PREVIOUS HOUR

MP/2Z/3.00

Ӭ ֤֕ (֟) : ָָ ָ ß־ ֵ ֵ , ו -ñן ϳ־ ָ߲ ָ ֛ , ׻֋ - ָ߲ ִָ ָ ֕ ֟֋ , ָָ ׾ֱ ֵ ָָ ֵ ֺ

, ׳ֳ ִ֬ ™ߵ ִ ָ ָ ׬׮ִֵ ֱ ָ ֵ וֻ ֻ ߴ 1.4 ׬ ׸ָ ֵ֤ ֲ ֳ 25 ןֿ֟ ԟ ֳ 25 ֤ ָ ׿ָ ִ ֻ 1.4 ׸ָ ֻ פ ָ ָ ֮ , ֵ ֱ ߸ פ֮ ׸֣ : ߴ ׾ßָ ־ֿ , ָ ֻ ֺ

, ׳ֳ 12 ־ ׿ ׳ֵ֮ ֬Ů ָ ֵ ӟԟ ֣״ ֬״ ׿ ׻֋ ־י ׮׬ֵ ׬ ר ָߵ ִ , ָӟ ֳ ׾ֵֻ֪ ־ã ֕ߵ ׾ֵֻ֪ ֤ և, ָָ, ׾֢-׾߮ ֮֟ ֯ ׾ֵֻ֪ ׿ ֤֮ , ֬Ů ָ ֵ ד֟ ֵ ֮ ֵ֮֮ ֳ ׾ֵֻ֪ ߤָ ׮׿֟ ֺ

ֳ֯ן , ־ ׿ ׳ֵ֮ ִ֬ ד֟ ן, ד֟ ֮֕ן, ׯ֔ ܵ ִֵ ֻ ׻ֆ ׿֟ ֵ , פ ֵ֮ ־ ֵ ֋, ָ֤֟ ׿, ׮ָָ ֮֟ , ו ָ ֺ ָ ׿ָ : ָָ ׾ֿ ֮ ֺ ָ ֺ

™ן ׳ֳ ׮־ ֜ ֤ ֤ ר ֮ ֵ ֜ ִ , ֵ ן ֮ ן ָָ ָ ֺ , ׳ֳ ֓ ״߮ ֮ և ֮ ׸ָ ֵ , ָ ה֮ ׻֋ ߻ ָ ־ ӓ ̴߮ ֕ ָ ֮ ֲ֤ ֋, Ԡ ֲ֤ , ִ 25 30 ןֿ֟ , ו֮ ִӟ 㻴 ֤ ׿ָ ֛ Ӿ ֵֻ֮ ֛ ֿ ֲָ ߾֮ ߮ ֲ֕ ֛ , : ָָ ״߮ ֮ ׾ֵ ֮ؓ֟ ֺ ֵ ֕ ֱ ݵ ̴߮ ֛ , ״-ָ ̴߮ ״߮ ֮ ׾֟׸ ִõ ִ֮֬ ֺ ֪֮ ִõ ָ Ϥ ֲ ֮ ִ֕ ֙ ָָ , ֮ ָ , ָ ֵ־֟ ״߮ ߮-߮ ּ , ָ פ ֳ ׸ָ ָ ִ օ ֵ ָָ ָ ֳ Ϥ ״-ָ ֮ , ״߮ ֮ ״ ֲֻ , ָ ֵ ֪֮ ֟׮ֳԸ , ו ֤ ֜ ֮ ֕ ֮ ָ ֟֋ , ֮ ֯ ۠ ֋߅ (3A/ASC ָ ֿ:)

ASC-MKS/3A/3.05

Ӭ ֤֕ (֟) : ׳ֳ -24 ָָ ִו ֵ ד֟ ןֵ, ד֟ ֮֕ןֵ, ׯ֔ , ܵ, ֆ ֓ ִו, þד ٣ ֿ׌ ׬ ֤ ִ֬ ֯ ִ֬ ֮֟ ִו ӓ ֻ֟ ֲ ִו ӓ ֻ֟ ִו ֵ ֿ , ֵ֟ , ׻ ִ֮ ִו ӓ , ן־֤, Ծ֤, ־֤ ֤֮ ָ ߜ߮ ֛ ׸ִ ִו ׾ִ֟ ֵ־ , ֕ ִ֮ ֛ ׻֋ ִו ֵ ׻ ִו ׸֟Ԯ ֺ , ו ִ֬ ӟ ֯ ֮֯ ָ , ִִ֟ ִ֕ ֵ֮ ָ 2500 ִ , ֮ ןֵ ֲ֟ ָ ָ ӟ ִ ϴ ӟ ߸ , ӟ ׾֤, ӟ ֤, ӟ ֮ ֤ ֳ ӟ ֮ ןֵ , ֲ ֮ ֲָָ ָ 18 ֲ֟ ֯ , וִ֮ ϴ , ֟ ן , ׸ ִþִ ֵ, ֵָ , ֯ן ָ֕ ֲ . , ֳ ֮ ןֵ ֲ . ן׾߮ ִ֕ ã֮֯ ײ֮ þָ™ ֮ ׮ָ ӟ ֟ ֮֜ ׻֋ ֕ ֮־ָ ӿ ִ , ָ ߓ ָ ֵ־֟ ӓ ָ ֟ , 'ן , ִ֕ ' ֣ ֛ ן ϴ֟ ִ֕ ֮֮ ׳ֵ֮ ֻ֮ ֟ , כ ן־֤ ו֮ ןֵ ֮և , ִ֕־֤ ָָ ד֟ ן, ד֟ ֮֕ןֵ ׻֋ ָ֟ ֻ ֤ ָ ֱ ן ֻ ֤ ָ ׻֋ י֨ ֵ ־ִ֡ ֤֕ ֤ ֕ ϣִ ֟ Ϥ ֵ able candidates not available, ݵ condidates , ׻֋ ָ ֲ ָ ֻ ֜-׻֮ ׻֋ ֕ Ӥ , able candidates ? ׾֮֬ ׿ָֻ ֲ . ֬և ָ ִ֕ ׻֋ ֜-׻֮ ֕ 1935 ֮, ֲ ָ ִ֕ á ִ֕ ֜-׻֮ ָ ״ֻօ ֕ ׸ִ ֳ able candidates , ֢ ו֮ ֮ ֲָ , lacuna , ֕ ָ ֕ ָ lacuna ֵ able but not suitable for the post. Able , ݵ , ו ֤ ׻֋ ݵ , ֤ ݵ , ׻֋ ֕ ָ ֵ ֕ ֻ able suitable , ֠ ֕ able ״ֻ suitable ״ֻ ? (3B/LP ָ ֿ:)

LP/TMV/3.10/3B

Ӭ ֤֕ (֟) : ֕ ֻ և ׻֋ ָ , ֲ ֛ ֵ ֲ ֛ օ ־ ד֟ ן, ד֟ ֮֕ן ׻֋ ֯ ֤ ִ֬ ֮֟ ָ Ϥ ֲ ֮ ִ֕־֤ ֙ ָָ , ָ ֵ־֟, ֲ ֛ Ϥ ܵ ӡ ָ Ϥ ׾ֿ ׳ֵ֮ ֵֻ ֵ օ ֳ ֓ ָ ׸ ׾ֿ ׳ֵ֮ ֮ ָ ִ օ ֕ ֋ ߛ ׿ָ ֋ ߛ ׿ָ , ֓ ׿ָ ָָ ָ ӳ߸ ׾ָ֓ ׾ָ֓ ׻ ׮־ָ ֺ : ϟֿ ָָ ָ߲, ֟, כ, ̻֕, ֆ ֓ ָ ִו ٣ ׾ִ֟ ֣ ֣ ֱ ִו ׾ִ֟ ׿ָ ד֟ ן, ד֟ ֮֕ן ׯ֔ , ִו ׸֟Ԯ ִ֬ ָܵ֬ ֮ ϵ , ֿ ׾ ֣ ׳ֳ ִ֣Ԯ ֮־֤

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MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri Ravula Chandra Sekara Reddy. You have 16 minutes. (Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: You speak only on the subject. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: He has got 16 minutes. Don't disturb him.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, if he goes on disturbing, I will take 30 minutes.

Sir, the hon. President's Address to the Joint Session of the Parliament is most disappointing. I am unable to support the Motion moved by Dr. Karan Singh and seconded by Shri Raashid Alvi. Unfortunately, both of them are not here. I oppose the Motion. If we consider the Address of the hon. President to the Joint Session of the Parliament as a policy document, unfortunately, he read out the earlier programmes of the Government. There is nothing new in this Address. He has just given a balance-sheet of the programmes which are already in the public domain and nothing new. He has not addressed the rising prices. Unfortunately, in our country neither the purchaser nor the consumer is happy with this. The farmers say that they are unable to get remunerative prices; whereas the consumers say that the prices of essential commodities are skyrocketing. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy, the hon. Member is speaking.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: The aam admi in our country is the worst sufferer and the biggest beneficiary is the middleman. The Government is also helping the middleman in usurping the public money. The Address of the hon. President is disappointing in this respect.

As far as the disputes between the States are concerned--when I was sitting in the Central Hall, there was a quarrel between Tamil Nadu and Karnataka Members in the Lok Sabha on sharing the Cauvery water--the Government of India has just forgotten that and it has left it to the fate of the States. Let them quarrel. What will happen? That is the attitude. They want to survive in the Government without resolving the problems which are existing for a long time among the States. We have a problem. I am coming from Andhra Pradesh. We have a problem with Karnataka. We have problem with Maharashtra. The Maharashtra Government was allowed to construct many irrigation projects which would definitely cause problems to the farmers in my State.

SHRI RUDRA NARAYAN PANY: You have a problem with Orissa also.

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SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: When I am speaking about water, it is paani. Naturally, he is interested in it. The problems with the neighbouring States, as far as my own State is concerned, are still there. The Government of India is not taking any steps to resolve the problems. They have definitely forgotten about the interlinking of the rivers. The good work done by Shri Suresh Prabhu has gone waste.

(Contd. by VK/3C)

VK/3C/3.15

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (CONTD): Nothing is happening on the issue of interlinking of rivers. The biggest problem in my State Andhra Pradesh and in the neighbouring States Maharashtra and Karnataka is, the farmers are committing suicide. We have been raising the issue of suicide by farmers in almost every Session. I have the figures of my own State Andhra Pradesh. During the past three years, 3,904 farmers have committed suicide. I am willing to share the information with you about the name of the farmer, date and place where he committed suicide. Sir, 3,904 farmers have committed suicide during the last three years in Andhra Pradesh. (Interruptions). You have not heard me. I said that farmers are committing suicides in Maharashtra and Karnataka also. You are busy in interacting with your colleagues. You are not paying attention to me. This is the problem in Andhra Pradesh also. They are neglecting this issue. The State Government has conveniently forgotten to resolve the problem of farmers. They are allowing the farmers to die. Starvation deaths and suicide by weavers in Andhra Pradesh since last three years, the number is 486. I would like to mention another issue wherein the farmers have been sent to jail. The case is, the State Bank of India files suits against farmers in my own district Mahaboobnagar. Two farmers were given Rs. 5,000/- and Rs. 7,000/- each. They were sent to a civil prison. Having filed a civil suit, EP was filed and the subsistence allowance was deposited by the State Bank of India and farmers were sent to jail. What will happen to those farmers and their families? When they come back to the village, they feel ashamed of being in the jail. How would they live in the same village? This is the attitude of the Government. What is the policy of the Government so far as small and marginal farmers are concerned who are owing some money to the banks? If this is the state of affairs, no farmer will survive in the country. The Government has not addressed this issue. The hon. Prime Minister has announced a package by giving some interest waiver and other things. The relief package announced by the hon. Prime Minister is in no way helpful to the farmers of Andhra Pradesh. Since we have severe drought in the State for four consecutive years,... (Interruptions). What is the benefit? I will read it out. Your own Minister went on record saying this. This is for the information of the hon. Minister who happens to be from my own State, who got elected from Andhra Pradesh and hails from Karnataka. There are 16,45,000 farmers in 16 districts of Andhra Pradesh, who have availed a total loan of Rs. 917 crores and an amount of Rs. 1733.45 crores is the interest accrued on the principal amount of Rs. 917 crores. The package is in no way helpful to the farmers, as the package is applicable to the loan from the period of 1st April to 30th June 2006. But these loans were rescheduled prior to April 2004. What will happen to those farmers? This package is in no way helpful to them. And the State Government says that they were not consulted. There is an error on the part of the officials. Due to non-consultation and due to the mistake committed by the officials, the farmers are suffering. They are unable to take the benefit of Prime Minister's package. Sir, there are a lot of distress sales in the State. In spite of producing some grain, the farmers are unable to sell it in the market. The debt relief which was announced by the Government of India is in no way helpful to them.

(THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (RPOF. P.J. KURIEN) IN THE CHAIR)

This is another big problem in the State. The hon. President has simply mentioned about suicides in one sentence in his Address. This statement which has been prepared by the Cabinet has forgotten to address the real problem. The real problem is with regard to the credit facility, with regard to marketing, with regard to storage. This issue has not been addressed by the President's Address. (Contd. by 3D)

RG/3.20/3D

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (contd.): And there is the Report of Dr. Swaminathan. What happened to that Report? Having appointed Committees, there is nobody to go into the details of those Committees. Even, in my State, there are Committees. I request the Government to constitute another committee to go into the Reports of those Committees. I do not know what is happening in the Central Government; nobody is bothered to look into the grievances of the people. The hon. President has highlighted certain programmes like the Welfare Programmes, Mid-day Meal Programme, etc. The Mid-day Meal Programme was there earlier too. In my State, in a district called Adilabad, -- the hon. Minister often visits that district -- in one of the schools, -- this is just one example; there are hundreds of cases like this -- one boy called Shravan Kumar, while eating a boiled egg, died in the school for want of water. There was no water there. He was eating a boiled egg; he cried for help. He was rushed to a nearby house, but it was closed. The boy died in the school. Having provided mid-day meals, is it not the responsibility of the Government to see whether drinking water is provided or not? What sort of review is taking place? When there is no review of your Mid-day Meal Programme, such things will happen. I am not saying this for the sake of criticism. It is a fact. It has happened in Kotipalli Mandal, Mallampet village of the Adilabad district. Let the officials verify the fact. There are hundreds of schools where no safe drinking water has been provided, and the mid-day meal programme is on. What will happen to the students? Having highlighted the Mid-day Meal Programme in the Address of the hon. President, is it not the responsibility of both the Central and the State Government to ensure that adequate water supply is made to the schools. I am afraid if the Government of Andhra Pradesh would take my speech seriously. Instead of providing drinking water, they might withdraw the boiled egg from the meals. I never wanted that. The Government should ensure safe drinking water in the schools, instead of withdrawing the boiled egg scheme.

Then, Sir, another scheme highlighted by the hon. President is the National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme. I would like to remind the House that having launched the programme in the Anantapur district of Andhra Pradesh by the hon. Prime Minister, in the same village where the programme was launched, there is lot of corruption taking place. Social audit was conducted. Now, Sir, there are hundreds of news reports with me. I cannot read them because of paucity of time. But the programme miserably failed in that district. There are instances where one individual...(Interruptions)

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־ ָ֮ : ֯ ֤ ֵ , ߱ ״׮Ù ֲָ ֜ ...(־֮֬)... I read a lot of newspapers -- Vaartha, Eenaadu, Jyothi, Andhra Bhoomi, etc. Sir, in one village, one individual has drawn Rs.70,000. If they are interested, I can make copies and send it to them. But I would request them to prevail over the State Government and see to it that things are rectified. In one constituency, which a Minister is representing, about Rs.60 crores has been misused. One individual has drawn Rs.70,000 from the Post Office. Is it practically possible? But it is possible in Andhra Pradesh. I request and demand the Government to have an evaluation of the whole programme. The people, who had gone for the social audit, were not allowed in villages; they were locked in a room. And you want that we should not highlight these issues! What other mechanism do we have except reading the newspapers or getting information from other electronic media! After all we cannot go to each and every village. That is the official report I am quoting from official records. It is the duty of the Government to rectify the mistakes and see to it that the money, for whom it is intended, reaches the common man, reaches the labourers and not the middlemen. As I have earlier stated, these job cards have become ATM cards for the ruling party people in the villages. I am prepared to prove this. These job cards have literally become ATM cards that they are able to withdraw money as and when they require. (Continued by 3E)

3e/3.25/ks-psv

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (CONTD.): And you claim that this programme is successful! Sir, I would like to cite the reply to Starred Question No. 310 on 13.12.2006 given by the hon. Minister in this House. Sir, in Andhra Pradesh, about 43 lakh job-cards were issued. But the work has been provided only to fifty per cent people. And you claim that this has been successful. Earlier, we had a Power- Point presentation wherein they claimed that in three districts -- Anantapur, Ranga Reddy and Adilabad -- the programme has been a grand success; and it was also shown to the hon. Prime Minister. I had said that that should be replicated in all the districts. In the districts which I have cited, my party has won in the recent elections. This is the state of affairs in my own State as far as this Rural Employment Guarantee Programme is concerned. People are literally looting public money, Sir. The people who are close to the ruling party are literally looting public money. I am prepared to prove this. (Interruptions) Sir, the hon. President has highlighted certain programmes. I wanted to give the details. Please do some introspection and have an evaluation. Then only will you come to know the ground reality. Don't fly in the air; look down at the earth too; otherwise, you will be losing your power. Sir, I am aware that the Congress Party is losing fast in the country. They have lost all the big States recently -- Punjab, Uttaranchal; they are left with Andhra Pradesh. (Interruptions) Recently, Karnataka you have lost.

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THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): Ravulaji, you address the Chair. Don't be detracted by them. Please address the Chair. (Interruptions) Please, please, please.

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: When you talk about Andhra Pradesh, I can talk about Orissa also.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, earlier, we used to call certain parties as National Parties. Now, they have become notional parties in certain States. Still, you want to fight that losing battle! I am talking about the ground reality. If you have the guts to go to those villages, I am prepared to give you the names of the villages.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: All right. Now, please come to the point. Do not fall into their trap.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, take the case of SEZs. They are Special Exploitation Zones. They are not Special Economic Zones. (Interruptions)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Address the Chair. (Interruptions) No, no, Hariprasad. Your chance is also coming. (Interruptions) No, please.

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THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Your time is getting over. That is their trap. Do not fall into their trap.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, you have to deduct this time of interruption and add it to... (Interruptions)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Address the Chair. Don't look at them. Address the Chair

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, these so-called Special Exploitation Zones are helpful neither to the farmers nor to the people living in the vicinity of that area. All the small employees are also being brought from outside. Everything is mechanised. No local person is getting any job in these so-called Special Economic Zones. What is happening? Adequate compensation is not being given. The Supreme Court gave a direction that when a farmer is displaced, he should be adequately compensated. What is meant by adequate compensation? They are paying pittance, Rs.35,000 or Rs.50,000 per acre. Your Act says that the Government will not acquire agricultural land, as far as possible. Now, people at the lower levels are exploiting that particular sentence of the Act. The State Governments have actually become -- I dare say -- real estate brokers to certain industrial people. The State Governments are acting as land brokers to the industry people -- taking the land of poor farmers, displacing them, not adequately compensating them and forcing them to beg in the streets. When this is the state of affairs, you want to call them the Special Economic Zones! Sir, this is going to dismantle the entire agricultural system in our country.

(Contd. by 3f/tdb)

TDB/3F/3.30

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (CONTD.): We have already heard the hon. Agriculture Minister for whom I have got the tremendous respect. But, unfortunately, our country has now imported 55 lakh metric tons of wheat. Where are we going? Once we were having surplus foodgrains, but now we have shortage of foodgrains. They say that they want to create buffer-stocks in Southern India's Tuticorin Port. But, now you have imported 55 lakh metric tons of wheat. Sir, by quoting all these things, I am coming to a conclusion that there is a mismanagement at the national level. Nobody is responsible for his activities. Nobody is taking care. There is no introspection; there is no review; there is no evaluation of the programmes which are already launched.

Sir, as far as inter-State relations are concerned, and misuse of Constitution is concerned, take the case of UP. Sir, the Ruling Party was asked to do the floor test 22 times. Time and again, the hon. Governor of the State will be willing to send a report to the Central Government to dismiss the State Government. What is this? Is it democracy? Wherever there is a non-Congress Government, from day one, there will be a sword hanging on that Government. Never in the history that a Congress Government was dislodged by using article 356. This article is there in the Constitution only for the non-Congress Governments. Sir, this is gross misuse of constitutional powers. So, it should be taken care of. The hon. President, being the constitutional head, is unable to address this particular aspect.

Sir, now I would like to say something about the partisan attitude of the Central Government. Sir, as I said, when we were crying for recognition of Telugu as a classical language, all the Members of Parliament from Andhra Pradesh belonging to both the Houses of Parliament met the hon. Minister and the hon. Prime Minister in this respect. The State Assembly of Andhra Pradesh has passed a resolution in this regard. But, nothing happened. I have no grievance when Tamil is given the status of a classical language. But, what happened to Telugu? Why is this partisan attitude being taken? Telugu is a more than 1000 years old language. It is called the Italian of the East. I think, it will impress you. It is called the Italian of the East. ...(Interruptions)... I am willing to add Kannada. What happened to our representation? What happened to the unanimous resolution of the Andhra Assembly?


THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY (SHRI JAIRAM RAMESH): Malayalam also.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Any language which is having the required eligibility condition or the requisite qualification or the required condition, that should be added. But, what happened to the Resolution of the Andhra Legislative Assembly? Sir, there is a clear partisan attitude. Sir, I would like to remind that by virtue of 29 Lok Sabha Members from Andhra Pradesh for the Congress Party they are surviving in the Government at the Centre. But, you have conveniently ignored the claims of the State of Andhra Pradesh. Sir, opening an IIT at Basra is another big problem. The Andhra Pradesh Assembly has passed three resolutions for creation of an IIT at Basra. But, now there is a problem as there is a dispute between Rangareddy and Adilabad districts and Medak and Adilabad districts. Sir, this problem has been created by the Central Government. What is this partisan attitude? Why are you creating problems amongst districts?

SHRI JAIRAM RAMESH: An IIT is being set up in Andhra Pradesh.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Thrice we have passed resolutions for creation of an IIT in Andhra Pradesh. I was in the Andhra Assembly at that time. Sir, three unanimous resolutions have been passed, but the Government of India is not bothered.

Sir, the hon. President has also referred about the Railways. Sir, there is a phrase about Railways. It means 'right way or wrong way, there is another way, railway'. Unfortunately, Laluji's train is not stopping in Andhra Pradesh. It is in no way helping the Andhra people. Sir, in the last Budget Session, all the Members of Parliament from Andhra Pradesh went to the hon. Railway Minister and the hon. Prime Minister to give a representation about the grievances of Andhra, as far as the Railway programmes are concerned. We did not get anything out of that. Sir, we definitely oppose this partisan attitude of the Central Government.

Finally, Sir, I know you are looking at me, and I am aware of the time constraint. Sir, finally, I would like to say that as far as women are concerned, tomorrow, on the 8th March is the World Women's Day. The Women Reservation Bill is pending with the Government. All the political parties were called in the chamber of the hon. Home Minister for consultation on the Women Reservation Bill. (Contd. by 3g-kls)

KLS/3G-3.35

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (CONTD): So many consultations are taking place and nothing is coming out of them. Why are you misleading the nation? If you are really having any intention, come out with it. Or if you are not willing to do it, tell it openly to the nation through this Parliament. Sir, instead of keeping them in dark, instead of denying them their legitimate claim of having reservation in the legislative bodies, give them this right. With this demand, as I said earlier, while thanking the hon. President for coming to the Parliament House, I am opposing the Address made to this House. Thank you.

(Ends)

SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (MAHARASHTRA): Hon. Mr. Vice-Chairman, Sir, I thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to speak in this august House today on the Motion of Thanks to the Presidential Speech. The President in his speech mentioned that investment in the well being of the children is an investment in the future of our country. I would like to specifically speak about the problems of our children and their future in our country. The President stated in his speech that child protection is high on the Government's agenda. Sir, I would like to take this opportunity and highlight this issue of the Nithari episode, which has highlighted the lack of security of all our children. This episode has exposed India's callousness in protecting our children. The brutal killing, murdering, kidnapping, and raping in the Nithari episode is of serious concern to us. Sir, I think time has come when we all together have to stand up against these atrocities against our children and condemn this act. Children go missing daily in India and the authorities are not taking this seriously. So, I appeal to the Government that we take some stringent action against this and ensure that such things do not occur. The Central Panel and the various NGOs have suggested a few things about the widening the scope of investigation because they feel the possibilities of organ trade and sexual exploitation as well. Sir, there are certain measures that can be recommended to avoid such things to happen again. I am happy to say that the Home Ministry has asked the CBI to conduct an inquiry, which is still in progress. But we are all awaiting to see the report eagerly. The Government also is considering a legislation regarding child abuse, which includes sexual exploitation, economic exploitation, domestic violence, trafficking for prostitution and corporal punishment in schools. Sir, a time has come when you have to consider the protection of our children. Invariably it is pleaded, with my little knowledge about this House, that all these issues or protection or law and order are State Subjects. Sir, when it come to the security of our children I think we need to have a Central legislation in place where there has to be a good coordination between the Centre and the State Governments to make sure that our children have a secure place to go to if they are missing or lost. It could be anything, Sir. And there has to be a legislation to be made which is very strong, and it should be implemented exclusively for our children. We have recommended through the help of our NGOs, that there should be special police posts where there can be a special guidance for all these issues. And all there has to be a good interaction among all the districts in the States, which is probably monitored with the help of the Home Ministry at the Centre, and it should not be considered by the States as any kind of interference. Further, Sir, there should be special courts to be set up to dispose of all these cases where all these people should be punished and this should above caste, creed and religion. Sir, this law should be applicable to every citizen of our country and there should be no social or political interference in this legislation. Sir, according to the National Human Rights Commission, about 45,000 children are missing in our country every year, out of which, according to the numbers that are available, 11,000 are never even found. Sir, it is a serious and alarming situation. I appeal to the Government that the protection of our children and the missing children should be taken on a war-footing. The other issue, which is connected to this, is abolition of child labour. This august House has made a lot of legislation for child labour but as we are all aware the ground reality is far different. Children today in large numbers are still working at various levels be it home or carpet making. And this number I do not want to state, it happens all over India.

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SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (CONTD.): There is no particular state suffering from this. I think, without a rehabilitation programme I don't see these children getting out of this vicious circle. A lot of State Governments are taking initiatives to bring these children out. But unless we give them good protection as well as good quality education and security these children will go back into the whole circle again and the root cause of this entire problem is poverty which is really what we need to address and try and rehabilitate all our children at all levels. I am proud to say that the Maharashtra Government and the Home Ministry have taken major steps to improve the situation of the children in our State. The Home Minister has taken personal interest and has informed all the Commissioners in all districts to prepare dossiers to have a regular follow up and he himself has taken interest in it and has regular meetings and is updated. So, I appeal to all the other States and like the hon. Home minister mentioned in the morning, if at all the Mahrarashtra model works, I think, we will all be happy to use it and implement in other States and have a good interactive situation in the interest of protection of our children. The other issue which is alarming our country is of malnutrition. The National Family Health Survey has given us numbers which are absolutely alarming. As many as 45.9 per cent children are underweight today, 38.4 per cent are stunted and 19.1 per cent are wasted. The numbers of anaemia are even more alarming. The infant mortality rate instead of going down is going up. Sir, in this regard, the Supreme Court intervention has really helped. The Supreme Court on July 19, 2006 appointed a two-Member Committee to look into the serious lapses in the ICDS. Even the Planning Commission has taken serious cognisance of this issue and has passed some serious comments about this thing. The Planning Commission has mentioned that there is a clear gap between the intention and the actual implementation of this programme, which does not reflect upon us as policy makers, and the implementers of the same. I am happy to say that the Prime Minister's personal intervention has really helped in the ICDS programme approval of all. I think, he has written to all the Chief Ministers in all the States and because of that things have really started moving. I appreciate his effort and I am optimistic that because of his personal intervention we would be definitely getting some good results. The Draft Approach Paper of the Eleventh Survey has suggested that the development of our children would be prioritised and there would be effective implementation of the ICDS programme. Sir, I really feel sorry to say this but so far there are only 7.4 lakh anganwadis in our country which are well short of the estimated 17 lakhs required for universal coverage. I appeal, on behalf of all of us who work for the children of this country, to the Finance Minister that I wish he would do something more. We appreciate what he has done for us in this Budget but definitely we need much more to be done for our children. Sir, the alarming issue for us women, is maternal mortality. One woman every seven minutes dies in our country due to pregnancy related complications. According to various reports of UNICEF, 30 per cent cases like this even go unreported. Sir, I am ashamed to say this but the statistics are alarming. Even our other neighbours such as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are far ahead of us in this case. I appreciate the Government's effort. In the Rural Health Mission, there is a lot of money being given for all these programmes but somehow they are not reaching women in every village. There aren't any good hospitals and we are all aware of what the ground reality is. The medical facilities are not improving. In many places there are no doctors available at any time. So all these programmes are available and look glamorous on newspapers and all our reports. But the ground reality, as we are all aware, is far different. Even today, 65 per cent births take place at home without any assistance or trained staff. Today, India at present has an MMR at 301. That means out of one lakh births, 300 women die during pregnancy. If you have to achieve the millennium goal, the Millennium Development Goal or the MMR, we need to reach the number of 106. But, Sir, at the rate we are going, by 2015, we will just about reach the number of 240. I urge upon the Government that through the Rural Health Mission they need to focus more and reach every corner of our country and make our dream come true.

(Contd. by NBR/3J)

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SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (CONTD.): I am very happy that the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment is taking all the initiatives to support women and children belonging to the SC/ST. There are a lot of policies made, but are not implemented. But, I am sure, with regular meetings, according to what the hon. Minister has mentioned in the past, these targets will be met which are lagging behind.

The other heartening effort which the Government is making is strengthening the office of the Chief Commissioner of differently-abled. Even this year, the hon. Railway Minister and the hon. Finance Minister have made special provisions for differently-abled people and I express my gratitude and say a big thank you to them. At the same time, I urge the Government that it is important to simplify the process of assessment of disabilities and issue disability certificate to all these people and make the process much easier, because it is extremely difficult to get as there is a lot of corruption to get a disability certificate in our country. Therefore, I appeal to the Government that we have to make sure that all these great schemes, which we are making, are implemented for the welfare of our people.

Sir, being a woman, a girl-child and an only child this point is really close to my heart and I appreciate the Government's efforts for Adopt the Girl Programme to check the alarming rise in the female foeticide in our country. The Ministry of Women and Child Development has started a welcome measure about the Cradle Scheme where anybody who has a daughter and does not want her can leave her and the Government will look after her. I appreciate this effort. But, there are other issues connected to the girl-child. The parents are still selling their daughters. The other issue which is really harming our country is child marriage. This august House enacted umpteen legislations on child marriage. But even today, in various parts of the country, even the educated cities, I am really sorry to say, the child marriage still exists and is in huge numbers. I think we all need to address this issue and, probably, make more serious legislation to stop these atrocities against young women, because even they deserve a good quality life, good quality education and they would also want to have good future and work. The root cause of all these problems, as I mentioned earlier, is poverty. I think, we all need to help and remove poverty from our country and try to uplift the people living below the poverty line. These issues continue to haunt us unless we address the issue of poverty. And, as Legislators, I think, we have failed the people of our country.

Sir, the hon. President has stated in his Address earlier that highest emphasis will be given to education. I appreciate and thank the UPA Government for increase in allocation that it has given for education. We are all aware that India is an ancient country. But, today, 40 per cent of our population of more than 1 billion is under the age of 20 years. This is a huge pool of youthful manpower which can lead India to its destiny. The fabulous programmes which are implemented like the Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan and Kasturba Gandhi Balika Vidyalayas have helped every child in our country to get good education, especially girls from the SC/ST and minorities. I don't want to sound like a cynic. There are a lot of aberrations in the implementation of these programmes. I myself have a little experience, because I work in the rural areas and run a few schools. There are a lot of challenges that are put ahead in education. At the same time, as a new entrant to this august House, I would like to share my perceptions of the diverse challenges confronting the youth of today. Competition is enormous due to population. The demand for quality education has become a big issue, because everybody realized that unless you get good education, you cannot get employment. The number of dropouts in schools is alarming; illiteracy rate is still 65 per cent which implies that 35-crore Indians still illiterate. Reading skills, according to a survey conducted are still very low. If you visit many schools in the rural areas, children cannot even read, right or comprehend many subjects. The problem is paucity of resources leading to admissibly poor infrastructure. Unionism is rampant and accountability is extremely low. The external environment of terrorism, casteism, corruption, patronage and red tape add to youth frustration in our country.

The higher education sector also suffers with similar issues. Only 8 per cent of our population between the age group of 18 and 23 has access to higher education. (CONTD. BY VP "3K")

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SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (CONTD.): Sir, 60 per cent of our colleges are located in urban areas, while only 40 per cent are in rural areas. Besides this, there is even a divide among the States. The children in Southern States have much more access to Secondary Education, while the Northern States and the North Eastern States suffer. There is a need to open many more colleges and institutes in the un-served areas. Due to inadequate financial resources, States are unable to set up new colleges. I appeal to the Central Government to find out some route by which we can have more access to education; not just Elementary Education, but even concentrate on Higher Secondary and Higher Technical Education. Maybe, we can even encourage private sector people to come in to help us achieve this goal.

By and large, the Higher Education in our country is very rigid. The content and the syllabus are outdated. I think time has come that we need to get some urgent reforms which will enable the domestic sector to compete effectively in a competitive environment. There is the cafetaria type credit system which is used worldwide. I think, we need to use that in our country, which will help every student. This is a facility to transfer credit from one university to the other university. This will help him get relevant courses, which will guarantee him a job. The UGC, AICTE, Medical Council and State Universities will have to play an extremely pro-active role in all these reforms.

While at the Elementary Education level, we see a great improvement in the Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and minorities, there is a serious concern for providing Higher Education for all these classes, especially, among the girls. The Maharashtra Government has started a special programme to help girls from financially difficult backgrounds. They have given them scholarships. On behalf of every girl child, I appeal to the Central Government to make available some benefits so that all of us get good quality education.

The financial health of the Education Sector is a matter of serious concern for all of us. Way back in 1964, as we are all aware, the Kothari Commission recommended increase in provision for education to at least 6.4 per cent of the GDP. Sir, we all know what the figures today are. And because of paucity of adequate financial resources we are facing a lot of problems of not having good infrastructure available to our students. There is a great shortage of buildings, classrooms, libraries, laboratories and we cannot even maintain the schools we have. This has even compelled many States to impose a ban on teachers' recruitment and we have seen that unless you guarantee them good quality job, the institutes are not giving good results. If we need to increase access to Higher Education from 8 per cent to 20 per cent, we will have to increase our spending by 150 per cent, which is, probably, not possible. But, I think, the time has come that we should allow private sector, both foreign and domestic to supplement our efforts. This will improve efficiency and promote excellence. But the fee structure should be safeguarded to prevent commercialisation of education. As competition is being keener, Indian students have started going abroad to study. But, this is possible only for children who can afford it or even who have got good scholarships. I think the time has come that we try and give this education to all our children in our country at home.

Globalisation of the world's economy has fuelled competition. It is compelling that the best institutions worldwide to continuously review their curriculum, make it inter-disciplinary and conduct research in collaboration with industry to stay afloat. Our institutions still have a long way from achieving this. The General Agreement on Trade in Services is a challenge for which a great deal of preparation and clarity is required. A clearly articulated policy followed by a legislation, inter-alia instituting a regulatory regime that would ensure transparency and quality is necessary. Fortunately or unfortunately, Sir, the failure in the last round of talks has given us another chance to prepare for the next round. Some courageous decisions are necessary, both in the interest of quality and equity that Government should not shy away from.

Sir, we are 60 years into independence and time has come for us to ask ourselves what we have achieved. If I could quote, Sir, Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru. "Aim of having a strong free and democratic India where every citizen has an equal place and full opportunity of growth and service, where present day inequalities in wealth and status have ceased to be, where our vital impulses are directed to creative and cooperative endeavour." Sir, have we been able to provide even the basic necessities to our people? (Continued by PK/3L)

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SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (CONTD.): Have we been able to provide even the basic necessities to our people, be it potable drinking water, electricity, sanitation, good quality education, eradication of poverty, and so many things? I myself feel that time has come when we need to review all these issues and at least provide our people with the bare minimum. Sir, Friedrich Max Muller once said; " If I were to look over the whole world to find out the country most richly endowed with all the wealth, power and beauty that nature can bestow - in some sense the very paradise on earth - I should point to India. If I were to ask under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions to some of them, which well deserve the attention even of those who have studied Plato and Kant -- I should point to India.

Sir, the greatest philosophers and our forefathers dreamt big for us and saw that India should be the best, if not one of the best. Everybody says "India is shining and India is everywhere." Now, time has come for all of us to make this dream into reality, not just economically but also socially. The future of our country is in our hands; let us not fail the citizens of this great land. I support the Motion of Thanks on the President's Address. Thank you.

(Ends)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Thank you, Ms. Supriya for the maiden speech.

SHRIMATI SHOBHANA BHARTIA (NOMINATED): Sir, I would like to thank the President for his Address, outlining the priorities and the achievements of his Government. The President in his Address stated that his Government is building a new architecture of inclusive growth. Sir, this has only been possible because of the tremendous growth that India witnessed over the last few years. On the 60th year of our nation's independence, we have much to be proud about. We have made many strides, but, Sir, it is one thing to achieve the economic performance that we have and it is another thing to hold on to it and to use it as a launching pad for greater progress. As President Kalam himself said, by progress his Government cannot be exclusively taken up by the rising and shining India, but its programmes such as Bharat Nirman, National Rural Health Mission, Sarva Shiksha Abhiyaan, Mid-day Meal, National Rural Employment Guarantee Act and other such schemes form the building blocks of this inclusive architecture. Sir, the whole debate about the SEZs versus industrialisation is being seen in the light of development versus rights. To my mind, it is not development versus rights, but development for greater rights that this sort of a scheme should actually ensure. Sir, we often talk about the demographic dividend which is going to take us to places. If we are to ensure that this demographic dividend does not turn into a demographic nightmare, then we have to ensure that the twin objectives of medical health care and education are easily accessible to our entire population. I would just like to dwell on these two issues which to my mind are extremely critical for the Government. I will first deal with health. With the public spending on health being almost lower than 1.3 per cent, it is abysmally low, vast slots of our population remain outside the basic medical health care. The Government through the National Rural Health Mission has been seeking to address this in partnership with the States, communities, Panchayats, by creating institutes that bring health care to millions of its people. But the main issue, according to me, really, is of creating awareness of these programmes, of improving educational facilities, and more importantly, ensuring women's welfare. The National Rural Health Mission takes a holistic approach to the way in which it defines health care. It seeks to identify the key ingredients or determinants of good health, be it nutrition, be it safe drinking water or promoting hygiene. Also, Sir, the plan of action of the National Rural Health Mission talks about increased public spending in the field of health. It talks about reducing regional imbalances, of trying to ensure greater infrastructure, of pooling resources, and of decentralising the district management of health schemes and improving community participation. (Contd. by 3M/PB)

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