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. ϳ (֟) : ָ ָ ָ , ָ פ , ӟ֮ ִֵ օ ן׸ ֮ ׻֋ 滵 ׮֬Ը ֻ ֲ 滵 ׮֬׸ , ӡֵֻ ֱ׸ , ָ ևև פ ׮֤ ֵ ֋ , ֮ ֟ 滵 ׮֬׸ ׯ֔ פ ִ֟ 滵 650 ֋ ן ،֙ ֵ ֵ, ֲ ָ֕ ֮ ׬ 滵 ״ֻօ ֮ ֮ 750 ֋ ן ،֙ ߴ֟ ָ օ ֲ ׾֤ ӯ , ׻֋ ָ-ݵָ ֋ ן ،֙ 滵 ӯ , ױ ָ֬ ָ ֮ 滵 ֮ ֵ ֵ, ו ֲֻ ָ֕ ֤ 滵 ״ֻ ֵ? ײ֓׻ֵ ֳ׮֟ , ָ֯ ֳ׮֟ , black marketing ֜ , ִ ָ ׻ֵ ֟ ֤ ߴ֟ ֜ ֟ , ו ֳ ֮ ״ֻ ֟ ִ ֮֟ ״ֻ ֟ ֕ ִ ֮֟ ־ , ןֻ, ô ֕ ֤ ָߤ ֛ ׻֋ ֲ ֛ ־ֿ 滵 ׮֬׸ ִֵ ֟ ֺ ׮׿֟ ָ֕ , ָ֕ , ӛ ߕ ִֵ ִ ָ ײ , ֤֯ ֤֯ ֮ ֟ 滵 ׮֬׸ ן׸ ֻ ֮ ֮ Ù , Ӳ- ִ , ֮ ֻ ׻֋ ֻ ָ , ֻ 滵 ׮֬׸ ֋, ִ ָ , ׸ ֋, Ӭ-֮ ֋ ֻ ָ֤ ֋ ֛ ֛ ֋, ־ֲ֤ ? ׻֋ ִֵ֣ ֲ ֻ ֛ , ֳ ֟ ׮׿֟ ֋ ֳ 滵 ֵ ֋, ֮ ֻ ָ֤ ӳ־֮ ָ֕ ־ ֻ , ײ ֮ ֮ ֻ ִ ״ֻ֮

, ִ ו֮֟ ز֤ פ ֋ , ֳ ֛ ֵ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ָ ֮ ׾ָ֓ ֕ ߕ̻ ִ ר ָ ֮ ֻ֤ ߕ̻ ֻ֟ , ߕ̻ ֻ֟ , ߕ̻ ָ ֟ ֜ և

, ֕ã֮ Ϥ, ֋ פ ֻ ֛ , ֓և ֮֬ ־ ֻ ֤ ָ׮ֵ ֟ ãן ֮ ָ և ֋, , ֕ ׌ פև ֋, ֲ ָָ ֮ ӡֵֻ ׾ֿ ֮ ֛-֛ ָ֮ ֋ ״ֻ ֟ write off ֟ , ָ ֮ ָ ߻ִ ãן ֟ ֟ ֟ ֮ ֛ ׻֋ ֺ Ӿֿ߻ ׾ֵ ָ ֻ ֵԾ , ֚ ן׸ ־ֿ - ֮ ׿֟ ֮ ߅ ֮ ֻ ִ߮ ֮ ִ ֤ , ֻ־ֵ ֤ , ִ ֳָ , ֓և ֮֬ , ֓և ״֟ ֮֬ ָ ֳ ״ֻ , ֻ ֬׸ ֋ ֮ , Ӿֻ , Ӿֻ ָ ֬׸ ֮ , ֮ , ֮ ָ ֬׸ ֮ , ֙ , ֙ ָ ֬׸ ֮ ֕ ֬ߵ ֻ , ו֮ Ի ֻ , , ו ׬׬ ֳ ״ֻ, ָ ֮ ָ ׿֟ ֋, ֻ ׳ֵ֮ ֻ֮ ֮ ֳ ֮ ׻֋ ָָ - ןֵ ֮և , ָ֮

2R/AKG ָ ֿ:

AKG-YSR/2R/4.05

. ϳ (֟) : ֳ - , ָ֮ , ײ֓׻֋ ֳ , ֻև ֟ ׻֋ ֮ ֮ ֌ ׸ , ֌ - ָ֮ ֟ , ָ֮ ״ֻ ֟ ֮ ָ֮ ״ֻ, ׻֋ וֻ -- , ָ֮ ״ֻ , ֮ ״ֻ , ָ ׻֋ , ׸ ן ־ ָ ן - ן, , ו֮ ָ ׸ָ ֻ֟ , ׿ֵ ֻ֟ , ׿ , þã , ֤- , ֮ ֲ ֻ , ֲ ֮ ָ߲ , ֮ ֻ , ֲ ִ ֻ ٣ ׾ ֮ ֋, ֵ֮ ٣ ׾ ִ ֲ , ֲ ֮ ٣ ׾

֮ ׿֟ ׻֋ ֯ ׳ֵ֮ ֻ֮ ӓָ ִ֬ ָ וֻ ßָ ֯ ֻ֋, ֟֋, ָ ֬׸ ߤָ ׬--׬ ٣ ֳ ״ֻ , ֲ ׮׿֟ ׮׿֟ ׻֋ ו ־֮ ׾֬ ß ֵ , - þ֟ ֮ ִ֣Ԯ ֮־֤

(ִ֯)

ֳ֬ (. .. ׸֮) :  . ϳ ןֻֻ ָָ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ã֟օ . ִ ӛָ߅

. ִ ӛָ (ײָ) : ֮־֤ ֳ֬ ߅ ִֵָ ֳָ ֌ ײֻ ִ֬ ָ ױ ֮ ִõ ָ ֮ ׾ָ֓ ֮ ָ פ ײֻ ֮ ֮ ֕ ֳָ 滵 ״ֻ, ִ׮֟ ֮ ײֻ þֵֿ֢ ֚ ֟ þֺ , ָ ײֻ ֓ ֛ ׾ßָ ֮ ִõ ָ ֓ ߅

, ֮ ִõ ִ֮ ֓ ״ןֵ ֮ , ָ ״ןֵ ֮ , և Ùָ , ݕ͸ , ָ ֮ ִõ ָ ֓ ָ ִ֮ ִֵ ֵ, , פ ֋ ֋ ֯ ִ ׮֋, ֵ֤ ֮ ֋х ֮ ִõ ָ ֓ , ו֮ ֲֻ֟ , ֋ ׻֋ ו ֓ , ֮ ֮ ֟ և ִ֟ ִ ֮ ן׮׬֟ ֲ ׬ , ֤ ևיÙ , ִ ֯֙ , ױ þֺ ֮, ֮ ָ Դָ֤֮ , և ִ߸ ֟ ֮ ֳ ״ֻօ

, ֻ ֤ á 'ֵ ־֮ ֵ ֮' ָ פ ׸ ן և ֕ ֤ ִֻ þ־ֻӲ ֮օ

(2 ָ ֿ:)

2S/HMS-RSS/4.10

0 ִ ӛָ (֟) : , 1951 ָ 000 61 ָ ֤֮ , ָ֮ 22 ָ ָ ֵ ִֵ ֟ ָ ֟ Ӿ ֟ ָ ٣ ߜ ֮ ֟ ߅ , ָ ֳ 6 Ӿ 70 ןֿ֟ ֲ֤ Ӿ ֟ ו֮ ׬ӿ ָ ֕ ãן 40 ןֿ֟ ֮ ֮ ֲ֕ , ָ ָ ִ ״ֻ ֋, ָ ָ ״ֻ ֋ ֻ ֋ ־ֻ ֮ ? , ׮׿֟ ֕ ֮ ֤ 滵, ו֮֟ , ״ֻ ֯ ֳ ֟ ו֋, ו֮֟ , ״ֻ ֕ 50 ןֿ֟ ֮ ֮ ֮ ָ ãן ׯ֔ 10 30 ָ ֮ ֟- ָ ֟ Ϥ , ו֮ ָ ֕ , Ϥ ֮ ֟- , ߛ ֟ Ӿ ֮ ֟ , ֕ ֟-

, ߔ ָ ָ 60 70 ןֿ֟ ֻ ָ ׮ֳԸ ָ ׸ ָ ׸ ԅ , ָ ײָ ֟ , ֻ ӛ ֛-֛ פ ֻ ֟ , ו֮ ָ ָ ׮ֵӡ ָ ֻ ָ ߓ ֟ ֻ ֜ , ֮֋ , Ӿ ֛ ֤ ֻ ֟ ָ ߯־ֻ ֜ և ֻ ָ , ׻֮ ֮ ָ , ֜ ֟ ֲ ֲԤ ֟ ָ ָ ֯ ָ ֻ ֋ ֮ ãן ָ ִֵָ ֱ ֵ֟ ֕ ֯ן - ךև , ָ ֮ ָ 4-5 ָ, ֯ 50 ָ ֟ , ָ ֮ ָ ߕָ ֟ ָ ֟ ӟ ֲ֕ և ֻ ֋

, ִֵ ֟ ָי ֮ ֤ ֤, ߕ ״ֻ ֟ ֕ ãן ֤ ״ֻ ߕ ãן

(2 /ߋ־ ָ ֿ:)


PSV-MKS/2T/4.15

0 ִ ӛָ (֟) : ֮ ָ , ֲ ִֵ ָ ֮ ״ֻ, ֤ ״ֻ, ײֻ֕ ״ֻ? ָ , ֻ ָ ֟ , , ֳָ 滵 , ו֮֟ ֟ , ֮ ִֻ ָָ ׻ ִ֓ ׸֟Ԯ ֛օ ֻ ߴ ָ ֻ ߴ ֲ ֻ ָ֤ , ֻ ߴ ֮ כ ֛ ָ ֓ ֮ כ ֛ ָ ֟ ָ ֮

ꤵ, ִֻ ָ ָ֮ ֺ ֮ ן ָ ײָ ו֮֟ , ָ֮ ֮ ִ , ָ ײָ ִ ָ ָ Ϥ ָ Ϥ , ֟ , ָ , ִ פ ָ ײָ ֲ ײָ ִ ֲ ־ֿ ֛ , attitude , ֯ ִ֬ և ״׮Ù ֮ ן ָ - ׻֋ ֮ ֱֻ -ֲ, ׻-ָև, פ ָ-ָ ָև , ֲ ֛-֛ ֯ןֵ ֋, ֋ , ֱֻ ָև , ָ attitude , ֤֮ ֛օ ִ ָָ ֮ ״ ׮־

, ֮ ָ ׻֋ ִõֆ ָ ֓ ׻֋ , ָ þֵ֢ ã֮֯ ֟ , ׾ָ֓ ײֻ ָ ִֵָ ָ ֙ כ ֤ פ ֻ ױ ...(־֮֬)...

0 ִֵָ : ֯ ֟

0 ִ ӛָ : ֻ ױ כ ֙ פ , ָ ָ ӕֲ, ׸, ײָ, ָ Ϥ, פ ֲ Ϥ ֮ ܵ כ ָ ֵ , ֤ ךև , ֱ ִӤ ֓֋х ָ ִӤ ֱ , ךև ָ ָ ֙ פ ֮֋, ׻֋ օ ָ ױ ֯ ִ֬ ӡ ֮ ãן ֮ߵ ߛ , ָ 000 ָָ ֮ ן ״֙ Ӆ

ָ, ׮ֵ ֓ ָ, SEZ ֛ ִ ָ֮ SEZ ׻֋ 200 և ׻֋ ִ߮ ֋? ׻֋ 2-4 ִ߮ ־ֿ ֮֮ߵ ׮ֵ ָ ֮ דӟ ֮ ֕։ ִ߮ , ֋ ׻֋ ִ߮ ֋, ו ָ ֕ ָ ֛, - ִ߮ ֯ ֻ ֻ , ָ Ӯ ֜ SEZ ׻֋ 10 ָ ֤ ֕ ֻ ִ߮ , ֮ ֤ؕ ֮ ֺ ָ ֮ ָ ֋, ָ ֋օ ֯ ֟ ׻֋ ִֵָ ֳָ ֌ ײֻ ִ֣Ԯ ֮ ִõ ָ ָ ֮ ׾ָ֓ ֮ ָ פօ ֯ ֮־֤ (ִ֯) (2 ָ ָ)

-MKS-TMV-KLG/2U/4.20

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): Thank you, Prof. Bhandari. Mr. Santosh Bagrodia.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (RAJASTHAN): Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chairman, Sir. I compliment my colleague and Whip, Narayanasamyji, whose whip I have to face every morning. But he has moved this Agricultural Produce (Remunerative Prices) Bill, 2006 for the benefit of the farmers of the country. This has been brought at the appropriate time. This is the need of the hour for the nation and the Government's attention has been drawn to the fact that the farmers are not paid remunerative prices. It is not a charity; it is not a help; but it is a necessity for the country. I remember that not very long ago our country used to import lakhs and lakhs tonnes of foodgrains under the PLA. The country was dependent on imported foodgrains. We were not sure about the kind of foodgrains that would come. I remember that the USA used to send wheat which was not good for human consumption. But we had very little choice. We had to take it. Our citizens had to depend on such quality of wheat which the European countries and the USA were feeding their animals. At that time, it was the vision of our late Prime Minister and the leader of the Congress Party, Shrimati Indira Gandhi, who brought out the policy of Green Revolution. The results were known to everybody. The entire country knew that we didn't have to import any more foodgrains. Good quality foodgrains were available to the citizens of the country from within the country. We could raise our heads in the presence of the developed countries and say that our country, our great India, is self-sufficient in foodgrains. In fact, when there was need, we could even export foodgrains to other countries. Unfortunately, new Governments came. What happened between 1996 and 2004 was that the then Governments paid very minimal attention to the food requirements of the country. The result was that foodgrain production was not increasing at the pace at which it was required, as per the increase in the population and as per the increase in the living standards of the Indian citizens.

(Contd. by VK/2W)

VK/2W/4.25

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD): The country again started thinking: Do we need to import it because this is a long-term policy? When our Government came to power in 2004, the Agriculture Minister immediately looked into the needs of the country and decided to import it. At that time, the people who are now sitting in the Opposition, who were ruling the country before, started shouting from the rooftops: why do we need to import? I would like to tell them that it is because of their own policies. When our Government took over, we had to plan for imports to feed the poor people of the country at any price. When we have to feed the people, the question of price does not come in the way. These were the people, who had drawn these policies, because of which the country suffered. The same people are now saying, "Why do we need to import?" Sir, I remember very clearly that when there was surplus sugar in the country in 2001-02, these people started importing sugar that too without any duty. The result was, there was complete glut in the market. Farmers stopped producing sugarcane. As you know, Sir, once the sugarcane production starts, after one year you really don't need to make efforts to get sugarcane production. But due to the policies of the then Government, farmers had to burn their sugarcane produce in the fields because no remunerative price was available. Sugar mills were not able to pay even the MSP. How many sugar mills had to be closed in Uttar Pradesh, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra because of the wrong policies of the NDA Government?

Sir, I will come to the fixing of MSP a little later. Similarly, if I talk about tea, it sounds that tea is an industry. But the base is agriculture. It was again during the period of the NDA Government when they started importing tea free of duty from nearby countries and also from long distance countries like Kenya. The result was, tea gardens in south India had to be abandoned. The tea workers suffered. Of course, there was also vagaries of weather, but it was due to nature. The then
Government was also quite insensitive. Fifty percent of the tea gardens in south India have been abandoned. How do we improve the lot of the farmers? (Contd. by 2X)

RG/4.30/2X

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (contd.): Of course, MSP is a very important matter. But we have to supply them the ingredients. Now what are the ingredients? The first requirement is seeds. We have to provide them improved quality seeds at the right time and at the right price so that the productivity per hectare can increase, so that better quality produce can be made, and that is what would bring good prices to the farmers. The second is supply of fertilisers at the right time and at the right price. For 50 years and even now, much to the desire of the Government, it has been giving subsidy on fertilisers. But I am really not sure whether the entire subsidy goes really to the farmers or it is diverted somewhere in between. That has to be seen. I request the hon. Minister to find out a method by which any subsidy, if at all given to the farmers, is given to them directly so that they can get the real benefit out of it. The same is the case with chemicals. The right type of chemicals has to be provided at the right time. And, they have to be educated as to how much chemicals have to be used; how much fertilisers have to be used. Sir, you know that in the European countries, the quality restrictions are very tough. We cannot export our agriculture products because of stringent quality controls set by the European countries. Sir, basically, our country did not know about fertilisers; our country did not know about chemicals. These are the developed countries which exported their fertilisers and chemicals to our country. They only introduced them to us, and these are the same countries which do not want to buy our products because they say that we use fertilisers and chemicals. When they talk about stringent quality controls, they talk about phytosanitation and all kinds of things just to find excuses for not importing agricultural products from our country. I request our hon. Minister and the Government to kindly look into these aspects. Educate our farmers so that they can produce the right quality and at the right price, so that their goods can be exported to the European countries and the U.S. where we can get a better price for our goods. A number of WTO meetings have been held. There have also been bilateral meetings, and I had an opportunity to discuss with Parliamentarians coming from those countries. I have been raising these issues in these fora, and I also told them that they should have different standards of goods in their market. So, whatever we are producing, there is a market in their country also. At least, on our part, if we are able to persuade them, they can import whatever we are producing for the time being, but, in the meanwhile, we can improve upon it. Of course, that improvement itself will take three to four years. The quality cannot be changed overnight. (Continued by 2Y)

2y/4.35/ks

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD.): It takes time. What do our farmers do during this period?

Coming to power, Sir, I dare say, as a political activist -- and I am in tears when I say this -- that we are not honest. A number of States have offered free power to farmers. But that is only in name. You tell them, "We will give you free power", but you actually don't give it to them. Which State is giving power for more than three to four hours a day? What are we talking about? A number of farmers, with whom I have had the opportunity to meet, are willing to pay. They say, "You install meters, charge us, but give us power; give us power round-the-clock".

I would like to draw the attention of the hon. Minister here because it is not only the question of farmers, it is a question of the entire economy of the country. Because they want to restrict power supply to farmers, intentionally, in the process, Sir, our small industries, rural industries -- the hon. Minister is here -- also suffer along with the silently suffering farmers. We have only one grid, one line; they stop supply for the farmers because they think they are going to get it free and in the process, these industries also suffer. You can imagine, Sir, if the economy of the small industry, the rural industry, which are producing 40 per cent of the production in the country can improve, what will happen to the GDP of this country. It is just one single item that is, power, which has to be managed properly. If our agriculture can get power, if small industry can get power in the villages, if our rural industries can get power, all these people who are living in the villages, will change the shape of the country. I am not saying that we do not need big, big plants; but I am strongly saying that we cannot do without these industries and without these farmers. That is a must for the survival of our country. And we are not paying enough attention to them.

Just now, my good friend, Shri Ramdeo Bhandary, had mentioned about the SEZs. Sir, he has mentioned that we can give ten per cent of the agricultural land. Already, Soniaji has mentioned that no agricultural land should be acquired for industries. Sir, I am of the view that no land should be acquired. Forget about agriculture...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Then where will you have industries?

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: I will tell you where. I will give you a solution to that problem also. Nothing is in the air. Land is very much available in the country. Since you have raised this question, I would like to explain, through you, to the entire country. (Contd. by 2z/tdb)

TDB/2Z/4.40

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD.): Sir, somebody is staying there. He is owning this property for 200 years. It is being owned by them generation after generation. We are in a democratic set up. What right do we have to take away that land by force? You will say that it is being acquired for public purpose. What public purpose is there in this? If this land is acquired for making a road, then, it is a public purpose, and I have no objection in acquisition of that land. If it is acquired for constructing a dam, I have no objection. If it is acquired for constructing a bridge, I have no objection. When it is actually going to be used for public purpose, I have no objection in acquisition of that land. Industry is not a public purpose. This is where I object. Nowhere in the world -- I am not talking about China -- it is being done. In all our various discussions, when we talk about SEZs, they say that China is giving land for setting up of SEZs. But, nobody realises that in China there is no private land. There, the land belongs to the Government. You also give your Government land for SEZs, and whatever you do there, I have no objection. But, the land which is with the poor villagers, the land which is owned by the poor people should not be taken away. In fact, only a small portion of land is now left in their hands, and that land is also being taken over. For what purpose is that land being taken over? It is being taken over for putting up industries there. What type of industries are being put up there? If I go into the volume of land which is being used for this purpose and all these details, then, it will be a big subject matter to discuss. But, since this is one subject which is very dear to me, I would like to say something. Sir, the hon. Minister for Small Scale Industries is sitting here, and I would like to inform the House that no land is being given either by the Government or by the SEZs to put up small industries. They have to procure the land from the open market. No land is being given for setting up rural industries. They have to procure it from the open market. This is the position in many States, including West Bengal which supposedly talk about small industries. Sir, recently, I was in Kolkata for attending a meeting, and I was told that no land was being given by the Government for setting up small industries there. But, they will give land to the foreigners! They will give land to big people for setting up large industries. Why don't they give land to small industries? This is a commercial transaction. Let them buy the land.

Sir, you asked me a question whether we should put up industries in the air. No. We cannot put up industries in the air. You can't have agriculture also in the air, Sir. That also has to be on the land; industry also has to be on the land. Let them buy the land from the open market. And, what is the policy, in this regard? Because of this fight by our Committee, I should say that the Punjab Government has decided that a SEZ will be allowed only after the entrepreneur gets 75 per cent land on his own and 25 per cent they will acquire. In case of Haryana Government, it is 80 per cent and 20 per cent. I want to know if they can procure 80 per cent land or 75 per cent land, then, why don't they get 100 per cent land? Sir, this is a business.

Sir, I would like to tell you one more thing. A lot of land is lying unused in PSUs which are closed. You can have your SEZ there. Thousands of crores of acres of land is lying unused there. If you want to give that land for SEZ, I have no objection. We have a lot of land available in Rajasthan. Land is available in different parts of the country where there is no agriculture. In that land, no mineral is found. That is lying unused. If you want land, then, you can use that land. But, that land also has to be purchased by the entrepreneur. Don't take it away from the poor people. Forget about taking 10 per cent of agricultural land. Don't take an inch of land from agriculturists. (Contd. by 3a-kls)

KLS/3A/4.45

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD): That is how I want to mention it. They must buy in the open market and they pay the open market price if they want to do business. Every State Government is offering them vland. He said something about 200 SEZs. Now because of this policy that land is not to be acquired by the like this freely, because of the serious objections made by countrymen, the people who wanted to put up SEZs have gone slow. They do not want to come forward. It was only the land mafia who wanted to have SEZs. So, Sir, I am not against putting up industries. We need industries in the county. But let it be done on commercial terms. Let us not do it at the cost of the farmers. This is what I want to say, if this discussion takes place in the House again, and if my party permits me, I would like to explain further on SEZ, that it should never be done because it will be very much against the interests of the country. What is a remunerative price? Sir, the word 'remunerative' itself means that the farmers should get a price, which is good enough for them to make some reasonable profit. That is what is remunerative price. But when we decide the prices, does the Government decide them based on the remuneration? No, they have got their own formula. ...(Interruptions)... These prices are uniform all over India. I cannot understand how can the price for a commodity in Punjab be same as in Kerala or Andhra with the same MSP, how can it be the same when the conditions are so different? The weather conditions are different, the labour conditions are different, the land price is different, the fuel price is different, input cost is different and even the sale price is different. But the so-called MSP is the same. Sir, it is even different from district to district. Maybe, it will be difficult for the Government to decide district-wise but at least it should be decided State-wise. You cannot take a decision on all-India basis, which is not realistic. Why are these suicides? If I see again, I think, all of us sitting here, and those who are not sitting also ...(Interruptions)... That is what I am saying. We should be ashamed. If you see the suicide figures in 2001 -- I do not know the figures before that -- in Andhra Pradesh 233, 2002-03- 280, 2003-04 - 258, and 2004-05 - 758. These are the figures given by the State Governments. This is what is happening. Similarly, in Karnataka, Sir, 2000-01 -- 2630 suicides, 2001-02 -- 2505, 2002-03 -- 2344, 2003-04 -- 708, at least, they have been reduced, and 2004-05 -- 260. Now, I think this is not the responsibility only of the Government. I think every citizen in the country should be concerned about it. Sir, same thing has happened in Maharashtra and from 2001 to 2004, 64, 131, 180 and 532 deaths have taken place. And in Punjab not many, but even one death in 2001 and two deaths in 2003 and I feel this is a point of concern.

(Contd 3B)

-KLS-SSS/3B/4.50

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD.): Even if a single farmer dies, this country should take it seriously. We cannot ignore that. There can be no tolerance. There has got to be zero tolerance. The figure in your State Sir, in 2002 was 44. In 2003, 40 farmers died. In 2004, it increased to 96. Even in Tamil Nadu, Sir, in 2004 and 2005, 31 farmers died. Now, with this situation, still we want to say that we will take the land of the farmers who are daring to live in the country because they still live. Is it fair to them? Sir, all of us have to ponder over it very seriously. Why? Even if there is a single death in the country by any farmer, we have to bring our heads together, take policy decisions and take all necessary steps and say that from now onwards no farmer will die. You want me to finish, Sir, I will finish. I do not know because if you want me to continue I will continue up till 5 0' clock or if you want me to finish I say, thank you very much.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): Mr. Moinul Hassan has given his name and he is waiting.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: They will never finish today in any case. It has got to continue next time. So, I will just take a few minutes more.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Yes.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: Just for statistical purposes, for 2006-07, the MSP for paddy has been fixed at Rs. 620 a quintal for common variety of paddy and Rs. 650 a quintal for graded variety of paddy which includes an incentive bonus of Rs. 40 a quintal. Sir, I will come to wheat also. Again, what do you mean by incentive? Hon. Minister is sitting here. Why do you want to give incentive? Just to increase the rates? You create confusion in the minds of the farmers and what happens? Somebody buys it earlier. He gets it at a lower rate and when the Government finds that they are not able to procure enough they increase the incentive. That is what happened with wheat this year. The result is, you could not procure enough foodgrains and there is discrimination. Some farmers got less and some farmers got more. Why not fix up a right price at the right time? Announce it and that should be an incentive for the farmers to produce. That should be announced enough in advance. Sir, just for your information and I would like to inform the Government also that only 19 per cent of the farmer households are aware of MSP and the details of agency procurement. Whose responsibility is it? Of course, it is the State Government's. But, overall monitoring is done by the Central Government. We cannot say, 'we are not responsible'. Only 19 per cent of the farmers know about MSP. Only 10 per cent are aware of the concept of MSP. There is no awareness. But, Sir, some States like Punjab have 63 per cent awareness, Haryana has 62 per cent awareness, Kerala has 61 per cent awareness, but unfortunately, in my State, Sir, it is very low. It is only 11 per cent. Orissa and Jharkhand have 12 per cent awareness. Bihar has 19 per cent awareness, Assam 22 per cent awareness. Even in a State like Maharashtra, it is only 28 per cent. So, I think it is the responsibility of MPs also to bring about an awareness. Government, of course, has to make more efforts. How do we make them more aware?

(Contd. by NBR/3C)

-SSS/NBR-NB/3C/4.55.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA (CONTD.): Now, I come to the MSP for wheat. Sir, it was again the NDA Government and I want to prove the wrong policies made by the NDA. In 2000-01, the MSP for wheat was Rs. 610, in 2001-02, it was Rs. 620 and in 2002-03, the MSP stood at the same level of Rs. 620! Nobody can justify this. After all, every year, the Wholesale Price Index has been going up. At least, there should have been some increase every year. In two years, the NDA did not increase the MSP! And, there is only a nominal increase of Rs. 10 in the next year i.e., Rs. 630 and, again, an increase of only Rs. 10 the following year i.e., Rs. 640. It is only after our Government came to power we fixed the MSP at Rs. 650 plus a bonus of Rs. 50. It was done last year. I don't know whether this year the Government announced the MSP of Rs. 700, or, is still pending. Even if the Government announces the MSP of Rs. 700, how can you justify this MSP of Rs. 700 which you had already given last year? That is why, again, last year you could produce only 92.23 lakh tonnes against 206 lakh tonnes in 2000-01. Why is it coming down every year? It is because the MSP is very low and unimaginative. I don't know what we are planning for. Whom are we fooling like this? I, again, want to say that there is an anomalous situation. Sir, in 1996-97, the MSP was Rs. 380 and the procurement was at Rs. 475. Despite the procurement at Rs. 475, in 1997-98, the MSP was Rs. 455 -- less than the price at which it was procured the previous year! And, finally, it was procured at Rs. 510. This is what is happening in our Government system. Sir, only two or three minutes left for the day.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Bagrodia, we also have to take up Special Mentions.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: I will continue afterwards.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Okay.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: I don't mind stopping here. But, still, there are two/three minutes left. If you want me to continue up to 5 o' clock, I will continue. Otherwise, I will stop here and continue my speech afterwards. I have no problem.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: I thought that Mr. Moinul Hassan will start his speech. He has also given his name.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: Sir, in two minutes he cannot speak anything. Let him start next time.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Then you continue up to 5 o' clock. Then, we will take up Special Mentions. You are making very important points. So, please continue.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: In 2004-05, the total production of foodgrains was 204 million tonnes and it was reduced, of course, mainly due to climatic conditions. But, I want to say, if the production is less, what happens is this. You put fertilizers and chemicals in anticipation of producing more during the year and at the end of the year if the production is less than the anticipated one, you become helpless since you have already incurred the cost. So, your total cost per tonne becomes much more than your projected cost. That becomes a difficult situation. But, I hope our hon. Minister will do something about it so that the production increases this year. At the same time, I complement the Government for the record oilseed production which stood at 26.10 million tonnes and cotton which stood at 23.20 million bales during the same period.

Sir, you are looking at me. Does it mean that you want me to continue on 8th December, 2006 -- the date for next Private Members' Bills? (FOLLOWED BY USY "3D")

 

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