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SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ (CONTD.): This is a wholesome principle. The Constitution empowers Parliament. When Parliament is empowered, it gives its verdict and we should respect the verdict of Parliament. Therefore, all these fallacious arguments, they are creating a whip, still, on this issue nothing unusual has happened. All the Leaders of Opposition are exempted under this very law. All the Chief Whips are enjoying this facility under this very law. All Commissions of national importance have been exempted under this law. But when it came to certain other party leaders, they are sore about it. Either say tomorrow that we won't accept these perks and other things, we will work for free. But all these have been accepted. And, now, there is no other procedure by which you can exempt. We have come to Parliament. Parliament has debated it once, and the hon. President of India has raised these points. I have elaborately explained and I am with within my rights, as a Minister, to say that retrospective legislation is valid. It has been done and upheld by the court; and Parliament has the powers to do it. But, one thing I would like to say before I conclude is that various important issues have been raised. After the 42nd and 44th amendments, new points have been raised. And, now, comes to the fore the issue of involving a generic and comprehensive criteria as just, fair and reasonable which can be applied across the States and Union Territories in a clear and transparent manner. This is a challenging job and it can be undertaken only if all the parties join us. On probity, there should be no partisan attitude; on integrity, there should be no partisan attitude; on conflict of interest, there should be no partisan attitude; and, this Government, particularly, is very keen to make any improvement if it is possible within the constitutional limits. We will be very willing to ask this House to constitute a Committee and get going immediately after this Bill is passed. My friend, Mr. Yechury, suggested -- I have read his article but you must have also read A.G. Noorani's article, and, that, perhaps, Mr. Arun must have missed. You must read what comes in the media. It is not one-way traffic. So, therefore, if you are really sincere on promoting probity in public life, this is the time and we should be grateful to the hon. President to have drawn our attention to this issue. After this Bill is passed, the Government will be ready to constitute a Committee of this House, to constitute a Committee of both Houses to go threadbare with the problem and come with a solution. Sir, I, once again, thank all the hon. Members and you, Mr. Deputy Chairman, for giving me this opportunity. Thank you. (Ends)

 

 

 

 

 

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PK/3S/6.00

THE PARLIAMENT (PREVENTION OF

DISQUALIFICATION) AMENDMENT BILL, 2006 - (CONTD.)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The question is:

"That the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Amendment

Bill, 2006, as passed by the Houses of Parliament and returned by the President under the proviso to article 111 of the Constitution, be taken into consideration."

 

The motion was adopted.

 

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: We shall now take up clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill. Insertion of new clause 1-A: there is one amendment for insertion of new clause 1A no. 3, by Shrimati Sushma Swaraj and Shri S.S. Ahluwalia. Do you want to move the amendment?

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ (MADHYA PRADESH): Sir, I move:

NEW CLAUSE 1-A

3.                 That at page 1, after clause 1, the following new clause be inserted, namely:-

'1A. In section 2 of the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959 (hereinafter referred to as principal Act) after clause (a), the following clause shall be inserted namely:

 

(aa) "Office of profit" means any office under the Central Government or the State Government the holder of which may, by virtue of the office, have the occasion of exercising executive, financial and ancillary powers, notwithstanding the fact that the holder of such an office is either drawing no allowance or an allowance which does not exceed the daily allowance admissible to a Member of Parliament or a Member of the State Legislature."

 

The question was proposed.

 

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ֳ֯ן , , ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן: , ֯ ...(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ...(־֮֬)

ָ֮ ״: ִ ֟ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ָ ֵ ...(־֮֬) ֵ ...(־֮֬)

ָ֮ ״: ֮֯ ֻ ...(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ֳ֯ן , ײֻ Ӥ ָ ֙ ™ פ , ׻֋ ֮ ֟ ֻ ӿ֮ ״֟ ֮ , ׻ֵ ײֻ Ӥ ß

ֳ֯ן , ײֻ ָ ֢ ִ֯ӣ ֓ ֮ ָ ֕ ו̤ , õ ֤-ֿ ֕ פօ ֻ ֟ ׸ ָ ֮ ... 3T/MCM ָ ֿ:

MCM-PB/3T/6-05

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ (֟) : 㴲և ִ ׾ñ ׾ֵ ָ ֓ ֮ ׾ֵ ׻ֵ, ֵ֟ ֟ .....(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ָ ׻֋......(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֻ ָ ......(־֮֬) ָ ػ ׻֋ ֮ ִ þָ օ.....(־֮֬) ֳ ӿ֮ ָ ߅ ӿ֮ ָ ֟։, ֤ߵ ֵ ӡ ֟ ֕ ײֻ ׻ֵ ֋ ™ן Ӥ , ׻֋ ָ ֕ ֓ ֋ ֲ ֮ ֮ ָ ™ן ָ ֯עֵ ׸ ײֻ ֵ ָ ָ......(־֮֬)

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, it is part of the record. I never said in the House that it was because of the message. I said, "in the morning, we resolved in an informal discussion and to that decision, she was a party, and based on that, the Chair gave a ruling. We liked to honour the ruling, and nothing beyond that."

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕֠ : ֳ֯ן , .....(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ׻֋ օ

ִ׮֟ ֤õ : ֯օ......(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָָ ײֻ ֟ ӿ֮ , ׻֋ ָ ײֻ ٴ֟ ϤԮ ָ ָ ™ן ִ֮ ֟ ӿ֮ ָ ִָ ߟִָ ֟ ײֻ ִ֣Ԯ ׾֋ ֣ ׾֋

֋״ݵ ױ׮ֿ֮ ײֻ ָ ֮֮ ֤ ִִ ߕ ִ֮֬ , .....(־֮֬)

ߟִָ : , ״֮֙ ï™ ׾֋ ֟ ׾֋ ֮ ֋״ݵ ױ׮ֿ֮ ߅ ָ ׾֋

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֟ ߟִָ ֮ ֟ ״׮Ù ָ ֮ꅠ ֻ ֚ ֠ ֠ ?

֋״ݵ ױ׮ֿ֮.....(־֮֬) ָ, ӿ֮ ד֟ ֟ , ӿ֮ פ ֠ ֋״ݵ ױ׮ֿ֮ ױ ױ ײֻ ֵ ? ײֻ ׻֋ ֵ ֵ ָָ ֕ ֻ֮ , ָָ פ֮ ™ן , ָָ ә և ........(־֮֬) ֳ֯ן , ָָ ™ן ֮֟ ָ ײֻ , Ӿ׮ ֬֟֠ ßָ , ָ ֲ֕ , ֤ ֮ ꅠ ֯ ִ֮ ס 滵 ֕ , ׾ִ֮ϟ ֕ , Ӿ׮ ֵԤֆ ֕ ......(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ?.....(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֳ֯ן , ӿ֮ ָ-ָ , ӿ֮ ױ׮ֿ֮ ֜ ֮ 慠 ӿ֮ , ױ ױ ױ׮ֿ֮ ִ :

" "Office of profit" means any office under the Central Government or the State Government, the holder of which may, by virtue of the office, have the occasion of exercising executive, financial and ancillary powers, notwithstanding the fact that the holder of such an office is either drawing no allowance or an allowance which does not exceed the daily allowance admissible to a Member of Parliament or a Member of the State Legislature."

֤ ӿ֮ ï׌׾֙ ֱֻ ֜ ִֵ ־ ָօ ߟִָ ִ녠 (3U ָ ֿ:)

SKC-GS/3U/6.10

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ (CONTD.): "The Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959 shall cease to have effect after one year from the commencement of this Act. The Central Government shall, within one year from the commencement of this Act, enact a comprehensive legislation based on criteria which are just, fair and reasonable, that get applied across all States and Union Territories in a clear and transparent manner."

ӿ֮ - Ù֯׌׾֙ ֱֻ , , ָ ߟִָ ֮ ־ ן ֓ , ָ ״׮Ù ӿ , ֵ֤ , ָָ ָ ֮ , ֵ, ָ ֯ ֮ ֓ , ׸, ֟ ֻ ־֮ ֮֯ , ־֮ ֯ ֟ և ָ ..

ֳ֯ן : , ו֋

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : , ן ִ , ֳ ֤ ֓ ֣ ׮־ ײֻ ׸ ֋, ֤ ܵ ֻ , ָ ָ ܵ ֻ , ֕ ײֻ ָ כ׾֮֕ ֮ ֯ ן ו֋, ֯ ײֻ ֟ ׻֋, ָ ֻ֮ , ֻ և ..(־֮֬).. þֵ ֻ ֳ ֤ ֟ ֓և ָ ֯ ֓ ֵ, ֯ ֮ ֟ ׻֋ ֯ ׮־ , ֵָ֙ ־ֻ ֮ ..(־֮֬).. ָ, ײֻ ָ כ׾֮֕ ֯ ߻ ײֻ Ӥ ו֮ ֤ , ֵ ֯ ֟ ֵ ֤ ײֻ ׸ , ׮־ ֣ ӿ֮ ֟ , ֯ ߟִָ ״׮Ù , , ָ -Definition of Office of Profit ִ ӿ֮ פ , ָ ָ ֮ ֓ , Ϥٿ֟ ֮ ֟ ִ֯

(ִ֯)

ߟִָ : ָ, ֕֟ ֮ ״ֻ֮ ֮ , ֯ ֮ ו֋օ ..(־֮֬).. ֮֯ פ, ֯ ? ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : , ״׮Ù ֮ ..(־֮֬).. ָ ֮ և , ָ ״׮Ù ׸և ..(־֮֬)..

ߟִָ : þָ ? ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : כֻ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: There is no provision to justify...(interruptions)...

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ֯ provoke , ױ , no provision ..(־֮֬)..

I know. I know...(interruptions)... ִ ïױ , right to reply ..(־֮֬)..

ߟִָ : ָ, ֯ ..(־֮֬)..

. ֮ : ָ, ߻ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ו֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ߟִָ : ״֮֙ ֮ ..(־֮֬).. ָ, և ֨ן ׸֕ ֻ֮ , ָ ִ ׻ֵ ֵ ֵ ֯ ֯ ׸օ ִ֟ ָ ׬ָ ֮֟ ֟ ֮֯ ֮֯ פ () ִ ֣ ֮֯ י ָ , ֵ ֵ , ֕ Ӥ פ ֵ , ־֕ ֵ ֵ, ֲ ֵ , Ӥ ֮֯ ױ֮ ָ , ױ׮ֿ֮ ӳ߸ ֮, ֵ֮ ߅ ָ ֮֮ ..(־֮֬)..

00 ׻ֵ : ײֻ . ..(־֮֬)..

ߟִָ : ֯ ׮֋ ..(־֮֬).. ׮֋, ׮֋, ׮֋ ..(־֮֬).. ֯ ׮֋ ֯ -, - ֟ ׸ ָ ֯ ־ֻ ׯ֔ ָ ײֻ ֵ ֮֯ ֈ , ֕ ֯ כ׾֮֕ ? Ӥ ֯ ֮֯ פ֟ ? ..(ִֵ ә).. ֯ ָ ֟ և ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : , ֯ ִ֯ ׸ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI SITARAM YECHURY: As for the fourth amendment, I am willing to go by the assurance of the hon. Minister. If you constitute a committee, it would be a joint committee of both the Houses, I believe. And then, consult the Presiding Officer...(interruption)... Consult the Presiding Officer and please announce the Committee. That will be my submission.

0 ֮ : ֻ֟ ..(־֮֬).. ײֻ , ֤ ֲָ ֟ ..(־֮֬).. This is something most derogatory ֯ ײֻ ֯ ™ן ִ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֯ ӳ߸ , ֤ ִ ӳ߸ ..(־֮֬)..֮֯ ӳ߸ ׾ָ֓ ..(־֮֬).. (3W ָ )

SC-HK/3W/6.15

ߟִָ : ׯ֔ ָ ֈ ? ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ ™ן ָ ӳ߸ օ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: In Karnataka, there was a legislation. ..(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Karnataka has nothing to do with it. ..(Interruptions)..

ߟִָ : ׯ֔ ָ ֮֯ ֈ օ..(־֮֬).. ֮֯ ׾ָ օ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֲ ӳ߸ ..(־֮֬)..™ן ֟ ָ ӳ߸ , ֤

ֳ֯ן :ָ ֮ ? ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ ™ן Ӥ ָ ӳ߸ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ָ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, there is a Bill without definition. ..(Interruptions)..

ߴ֟ Ӥ ָ : ֤ ֛ ֵ ..(־֮֬)..

0 ֮ : ִ ™ן , ָ ӳ߸ ׾ָ֓ ֤ ֮ օ..(־֮֬).. ֮֯ ֮߮ ֯ ..(־֮֬).. ֟ ?

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Actually, it is an amendment to the Bill. ..(Interruptions)..

ָ : ָ, ִ ֛ ٴ ߻ ֮- ִ֣Ԯ , ׾ָ ֻ ։ ֙ ָ Ϥ פ Ù ߅ ׻֋ ָ , ױ ָ ֛ և 0 , Ethics ָ ׾־֤ , ָ ß פ֋ - ֮֓֯ פ֟ - ߔ ֻ֮ ׻֋ ָ ..(־֮֬)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The Law Minister wants to reply.

SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Sir, I would like to briefly respond to what hon. Member, Shrimati Sushma Swaraj, has said. I think, she has not made a serious request for amendment because I have already explained that this disqualification relates to articles 102 and 191 of the Constitution. So, this is only a Prevention of Disqualification Act. Any definition which will have to devise or find out, essentially, will have to take into consideration constitutional amendment. So, this amendment is wholly unnecessary amendment moved to the Bill.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay; that is the reply.

I shall now put amendment (No. 3) moved by Shrimati Sushma Swaraj to vote.

Amendment (No.3) was negatived.

Clause 1 was added to the Bill.

 

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now, we shall take up Clause 2 for consideration. There are two amendments -- (No. 1) by Shri Dinesh Trivedi and Shri Mukul Roy and (No.4) by Shrimati Sushma Swaraj and Shri S.S. Ahluwalia.

Clause 2 - Amendment of Section 3

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, I move:

1. That at pages 2, lines 4 to 6 be deleted.

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: Sir, I move:

(4) That at page 2, lines 2-3, the words "and shall be deemed to have been inserted with effect from the 4th day of April, 1959" be deleted.

 

The questions were proposed.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I shall first put the amendment (No.1) moved by Shri Dinesh Trivedi to vote. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, before you do that, please give me one minute to speak. I have a right to speak.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay. ״֮֙ ֋օ ו֋

פ ס־ : ֮ ָ ߛ , ׸ֻ כ ֮ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ߻ ֟ և, ׻֋ օ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

פ ס־ : ֯ ף֌ ֟ ..(־֮֬).. This is what is unethical.

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ָ ו֋

פ ס־ : ָ ֯ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ָ ֟ ֋ ..(־֮֬)..

פ ס־ : Ӭ ֮ ׻֋ ߅ Sir, I am mentioning the table where you have given the names of the Offices of profit.

ֳ֯ן : ל ֯ , ָ ׻֋..(־֮֬)..ֻ ֵօ..(־֮֬)..

פ ס־ : ו ..(־֮֬)..֜ , ו

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ֮֯ פ , ..(־֮֬)..

פ ס־ : ֮ פ ָ I have given the amendment that at pages 2, lines 4 to 6 be deleted. This should be deleted and the reason why it should be deleted is, on what basis you have picked up 55 and odd names. Is it only because, which is given in objective clause? I compliment the Law Minister that he was very honest and transparent when he says that 'if I don't bring these offices, then 40 or 45 MPs -- last time I mentioned about Ali Baba -- will be disqualified including Shri Vijay Kumar Malhotra.' If they get disqualified, which they are certain to get disqualified, then there is going to be election and the money will be spent on all those elections.

(Contd. by 3x/KSK)

 

KSK/MP/6.20/3X

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI (CONTD): Sir, then why do we have an election at all in this democracy? Why do we have Constitution in this democracy?... (Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please, sit down...(Interruptions).

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: This is against article 14 of the Constitution...(Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You wanted deletion and you have already explained it. You have already spoken....(Interruptions).

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, I am giving reasons.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You have already made your point in your intervention...(Interruptions).

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: I must cite the article. Shri Jethmalaniji is here and I picked up from his last speech that it violates article 14 of the Constitution. This is highly discriminatory in nature. Why? I still want to know the reason that why only these offices. It violates article 14 of the Constitution.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You have made your point.

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, if you are going to pass this....(Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY CHIARMAN: No, you have made your point.

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: This is going against the spirit and letter of the Constitution.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I shall now put Amendment No. 1 moved by Shri Dinesh Trivedi to vote.

The motion was negatived.

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, I want a division. It violates article 14. I will need it in the Supreme Court; otherwise, they will say that it was unanimously passed...(Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay, lobbies to be cleared.

(followed by 3y)

GSP/6.25/3y

The House Divided.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Subject to correction.

Noes - 97

Ayes - 53

(Here enter the Division Lists for Ayes and Noes

arranged in alphabetical order)

 

Amendment (No.1) was negatived.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I shall now put Amendment No. 4 moved by Shrimati Sushma Swaraj to vote.

Amendment (No.4) was negatived.

Clause 2 was added to the Bill.

CLAUSE 3 : Insertion of New Table.


MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: In Clause 3, there are two amendments. Amendment No.2 by Shri Dinesh Trivedi and Shri Mukul Roy, and, Amendment No. 5 by Shrimati Sushma Swaraj and Shri S.S. Ahluwalia.

SHRI DINESH TRIVEDI: Sir, I move:

2. That at pages 2-4, Clause 3 be deleted

 

 

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: Sir, I move:

That at page 2, line 15, the words "and shall be deemed to have been inserted with effect from the 4th day of April, 1959" be deleted.

The questions were proposed.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I shall now put amendment (No.2) moved by Shri Dinesh Trivedi to vote.

Amendment (No. 2) was negatived.

 

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I shall now put amendment (No.5) moved by Shrimati Sushma Swaraj to vote.

Amendment (No. 5) was negatived.

Clause 3 was added to the Bill.

CLAUSE 4: Special provisions as to validations and other matters.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: In Clause 4, there is one Amendment (No.6) by Shrimati Sushma Swaraj.

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: Sir, I move.

That at page 4, for clause 4, the following clause be substituted, namely:-

"4.(1) Notwithstanding anything contained in any other law, if at the time of commencement of this Act, any petition or reference is pending before any court or other authority in respect of any of the office mentioned in section 3, that office shall not be deemed to have been exempted from disqualification under this Act till such time the petition or the reference is disposed of in its favour.

Provided that every petition or reference pending before any court or other authority for any office under section 3 shall be disposed of within sixty days of its filling."

2. The Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959 shall cease to have effect after one year from the commencement of this Act.

3. The Central Government shall within one year from the commencement of this Act, enact a comprehensive legislation based on criteria which are just, fair and reasonable that can be applied across all States and Union Territories in a clear and transparent manner."

The question was proposed

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I shall now put amendment no. 6 moved by Shrimati Sushma Swaraj to vote.

Amendment (No.6) was negatived.

Clause 4 was added to the Bill.

Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the Title were added to the Bill.

 

SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Sir, I move:

That the Bill, as passed by the Houses of Parliament, be passed again.

The question was proposed

(Followed by sk-3z)

SK/3z/6.30

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The question is that the Bill, as passed by the Houses of Parliament be passed again.

The House divided

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Subject to correction

Ayes : 98

Noes : 49

 

(Here enter the Division Lists for Ayes and Noes

arranged in alphabetical order)

The motion was adopted.

(Ends)

(MR. CHAIRMAN IN THE CHAIR)

 

 

 


STATEMENT RE. THE SITUATION IN LEBANON AND EVACUATION OF INDIAN NATIONALS

 

THE PRIME MINISTER (DR. MANMOHAN SINGH): Hon. Members are aware of the current situation in Lebanon. Taking into account the concern that Members may have on this score, I rise to apprise the House of the current situation and our responses to the evolving situation, especially the efforts made by us to aid and assist Indian nationals who have become victims of the escalating crisis in Lebanon.

Sir, West Asia is our extended neighbourhood and tensions in that region affect our security and our vital interests. We are seriously concerned about the escalation of the conflict between Israel and the Hezbollah extending across the Lebanon-lsrael border. These developments have inflamed an already tense and delicate situation in the region.

On July 12, India had condemned the abduction of two Israeli soldiers by the Hezbollah cadres and called for their immediate release. Simultaneously, we had condemned in the strongest possible terms the excessive and disproportionate military retaliation by Israel. We had particularly expressed concern that the actions of the Israeli Defence Forces had resulted in the killing and suffering of innocent civilians, including women and children, that is likely to exacerbate an already tense situation. We also condemn the attacks that led to the deaths of 4 UN Observers in Lebanon.

India had also condemned the wholly unjustified arrest and continuing detention of Ministers of the Palestinian National Authority and members of the Palestinian Legislative Council. There can be no justification whatsoever for taking such action against the duly elected representatives of the Palestinian people.

Sir, the virtual destruction of a country which has been painfully rebuilt after two decades of civil war, can hardly be countenanced by any civilized state. In response to the appeal issued by the Government of Lebanon, I would like to inform the House that the Government of India has decided to contribute Rs. 10 crores to humanitarian and relief efforts to rebuild Lebanon. (Contd. by 4a)

-SK/YSR/6.35/4A

 

DR. MANMOHAN SINGH (CONTD.): In our view, there should be an immediate ceasefire so that the destruction of Lebanon is ended and humanitarian assistance could be provided. All sides must immediately halt the violence and give diplomacy a chance. Diplomacy to succeed should have a long-term solution that involves and addresses the legitimate concerns of all parties in the region, leading to a comprehensive and negotiated solution.

The safety and welfare of Indian nationals who were residents in that country has been our foremost concern. On 17th July, anticipating a further deterioration in the security situation, an advisory was issued to all Indian nationals, particularly those living in Southern Lebanon, to take suitable precautions regarding their personal safety. Consultations were initiated to work out solutions on how to facilitate the return of those of our nationals in Lebanon desirous of doing so. All Indian nationals have been advised to remain in contact with the Embassy of India in Beirut, who has been instructed to render necessary advice and updated information on the evolving situation.

Since Beirut airport remained closed and the land route between Beirut and Damascus was insecure, it was felt that the best way to evacuate Indian nationals was through Beirut port. Four Indian Naval ships -- INS Mumbai, INS Brahmaputra, INS Betwa and INS Shakti -- which were in the Red Sea area, were redirected to Beirut to assist in the evacuation.

The first evacuation effort was undertaken on 21st July 2006. 598 Indian nationals, and as a humanitarian gesture, nationals from Nepal, Lebanon, and Sri Lanka, were evacuated by INS Mumbai from Beirut to Larnaca in Cyprus. From Larnaca, Air India arranged two aircrafts to ferry the evacuated Indians to Mumbai and Chennai.

A second evacuation out of Beirut was undertaken on 24th July. This comprised 887 people, including 784 Indians, 41 from Nepal, 57 from Sri Lanka and 5 Lebanese nationals. All Indian nationals, and nationals from Nepal and Sri Lanka were air-lifted from Larnaca to India and have arrived safely. A third phase of evacuation was completed on 26th July bringing the total number of those evacuated to 1870, including 1687 Indian nationals.

It is our estimate that approximately 12,000 Indian nationals were in Lebanon at the time of the outbreak of hostilities. They are mostly semi-skilled and unskilled workers who were working in farms and factories. Of these, a large number have not indicated their desire to leave Lebanon. Some of them appear to have decided to stay back, others may have been unable to reach Beirut because of the disruption in communications. We have so far received confirmation of the death of one Indian national in an air strike on a glass factory in Bekka valley.

Our Embassy continues to function in Beirut, and is in touch with various organisations and agencies with which Indian nationals were associated. For the time being, our naval vessels will continue to be in the region in case they are required to be used in the service of our nationals. Any further evacuations will be planned taking into account the ground situation in Lebanon.

We also have a contingent of 672 Indian officers and soldiers as part of the UN Peace-keeping Forces in Lebanon (UNIFIL). Our peacekeepers are safe, though currently confined to their barracks.

I would like to place on record appreciation for the efforts of various Ministries, Departments and agencies of Government for the swift and successful manner in which they have responded to the task of helping our fellow citizens in distress. (Ends) (Followed by VKK/4B)

-YSR/VKK-PSV/4b/6.40

SHORT DURATION DISCUSSION ON INCREASING INCIDENTS OF TERRORIST VIOLENCE IN THE COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY IN THE CONTEXT OF RECENT BOMB BLASTS IN MUMBAI -- (Contd.)

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CHAIRMAN: Now, the Short Duration Discussion on the increasing incidents of terrorist violence in the country, particularly in the context of recent bomb blasts in Mumbai. Shri Janeshwar Mishra. (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Sir, we wanted to seek some clarifications. (Interruptions)

ֳ֯ן : ׸ױ֮ ֲ ֣ ֤ ...(־֮֬)... ֤ օ ...(־֮֬)...

ָ֮ ״ : ֮־֤ ֳ֯ן օ ֮

ֳ֯ן : ָ ֻ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)...

ָ֮ ״ (ָ Ϥ): ֮ ֵә - ָ פ , ֮׸ օ ֓ , ֳ֯ן , ֮ 㴲և ֮׸ , ָ™ ׻֠ ߠ ־ã֠ ֮

(ֳ֬ (0 00 ׸֮) ߚ߮ )

֕ ֵ֮ ֟ ֮׸ ָ ֙ֆ ׻֋ ׾ֳ ֟ , ִ ָ֤֟ ׾ֳ ֯ ׌֟ ֕֟ ׻֋ ßֻ ֟ פ ׻֋ ו -־ ֺ , ו֮֟ 0և0ߕ0 , ֟ ִ ָ֤֟ ׯ֔ ָָ ִ֮ օ ֲ ִֵ ӡ Ϭ֮ ӡ ִִ ױ , ִִ ֌׸ Ԯ׻֙ߕ , ׻ '' ßֻ օ - ֟ ֮ ֮֕ן ֳ ׻֋ ֕ ֲ - Ϭ֮ ӡ ӡ ױ ׮֟ , ו ß ٻִֵ ֟ , 20-25 ״֮֙ ׻֋ כ ֟ ֻܵ ӡ ֤ ֟ ӡ ֺ ֯ ֤ 00 ֯ ֲ֤ ֕ ֳ ָ 11 ֕ ֤ ֵ ꅠ פ 15 ״֮֙ ևԅ ֤ ֟ ֳ֯ן , ֯ ֤ ֱ ֕ 15 ״֮֙ ׾ִֻ ֵ ־ ֻ ִ֮ օ ׻֋ և Ϭ֮ ӡ ױ ß ׻֋ ֋ ָ ևԅ ָ פ Ϭ֮ ӡ כ , פ , ֤ ֋ ֳ֯ן , ֕ ֤õ ֤ ֮ פ ֛ ׻֋ ֯, ֤ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֱ ֟ ֻ߮֟ ׸ ֋? ֲ ֮ ָ ָ Ϭ֮ ӡ ӡ ֟ , כ , ֟ ֮ ! ָ ? ӡ ֮֟ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֮֟ , ָ ֟ , ִ֕ ֟ פ ӟִ֕ օ ײ֮ ״׮Ù ֋, -- ָ ָ ֮׸ , 0և0ߕ0 -־ ָ ֓

(4 /000 ָ ֿ:)


`4C/klg/6.45

ָ֮ ״ (֟) : ϓֻ֮ ָ֤֟ ׯ֔ ָָ , ָָ ֮ ו֮֟ ֯ , ֟ ֟ ו֋, ָ ֮ ֺ

ָ ֟, ֳ֬ , ֲ ֓ ָ ֵ, ֮ ֮ ו օ ֻ ֮ օ ו ָָ ָ ֮ ßֻ , ֲ֮ ֻ Ӥߤ ָָ ֮֟ , ָ ֮ ֻ֟ ֟ ָ ֮ ߮-ָ ָ Ӥ ֲ ֛ , 1964 ִ֮ , 1963 ׮־֙ , ߮ כ כ ִ ָ ֻ ֵօ פ ֤ 1966 ִ֮ ֲ ӵ㌟ ׻Ù ֙ , ׯϾי כ֮ ִ ָ 9 ߮ օ ֻ֟, ߻օ ֮ ֛, ֮ ֛օ ӡ , ֮֯ ֯ ָָ ָ ֮ פ, ״֡ , ֯ ָ ֮ ָ ֣ ֮֯ ֟ , , ߴ׸ ֵ , ֛-ָ ֟ , ֱ ֮

ֵ֮ ֻ ָ : ֯ ?

ָ֮ ״ : ꅠ , ָ ״֡ , ָ-ָ , ָ֟ ֮ ִ ֤ ׸ ׬ָ ֣ ֻ־֛ ֻ ֮ ָ , ׾ָ ֮֯ ָ פ , ׻֋ ֯ ֮־֤

ֳ֬ , ״֮֙ ֟ , ә ֮֕ ֮ ִֻ ֵפ ֤ Ӆ ״֡ , ֮, ײָ ֮֬ ִֻ֮ ֛, ןָ ֛, 㴲և ןָ, ֛ ׻ 㴲և Ù ִֻ Ӿ ֵօ ֮ ߲ ô ִֻ֮ ֟ ײָ ֳ ָ ֵ֮ ֵ, ױ -߮ פ ֤ פ ֟ ֯ ׮־ ָ ֲӤ ֮ ֕ ִ-׾ֿ ָ ׮ - ָ- ֻ , ãן ? ײָ , ֮־ , ָ Ϥ , ֮־ ֮־ - ן ? ֮ ߅

ֳ֬ , ӟ ֮ ׮֕ ָ ֮ ״֡ ָ-ָ ֟ ֛ ָ ָ ֵ, ֻ֙ ֮ ֛ ׮ֻ֮ ׻֋ ״֡ ߛ ֟ ׻ֵ ֬և ֻ ߔ ֮֓ ֻ ֙ ֕ , ֯ ֤֤ ֜ և , ֤ և ׻֋ ֯ ֬և օ ֯ ־֙ ׻֋, ֯ ־֙ ֻ , ֋, ֕ ֤ , ֛ ֮ օ ָ , ֲ ֯ ֟ , ֲ ־֮ ֳ֬ , ֯ ־ã , 4/ ָ

AKA-MKS/4D/6:50

ָ֮ ״ (֟) : ֮ ָ ֟ ֮ ֋, ֮ ֟ ֮־և ֋? ֤ ֋ ֤ߵ ֮֟ӡ ֢ ׾֯ , ֓, ֮ ֟ ֮־֮ , ֤֟ ֟ , ו ֤֟ ָ , ֤֟ օ ֤֟ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

00 ׻ֵ : ֵָ֮֕ ֲ ֟ , ֮ ׻֋ ֿԻ ֋ ֟ , ֤֟ , ֟ ֟ ? ..(־֮֬).. ֵ ꅠ ..(־֮֬).. ֲ ֵ

ָ֮ ״ : ׻ֵ ֵָ֮֕ ׿µ ֮ ֮, , ֮ ֺ ֵָ֮֕ ֮ ׾ָ׬ֵ ֮ օ

00 ׻ֵ : ֟ , օ

ָ֮ ״ : , ֟ ֟ ָ ׮ֻ ֟ ꅠ ָָ ֟ ָָ ֮ ָ ׮ֻ ֟ ꅠ ֵָ֮֕ ׾ָ ֙ ֤ ֮ ָ ֟ , ֮ օ

ֵ֮ ֻ ָ : ֮֯ , ֠ ..(־֮֬)..

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please don't interrupt. ...(Interruptions)... Please don't interrupt. ...(Interruptions)... Please don't interrupt. ...(Interruptions)...

ָ֮ ״ : ֳ֬ , ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ִ ֮֟

ֳ֬֠ : ״ , ߕ ו֋

ָ֮ ״ : ֮ ׻ֵ ߴ ֮ , և ꅠ ֕ , ꅠ ׻֋ ֻ ֟ , ߻ ֤ ֳ֯ן ꅠ (ִ֯)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mishraji. Shri Prasanta Chatterjee. ...(Interruptions)...

DR. CHANDAN MITRA (NOMINATED): Sir, it is my submission that it is very late today and we have been sitting here right from the morning. This is a very, very important subject, Sir. ...(Interruptions)... Sir, this is a discussion on something where all Members want to participate. There are a large number of speakers also. People are tired. Look at the Press gallery. It is virtually empty. So, whatever we speak will not be adequately reported. Being a subject of national importance, Sir, I request, if the Members are agreeable, this may kindly be postponed to Monday when everybody will be back and we can have a serious discussion. (Ends)

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, we also support him. ...(Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Anyhow, I have called Mr. Prasanta Chatterjee. Let him start. ...(Interruptions)... It is for the House to decide. ...(Interruptions)...

DR. CHANDAN MITRA: Sir, this is a very important subject. ...(Interruptions)... This is a very important subject. ...(Interruptions)...

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Sir, please defer it till Monday. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI AMAR SINGH: We should not defer it till Monday. ...(Interruptions)... Let us sit till late night and discuss it. Sir, this is a very sensitive matter. We want to discuss it today. Monday is far away. ...(Interruptions)... let us do it today. ...(Interruptions)... Sir, it is a very, very serious matter. ...(Interruptions)... It will send a very wrong message to the nation. ...(Interruptions)... ֮ ֤ ֓ ׻֋ 㴲և ִ-Ù כ֮ פօ ֻ֟ ֟

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Just one second. ...(Interruptions)... Please take your seats.

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ , ָ

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Sushmaji, what do you say?

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, 11:00 ֕ ׻֋ ָ ӡ ֮ ָ

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): We will continue the discussion. ...(Interruptions)... She said, she is ready to sit. ...(Interruptions)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : , ָ 11 ֕ ׻֋ ָ .... (־֮֬)

SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN: Sir, it cannot be concluded today because there are more than 20 Members. ...(Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: But what I would suggest is, let us continue the discussion......(Interruptions)...

DR. CHANDAN MITRA: Sir, the people are ready to sit late. But will it be more effective? ...(Interruptions)... But the question is how effective will it be? (Contd. by TMV/4E)

-MKS-TMV-SCH/4E/6.55

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mitraji, let me make one point from my side. ...(Interruptions)...Mitraji, please. (Interruptions)... Mitraji, please. What I am saying is that in the list there are more than 20 speakers. If we postpone it to Monday, again there will be problem on Monday. So, why don't we continue with it? Let us exhaust some more speakers.

ָ : ָ֟ ֮֓ ׻֋ ֮֕ן ׻֋ ֋

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): Sir, I am willing to sit here up to 12 o'clock or 2 o'clock in the night or the entire night. Secondly, the only request that I would like to make is that those who speak should be here to hear my reply. They can go and come back to hear the reply so that the same points should not be repeated again and again. That is the only request.

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, as far as our party is concerned, it is on Monday. (Interruptions)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): It is only 7 o'clock. Let us sit up to 8 o'clock if the House agrees. (Interruptions)...

׻֟ ֟: ָ, ֯ כ և ֳ ׸ڙ ߅

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: What I am saying is that there are more than 20 speakers. If we don't exhaust some speakers today, on Monday we will be in difficulty. (Interruptions)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: You can call them. Let them speak. (Interruptions)...

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SURESH PACHOURI): Sir, how many speakers are present out of that list?

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: We will sit up to, at least, 8 o'clock. Shri Prasanta Chatterjee.

SHRI PRASANTA CHATTERJEE (WEST BENGAL): Sir, in the Business Advisory Committee meeting our party wanted this very important discussion in the first instance. Now, this discussion has already been started and we all know that the series of bomb blasts in the suburban trains of Mumbai is a vicious terrorist attack. While no organisation has claimed credit for this heinous incidents, the intelligence agencies suggest that it is the handiwork of terrorist organisations like the Lashkar-e-Taiba. Such outfits will have to be isolated and combated from our side. The enemies of India who wanted to disturb the normal life and create social tension are behind the crime. They can't be allowed to succeed. The country must rise as one nation and cry in million voices to halt such activities. Mumbai's resilience and spontaneous display of humanism--people rushed to help the victims--evokes a sense of both pride and confidence that the Indian people will face these challenges firmly. Unfortunately, our learned friend, Mr. Manohar Joshi, who is not here, could not see the picture through the eyes of his party, Shiv Sena. Mr. Joshi has called some places in Mumbai as mini Pakistans. Our party delegation, two important leaders from Rajya Sabha, Shri Sitaram Yechury and Shrimati Brinda Karat, visited Naya Nagar. Some people called that place as mini Pakistan. Near Naya Nagar, there is a place called Mira Road where twin blasts occurred. Within a few minutes all the local residents started rescue operation arranging treatment, water, food, shelter and every thing cutting across religion, caste and creed. We have seen another spectacle of unity and determination of Mumbaikars. (Contd. by VK/4F)

 

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