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HK-ASC/3e/4.00

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: He is an ordinary criminal. ..(Interruptions).. He is given treatment. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: You are losing your power. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: If on humanitarian basis somebody is given treatment, is it bad?. ..(Interruptions).. We have also seen in this country that some convicted persons are given the seat of Chief Ministers. ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI): You have made that point. ..(Interruptions).. Can you go to the next point? ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: Yes, Sir. I am going to the next point. Now I come from an accused person to a convicted person. This is my another point. A convicted person was offered a seat of Chief Minister. That has happened..(Interruptions).. Therefore, there is nothing wrong in giving treatment to an accused person. ..(Interruptions)..

DR. K. MALAISAMY: He is going too far. ..(Interruptions).. What is the relevance of it? ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: I am on my legs. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: What is he concerned? ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Will you let me handle this? ..(Interruptions).. Please let me handle this. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: Can you deny that a convicted person was not offered the seat of Chief Minister? ..(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: Can you deny that you are misusing the power in Tamil Nadu? ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Please let me handle this. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: Tell the answer. ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI): If you let me handle ..(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI S.G. INDIRA: Is he talking about Mumbai blasts? ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Can you kindly take your seat? ..(Interruptions).. Please let me handle this. ..(Interruptions).. Let me handle this. ..(Interruptions).. May I request you to kindly go to your next point? You do not have much time. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM:I have made my point. ..(Interruptions)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: You hardly have one more minute. Now it is time for you to conclude. In conclusion, whatever you have to add, kindly do that.

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: I will do that.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Kindly go beyond Tamil Nadu.

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: We have to analyse the situation in Mumbai and what has prompted us to do it is not some incidents that happened recently. When we look back, the history of modern India has to be divided into two parts. As an hon. Member was telling, the incidents which happened prior to 6th December 1992 and incidents which happened after 6th December, 1992 have to be compared. He has made a correct statement. The history of India will definitely be divided into two parts like the English calendar of BC and AD -- before 6th December, 1992 and after 6th December, 1992. All are the consequences of the demolition that had taken place. Who is responsible for this? Whoever has supported it, whoever offered Kar Sewa, they are all responsible for this incident. With these words, I thank you. (Ends)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI): Shri T.S. Bajwa. Not present. Shri Syed Azeez Pasha.

֤ ߕ ֿ (֮ Ϥ ) : ֳ֬ , 㴲և ԙ , ß֮ ֮ ֮ ׌ ô ֟ ֟ ֻ 㴲և , ׻ ָ ß֮ ׮ֵ ִ ֮ և , ו֮ -֤ ß ԙ ֤ ô ־׻ֵ ׮ֿ֮ ֟ ֣, ׮֙ ß ָ Ӥ ׸Ù ִ ָ ִִ ׮֙ ִ֤ ֋ ֟ ׮ֵ֤ ׸Ù ׸ߕ֮ (3F/NB ָ ֿ:)

-ASC/NB/3F/4.05

֤ ߕ ֿ (֟) : ֟ - "֕ ֟, ֯ ֮", ֕ ֟ ָֿ օ ָ ־ֻ ָ֟ , ֤ ֮ ֟ ֻ֟ ִ ֱ 15 ןֿ֟ ָ֟ ָ ֤ ־֮ ִ , ֙ ־ Ù֮ ֵ֕, ָ Ù֮ ֟ ׻֋ ֟ ײֻ ֻ֟

ֳ֯ן , ֤ ָ ־ֻ ֵ ֵ ׮֙ ֣ appeasement ֮ ִ֤ ֕ ֤֟ ß ָ ß֮ ֿ ָ֡, freelance journalist , ևԤ 10 ֻ RSS ӓֻ - ֻ ָ ә כ֮ ֯ ֯ օ ֌ ֟ ֻ ָ ֯ appeasement ֟ , appeasement community ֵ֤ ? ָ , ֟ ֻ֟ ß֮ ָ ִ֕ , ִ ִ ֛ ׯ֔ ָ Time ֕߮ և ִ ׾ñ ָ Ӥ ׻ national average ִֻ֮ economic conditions - literacy , educational standards bank loans , ָ ֋, national average 10 12 ןֿ֟ ׻֋ ײֻ ׮ֵ֤ appeasement ֟ߕ , ו ֕ ׮֙ ִֻ

ֳ֯ן , ֤ ֤ Communist Party of India ָ ָ ֳ floor leader ִָ 㯟 Ӳև ֋ --ָ֟ ָ ï֙ ֋ ֮ ֵܴ ֤ ߅ Western Railway headquarter ָ ֋ officials ֮ ֟֓ߟ , ִ ׸ ֟֓ߟ ߅ ֮ ֛ ԙ ֤, ӓ ״֮֙ Ӥ, ֙׸ - ֻ , ָ߲ , ûִ , ֲ ֤ ָ , -ָ ֤ ߅ ׻ ָ ֤ , ִ ֤ -ָ ֤ ߅ ׻֋ ָ ָ ֛ ֵֻ ïֻ֟ ֮ ׻֋ ֮ כ ßֻ օ ֛ և ֕ ׮ֵ֟ ֤ؕ ָ ָ ִ֓ , ו֮ ִ ӛ ֤ ָ ׻ֿ ֋, ָ ױ -ûִ ֤֟ -֮ ָ ֲִֵ , ֛ positive aspect

ֳ֯ן , ֣-֣ Ӥ ֟ ֟֋ ֋, וִ֮ -ָ ֤ , ָ ֟ Ӥ corporate hospitals ï֙ , ߻־֟ ï֙ , ߻־֟ ï֙ 33 ܴ admit ï֙ 31 ܴ admit ֟ ֵ֤ , ־ ״׮Ù ֕ ֓ ָֿ ֵ֤ , ׻֋ ï֙ ֻ - bed ָ 5 ָ 6 ָ ֓ פֵ , ֮ Five Star Hotel ָ ֤ ֓ פֵ ֮ ײֻ פ ָ ״ֻ ״ֻ֟ ָ ï֙ ֻ ֵ֕֕ ֵ֤ ֵ

ֳ֯ן , Ӥ ֕̾ߕ suggestions ֋ , ֻ technical suggestions , ו֮ ָ Ӳև , ָ ֱ , 4 ָ , ׻֋ ָ ֟ ֮ ֮, ָ ִ , , ֮ ִ 3G/AKG ָ ֿ:

AKG/3G/4.10

֤ ߕ ֿ (֟) : ֿ׾ָ ֵ overhead luggage rakes , ָ luggage ֟ , ß ֋? 㴲և ߾ֻ , ֛-֛ luggage , - ִ֮ , ֮ ӑ ָ ׻֋ ָ ָ overhead luggage rakes ß , ָ ߕ ֮ ӕև ߅ ֣ ָ ߙ ߓ ִִ cover פ ֋, ׻֕ technically ָ ߕ ֮ ӕև ߅ ֟ ֟

֣-֣ ָ ָ intelligence agencies , intelligence agencies ֤ ֲ֕ ֻ ևԲ ־֕ ֟ Ù ׻ ָ ִ , ִ ָ ִ Central Intelligence Agency ׸֟ Intelligence Agency co-ordination ֕ co-ordination , ֲ֕ ׻֋ ֕֙ allocation ֣-֣ disaster management ָ ֮ , 㴲և ֟֟ ָ disaster management ִ օ ָ ִ ִֻ ֟, ֻ ֮ ֮ ֵ

ָ ֟ ֮ ֟ ֟ х investigation ֟ ֟ , arrest ֵ ֮ ֛ , ׻֋ arrest ֛, interrogate ֛օ ָ interrogation ִ ָ arrest ָ ߮, ֻ ֋, ׮֙ alienation process ֋օ ִֻ ׻ ו֮֟ agencies , ָ ֮ ֤ ֟ ׿ָ ꅠ ֯ ֔ ֤ , unconditionally ׸

ָ ׮ִԻ ֯ӛ ֟ , ײֻ , ָ ֮ - օ (ִ֯)

(ָ™) : ֳ֬ , ֟ ֜ ֙ֆ, ׾ֿ 㴲և ֻ 11 և ִ 6.20 6.40 7 ִ ִ , וִ֮ ָָ ָ 198 ׮֮֬ 712 ֵֻ ֲָ ׿֟ ָ ֋, ָ ֻ ܵ 200 ׬ ܴ 750 ׬ ֟, , ָ , ָ, ߾ֻ, ߸ ֵָ פ ־ Ù֮ ָ Ù

ֳ֬ , 㴲և ָ֟ ֙֋ , ָ 㴲և ו ֮, פ 㴲և ֮ 20 ״֮֙ organized way ו ָ 㴲և ִ Ù ֙ , 㴲և ևԅ ִ ֟ , ֮ , ֯ , ו פ ָ֋ ܵ ֵԻֵ ָ ֲ ֻ , ֲ ָ ָ™ ׻ ֟ ߅ ֤֟ , ָ ֵָօ ׻ - information ״ֻ, - ָ™ ׻ ևԅ ָ™ ִܵӡ ׳֮Ӥ ֙ ֬ ә ֤ ָָ ӡ , ִ ևԅ , ָ ׿־ָ֕ י ָ ׮ֵ Ӭ , ֮ և ֙ ֲ 㴲և ֮ ֙֋ , ָ ֟ ֤֟ ֙֋ information , ֲ ֕ , ֲ-ֲ ֟ , 㴲և ׻ ִ ֮ 1993 ߲ 110 ָ ִ ׾ñ 1993 12 ֓ ָ ָ֕, ָ כ ָ, ָ֕, ־֮, ׿ָ Ù (3 ָ ֿ:)

3H/HMS-SK/4.15

(֟): ו֮ 200 ֤ ֮ ֵ 713 ܴ ֮ 93 ֤ ֙֋ ֲָָ ֙֋ ִ ֙֋ ִ ֤״ֵ ָ ֮ ׻֋ ؓ֟ ׾ֵ ׻֋ ׻֋ ֙ ֟

ֳ֬ , ֮ ӳ߸ ׾ֵ ֤ ֓ ׻֋ ו ֳ ٙ ֤ ֮֟ خ֤ ׻֋ ֕ ָ خ֤ ֻ ֙֋ Ӳև ָ , ׻֋ ִ ֺ ֳ֬ , ׿־ָ֕ י , ָ ӡ ׮ֵ ïߙ ֵ ָָ ָֿ߮ ֟ ָ ֤ ִ , ׻ ֮ Ӳև ֙ ãֻ ָ ֋ ו֮֟ ֤ ߅ ïߙ ֮֟ , ֳ ״ֻ ֤ ֙ ָ ֻ خ֤ ָ ד֟ ִ ׻ ֤ ׿ֿ ߅

ֳ֬ , ֟ ֕ ָ ֙ֆ ߔ ֤֟ ? ו ִ֕ ֕ ״ֻ֮ ִ֕ , ûִ ִ֕ ִ֕ ִ֕ ָ ֙֋ , ׻֯ ״ֻ֟ , ָ ֵԾ 93 ֙ ֕ ԅ ָ ֵָ ָ ָֿ߮ - ֲ ֟ ו֮ , ֵ ߱ ֵ, "" ׻ ֟ , ֕ ׻ ֟-֟ ։ ߴ ִ ֲ ֻ , ֟ ׻֋ ֙֋ ו -ִ , ֮ ꌵ׸ ֮ ׻֋ וִָ ִ ׻ ִ , ֻ ״ֵ ו ֟-֟ , , ֮ ֲ-ִ ֟ , ֳ , ָ֟ ֺ ָ ֓ , , ָ™ ָָ ָָ ӱ֮ ״ֻ , ָ ֺ օ ֲ֤ ֋, ִ ָ ߕ ״ֻ ֯ ֙ ֤ ָ֟ ߮ Ӥ ֲ ֙ ָ ֕ וִָ ָ ֵ֮ ָָ ִ , ׯ֔ ֌ ׬ָ , Ӥ פօ ֮־׬ָ ֟ , ֲ ָ ֤֟ ֙֋ ֲ ׻ ׬ָ ִ , ֲ ָ ֮־֟־֤ ָ ֟ , ׬ָ ִ օ ׻֋ Ӳև , ָ™ ָ ֳ ״ֻ ׻֋ ֵ , ָ ֙ֆ ֤ Ӳև ָ ִ ֛ Ӳև ֳָ֟ ֻ ֱ - ә ֟ Ӥ , ױ ֲ 4-5 ֕ Ӳև ִ ָ ֟ ָָ ָ֟ ֻ ֟ ܵ ӡ ִ , ֳ ֙ ִ ߮ פ ָ֟ ֳ ״ֻ ָ ֟ ִ ָ ִ ׾ñ ֟ ָ ֳ , ֟ ֮֮ ֻ ָ ָ™ ָ ִ ִ , , ֮ ׻ וִָ , ֲ֤ , ߛ , Ӥ , ָ ׾֤ , ָ־֟ , ֻӾ - ָ ֙ߕ ֟ , ֮ ׻ ִ ûִ ִ (3 /ߋ־ ָ ֿ:)

PSV-YSR/3J/4.20

(֟) : ִ ̴֕ ֋, ֻ֟ ִ , ִֻ֮, ֟פ ן ...(ִֵ ә)... ׻֋ ָ , ׮ִֿ ָָ וִָ וִָ ָ ׻ ֱ֟֋ פ , ִ ֱ֟ ״ֻ ֜ ֙֋ , ֕ ֵָ ֻ ֲ ָ ؿ֤ ܵ ӡ , ֲ ֻ Ù , ׸߱ օ ֤ ֲ ֵ ܵ ӡ , ֲ օ ֲ ־ ָ ־ָ օ ֯ ֛ ֟ ִ օ

㴲և ֱ ָ™ ֮֕֬ , ָ ֟ ݻ֤ ֟ , ָ ֟ , ß֮ ֟ ֟ , , - ּ֛ , ֲ ֮ ֺ 㴲և ֮ ֋ , ֺ ָ ֻ Ӥ ָ ִֻ ֛օ ָ ֟ ֟ , ״ֻ֟ ׳ָ ֋ פ ָ ֵ ֋ ָ ...(־֮֬)...

֮ : Ӯ ָ ֻ ...(־֮֬)... ֵ ? ...(־֮֬)...

: ָ ׻֋ ָ™ օ , ָ ־ָ , ׮ֵ Ӭ ִ ֻ֟ ? ...(־֮֬)... , ִ֕ ׻֋ ֤ ִ , ֤ ָ ָ ֲ ...(ִֵ ә)... ֳ֬ , ֕ ָ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI): Please, conclude.

: ָ ָ֛֚, ׸ ֻ-ֻ ִ , ָ ־ã ֮ ֺ ֕ á ֟ , ֮ ׻֋ ֮ ϳ־ ָ י ָ֮ , ֻ ָ™ ֮֟ ֣ ӡ ָ ָ™ ֓ ׻֋ ָև , ו ֯ך ָ ִ ׾ñ , ׻֋ ֲָָ ֺ ִ ֯ ָ וִָ ָ וִָ ֻ ׮ָָ֬ , ִ ָ ֟ , ָ ֮ ֺ ֮ ֲ ֤ ״ֻ , ו֮ ״ֻ֟, ״ֻ֟ , ֮ ִ ֺ ָ-ָ ָ ֲ ֟ ֕ ָ Ӆ ִ ֲ ֙֋ , ׮֮ ֲ ״ֻ ֤֟ ֟ , ָ ϴ ֮־֤, ָ (ִ֯)

MS. PRAMILA BOHIDAR (ORISSA): Sir, terrorist violence is no more confined to fundamentalist groups. It is not even confined to only certain States or areas in the country like Jammu and Kashmir. It is gradually spreading to many other parts of the country. Even States without any international border are also being targeted by terrorists with foreign links. Even States like Orissa without international border are being targeted by terrorists with or without foreign links.

The recent serial bomb blasts in Mumbai is a continuation of the happenings of 1993 bomb blasts. We must thank the civil population of Mumbai who have not only braved the situation, but also have come together to help the blast victims.

While the intelligence and security agencies are working to find out persons responsible for such criminal and anti-national activities, it is necessary to look at the problem with a larger view. Now, it is reported by the media that the Maoists, Naxalites, terrorists and separatists in the North-East are exchanging arms, ammunition, information, and training facilities among themselves.

The Government has to take a total view of the situation. It must look at the Maoist and Naxalite problems in the States of Orissa, Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh and Maharashtra. It is necessary to check any nexus or collaboration between these groups and the foreign aided fundamentalists engaged in terrorist activities.

POTA was an effective law to check terrorism. But it was withdrawn. This encouraged terrorists. They started more violence. Now it is most necessary to adopt a strong law to prevent terrorism. The Government without loss of time should act on this. Thank you, Sir.

(Ends) (Followed by VKK/3K)

3K/klg-vkk/4.25

ӕֵ ֈ (ָ™) : ֳ֬ , ֤ Ӳև ִ Ù ׾ֵ ֕ ֻ , ׻֋ ֯ , ӳ߸ , Ӳև ֵ ֌ֆ ֮ ׾ָ֓ , - ׾ָ֓, - ־ ֋ ׾ָ֓ ֟ , ׾ָ֓ ֌ ֋ ֲ ֤ߵ ׮ִԻ ֯ӛ ֤ ֮ ֟ , ß֮ 괲ֻ ֮ خ֤ ֤ ֤֟ ֻ , ִ ֤ ָ ֟ , ָ ֤ ֵֻ ֟ , ִ֮֬ օ ֮֟օ ָߋ ֟ , -47 ֟ , ׾ñ ֟ ֱ ֟ , ֟ خ֤ ׾ֵ

ָ, ָ֟ , ֜ ֤ߵ ӡ , ֮ "և כ" 26 և ָ և , ֮ , ֺ - "Maoists are going to Mumbai-underworld. Arms belonging to Maoists in Nepal are being smuggled to Mumbai-underworld, according to report of the Directorate of Revenue Intelligence." ӟ ؓ֟ ӳ߸ ֟ ֻ ָ֟ ֜ Ӳև ӛֻ ֻ ? Ӳև ӛֻ ֈ ߴ ֻ , Ӳև ӛֻ ߻ ֻ , Ӳև ӛֻ ֻ ֻ ֲ ß֮ ևԋֆև ꇲ ֲ ֛ ָ ָ ףֵָ ״ֻ֟ , ֟ Ӳև ִ , Ӳև ֤ , ֤ ֜ ֋ ָ ֟ ֤ ֓ , օ

ִ ̴֕ : ֯ ־ ?

شری ابوعاصماعظمی : آپکےکیاسجھاؤہیں؟

ӕֵ ֈ : ־ ֯ ߱ ? ־ ֲ ֈ ִ , ߻ ִ , ֻ ִ , (־֮֬)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI): Don't pay any attention to that. You please carry on.

ִ ̴֕ : ֯ ֲ ָָ , ֮֯ ? ..(־֮֬)

شری ابوعاصماعظمی : آپجبوہاںسرکارمیںتھے،توآپنےکیاکیا؟ ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ӕֵ ֈ : ֲ ֈ ֟ ֟ , ߻ ֟ ֟ .. (־֮֬)

ֳ֬ : ̴֕ , ֯ ֤ ֮ ֻ , ִֵ ֮ ֺ ֋օ

ӕֵ ֈ : ֲ ֈ ִ , և Ù ֯ ֈ ָ ? ß֮ ָ ? (־֮֬)..

߸ י : ָ, ֻ֟ ֟ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֯ ָ , ײֻ ֯ע֮֕ ֟ ..(־֮֬)

ֳ֬ : ̴֕ , ֯ ֮ ִֵ ֋, ֲ ׻֋օ

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ָ™ ֲ ָ ߕ ׿־ ָָ և , ׮ֱÙ ָָ ֋, ֈ ߴ ָָ ָָ , ָ 6 ֻ ִ ׻ֵօ

شری ابوعاصماعظمی : سر،مہاراشٹرمیںجبپہلی باربی۔جے۔پی۔ اورشیوسیناکی سرکارآئی تھی،توانکےمینیفیسٹومیںتھاکہجیسےہمسرکارمیںآئیںگے،ہمداؤدابراہیمکوگرفتارکرلیںگے۔ ہمتوخوشتھےکہگرفتارکرو،مگر 6 سالتکانہوںنےاسکانامہی نہیںلیا۔

ӕֵ ֈ : ָ, ֮ ָ ױ ֻ ֆפ ӛֻ ףֵָ ״ֻ әߕ ׸ , "և כ" ָ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֱ ֮ ֟ ֯ ߱ ? ..(־֮֬)

ֳ֬ ( פ ס־) : ֯ ֮ please don't disturb.

ӕֵ ֈ : ָ ֯ ߱ , ֲ ևԋֆև ֮ , ֈ ִ , ? ָָ , ӡ

3/ ָ

AKA-MKS/3L/4:30

ӕֵ ֈ (֟) : 㴲և ֻ , ֱ 11 ״֮֙ 7 ׾ñ ֋ ֻ ָ ֋, ד֟ֆ , ֵֻ ܴ ָ , ֵֻ ֕ ֤ؕ 50 ֕ ֯֟

֟ ֱ ֙ ׮֮ ֲ ٙ ߅ ֙ , ֛ 㴲և ֵ, Ӿ ֟և - ׮ֵ Ӭ և, ֻ ֛ ֋, ™ן, Ϭִ֮ӡ, ֲ ֋ ָ ֋, ִ ֻ 㴲և ֲ ֯ ֟ ָ ָ ߅ ָ ֟ ֯ , -

"How come blasts occur in Delhi and Mumbai only when

Congress Party is in power?"

ֲ פ ָ™ ֢ , ֲ ִ-Ù ? ־ֻ, ָ , ֟ ־ֲ ӡ ָ

0 ϳ : Ù ֟ , ו֮ ֢ ֤Կ , ֮֮ߵ ֤õ

ӕֵ ֈ : ָ, ֤֟ ׸ ? ֟ ֤֟ ׸ ֮֕ן , ûִ ™ ֮֕ן , ֤֟ ׸ ִ ִֵ ֦ ֟פ ן ָָ ߮֟ , ֕ Ϭִ֮ӡ 0 ִ֮֮ ָ™ ִܵӡߠ ִ֮ ֤ , ִ-Ù ֮ ߮ ָ™ ָָ ߅ ־֮ ־֕, ֕ ָָ 200 㴲և Ù ָ ֋, ֮ؓ֟֕֟ ӳ߸ ֟ ־֮ ־֕ ָ ֕ ָָ , ָָ ֕ ָָ ָ ָև ? օ ׾ñ ֤ ָ ûִ և ™ ֮ , Ӥ ָ֕ ֮ , ֟ ™ן ׌ , ו֮ ֤ , ו֮ ֤ ָ ִ֮ ֟ ֮ ֓ ָ ֮֮ 0 ִ ֮, 0 ִ ֤ ֮ ִ֮ ֤ ֤ և ָ SMS ָ ֵ օ SMS ? ִֻ֮ ֤֟ , ֤֟ ִֻ֮ ? ָ, ֓ ֤֟ ִ , ֕ ִ ִ ָ 㴲և , ָ™ , ֤֟ ֤֟ ߔ ֿ--ֲ, --֤, ß֮ ևԋֆև ָ ܵ ֻ֤ , ֣ ֻ֤׿ֵ ֮ , ֮ , ָ ֲ פ ׿־ , 㴲և 녠 ֻ ֻ֤׿ֵ ֆ, ָ֟ , ߕ ֲ ֻ ָ ֣ ֛։ , ֻ ٴ ־֮ ֟ , ֻ֤׿ֵ ֮ ֮֕ן ָ֕ ֟ ߅

ֳ֬ ( פ ס־) : ֯, ֻ֤ ֮ ֻֻ ״ ֟ ?

ӕֵ ֈ : , ֟ , ֻ֤ ß֮ , ֻ ֻ֤ ֻֻ ֟ ׾֛ ֣ , ֿ֮ ֛ ִ ֮ , ׻Ù ִ ֻ֮ ִ ֮ , ֲ օ ָ™ ֲ-ֲ ָָ , ֲ-ֲ 㴲և , , ־ 㴲և ֻ֤ ֋, ו֮ ִ ׻Ù

('3m/sch' ָ ָ)

TMV-SCH/3M/4.35

ӕֵ ֈ (֟): ־ 㴲և ֤ , ו֮ ִ ׻Ù Ӳ ֤

ָ, ݻ֤ ֟ ? ך֮ ݻ֤ ֯ך ָ ָ ָ ֋ ә׻֕ ׸ , ִ ï™ ֵ ݻ֤׿ֵ ßֻ Ù ־ ֮־ ָ ױ ׸ָ ָ ֟ ֕ ևԋֆև 250 ˵ ׌ ã֮ߵ ݻ֤׿ֵ ׸Ù , ֻ֟ ִ ִ-߸ , ִ , ûָ߯ ֟ ûָ߯ ֲֻ֟ ״ֻ֮ ׸ ֲ ֛ ֤ , ֲ ֟ , 㴲և ֵ ִ 146 ûָ߯ ָ Ϥ ִ ײָ, ׿ִ ֻ ִ ֕ ܵ 80 ָ™ 6 ûָ߯ ִ ָ ֡ ףֵָ ׾ñ ָߋ ׾ñ ָ ִ֮

ָ, ָ ߴֆ ֻ, ß֮ ݻ֤ ߮ ׯ֔ ֻ ָ™ 200 ûִ ׿֟ ֵ ׿ ׻֋ ß֮ ׻ ݻ֤ ֵ ֟ ִӛ ֤ ָ ߴ ָ, Ӳ ֋ Ԯ ׿ ׻֋ ֵ օ

ָ, ӡ ֤ ָ ֟ ֤ ֮־֟ פ ֟ ֤ ٴ ֵ , ִו ֵ , ָ™ ֻӾ ָ֛֚ ֤ ֟ ָ֕ և ֤֟ ן׾׬ֵ ֻ ָ ֋ ־ 㴲և ָ ֋, ӲӬ ֤ օ ֜ ֮ ֻ ִֻ֮ ִ ײ֮ ֤ ֤ ָ ֻ ։, ֛֛ , ֛֛ ֮ ֛օ

ָ ֟ ֲ ԙ֋ , Ù ־ ׸Ù ß֮ ִ ׻ֵ ֟ Every time, after a blast or terror attack, we point fingers at Pakistan which is quite easy. , ָ, ß֮ ִ , ß֮ ֣ ֮ ִ , ։ ֮ ִ ֲ֤ 100 , ֵ , ֳָ ß֮ ։ ֟ օ - ß֮ ֮ , - ß֮ ։ , ָ , ֤ ָ֟  ֟ ֟ ֋ ֤ ׸ ֟ ֋ ֲ ֟ , ֲ ׻֋ ָ֟ ָ ֜ օ

ָ, ֯ ֤ ִֵ , ֮֯ ִֵ פ , ֟ ֲ ֟ ֙ ֟ , ִ ׾ֿ ӲӬ ֟ , ֟ ֤֟ օ ֟ ֮֟ - ֻ ָ֟ ֮֯ ָ ֮ ߅ Ӳ ֛ , ָ֟ և ִ֬ ֤֟ ֙֋ ֮ ֻ ֮ ףֵ ֣ և ָ֟ ׻ ֣ ָ ևԅ ״ֿ֮ ָ , ׻ ֣ ָ ֮ ֤ և ֻ ָ ֻ֟ ꅠ , ָ? , ָ, ֲ ָ ß֮ ֲָ ߤ ָ פ, ֲ ״ֵ֟ և? ִֵ ׮֮ ևԅ ָ ֋ ..(־֮֬) ֯ ..(־֮֬) , , , ָ ß֮ ֲָ ߤ ָ פ , ֲ ֯ ...(־֮֬) ϴ֟ ֤֟ 3N/MCM ָ ֿ:

MCM-VK/3N/4-40

ֳ֬ (0 00׸֮) ߚ߮

ӕֵ ֈ (֟) : ϴ֟ ֤֟ ......(־֮֬) , ָ ֤֟ ָ פ ֯ ֟ ׸Ù ֜ ָ, ֮֟ ֤֟ ֮־֟ ֮ ֛ ׻֋ ֳ ָ ֛և ״ֻ ֮־ ׬ָ ß֮ ֮ ־֮ , ו֮֟ ֤֟ ׿ָ þ֟ӡ֟ ִ ו֮֟ ߤ ׬ ֟ 25 ֻ ֤֟ ָ ֋ ָ, ָ ֮ ָ֟ ָ֟, ֟ ָ ֮ ã֮ פ ӟ ׸ ֵ֤ ֛ ֻ ״ֻ, ִ ֵ֤ ֛ "ָֻ" ִ ׾֟ ׻ , ׾֟? ׾֟ :

" ײָ , כ ,

--ִֻ ׸ ֻ֟ "

כ , ß֮ ֮֯ ֮֯ ӕִ ִ ֤֟ ֚ ֟ ָ֟ ָ֟ ֛ ָ ָ֟ ֟ օ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

ִ ̴֕ (ָ Ϥ) : ָ,  ֓, ֮֯ 㴲և ִ Ù ָ ֮ ִֵ פօ ָ, 11 և 㴲և 7 ָ ֌֟ , ֮ خ֤ , ִ֕֟ ߅ ו֮֟ ְ ̴֕֟ , ֟ ֤ ִֻ֮ , - և , ֲָ ָ ִ ֋, ֲ ִ Ù , ӌֵָ ә- ә-߮ ә Ӥ ûִ ֚ ûִ ֤ ִ ִ Ù ָ, ׸ ִֻ ֮֮ ִ ֮֕ן ׻֋ ִִ , ִִ ٙ ׻֋ ״ֻ ֛ , ֓և ׻֋.....(־֮֬)

ӕֵ ֈ : ָ, ֮֯ ִ .....(־֮֬)

ִ ̴֕ : , ִ , ֲָ ִ ꅠ ֲָ ֱֻ , ָ, ֱ -߮ ֟ ָ-ָ ֟ ֟ ִִ ִֻ֮ ֤֟ , ָ ִִ ֤֟ ִֻ֮ ִִ ־ֻ ֤֟ ׸ ֯ ֟ ו֋ Ӥ Ӭ ֛ օ ִֻ֮ ? Ӥ פ ֬ ߅ ִֻ֮ ? ֕߾ Ӭ ߅ ִֻ֮ ? Ù , ִֻ֮ ? ֌ֻև , ִֻ֮ ? ָ, ָ֟ Ӥ ָ ӓ ָ פ ֋, ֻ פ ֋ ֤֟ ? ֯ ָ ֻ , ֯ ָ ֤֟ ִֻ֮ ֯ ִ ו֋ ֯ ָ֮ ׻֋, ֯ ֮֟ ֯ ֮֟ ֺ ֯ ֲ֮ ִֵ ד֛֮ ׿ֿ ֯ ֻ ָ ֤֟ ִֻ֮ ָָ ו֋, ֲ ֜ ָָ ֮ ָ ֯ ִֻ֮ ִ ֟ ו֋ ֕ Ӥ ֕ , ׿ֵ֮ ֕ , , և , ֕ Ӥ ֮ ֕ ־֟ ִֻ֮ , , ׿ֵ֮ , ׸ߕ֮ ִ ׻֮ , ֯ ֮ ӌֵָ ӌֵָ ָ ִִ ִֻ֮ ֵָ פ ֵ ָ, 㴲և ֵ օ 㴲և Ӥ ִ֟ ִ֟ ִ߮ ߓ ִ֮ ָ ֟ ֣ ׮ֵ ֲֻ֟ ׻י ֻ , ײָ֤ , ֲֻ֟ ֱ ֕ ָ ֟ ִֻ֮, ָ ׮ֵ ִ֕ ֜, , ִ ָ ֻ, ָ ֟օ ָ ֮ ָ ׮ֵ֟ ָ ߕ ֻ , ָָ ׻ֵ ֵօ (3O ָ ֿ:)

SC/RG/4.45/3O

ִ ̴֕ (֟) : ֳ ״ ָ ̸ , ֜ ߅ ß , ß ִ ײ ֟ , , ָָ ֵ, ִֻ֮ ָָ פօ ס֯ ֋ , , ִ֟ ֟ ֲ intellectual , ֮֯ ָָ ׻ֵօ 㴲և ߋ ֵ, , ֻ ֵ߅ ָ ֮֟ ֲ 㴲և ֵ ָ ߸ ֵօ ִ և, ֟ և ֕ ֋ ָָ ֋ և ֕ ֟ ָ פ , ֜ ֕ ֻ ָ ֋ פ , ֲ ֵ ߸ ִֻ֮ ? ״׮Ù ֟ ֋ ߕ 㴲և Ӥ ֋ ׸ָ ֟ ֜ ֕ ׻ ָ ָֻ ָ פ ֜ ֕ ֮ ֲ ֟ ָ ָ ִֻ֮ ִ֟ ֟ ָ, ֯ ֮֟ ֕ ָ ֤֟ ן׾׬ֵ ֜ וִָ , Ӥ ֱ ָ ևԋֆև Ӥ ֤֟ ן׾׬ֵ ֜ ָָ ו֋, ֻ , ֲ ֋Ӆ ָ ֿ-ֲ ׌ , ָָ ו֋ ָ ָ ֟ ֱ ֕ ָ ֮ Ӥ, ֙ Ӥָ ָ ָ ִ ֮ ִ ֮֮ ֻ


* ״׮Ù , ֲָ ..(־֮֬)..

֚ : ϴ֟ ..(־֮֬).. ָ ֵ ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ֲָ , ..(־֮֬)..֯ ׮֋ ָ ֯ ֤֟ ן׾׬ֵ Ӥ , ֓ ..(־֮֬).. ֯ ו֮֟ ֌׸ ֜ , ֲ ָ ֓ ..(־֮֬)..

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ߴ֟ ֵ : ָ ֣ ָ ָ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ׸ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, * ֲ ׻ ֺ ״ֻ߅..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، جب ٭ وہاں چیکنگ ہوئی تو پولیس کو وہاں دارو ملی۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ֲָ ָ֬ ָ * ׸ ָ ֋օ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ׻ -ִֵ֕ ״ֻ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : پولیس کو وہاں کرتا پائجامہ ملا ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ ֻ֮ ׸ ָ ֋, ָ ױ פ ָ օ ..(־֮֬)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Azmi, please...(Interruptions) Just a minute, Mr. Azmi...(Interruptions) We are discussing...(Interruptions) Please listen to me...(Interruptions)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ׳ֿ֯ ֵ ָ ֮֜ ֯ ֮ ָ ו֋ ׸ ָ ֋օ..(־֮֬).. * ָ ִ, ֲָ ָ֬ ָ, ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ؓ֟ , ֌׸ ؓ֟ ..(־֮֬).. ָ ֌׸ ָ ֓ ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، مجھے اس دیش کی چنتا ہے۔ میں اس ملک میں رہتا ہوں، مجھے اس ملک کی سیکورٹی کی چنتا ہے ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ اگر اس ملک کی سیکورٹی پر چرچا نہیں ہوگی تو ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

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* Expunged as ordered by the Chair.


ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ׸ ׮־ ו֋, ױ ֻ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ֲ ֵ , ֓ ..(־֮֬).. ֮ ָ ֓ ֮ ֓ ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : میں جب سے اس بحث میں آیا ہوں، یہ پہلی چرچا نہیں ہے۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ ہر سیشن میں اس پر چرچا ہوتی ہے۔ ہر سیشن میں چرچا ہوتی ہے۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ׸ ׮־ ו֋, ױ ֓ ֻ߅ ..(־֮֬)..׸ ׮־ ו֋..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، حقیقت سننی چاہئے۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ׸ ׮ֻ֮ ׸, ױ ֻ߅..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ֟ ֯ , ָ™ ״׮Ù þֵ , ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، میں وہ بات آپ سے کہہ رہا ہوں، جو مجھے مہاراشٹر کے ہوم منسٹر نے خود کہا ہے، میں وہ بات کہہ رہا ہوں ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Azmi, please. ...(Interruptions)

ִ ̴֕ : ߆ևԕ ..(־֮֬).. ֮ ֕ ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : جو مجھے ڈی۔آئی۔جی۔نے کہا ہے۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ میں کوئی اپنی مرضی سے نہیں کہہ رہا ہوں۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ™ ״׮Ù ..(־֮֬)..ָ™ ״׮Ù ׻֋ כ ..(־֮֬)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Azmi, we are discussing...(Interruptions).. Please listen. ...(Interruptions)

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ֵ֤ ָ ..(־֮֬).. , ָ ֈ Ӥ ֓և ָ ֓ ֤ ֋, ֤֟ ֟ օ ..(־֮֬)..ָ, ֤ , ֯ ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، میں یہ کہنا چاہتا ہوں کہ کوئی فائدہ نہیں اس طرح کی۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ میں دکھی ہوں، اگر اس ہاؤس کے اندر سچائی پر چرچا نہیں ہوگی تو یاد رکہئے، کبھی بھی آتنک واد ختم نہیں ہو سکتا۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔سر، میں ایک دکھی آدمی ہوں، میں آپ سے کہنا چاہتا ہوں کہ ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ߴ֟ Ӥ ָ : ָ ? ..(־֮֬).. ָ™ ״׮Ù ..(־֮֬).. ֲ ֕ ֲָ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֬ : ״֮֙ ߕ̅ Ӥ ֯ ך..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ן ִ ֟

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، میں کسی ذات یا دھرم کی بات نہیں کر رہا ہوں۔

SHRI MANOHAR JOSHI: Sir, I am on a point of order ...(Interruptions)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Let me listen to his point of order, please.

֮ : ևә ..(־֮֬)..

߸ י : ֯ ֟ ֈ , ָ ֟ ֋..(־֮֬).. , ֮ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI MANOHAR JOSHI: The hon. Member is misguiding the House...(Interruptions) He is misguiding the House because he is talking about the RSS and the Bajrang Dal without his personal knowledge and proof. Therefore, the whole House may be misguided, and it is necessary that such a thing be not allowed in the House...(Interruptions)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Azmi, please listen to me. The point is, we are discussing the bomb blasts. In the course of the discussion, you cannot make such a blanket remark against any organisation, whether it is the RSS or it is the Bajrang Dal or it is any other organisation. Do not make such a blanket allegation against an organisation. So, if that is mentioned like that, that is expunged. ...(Interruptions)...

(Continued by 3P)

TDB-MP/3P/4.50

SHRI ABU ASIM AZMI: Sir, when we are condemning...(Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): The point is...(Interruptions)... Mr. Azmi, in the morning, ...(Interruptions)... Earlier...(Interruptions)...

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ֯ ....(־֮֬)... Sir, I will prove it. I challenge that I will prove everything. ...(Interruptions)...

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، میں آپ کو ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

SHRI MANOHAR JOSHI: Sir, you have given your ruling. ...(Interruptions)... The hon. Member cannot challenge your ruling. ...(Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mrs. Brinda, you are not supposed to do it. ...(Interruptions)... You know the rules. ...(Interruptions)... No, no; you cannot do that. ...(Interruptions)... So what? ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Azmi, you listen to me. Earlier also. ...(Interruptions)...

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ։ ִֵ ֲָ ...(־֮֬)...

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، میں ہاؤس کا سمۓ خراب نہیں ہونے دینا چاہتا ہوں۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֬ : ̸ ׮֋... Number one, this is a very important discussion, and in this discussion, we should show that we are united and one. Our concern should be against the blasts and those individuals. You should speak against those individuals. The Government is taking care of that. If we show such a divided House here on such an important issue which is concerned with the unity of our country, I am sorry to say that we are not showing good example to the nation. ...(Interruptions)... Remember, the nation is watching us. See, in the morning, while I was on the Chair, someone from this side, mentioned about terrorism and connected it with a community. Immediately, I expunged it. The same thing, I am doing now. I am not showing any partiality. So, you cannot mention name of any organisation. The Government is enquiring into it. Nobody has come up with any evidence that a particular organisation is doing it. ...(Interruptions)... So, that is expunged.

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ָ ײֻ ֓և ֻ֮֟ ....(־֮֬)...

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر،میں اس بارے میں بہت دکھی ہوں۔ میں بالکل سچائی بتلانا چاہتا ہوں کہ اس کی صحیح ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Don't try to divert the issue. ...(Interruptions)... You give positive contribution. ...(Interruptions)... Give your contribution.

ִ ̴֕ : և, ..., ׿־ , ִ֕־֤ ֙, ו֮֟ , ֲ ֙ ׻י ָ ׾ָ֓ ֱ ׻ וִָ ׻֋ ֻ ָ ׻ ָ™ , 㴲և 㴲և , ֲ ֲ ״ֻ ָ և , ֯ ߮ פ֟ ֲ ֮ ֻ օ ָ ָ ִ֕ ֤ ֻ ֛, ־ ֣ ֲ ֮ ֻ օ

ֳ֯ן ߚ߮

ָ ָ ֯ ߕ ָ ̸֕ ֻ, ֲ ֵ , ֻ ։ , ָ ӓ : ָ ։ כ ׻ֵ , ֵ֤ כ ? ֱ ֟ , خ֤ , , ָ ֤ ֲָ , ֯ ֕ ֛, ֲ ֯ ֟ , ָ ָ ֯ ֱ ָ ֟ , ׮֟ ֯ ָ ֟ , ֕ օ ׻֋ ףֵ, ֟ -

"֮ ָ ,

̴߮ ֻ֟ , ׿ ?"

ָ, ׻֋ ׻֋ 1992-93 ִ-Ù ...(־֮֬)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude.

ִ ̴֕ : ִ-Ù ָ օ 敛 , ָָ ֵ ֻ 㴲և ִ-Ù ִ ֻ ߔ օ ֮֕ן օ ֤֮֮ ֤ ֮֕ן օ ֮֕ן , , , , ֮֟ ֱ ָָ 㴲և 녠 , ֻ, ֻ ֻ פ ֵ ֵ ִ 㴲և Ù 敛 ָ, ֈә ֲ, ֙ ״׮Ù , ֣ , ֌ ִ Ù ֌ֵָ , ֯ և , ֲ ֯ ו֋ ו֋ ֈә ׻ֵ ָև פ ֮ ֵ , ֮ ֵ , ָ ֲ ִ , - ꅠ ӡ - ִ, ֟ և , ֌ֵָ ָ ֆꅠ ִ ָָ ׻ֵ ֵօ ֲ ָ פ ֵ, ֵ ִ և ִ ׸Ù ß֮ օ ֤ ֲ , ߓ ̴߮ ׮ և ևә ״ָֿ , ֌ֵָ ӓ֕ , ֮ ױ׾֙ פ ִ ߅ , ׮ֵ ? : ֓ , ֮ : ֓ ָ ִ ָ , ֋, ָ ֻ֮ ̺ ָ ֮ ֲ, , ֲ ָ ևә ״ָֿ פ , ָ ֟ ֻֆ, ֕ ױ׾֙ ֕ , ָ ևә ״ָֿ ֮ ֓ ִ ֮ , ָ ָ ָ ֮ ֮ օ (3 / ָ ֿ:)

ASC-KGG/4.55/3Q

ִ ̴֕ (֟) : ͕֟ ֻ֟ ֻ ֛ օ ֯ ָ ֵ֤֤ ֯ ָ ֵօ ֻ ֤ ߴ ߴ כÓ֕ օ ֻ֟ ֮֟ ִ Ù ? ֕ 㴲և ׿־ ߻ օ ..(ִֵ ә).. ֟ ִֿ ..(־֮֬).. ׻ ֵ ? ָ ߻ ֕ ֻ ߔ օ ...(־֮֬)..

 

 

 

 



֮ : ָ, ֟ ֟ ...(־֮֬).

ֳ֯ן : כև ..(־֮֬)...

ִ ̴֕ : ׿־ ..(־֮֬)..ֲ ӕֵ ֵ օ ..(־֮֬).. ӕֵ ֮ ׿ֿ ߅ ...(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : یہ شیو سینا کے لوگ ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ جب سنجے دت پکڑا گیا تھا ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔مجھہ سے اور سنجے دت سے پچھوانے کی کوشش کی۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ִ , ֯ ֟ ׸ ....(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ӕֵ ָ , ֻ ߅ ...(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سنجے دت قصوروار ہے یا نہیں ہے، یہ فیصلہ کورٹ کرے گی۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ׸

ִ ̴֕ : ָ ...(־֮֬)..֮ ׻֋ ׿ֿ ....(־֮֬)...

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : ایک طرف یہ ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ چھڑانے کے لۓ کوشش کرتے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

SHRI MANOHAR JOSHI: This is absolutely wrong. (Interruptions)

ִ ̴֕ : ָ ָ ...(־֮֬). ׻ֵ ָ ..(־֮֬)....

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : دوسری طرف ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ دیکھہ لیا تو ہم ماریں گے ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN : Please conclude. (Interruptions) ֯ ו֋ ֯ ו֋..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ӛ֤ ֻօ ...(־֮֬)....

 

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN : Next, Now, Mr. Thirunavukkarasar. You speak only for two minutes, please. (Interruptions)

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ״׮Ù , ׮ן֮ Ϭ֮ ִ ߻ ָ ֯ פ ...(־֮֬)...

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، ہوم منسٹر صاحب بیٹھے ہیں، میں ان سے کہنا چاہوں گا کہ نتن پردھان نام کے لۓ ایک وکیل نے سارے مقدمے واپس کر دئے ہیں کہ ہم مقدمہ نہیں دیکھیں گے۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

֣ . : ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)...

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ָ, ו֋, ֈ ...(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، یہ ہو کیا رہا ہے۔ سر، سن لیجئے، میں پورے ہاؤس سے کہنا چاہتا ہوں ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֲ כ...(־֮֬).. ߕ, ...(־֮֬).. ֯ և ߕ և ..(־֮֬).. Mr. Thirunavukkarasar.

ִ ̴֕ : ״֮֙ ָ ...(־֮֬).. ִ Ù ֋ ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : ایک منٹ سر، ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ بم بلاسٹ ہوا تھا اور لوگ پکڑے گئے تھے ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You cannot use this platform for all those things. (Interruptions) ߕօ ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ûִ , ֮ ִ ֟ օ ִ ׻ פօ ֓ ..(ִֵ ә)..֮ ֮ כ֙ ׻, ֕ ׻ , ֻ֟ ־ օ ׻ ֲ֤ß ִ ׻ פ ...(־֮֬) և ֻ ... (־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : یہ کیا تھا کہ ایک کنڑیکٹر جو نان۔مسلم ہیں، اس نے بس میں بم رکھتے ہوئے دیکھا تھا۔ اس کا نام لکھہ دیا۔ کنڑیکٹر نے کہا کہ میں سچا ہندو ہوں۔ ۔۔۔۔(وقت کی گھنٹی)۔۔۔۔ اس نے اپنے ڈیپارٹمنٹ کو لیٹر لکھا، جج کو لیٹر لکھا کہ صاحب، میں غلط گواہی نہیں کروں گا۔ پولیس نے زبردستی میرا نام لکھہ دیا ہے ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ وہ لوگ ڈھائی سال جیل میں رہے۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ߕօ

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ֵָ ֺ ו֋ ֕ כ ..(ִֵ ә). ָ ֯ ֵָ ...(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، میں کہنا چاہتا ہوں کہ انکوائری ضرور کیجئے اور اس کا علاج پکڑئے۔ ۔۔۔)وقت کی گھنٹی(۔۔۔۔ اگر آپ انکوائری نہیں کریں گے تو۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ևә ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ...(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، میں یہ کہنا چاہتا ہوں کہ ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : , ֋, ߕօ ...(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ ֯ ִ֓ Ù ָ ...(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : اگر آپ سچ مچ بلاسٹ کے اوپر ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ִ ̴֕ , ֮֯ , פօ ߕօ ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ׻֋ ...(־֮֬).ָ, ։? ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، اس لئے میں کہنا چاہتا ہوں ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔ سر، میں بیٹھہ جاؤں ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ߕ, ߕ, ..(־֮֬).. և ...(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ״֮֙ ו֋ ..(־֮֬)..

شری ابو عاصم اعظمی : سر، بس مجھے دو منٹ دے دیجئے ۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ־֮֋ , ֮֯ ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ֮ ףֵ ִֻ֮ , ָ ִ֟ ָ ֲָ և ָ ß֮ ֤ ֋օ... (־֮֬).. ִֻ֮, ֠ և ֟ 򲻴 ..(־֮֬).. ָ, ֲ ֮ ֙ և ָ , ֟ 㴲և ֻ , ׻ , ׻ ֲ ֕ ֲ ֲ ? ֕-֕ , ן׾׬ֵ ֟ Ӆ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ִ֯ ׸ ...(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ָ, ֯ ֟ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֮ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ' ֻ , ߻, ֲ, ֮ ֱ, ֻ֟ ֮֟ ָ ׻ßӅ , ûִ, -և ָ , ֲ ֣ ֻ֟ ֻ֟ ßӅ' և, ֮ , և ߕ , և , ֲ ֙ և ָ , Ӥ ן׾׬ֵ , ֮֕ן , ֲ ״ֻ ֲֻ ָ ׮ֵ ֲ , ֮ ֤ ֣ 㴲և ֻ ָ֤ ....(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ױ ֻ ֋? ..(־֮֬)..

ִ ̴֕ : ֠ ...(־֮֬) 㴲և ֋, ! 㴲և , ִֻօ ֮ ָ ߕ ׸ꌙ , ֯ ֲ ֣ ֲֻ օ ...(־֮֬)..ָ, ֟ ָ օ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ?

ִ ̴֕ : ָ ־֮ ֛ , ֓֟ ָ ֵ, ֮֮ ״ֻ ֚ ִ ֛  ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֯ , ׻֋, ֺ ״ֻօ

ִ ̴֕ : ֲ ֓ ָ ׮ֻ օ ֤ ־ compensation ״ֻ , compensation פ־ֵ ֋, ָ߲ ֛ ֮ , ֮֯ פ, ׻֋ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

(3R/NB ָ)


 

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