PREVIOUS HOUR

kgg/1d/2.30

The House re-assembled at

thirty minutes past two of the clock,

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair.

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MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now, Bills for introduction. Smt. Hema Malini, not present; Shri Kalraj Mishra, not here; Ms. Pramila Bohidar, not here. Mr. Natchiappan to continue on the Agricultural Produce (Remunerative Prices) Bill, 2006.

 


PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

 

THE AGRICULTURAL PRODUCE (REMUNERATIVE PRICES)

BILL, 2006 (Contd.)

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DR. E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (TAMIL NADU): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, for allowing me to continue. Mr. Narayanasamy has really brought a very important matter at an appropriate time. Sir, the agriculturists are very hard working and, for the past so many years, they are suffering due to lack of remunerative price fixation. Even if the Government of India and the State Governments are fixing the prices then and there, the market is not responding to that. The local brokers, who are purchasing the produce, are fixing their own prices. Subsequently, they are raising the price without any reason. For the past three months, there have been talks in the media, and there have been agitations saying that the price rise is too much, especially for the agricultural commodities. Really, had the present rate, which is in the market now, gone down to agriculturists, it would have been appreciable. But it is not happening. The agriculturists are selling away their produce for a very meagre price, which is not even justiceable to agriculturists if you take into account the hard work they do, the fertilisers price and the insecticide price that they have paid. The price they receive is not remunerative. But the intermediaries are raising the prices and they are accumulating the entire wealth in the name of agriculturists. Therefore, the proposition made by this Private Member's Bill, the Agricultural Produce (Remunerative) Bill, 2006, is very much relevant and, at the same time, Sir, the Government of India has now said, through the Budget, that the agriculturists would have new benefits, such as bank finances, even to the extent of Rs.2,60,000 crores. This much of fund is going to be allocated to the agriculturists. Sir, whether it is going to be implemented properly by the State Governments is a question we have to answer. The State Governments also should form part of the team along with the Government of India in this. The Government of India may propose something and they may give certain guidelines. But, many of the State Governments are not in a position to implement it because of bad machinery which implements it. The execution part is very important. Unless the State Governments gear up their execution machinery and the machinery actually goes and implements the things down the line, to the grassroots level, the execution would not be effective. When they are made vibrant and dynamic, then, whatever the Government of India proposes, that will happen at the grassroots level. Otherwise, the funds will be drained away by the intermediaries who are present at different levels -- at the State Governments-level as also at the Zilla Parishat-level.

Sir, actually, the Panchayati-raj proposition which was made by late Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi, is really a talisman for the ordinary person, especially for the agriculturists. (Contd. by kls/1e)

KLS/1E-2.35

DR. E. M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (CONTD): If really the Zila Parishads and lower level, that is taluka level, elected bodies and Panchayats are endowed with powers to implement these programmes, then the money will go directly to the common man, that is, the agriculturists. But it is not happening. It is taken away at different levels by the bureaucratic set-up and where the bureaucracy cannot go and do certain things, they are allowing it to be left in the hands of intermediaries. This should system should be foolproof. It should be dynamic and it should be a system, which can execute certain things. The agriculturists are not properly represented in any of the forums like that. For example, in Tamil Nadu, we are having a system in which every month the agriculturists' grievances would be redressed by the District Collectors and at the same time they are having a definite statutory support to see that their produce is properly accepted by the market. But There is nothing like that. There was cooperative system or federations system at the district level to purchase the commodities and sell them for good price. But it is not workable. Even the fruits, which are developed in certain areas of Tamil Nadu and other States, are not having the competitive price. The American apples are now coming down here, Washington apples are coming down to India and they are competing with the local apples. Even though we are having the processing system, the people are not aware of the system and they are not utilising it properly to compete with the foreign commodities, which are coming now under the WTO covenants and agreements. Sir, the agriculturists are not properly looked after by the local level machinery. Even now they are begging before the district level administration for their every day affair, even for getting fertiliser or even for getting their own water facilities through their own water tanks or the river or canals. For everything they have to depend on the local administration. They are not independent in any way to decide their own fate. In such a situation here, Sir, we find that corporates are now having an eye on the agricultural produce. Now we read that the Ambanis, Reliance companies, and other companies are coming forward to sell the greens and also vegetables in the market. They are starting the retail outlets and they are having the contract with the local agriculturists. They supply the seeds, they supply the fertilisers, they supply the pesticides, and they fix the price. Now the agriculturists are going to be handled by the corporates. When the Government could not succeed, when the cooperative sector could not succeed, when the bureaucrats could not succeed, here come the corporates, which are going to take away the agriculturists as their own pawns. Now whether they are going to be properly treated or whether they are going to be exploited is the question that we are facing. There may be many laws to say that land ceiling should be there and people should not be exploited by way of contract labour. But in different ways, it is going to come into India and especially our own capitalists are going to take over the market. In such a situation, Sir, this type of thinking of having a body at the national level and also at the State level is very appreciable. But, Sir, it is not sufficient to say that there should be a statute but at the same time, there should be coordination among the banks, Rural Development Departments, and the agriculturists. There should be a tripartite system by which they can give finance at any time and they should be appreciated if there is any loss in it. The appreciation of loss has to be done only by a proper insurance system. None of the private insurance companies is coming forward to have insurance for the agricultural produce. (Contd by 1F)

SSS/2.40/1F

DR. E. M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (CONTD.): They are not ready to take this stake. They are ready to get only the life insurance, and it is very, very easy to get income through that. Already the Government of India has funded a lot of money for public health and the people's life span has also increased. At the time of independence it was only 25 or 35 years. Now, the average age comes to around 65 or 85 years. Therefore, the life insurance is a very profitable one for the insurance companies and the transport facilities have also very much improved. Therefore, the motor vehicle insurance is also very profitable. Health insurance in certain categories, in allied group is also profitable for them. But the private insurances companies are not at all having any say on the agricultural produce or agricultural insurances. Therefore, Sir, Government should compel them. At least a certain percentage of their business should be on the rural folk. They should insure for the rural folk and they should also insure for the agricultural produce. The agricultural produce depends on natural vagaries. Sir, we know that health is diminishing and in India, seasons are extreme. In one place there will be floods and in another place there will be drought. In one place there will be heavy rains and at the same time, in another place people will go out of their place seeking drinking water. Such is a vast nation where the people of different castes and customs are living. These people are to be united, in which way they are to be united should only be by proper agricultural policy. Therefore, I request the Government of India to think about it, as it is high time. Simply allotting money is not sufficient but whether it goes properly to the persons and to whom it is allotted has to be monitored. Sir, people are ready to work hard, the youngsters who are just becoming matriculates could not go out for any other job. They are seeking only agricultural jobs. The ITI people are going for service industries in agricultural areas. But these people are to be motivated by way of help from different sources. Even though we are having a banking policy, even though many of the banks are helping them, it is not sufficient and it is not up to their expectations. The banking people are not concentrating upon agriculture. Sir, if you take into consideration the agriculturists, the ratio of NPA is very, very minimum but the industrialists and corporate are in the high level of NPA bracket. Therefore, the agriculturists should be properly respected. When they are producing, that produce should have a proper price. The Government of India has many systems to monitor it. But at the same time, cooperation from the different State Governments should be brought in. The different agricultural ministers in the different States and cooperative Ministers in the different States should have the same theme and they should synchronise with the thinking of the national level which is now stipulated in the Budget also. With these observations, I request the Government of India to come forward with a revised agricultural policy where the ordinary agriculturists are taken into consideration. They should be taken as the stakeholders, their produce should be properly assessed and the price should be fixed at the appropriate time. The price fixation is now made only when the seeds are needed. When they are producing and when the produce is going to the market, at that time, the price is not fixed. When they need another plantation, at that time only the price is fixed. That means at higher price they have to purchase their own seeds and the agricultural labourers are now migrating from one place to another. Therefore, mechanisation has come. Mechanisation has increased the cost of the produce. Even for one acre of land, earlier it was only about Rs. 5000. That was the expenditure. Now, they are three fold. They have to spend Rs. 15,000. But what is the produce they are going to get? They will get only Rs. 10,000. That means Rs. 5000 debt even if he works hard throughout the year. Therefore, this particular Bill is very much needed and the Government has to think about it and they have to come forward with a new policy. (Ends) (Followed by NBR/1G)

1G/klg/2.25

. . ׻ֵ (ָӛ) : ֳ֯ן , ֤ (ֳָ 滵) ׾֬, 2006 ִ֣Ԯ ׻֋ ֛ ָ 80 ןֿ֟ ֮ܵ Ӿ ֟ ָ ׮ֳԸ ֕ ֕ , ֲ ָ ִ֮ ֲֻ ָ֕ ֲֻ , ֲ , ָ ݵ־ֿ ֻ֟ פ--פ ֤ ָ֤ , , ֲ , , ֻ֟ פ--פ ֤ ָ֤ , ו ָ ָ , וִ֮ ָ , ָ֕ ִ օ

, -׻֮ -ӟָ , Ӿ , ׸֕ , ֕ ֮ ָ , ײֵ , ׯϕ־ ֮ ׻֋ ך ִ ֕ ן ָ֕ ֵ ֋, ׻֋ ו Ùָ ֺ , ֚ ֕ ָ ؙ ֕ ֮֋ ֋ ָ ؙ ִ ״׮ִִ ֯ և ӯֻߴ , ָ ָ֕ ֕ ״׮ִִ ֯ և, ־֮Դ ֈ , ֣ ָ ؙ , ׸ , ִ , ָ֯ , ֯ ״׮ִִ ֯ և ֤ ֮ ֻ Ӆ ֻ , ֻ ֟ ֻ ָ , Óָ ָ ֮ ָ ָև ָ ֲָ ֟ , ָָ ִ ֟ , ָ ָ ïꌙ ֕ ֻ֟ ֯ꌙ ֕ ֻ և ָ օ ָ ָ߲ ֮ , ӟ֟: ֮ ֻ ָָ , ֟ ֲ֕ ֟

, ֻ ָ ׻֋ ֮ ֱ ߕ ֺ ֛, ߕ ֣ ֤ ֺ ֛ , ֮ ֺ ֛ , ײֻ֕ ֺ ֛ , ֤֕ ֺ ֛ ֣ ֮ ׸ָ , ׸ָ ֻ֮ ֺ ֛ כ , ָ ־֮֬ ߕ ׻֋, ֤ ׻֋, ֮ ׻֋, ײֻ֕ ׻֋, ߕֻ ׻֋ כ ֲֻ ֋, ׻֋ ָ ֲ֕ ӟ֟: ײִ֮֕ , , ֜ ָ֮֯ ֮ ֻ ֮ , ֮֕ Ӭ ָ ֻ Ӭ ֟, ֮ , Ӭ ֟ ָ ֺ ֵ ׸ Ӭ ֟ ֲ ֻ ָ ֟ , ֲ ָ , ֜ ֮ ֟ ֌ ֯ ״׮ִִ ֯ և ִ ֟ , ׻ ֮ ֮ ֻ - ִ ָ֯ ֛ , ו Ӭ ֟ ֲ ִ ָ ֋, ֲ ׻֋ ֲֻ ֋, ִõ ׿ ״׮ִִ ֯ և ׻֋ ֮ ? ߱ ֟ , ֌׸י ֺ , ߮ 1/ ָ

AKA-USY/1H/2:50

00 ׻ֵ (֟) : ֯ և և ָ ֯ ߮ ָ ׻֋ ֟ ߕ ֺ , ֯ ֻ ֟ ֯ ֯ ֮ ߮ , ֮ ß , ִ ָ ֲֻ , פ ֟ ֮ ֟ , ֮ ֲ ׻֋ ֟ - ֛ Ӥ ָ ֮ ָ ֮ օ , ™ߵ ߔ ָ ֮ ״ֻ, ֮ ֕ ™ߵ 30 ֻ ֤ ִֵ , ™ߵ ֮ ָ ֤֮ ָ , ֻ֟߮ ׾֢ ӡ , ֮ ָ ׿ֿ ־ã ָ߲ , ו֮ ϴ-֡ , ״ֻ , ִ֤ פ ֵ, Ù әÙ ֻ , ו֮ , , ו֮ ֮ Ӭ Ӥ , ָ ߔ ֛ ֋ ו ָ ӛÙ ֻ ״ֻ֟ ә ӛ ָֿ߮ ָߤ ׻֋, ִ߮ ָߤ ׻֋, ׯ֙ ׻֋ ֤ ײֻ כֈؙ ׻֋, ֮ ״ֻ֮ ֮ ״ֻ֟ ? ֮ ִ߮ Ù ߕ ָߤ ׻֋ ״ֻ֟ ? ֮ ֮, ײֻ֕ ֤ ׻֋ ״ֻ֟ ָֿ߮, ׯ֙ , ׻֋ ״ֻ֟ ? ״ֻ֟ ָ ֆָև  և ָ ֮ ִ ֻ֟ ӟ֟: ֲ ֻ ָ ֟ ֻ ָ וָ ֟

, ֣ ֣ ֲ ֛ ִõ ֕ ָ ִ֮ , ָ ӿ ֮ ߕ ֵ , ߕ ״ֻ , ӿ ָ ־֮֬ ָ ׸֛ , ָ ן ָ ߻ ׸֛ ָ ֻ֮ ־ ֻ ֋ , ׯ֔ , ָ ӿ ׮ֵ ָ ֮ ֕֙ ӡ ã, 00և0 ִ ã ׸ ָ ӿ , ֟ ֟ , ִ Ӥ ֲ ô ӛÙ ֟ և ӛÙ ֟ ֿ߮ ӿ ֺ , ևף֮ ֣-֣ ӿ ֺ , Ù ߕ Ù ״ֻ֟ ӿ ֵ ߕ ֵ - ׮י כև ߛ ֻ ֻ֮ ׮ֵ ߕ ׮ֵ ׮י כև ߛ ָ ֯ ֋ ӿ , ߕ ֻ ֻ֮ ׮ֵ ָ ֋ ֻ ֻ֮ ׮ֵ ӿ ׮ֵ ֻ֟ ֯ ֮ ֵֿ ߮ , ֮ ֯ ֛ Ϭ֮ , ׮י כև ߛ ֲ ә ֵ ִֵ ָ, ֈ և, 85,000 Ӥ֮ Ù פ ә֮ פ ׮י כև ߛօ ָ ? ָ ־֟ ֮ և, ߮ ־֟ ֛ ֿ , ־֟ ֮ և , ו ߕ Ùև , ו ֲ ߛ ֮ ֋ ָ ֋, ߕ ֮ ֕ ֲ ֤ ֋ ֤ ֓օ (1j/sch' ָ ָ)

SCH/1J/2.55

..׻ֵ (֟): ָ ϓָ ߮ ֻ ߕ ׻֋ ֕ ӿ ׮ֵ, ָ ߻ ֮ , ָ ־ ֻ י כև ߛ , ֳ ָ ӿ , ֣ ߅

, ֮ ִõ֋ פ-ןפ ֜ ֤ , ֮ , ָ և ӛ և ״֌ ָ ֟, 80 ֤ Ӿ , ָ ֮ ָ ̤֕ , þֵ , ֳ ִ ֟ ֻ ִ ֟ ֤ ֮ ֛ ֕ ֮ ֛ , ߕ ִ ֮ ֕ ֮ , ֲ ָ֕ ֲ ֮ ֟ ֮ ִ ״ֻ֟ ֕ ֮ ״ֻ֟ , ߾, כ ֲָ ִ֬ ֺ ֟ ֟ ֕ 26 ֵ ֵ , 6 ֵ ֲ ״ֻօ ߔ ָ ?

ָ כߕ ֓ , כߕ ֓ ׿ֵֻ , ״׮ִֵ ֮ , 껛 ֮ , ָֻ ֮ , ָ ֮ ֮ ߕ ֮ ִ ָ֕ ֲֻ , ו әֻ֮ ֮ ָָ ֕ ִ ֻ פօ ׯ֔ ߮ 28 ָ ӡ ־ֻ ָ ֛ ؛ Ӥ ֟ , , ֲ Ӥ ֲ ֻ ֵ ? ֲ ֻ ָ ֮ , ״ֵ֕ ֟?

ָ ֻ ֻ ֕ ָ ֯ ߸ ֤ և, ֵ , ִֻ ֵ , ָ֚ ֵ ָ֬ ָ߲ ֤ և ֵ , ֻ- ֟ ֻ- ָ֬ ֮ , ָ֬ ֮ , ֕ ֻ 60 ֵ և , ָ֬ ֮ ֮ ? 80 ֵ ד 60 ֵ ֻ! ߕ , ָ ֮ ֵ֤ ? ֵ֤ ֯ ״׮ִִ ֯ և ִ ָ , ִ ֵ ֻ֛ ևԕ ִ ָ ֛-֛ ֈ ֋ , ו֮ ֮ ָ֕ ׻֋, ֮ ֮ ָ ֲ ߕ ״ֻ߅ ֮ ײ֓׻֋ , ֮ ֵ֤ ؾ֛ ֮ և , ׻֋ ֻ ֮ ֻ , ֻ ֮ ׻֋ ָ߿ӛ Ùָ ָ ׻ֵ , ֲִ ֮ ֮ ״ֻ օ ֮ ױ ׯ ֣-֣ ָ ֮ ̴߮ ևԕ ִ ָ ָ ֮ ָ ִ߮ ׿ִ ֻ ? ׿ִ ֻ ִ֮, ã֮ ָ þֵ ֵօ ִ֮ ̴߮ Ը ָ ׬ ָ ִ߮, ߲ 10,000 ִ߮ ֵָ ׻֋ ָָ י ֵ ָ ֮? ָ ֻ ևԕ ֮օ ֻ׿ֵ ֻ , ևԕ ֮, ױ ֮ ? ִ߮ ֮ ׸ ֳ ֻ ֓ ׸, ֛ ִ֬ , פ ֳ ֛ ֙ פ ֋ ֓ ָ ֟ ָ ֟ , ָ ָ ִ߮ פ ֋ ָ ֕։ ָ , ӕָ ֋ ָ ָ ֮ ָ ֋օ 1K/MCM ָ ָ

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