep on gloating over creating a National Rainfed Area Authority without examining why ICRISAT failed to deliver; you can gloat over your historic Bill to provide rights of land to STs while you allowed the same facility to the exploiters, non-tribals, who have taken away their lands in valleys and foothills and have then chased them into the jungles and hill-slopes to exploit them further. I am very sorry that is what we have done and you have made us a party to it. You can gloat over unleashing a second Green Revolution without any indication of how to achieve it. You can gloat over having created a law for micro, small, medium industries while, at the same time, taking away another large list of items from the reserved list. I am sorry to say that the poor have no pride of place in your scheme of things. You have not cared to talk about the poor village artisans, toy-makers, craftsmen and the like. You would like large houses to spread out to retail trade in rural towns and villages to take away jobs of small shopkeepers and seriously affect the prospects of marketing of lakhs of Self-Help Groups which have been created. Surprisingly, your Allies in West Bengal have signed a MoU with Reliance for retail trade. You want to open the retail sector to FDI. Please state your true intentions in the Address and not shed crocodile tears for the poor. Then, we will understand. You have already wasted three years in only talking about employment. And now you talk of productive employment across regions, across sectors. What is employment? You have given no hope for the educated unemployed. You have given no hope for the rural people. (Interruptions)

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: What is happening in Orissa? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy, please. There is no time. (Interruptions) Please. We have to complete before 4 o'clock. Please conclude. (Interruptions) Mr. Narayanasamy. (Interruptions) You please conclude. (Interruptions)

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SHRI PYARIMOHAN MOHAPATRA: Sir, I have said that Orissa today is the poorest State, with 57 per cent of its people earning less than Rs.12 per day. And what are we doing? Through this great National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme, ensuring 100 days' wage employment, all that you are ensuring is an earning of below twelve rupees per day. Please calculate. You are trying to bring all the people in the rest of India down to the level of Orissa.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. I have already informed the House.

SHRI PYARIMOHAN MOHAPATRA: I am concluding with one sentence, Sir.

In your quest for vote-bank politics, growth will be for the rich, for the affluent among the disadvantaged and for more affluent regions. With your * one wonders how the poor in this country can ever hope to lead a decent life. (Ends)

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SHRI SYED AZEEZ PASHA (ANDHRA PRADESH): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, I rise to express my views on the Motion of Thanks moved by Dr. Karan Singhji. Sir, while delivering his speech before the joint sitting of the Members of both the Houses of Parliament, the hon. President has highlighted several major achievements of this Government. The major achievements are: the Right to Information Act, the National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme, the Scheduled Tribes

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(Recognition of Forest Rights) Act and then the Central Educational Institutions (Reservation in Admissions) Act which provides for reservation of seats for Other Backward Classes in higher educational institutions. Certainly, these are very laudable. But, unfortunately, there are several failures on the part of the Government. Many of the promises which they have made in the National Common Minimum Programme have not been fulfilled. For example, they have not brought forward the Bill to reserve 1/3rd seats for women in legislatures. They have also not brought forward the Bill to provide for national security to the unorganised labour. I don't know whether the draft Bill is ready or not. So, there are the things which they have not fulfilled. The Budget has also not come up to our expectations. The abnormal price-rise has created a lot of havoc because the hard-earned income of the common man is eroded due to this price-rise. You know that for the past 18 months, there has been 45 per cent rise in prices which is really unbearable. Even though the Government has allocated some funds for agricultural growth, I don't know whether we are going to achieve the target of four per cent growth in agriculture. While we are talking about agricultural growth, we are not addressing the problems of peasants' distress and farmers' suicide. The Government is supposed to solve these problems by taking effective steps. For water bodies, we are taking loan from the World Bank. But, we are quite sure that they are going to put certain conditionalities like privatisation of water resources and supplies. We should be careful about it.

Now same is the case with education, which has become bad to worse. Now, we are seeing that privatisation and commercialisation of education is at its peak. Sir, a country cannot advance if the enrolment does not touch 20 per cent. At present, we are seeing that in the age group of 17-23, only seven per cent enrolment is there in higher education, which is not a good sign.

Now, coming to the Sachar Committee's Report, I would like to say that this Report is really an eye-opener which says about the wretched conditions of the Muslim community. Now, the Government is talking about affirmative action. But, unfortunately, this affirmative action is not getting concretised in the shape of giving constitutional guarantee under article 16(4). So, we have to do something in this regard; otherwise, it will also meet the same fate which the Gopal Singh Committee met.

Sir, now coming to the problems of my State, I would like to say that there are several irrigation projects in my State which are pending with the Central Government. Sir, due to regional imbalances, the feeling of separation has creeped into our State. So, I insist upon the UPA Government to take some major irrigation projects as national projects. Then, there are two-three other problems. Now, we are importing fertilisers from abroad. In my State, the Ramagundam Fertiliser Plant has been closed due to some problems about the pricing policy. So, we feel that there is an immediate need that the Government should correct this pricing policy and reopen the Ramagundam Fertiliser Plant. Now, we have seen that recently a cement plant at Adilabad is also closed.

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Then, in the Railway Budget, we are very sorry to say that Andhra Pradesh has got a very bad deal and all the Members of Parliament represented this matter to the hon. Prime Minister and we requested him to at least give a commitment for the establishment of a coach factory in Khazipet, which is a long-standing demand.

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SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM (TAMIL NADU): Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, for allowing me to speak. I welcome the Address of the President of India for one good reason. In the Address, the President has declared that this Government attached greater importance to the social justice. Sir, there are also other factors --- like the President declared that this Government attached greater importance to higher education in the country. Sir, an assurance is also given -- that public finance would be managed with prudence and that the Government had identified factors which were leading to inflation and price rise and the Government's vow to insulate people from being affected by inflation irrespective of the fact that there is fluctuation in the oil prices globally.

Sir, it is also heartening to learn that an independent Ministry for Women and Child Development has been created. But, Sir, we are disappointed that reservation for women in the legislation is not declared in this Address of the President. Sir, we, the DMK Party demand that the 33 per cent reservation for women should be made and in that regard, we also conducted a massive rally of the Women Wing of the Party in all the district headquarters of Tamil Nadu. It was a largely attended rally, all over Tamil Nadu, by the women on the 10th February, 2007. All these rallies were conducted by the Party with the legitimate expectation that this announcement would be made at least in this Session of Parliament.

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: Why do not you insist that in the Cabinet? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. You have to appreciate it, actually. (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: I am not opposing it; in fact, I am supporting it. (Interruptions)

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: For the first time, the AIADMK is supporting the DMK. (Interruptions)

SHRI N. JOTHI: We are pioneers in this. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please continue, Mr. Shunmugasundaram.

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: Sir, in Tamil Nadu, there are a lot of investments taking place and there is a tremendous growth in the IT industry. But, Sir, the growth in other sectors is not keeping pace. The IT in Tamil Nadu has recorded a tremendous growth. (Contd. by kls/3a)


SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM (CONTD): Sir, in other sectors of education there is not much growth, particularly in science, the basic science subjects. There are no takers for science subjects in colleges and educational institutions. Sir, the Government has announced setting up of the Indian Institute of Science for Education and Research in three places, namely, Kolkata, Chandigarh, and one other place. I demand and I request that one such Institute, the Indian Institute for Education and Research, should be established at Chennai because the basic science is very important. When this Government has assured that highest importance will be given to education, this one aspect has to be looked into. Sir, the President's Address also declared the implementation of the Rajendra Sachar Committee Report. On behalf of the DMK, we welcome this Report because we always support the minorities and, Sir, minorities support us in all our elections. In the last Lok Sabha elections, we were able to win all the 40 seats in Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry. In the subsequent elections to the local bodies ...(Interruptions)...

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: With the help of so many alliances! ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI N. JOTHI: The High Court has set aside it ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: Our success is 85 per cent in the local body elections. ...(Interruptions)... We recorded 85 per cent success irrespective of somebody approaching the court. ...(Interruptions)... The minorities are always supporting us. ...(Interruptions)... That is our tradition and that is our culture in Tamil Nadu. Sir, there is no religious disparity against any religious group. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: It is only a minority vote bank. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: All religious groups always live in peace and harmony in Tamil Nadu Irrespective of the religious faith they profess. They visit other religious places like Nagore. Nagore is frequented by persons belonging to other religious faith. The same thing happens in religious places like Vellangani and Avadi. These are places of pilgrimage even for those persons who profess other religions. Sir, communal harmony is prevalent. That is why, Sir, we welcome the implementation of the Sachar Committee Report. I have been always telling that had the Babri Masjid been in Tamil Nadu it would not have been demolished. That is the attitude of the Tamils. Sir, we always live in peace. Sir, there is one mention while referring to the foreign policy to Sri Lankan problem. ...(Interruptions)... That is a very important problem. It has to be resolved...(Interruptions)... And unless it is resolved there would not be ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: Sir, Sri Lankan problem has to be resolved through a negotiated settlement.

Sir, with these words, I welcome the President's Address. Thank you. (Ends)

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