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YSR/4.00/2T

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH (CONTD.): What is the advantage of getting you elected to power? Any common man can run the Government. Even an uneducated man can run the Government. Then this country need not be run by an eminent economist like Dr. Manmohan Singh. Let us not pass the buck. Let us own the responsibility. Today, in the morning, the Finance Minister has given the reply about the measures which have been initiated. Increase in the prices of food articles has largely been due to shortfall in domestic supplies, related to demand and hardening of international prices. Except crude, which are the international prices that have gone up? As far as my knowledge is concerned, nothing has gone up. Because you cannot control properly, today this Government has been sold out to the cartel of cement manufacturers. I can emphatically say this. Because I know some cement manufacturers. The price prevailing in the market is nowhere relevant to the cost of production of the cement in this country. Why are you not able to control it? Why has the Government become so weak? What I am trying to say is that there is power with the Government to contain the inflation. But it appears that you don't want to do this. You are simply saying export of pulses, sugar, banana, and regular monitoring of prices of essential commodities.. These are all knee-jerk reactions. Nothing, but knee-jerk reactions. It would not pay.

Many speakers have been advising about the future commodity exchanges. Let us introspect. Let us see how it is functioning. Whether the purpose for which it has been created is being served or not. Whether the so-called big players in the market are taking advantage of it to the detriment of the common man's interest. It is high time you had an introspection. Have a review of the functioning of these commodity exchanges. As far as our party is concerned, we want this commodity transaction should be stopped immediately till we have a review of it and we come to a conclusion. If it serves the purpose for which it has been created, then we will allow it. Many thinkers, many leaders, and many political parties are of the opinion that this is one of the reasons. Why can't we have a review of its functioning? When we are unable to speculate the stock market, how can we speculate the essential commodities market? Impossible. So, let us be practical.

The Government has become so insensitive that it has not convened the meeting of the State Chief Ministers. I am not questioning Mrs. Sonia Gandhi convening the meeting of the Congress Chief Ministers. It is a very good measure that she has initiated. But the Prime Minister, the head of the country, should have been more sensitive to the issue. He should have convened the meeting of the Chief Ministers of all the States. I read in the newspapers that prices were not rising in Andhra Pradesh, where till now 4000 people have committed suicides in a span of two years. The Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh has projected a very good picture and hHe has been applauded in the meeting. I read it in the papers.

Our Civil Supplies Minister says that NDA policies are responsible for this price rise. I don't think so. I am rather impartial in my assessment. Their policies were more relevant, and they have taken such decisions that have paid dividends also. I am not saying this just to please them. How long can he indulge in bashing the NDA? Don't search for scapegoats; otherwise, you will become a sacrificial goat.

(Contd. by 2U)

VKK/2U/4.05

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH (CONTD.): And we wish you not to become a sacrificial goat. (Time-bell)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: What can I do? Your party strength has gone down. So, your time also goes down. (Interruptions)

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Sir, I will make some suggestions and I will conclude. I will go by substance.

Sir, inflation has to be contained not by a single Minister of the Cabinet. I fully sympathise with the Finance Minister. It is related to the Ministry of Civil Supplies. It is related to the Agricultural Ministry. And as far as the fiscal policies are concerned, the Finance Ministry is related. That is what I will talk about. Kindly rationalise your tax structure and don't expect that India Inc. makes super profits. Absolutely, there is necessity to make profits, but not as essential when a major chunk of the population is living below the poverty conditions. I will never be happy by seeing the huge profits that are being made by the companies which are published by the newspapers. So, kindly rationalise it.

Now, about the crude prices. You have been advising the State Governments. First, you try to bring down the tax structure of the Governments which are under your party's control and then, you advise the Governments which are being ruled by your allies for which you take the initiative. You try to rationalise your tax structure. Out of Rs.1,28,600 crores, I was told Rs.78,800 crores are being mopped up by the Central Government in petroleum sector and Rs.48,800 crores are the State revenues. Whenever you increase the price, because it is related to the percentages, your revenues are going up ad valorem. So, I request the Minister to try to rationalise the tax system and reduce it for some time and though it is not related, you have to increase the farm production and farm productivity. You have been claiming that farm credit has been increased. Sir, if you go to the village, the picture is entirely different. I heard the Finance Minister say that he will go to the rural banks in the areas to monitor whether they are actually fulfilling the commitments or not. I don't know to what extent these commitments are being fulfilled. Sir, minor and marginal farmers are unable to get credit as contemplated.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: At least, you fulfil your commitment and conclude.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Then, Sir, about the PDS. It is a commitment that has been made by the UPA that the UPA Government will strengthen the Public Distribution System, particularly in the poorest and backward blocks of the country. A major chunk of the population who have been classified as below poverty line has been removed from ration cards list, not by Mr. Chidambaram, but by many States. With the elections coming in Andhra Pradesh, they have issued lakhs of cards, but without ration. Till today, no ration has been given. If I say anything, you will say that I am politicising. Madam Sonia Gandhi has personally visited Andhra Pradesh and Anantapur district. She shed tears over the suicides there and in the span of two years, four thousand people have committed suicides. (Interruptions) Sir, I am not yielding. (Interruptions)

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: Sir, I have been listening to all this ...(interruptions)... for half an hour. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You can put forward those points when you speak. (Interruptions) He has not yielded. (Interruptions)

(Followed by MKS/2w)

-VKK/MKS/PSV/4.10/2W

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: What is the word used?

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: You cannot use the language according to your own tongue. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: You are accusing.....(Interruptions).....

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: With your followers, you can say anything! ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: All right. Mr. Keshava Rao, please sit down. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Don't speak like this. I would remind you that you are in Rajya Sabha, the Upper House. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Keshava Rao, please don't interrupt. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: It is not your Gandhi Bhavan. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Keshava Rao, please don't quote any names; ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Keshava Rao, please sit down.

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: Sir, I am on a point of order.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Sir, I am not yielding.

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: Sir, I am on a point of order.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: What is the point order? ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: Sir, my point of order is that during a discussion......(Interruptions)... Sir, my point of order is: Can a Member, during a discussion, mislead the House on figures? ...(Interruptions)... It is 4000 against 3000. ...(Interruptions)... I am not going to take longer time than is necessary, but I want to tell you that this cannot go on in a discussion like this. All right, once or twice, he can quote.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: What is this, Sir? ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: *

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no; please sit down. ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Keshava Rao, please sit down. ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Keshava Rao, please sit down. ...(Interruptions)... Nothing will go on record. ...(Interruptions)... Nothing will go on record.

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: *

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude, Mr. Ramachandraiah. ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Keshava Rao, please sit down. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Sir, my friend is yet to reconcile that he is in Rajya Sabha. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ramachandraiah, please conclude. ...(Interruptions)... Please conclude.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: *

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Don't record it.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: *

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: Sir, I stand up to know if any of the words has hurt him because I did not mean it. What I said was that is a rosy figure. I said, he quoted figures wrongly. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Rao, the Government is there to take care of it. ...(Interruptions)... You are a parliamentarian. ...(Interruptions)... Please conclude, Mr. Ramchandraiah.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, he can quote names and addresses also.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no; we are not going into all those issues. We are not referring to Andhra Pradesh only. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI AMAR SINGH: Sir, is the discussion going to be confined to Andhra Pradesh only? It is happening in Maharashtra also. What about Maharashtra?

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Sir, I will sit down, but I will not allow this kind of thing. ...(Interruptions)...

 

*Not recorded.

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Will you yield for a minute, Mr. Ramachandraiah?

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: No, I am not yielding, please. I am not yielding. If anybody wants to draw the attention of your Madam, he should adopt some other method, not by interrupting us. ...(Interruptions)... Not by interrupting us here. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr V. Narayanasamy, this is not a debate between two of you. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Sir, I am not yielding. ...(Interruptions)... I am not yielding.

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, when you allowed Mr. Ramachandraiah to speak, he was speaking. If he has used anything objectionable, the Member should take your permission. He did not take your permission. He starts making a commentary. ...(Interruptions)... When you get your chance, you can raise it. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI AMAR SINGH: Let your Minister comment on it. What is the problem? ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: We have a right to interrupt. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, there is a procedure. You have permitted him to speak.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay. Please conclude, Mr. Ramachandraiah. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI AMAR SINGH: Don't use your lungpower. We also have our lungpower.

ֳ֯ן : ָ , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)...

 

 

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: *

THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no, no. These things will not go on record. ...(Interruptions)... It will not go on record. ...(Interruptions)... ߕ ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)...

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH : You have no right to interrupt. ...(Interruptions)...

ֳ֯ן : ™ֻ , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)... ™ֻ , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)... ...(־֮֬)... I am here to respond. ...(Interruptions)... Please sit down. ...(Interruptions)... Please sit down. ...(Interruptions)... Please sit down.

SHRI K. KESHAVA RAO: She is a Member of the other House. Why is he referring to her name?

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Because she happens to be the President of your party. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. ...(Interruptions)... Please sit down.

SHRI PRAVEEN RASHTRAPAL: Mr. Chairman, Sir, you have not allowed any Member to speak......(Interruptions)...

ֳ֯ן : ™ֻ , ? ...(־֮֬)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, *

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no; nothing will go on record. ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Ramachandraiah, please sit down. ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Ramachandraiah, don't take note of all those things. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI PRAVEEN RASHTRAPAL: We won't allow it.

 

*Not recorded.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: What is the unparliamentary word I have used? ...(Interruptions)... What is the unparliamentary word I have used here? ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI AMAR SINGH: If you accept that,......(Interruptions)... We will create a ruckus. If you accept the challenge, we also accept it. ...(Interruptions)... (Followed by TMV/2X)

TMV-KLG/2X/4.15

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. (Interruptions)... Please sit down. (Interruptions)... Please sit down. (Interruptions)... You are also not recognising the Chair. (Interruptions)... They are also not recognising the Chair. (Interruptions)... I said, "You please sit down". Let him conclude. This will not go on. (Interruptions)... This will not go on. (Interruptions)...

SHRI PRAVEEN RASHTRAPAL: You have to listen to our complaint also. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There is a way. I am listening. (Interruptions)... I requested you to sit down. But you are just interrupting. How can I prevent a Member from participating in a debate? (Interruptions)...

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Has Mr. Amar Singh got a right to interrupt the debate? (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I can tell Mr. Amar Singh, but you can't.

(Interruptions)...

SHRI AMAR SINGH: If you interrupt 100 times, I will interrupt 200 times. (Interruptions)...

ֳ֯ן : ָ , ֯ ך ..(־֮֬).. ֯ ך ..(־֮֬)

Are we discussing the price rise? (Interruptions)...

 

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, you ask them to sit down. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy, please sit down. (Interruptions)... ָ , ֯ ך ..(־֮֬).. ֯ ך ..(־֮֬)

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: You don't know so many things. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ramchandraiah, I think, for the first time you are indulging in these things. (Interruptions)... Mr. Reddy, you please take your seat. You always participate in the debate. Please don't take cognisance of these things. It still happens. (Interruptions)...

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: You can't expect me to indulge in sycophancy. (Interruptions)....

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Then only the disruption takes place. Please conclude. (Interruptions)...

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Sir, they can't expect me to indulge in sycophancy. (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Sir, I repeat with all the strength at my command that more than 4,000 farmers committed suicide.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: That is your statement. That is on record.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: I will repeat that with all the vigour at my command.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Kindly conclude.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Sir, I request the Government to kindly strengthen the PDS as they have promised or committed to the nation. I was told that the Government is considering a proposal on hiking the prices of foodgrains for BPL and APL categories and cutting allocations to both the sections. In the case of Antyodaya programme, the allocation has already been decreased, as Shrimati Brinda Karat has pointed out. So, our request is that the Government should not indulge in such retrograde steps. We request them to kindly strengthen the PDS so that every common man will get the ration and no person will die of hunger in this country.

As far as petro prices, which the Government is mainly advancing, are concerned.... (Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ramachandraiah, your time is over. I have to regulate the time. Please understand the difficulty of the Chair. I have to regulate the time. Each party has been allocated a particular time. All of you know about it.

SHRI C. RAMACHANDRAIAH: Okay, Sir. I will conclude. My last request to the Minister is, please rationalise the tax structure. You reduce the taxes on crude oil so that the profits can be contained to a certain extent. The crude prices automatically go up. When the international situation improves, the prices will go up. But you never have the habit of decreasing the prices, once you increase it, even though the crude prices come down. This Government has got the sagacity and it has done it. You kindly do it. The administered price system has been abolished and the Prime Minister has gone to the extent of saying that the petroleum companies will have the liberty of fixing the prices. This is not the time. This is not the correct time. My request is, kindly bestow attention to it and be kind enough towards the common man. You reduce the tax structure and bring down the oil prices so that it will not have a commensurate effect on the articles. Thank you.

(Ends)

(Followed by AKA/2Y)

AKA-VK/2Y/4:20

0 ϳ : ָ, ׻֋ ֮ ִֵ ?

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ׻֋ 10 ״֮֙ ִֵ

0 ϳ (֕ã֮) : ָ, ӳ߸ ִõ ָ ֕ ֤ ֓ ֟ ָ ִֵ ֻ֟ ִ ֮֟, ָ߲ ֤ ִ ֤ և ָ כ , ß ׻֋ וִָ , ָ , ׮ָ , ָ ׾ָ֓ ֮ ֤ ֛ ׾ָ֓ ֋ , ױ և ָ , ו ֮֟ כ , ָ ֮֕ן ָ ֟ ׸ãן ָ ֮֕ן ֳ ֵ ֋ ֕֋ ׻֋ ߙ ־ פ ֋ ָ , ֛ ֮ ׮ֵ֤ ߕ ִִ ִϵ , 滵 և ֋ ֕ ֳ 滵 ֿ ר ؓ֟ ָ , ֤ ؓ֟ , ָָ ؓ֟ , Ϭִ֮ӡ ؓ֟ , ׾֢ ӡ ؓ֟ , ָ ؓ֟ ָ ֓

, ו ָ ֕ ֪ ִ, ֮ ֮֮ ӲӬ ִ, ׻ִֵ ֤֣ 滵 ֜ ֲ, , , ֻ, ןֻ, , ֳ ߕ ִ ׯ֔ 8-9 ߮ 滵 ר , ָ և ֋, ָ ֟ , , , ָ ֆ ֻ֮ ֛ , ׻֋ ִ֮, ã ֻ , ֛ ָ ֵ ״֟ ֕֙ , ״֟ ֵ ֮ ָ ֻ֋, ֮ ֓ ֜֋, ָ ֳֻ , ױ ד ӲӬ ֟ , ֤- ãןֵ , ֲ ֟ , և ״֟ ִ֤ ָ ָ ꅠ ָ ׾֯ ֣ ָ ָ ָ ָ ֻ ָָ ָ ֻ ֮ וִָ ֻ ֛ , ֱ ֮֕ן ֣ ߠ ׻֋ ֲָָ וִָ ֕ ָָ , ֲ ߠ ֤֟ ֙ , ֮-־ã ֙֠ , և Ͽ ֿ֮ ־ã Ͽ ָ וִָ ָָ ֟ ֜ ֋ ֕ ָָ ֻ ֕ ֻ֮ ׻֋ ֕ ׻֋ ? ֮ וִָ ֮ ָ ֕ և ָ ֲ ֋Ӆ ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ , ֨ Կá , 8 ןֿ֟ ׬ ׾ , ִ ֱ ֤֮ , ׮־ ֕ ׿ֵֻ כߕ , ִ ָ ֮֯ ׻֋ ָߴ ïꌙ ֕ ֟ , ֯׸ ׾֬ ״ֻ, ֕ ָ ֵ , ָ ָ֯, ֻ, ֙׸, ֻ ִ ֮ ָ ׾֬ ֳ ֮֯ ו ָ ïꌙ ֕ ֟ ׻֋ ֮ ֵ֮ , ָ ָ ָև ׻֋, ָ ִ ׻֋ ׿ֵֻ כߕ פ ӿ֮ ָ ֺ , ֮

þ֓ ֻ֕ ָ ֕ ֟ ־ ָ ֻ ֮, þ֓ ֻ֕ ״ֻ֟ ִ -֕ ֕ ִ ֤ ߮ ׻֋ þ֓ ֻ֕ ״ֻ֟օ ָ ֮֟ և ֻ ֮ Ϥ֟ ֻ֕ ߮ ׻֋ ֬ , ׻֋ ֕ ֺ כ ״ֻ ִ ֤ ָ , ֋ ֟ þ֓ ֻ֕ ֻ ״ֻ , ־ þ֓ ֻ֕ ״ֻ

, և ָ ׮ֵӡ ׻֋, ֛ ׸ ֯ ָ և ָ ׮ֵӡ , ָָ ֕ ָָ ָ ׮֙ظ , ֕ , 000 ֟ ֕ , ֯׸ ִֻ ָ ֟ , ִ֮֮ ־ ִֵ ִ ֛ Ӥ ..(־֮֬)..

ֵ֮ ֻ ָ : ֯ ֮ ֕ ֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ָ֕ : ֯ ֕ ..(־֮֬).

0 ϳ : ̸֧֕ ֯׸ ָ ׾֬֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ָ֕ : ֯ פ ? ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ֯ ֮ ו֋ ..(־֮֬).. , ֮ ו֋ ..(־֮֬).. , ֯ ֮ ו֋

('2z/sch' ָ )

SCH/4.25/2Z

ֳ֯ן: ֋, ֯ ֮ , ...(־֮֬) ֋, ֮ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)

֮֮ߵ ֤õ: ֮֯ פ ӲӬ օ

. ϳ : פ ֟ ...(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ֵ : ָ ֯ ֮֕ן

. ϳ : ֮֕ן ...(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ֵ : ֯ և ֮ ϵ

ֳ֯ן: ָ ֮֕ן

. ϳ : , ֻ ֣֣ ָ֬ ָ ֟ ֯׸ ָ, ֕ , ִ և ֵ֤ ָ֯ ־ ָָ , ߴ֟ ֿ ר ֲ ָ , ֳ , ֻ ִ , ֮ ֳ ״ֻ ײ֓׻֋ ֻ ֳ , ֮ ֤ ״ֻ ֵ ו ֣ , ֕ ָָ ָ ָ ֵ ֟ ? ֻ ִ֬ ־ ׸ ָ ֵ ֮ ָ ׮֙ظ ֮ Ù , ֮ Ù ײ , ֮ ָߤ , ִ ָߤ և, ߴ֟ ֵ, ֲ ߕ ï כï ֮ ׮֙ظ ָ ׮׿֟ , և ָ ׮ֵ֮

, ӛָ Ͼע , , Ӳ׬֟ ׬ָ ָ֯, וִָ ׮׿֟ ֋ ֮ וִָ ־ֲ֤ ֲִֵ , ׬׸ ֯׸ כ ֋ ָ Ԯ ֵ ֋, ֮֟ և ָ ֓ ׻֋ ֵ ֮ ֺ

, ֕ã֮ ֟ , פ ֟ և ևԅ ׻ִֵ ֤֣ ߴ֟ ר ֳ ֮֟ ׻ִֵ ֤֣ ӟָ™ߵ ָ֕ ׻֋ ֟ , ָ ӲӬ ֟׮ֳԸ , ӟָ™ߵ ָ֕ ֤֣ ִֵ ݻֻև֮ ִֵ ֲ ӟָ™ߵ ָ֕ ߕ̻ ִ ר , ִ ָ ָָ ֛ ִ ׻ֵ ߕ̻ ִ ײ , ָ ִ ֜ ֟ ֟ Ϥ ߵ֟ ־֮ ֿ ִ ֤ ָ ߕ ׬ ֜ ׻֋ ֕ ֟ Ϥ , פ , ׸ ָ™ , ֕ ָָ ׮׿֟ ָ ߕ ָ ׬ ֵ ֋, ֮֟ ֕ ָָ ָ ׻ִֵ ֤֣ , ָ ָ ֻ ֬ Ϥ ֻ ָ 24 ֵ ר և ָ וִָ ִ ׻ִֵ ֤֣ ִ ָ , ָ ߕ ֟ Ϥ ֮ ֻ כֻ ֮ ׻֯-ִ פ֮ օ ָ ־֮ ֓ , þֵ , ָ ӡ ֻ ֤ ֬և , ו֮ ߕ̻ ִ ֜ ־֕ ֡ ֛ ֻ-֛ ר ױ ־ ֙ ֱ ֋ ֕ ־ ָ ֱ ָ ãן և ָ ׮ֵ֮ ִ ֮֟ ̲֮ ֮ן פ֮ , ֮֟ ֲ ֟ ִ֟ ֻ ֟ ִ ֻօ ִֵ ֳ ֵ֤ , ױ ָָ ֕ ָָ ֕ã֮ ֕ ָָ ֵ֤ ָ ֈ פ ֋, -֡ , ׮ֱÙ ״ֻ , ֢ ֮ ֤ ָָ ֮ ֵ֤ ևԅ ָ ֈ ֱ ֵ ֮֟ ֟ ֱ ֕߸ ָ֮ ֤ ֟

ֲ , ֠

֤ ֯ , ֠

ָ ãן ֮ ֵ֤ ֋, ׵֟ ָָ , ֕ ָָ ָ (3A ָ ֿ:)

MCM-KS/3A/4-30

0 ϳ (֟) : ӟ ֯ ֮֟ ָָ ָ ֵ ִ֣Ԯ 滵 ָ֕ ָߤ ָ ָߤ ׻֋ פօ ֕ã֮ ߮ ֻ ֋ ָ֕ ֛ ֛ ֵ, ָ֤ ֵ ֣ ֿ ֮ ֵ ֣ ֵ ֵօ ָ ָ ָָ ִ ֮֟ , ֕ã֮ פ ֵօ ָ ָ ֛ ֻ ָ֤ , ֵ ֣ ִ , ֕ ָָ ָ ִ֣Ԯ 滵 ׻֋, ־ԕ׮ ׾ָ֟ ֻ ׻֋ ֣ ֿ֮ ׻֋ ֕ ָָ ֤ , ֵ֟ ׿ ֟ ֕ ָָ ִ ָ ־ԕ׮ ׾ָ֟ ֻ ֻꅠ ֕ ֿ֮ ֮ ؙ , ֿ֮ ״ֻ ֣ פ ֵ ꅠ ֻ 㾵־ã֟ ֻ ָ ִ , ֮ ֕ ָָ ִ , ֮ ֣ ָָ ׮֙ظ , ֻ ֮ .......(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ֵ֮ ֻ , ֮ ׾ָ֓ ֮ ו֋, ߓ ֻ ......(־֮֬) ֯ ֻ֟ , ֻ֟ ߅.....(־֮֬)

׻֟ ֟ : , ֯ ֻ ָ , .....(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ ϳ : ָ ֵ פ ......(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֙ ִ֤ Ͼֻ , ױ ߓ ...... ֯ ֯ ׬ָ

ߴ֟ ϳ : , ֕ã֮ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ , ֮ ו ָ ֕ã֮ ָָ ֕ ֲָ ֮ Ӿ-Ӿ ־ , ֲֻ֟ ֿ֮ ֮ ֤ , ֿ֮ ״ֻ ״ֻ ֲָ ָ ֲֻ ֲָ .....(־֮֬) , ֤ ׮־ ֕ã֮ ָָ ֮ Ӿֿ߻֟ ֿ֮ ֻ ן ִ ֤ Ӿ-Ӿ ߴ֟ ָ ָ ֲ ִ֮ ״ֻ ֣ ו ָ ֵ ָ ִ և ֋ ִ֟ ִ ָָ ֕ ָָ ״ֻ ־ã ׾֟ ֮ ֮ - ׿ֵֻ כߕ , ֳ ִ ֤ ״ֻ, ִ ֮֟ ״ֻ, י, ִ , ֻ ֙׸ ֳ ״ֻ ֋, ֮ ֺ ִ ֳ ׻ֵ֟ Ӿ ָ߲ ״ֻ, ֮ ״ֻ ָָ ֕ ָָ ֛ ֿ ֟ ֮ ׻֋ פ ֮ Ӿ ָ߲ ָ߲ ָ ִ֮֬ ٣ ׾ ֵ֮ ꅠ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

׮ ֵ (׿ִ ֻ) : ָ, և ָ ֟ ָָ ֮ ֮֮ և ֜ ֜ ֣ և ? ֲ ߕ ָ ִ ָ ֲֻ 녠 ָָ ܾß ָָ ָ ֻ ֮ ֮ ֣ ֵ ִ ֮֕ן ָ ָ , ֮֕ן ֣ ֻ ïײ׻֙ ָ ֕ ֕ , ָ , ֲ ֟ Ӳ׬֟ ߬ ֟ 000 ָָ ֣ 000 ָָ ִ ֻ֟ ָ ֣ ן ֮֮ և ꅠ (3B ָ ֿ:)

GS-TDB/3B/4.35

׮ ֵ (֟) : ֻ ָָ פ, և , ִ , ו ִ , ׮Ե օ ָָ ׮Ե ָ , ֟ և ֳ ֮֕ן ־֕ և ֮ ָ ֟ , ֵ 15 פ Ӥ և 15 פ ֟ ? ֕ ָָ ִ֣Ԯ ֣-֣, ָ-ָ ֟ ֮֟ ֣ ִ ֤, ִ ֤ ׻י և ֣ , ߕֻ ֟ ֲ ߕֻ ִ ֜ ֟ , ֟ ָ ߕֻ ִ ֜ ֟ , ֻ , ֮ ߱ , ִ ֻ֮ ߱ ֲ ֮ ߱ , ߱ ֮ ֛օ ָ ֋֯ ֵ ֵ, ֓ , ֤ ָ ֓ , ߕ ָ ִ ֵ, ָ ֮ ꌵ , ֮ ֕ ֺ , ֮ ־ֿ , ֮ , - ß ֮ , ָ ֮ ֮ ָ֕ פ ֤ ָ ִ , ֻ ֵ ֪֮ ֟ , ִ ߆և ָ ָָ ֮ ָָ ֮ ߆և ָ , ևԆև ָ ߆և և ָ ִ , ָ , ָ ߯ߛߋ ֵ ֮֟ ֟ , ֮֟ , ָ ָ ֛ ָ ָ ֜ ֟ פ ֤ ֜ ֮ ֻ , ֯ ָ ִ ֵ? ִ ֜ ֵ ֻ֟ , ָָ ܾß ָָ ָ - ֵ? ֵ? ִ֤ , ָ ֲ ߕ ٟ ߅ ߕ ֵ ֻ ߕ ָ ׻֋ ֳֵ֤ , þã ׻֋ ׮ָ ãן ָ ׾ָ֓ ֮ ָ ־ָ ֜և ֵ ָ ָ ןֵ , ߆ ֕ ֟ ָ ֮ , ֟- ? ߮ ָ, ָ ָ ֟ , ָ ֮ ֟ , ֻ֟ ׸ ֟ כ, ֮ ֟- , ָ ׮ֳԸ , ִ ָ ֮ ֟- , ָ ׻֋ ִԤֵ ߮ ָ פ, ָ ָ פ, ָ ֻ , ֻ֟ ֟ , ֯ ֟ և ֕ ֯ ָָ ֯ ן ֲ 1995 ־ָ , և ָ ן ֮֯ ֮և ߅ ֵ, פ ׾֢ ӡ , ֵ ֯ ן ֛ߋ ֵ֮ ֕ ֯ ן ֮ և ָ ן ֮֯ ֮և, ֻןֵ ֮֯ , ָ ֯ օ (3 ָ ָ)

SC/KGG/4.40/3C

׮ ֵ (֟) ֮֟ ׻֋ ֲ ֯ ן ָ, ֲ ֯ ִ ֮֟ ֟ ֻ ֋, ֤֕ ֟ ֋, ָ߲ ֟ ֋, ֲ ָ, ֲ ִ ״ֻ, ־ ߟ ֆ ãן ָָ և ׻֋ , ָ֮ ָָ ӲӬ ֋? ֮ ֮֯ Ù ? ֮ ֛ ֲ פ , ֻ פ 56 ֋, 60 ֋ ֵ߅ ָָ פ ֵ ֻ ִ ß-ß ֜ ? ֮ ָ ָָ ? ֮ ֵ ֮֯ פ ֵօ ֜ ֵ߅ ֮ ß-ß ֜ ֵ, ִ ß-ß ֜ ֵօ ֮֯, ָ ָ ߵ ӛָ ֮ , Ӥ , ָ ָ֕ Ӥ פ ָ֕ ֲ ֻ֟ ִ ֜ ָ ָ ֻ֟ - , , - ָָ ֲ֮߮ ָ ִ , ָ ִ , ֲָֻ֕ , ֕ ־֮ ־ ֻ ָ ָ ֲָֻ֕ ִ 괯 Ù ֟ ֻ ֯ ד֋ ֕ , ֮ פ Ϭ֮ ӡ, ׾֢ ӡ, ֪ ӡ ֲ סֵ ״ֻ ֕ סֵ ״ֻ ӲӬ ֻ ? ֻ , ֲ ׸֯ײ׻֙ ? ãן ִ֟ ֌ , ֮ ֻ פ ֜ ֕ ָ ׻֋ ִ ֜ ֋߅ ׻֋ ָָ ß ֌ , ֕ ָָ ֣ , ָ ָ ֺ ֛ ֮ ן ָ և ֮֟ ֵ֤ ֋, ֮֟ ׾֬֋ , ֮֟ ִõ ֓֋Ӆ ָָ ß ֮ ןֵ ָ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

ֳ֯ן : ָ ӟָ־ ߅ ֯ ӓ ״֮֙

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (MAHARASHTRA): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, thank you. Unfortunately, I could not follow the intervening one hour's debate, so I will try to be very brief and talk only on some points. I never take more than five minutes.

Sir, as regards who is responsible -, - ֮ , I do not think there is any scope for that because if you see the first Economic Survey that the Finance Minister presented in the present tenure, it gives a clean chit to the NDA that they received an economy in a robust condition, good rate of growth, good fiscal deficit rate, good inflation rate. After that, I must compliment the Finance Minister for having kept up the rate of growth of the GDP. But the consequences are to be seen on the fiscal deficit and the rate of inflation. That is because when you deliberately adopt a course of aam admi populism and go on spending money, then naturally the inflationary forces will get the full scope and that is the principal reason of the increase in prices today. Petroleum prices, etc., are only secondary matters.

Sir, I only got up to clarify certain things. Number one, Essential Commodities Act has been a major instrument of tyranny against farmers. People talk as if it is an instrument against terror, but if you see the history of the last fifty years, the Essential Commodities Act has always been used to depress agricultural prices and if anybody dares, I am using the word 'dares', to play with the Essential Commodities Act, the Indian farmers will stand against it and that should be remembered.

The second thing is, Sir, about the commodity exchanges. There is a definite misunderstanding that commodity exchanges and future markets are meant for profiteers. I would like to make it clear that commodity exchanges and future markets play very important role from the point of view of farmers because they provide a link between the present prices and the future prices. (contd. by kls/3d)

KLS/MP/3D-4.45

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD): And if anybody tries to touch the commodities exchange, he will have to deal with the farmers' opinion. Sir, the important cause of the increase in prices, as I said, is aam adami populism. If the Finance Minister raised the temptation of political populism, I think, in the years to come he will give a better performance on this count also. He is already giving a commendable performance of the rate of growth. But the rate of growth, which is good, is accompanied by a higher rate of inflation, then it does not serve anybody. Thank you. (Ends)

פ ס־ (׿ִ ֻ) : ֳ֯ן , ָ ֟ , ߕ - ִֵ ָ, ز֤ ׾ß ֓ ִ֟ Ӥ , ָ ֤ , ֤ ֤ ֓ , ױ - ֟ օ ָ, ֮֓֯ ־ָ "֙-ֻ ־ ֻ ֛ ֋", " ֤ ֋", ־ָ ֲֻ֟ , ֕ ִ ֟

ָ, ֟ ָָ, ָ ָָ, ָָ, ָָ ֛ ֟ , ֲ ִ ֮ , ָָ ֋ ֋ - ֟ ׻֋ : ә ״ֻ ֋ : ә և, ֲָ ֵ ֵ ִ ֵօ ֟ ֲ ߕ ̺ , ֲ ״ֻ օ

ָ, ִ ֤ ֟ ԅ ָָ , ִ ֤ ִ ָ ֤״ֵ ֮ ִ ֮ ׻ֵ ִ ָ ֮ ו ָָ ....(־֮֬)... ָ, . ϳ , ֛ ֮ ֟ ֕ ִ֟ , ֛ ֮, ָ ָ߲ ׸ , ֟ ֱ ̤ؕ ֟ ̴֮ ֙ ָ֕ ֟ ֕ ֲ ֟ , ֌ ֵ ֟ ֙ ֕ ֟ , ׸ãן և ...(־֮֬).... ߴ֟ ֋, ִ֟ ӳ߸ ֟ , ָ ָ ߮ ֲ ֲ֛և ״ֻ֟ , ̴֕ .. ֟ ֻ֟ ֙-ֻ ־ ? ֟ ֲ ߮ ֲ֛և ֮ ״ֻ , Ӥ , ֟ ֻ ָ ִ ....(־֮֬)... ָ, ? ...(־֮֬).... ֻ , ֯ ׸ֻ ו֋ ևӛ օ ? ևӛ օ כ ־ֻ , Ӭ ׸֟ ׻Ù פօ (3 E/ASC ָ ֿ:)

ASC-SSS/3E/4.50

פ ס־ (֟) : Ӭ ֲ ָ߲ ֟ , ֲ ֤֕ ״ֻ֟, ֲ ֮֟ ָ߲ ֮ ־ֻ ָ, ױ ָ߲ ߸ ә ָ߲ ֤֤ ֤ ָ ׾֢ ӡ , GDP ֟ GDP ֟֟ ֮ ܵ ֜ ָ ״ ׸ãן ? ָ, GDP is just a statistical detail. ֯ ֚ ָ ָ , כÙ֮ ֟ ? ָ, statistical , ֯ פ ֯ Ӿ֠ frozen ֮ ָ Ӿ ֻ֟ ֮ , statistician , On an average man is very comfortable. ֕ ֮ , ָ ֻ 20 ןֿ֟ , ֚ ָ ָ ָ ָ GDP ֟ , ߓ ֟ ֤ ֯ root cause ָ և, root cause mind set, socialist pattern ֲ capitalist ֟ , ֟ ִ ֟ Ӥ ֱ ֲ communist communist , capitalist - ָ ֿ דָ פ֟ ֲ ִ֮ ֲ ָ ֮ ״ֻ, ָ פ֟ ָ, ...(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ Ӥ ָ : ָ, ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֟ ָ ו , ָ ֲָ ָ ֮ ֟ ֬׸ ׸Ù ֯ ׮ָֿ և ֺ communist ֵ֮ פօ ..(־֮֬). , ԓ ֟ ֟ , ָ ָ ֙ ֵ֮ פ

פ ס־ : ֋ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : և, և

פ ס־ : ָ ֻ ܵ ӡ , communist ? capitalist ..(־֮֬)...

ߴ֟ Ӥ ָ : ָ, ׻֋ ֲָ ָ֬ ָ ֮ ׻י ֻ֮ ?

פ ס־ : ָ, commodity ֟ և ֲ ֕ ֟ ֟ ׾֤ , America ֕ commodity , ָ ָ־ ֕ commodity life sustenance ֮ ִ , ו ̤ؕ ׻֋ ֮ ׾֢ ӡ , ֯ commodity ֟ ֮և ָ commodity trading futures ֟ ֳ ֟ ֲ ֯ future trading hoarding , ֯ ֵ ֯ ֵָ֛ ֕ hoarding hoarding ׻֋ ֕ ״ֻ֟ , commodity future trading , ֕ ֕ ״ֻ֮ ...(־֮֬).. ָ, ֲ ֮ ֤ؕ ־ֻ ֵ֟ ...(־֮֬). ֋, ֛פ , ֮֕ן ֮ ֲ և , ו֮ ֻ , ֮ ֱ , ֻ֟ ֯ ֻ֟ ָ ֮ ֮ , ֯ ֻ֟ ֟ և ָ, ֤ؕ ֟ ״֮֙ ֟ ֤ؕ ֟ , ָ ֮ ִ߅ -߮ ׾֮֕ ֓ د ֲ ֮-㮮 ָ߲ ֤֕ ֓ ֲ ̤ؕ ״ֻ, ֲ ֋, ֻ ֤ؕ , ؕͤ ֲ֤ , ̤ؕ , ֲ ִ֟ Six Seventh ֟ , Ù ֕ , ߾ ֟ , ֯ ״ֻ , ״ֻ , ֯ և

(3F/NB ֿ:)

NB/NBR/3F/3.55

פ ס־֤ (֟) : ֕ ׸ãן և ֯ ״ֻ , , ֯ ִ֤ և, ִ֤ ־ ֋ ִ֟ ׸ãן ֋, օ ָ ֕߾ ㌻ ....(־֮֬) ֋ Ӥ ֻ ֟ , ֕ ֮ ֣ ? ֕ ֮ ִ߮ , ־ֻ ײֵ , ִ߮ ֮ ־ ִ߮ ־ ? ֮ ־ , פ ֲָ ֜ ֮ ִ߮ , future , 2 ֋ ן ָ ן ָָ ו ӟ , פ ֻ ֟ , ֯ ׻י ֟ , ו ӟ ָָ , ָָ ... (־֮֬)

ߴ֟ Ӥ ָ : ֳ֯ן , Ù , ֟ ֱ ֕ .... (־֮֬) Sir, he is not only weak in history, but he is also weak in calculations.

פ ס־ : ָָ , ֻ ֮ և ָָ, ָָ , ֲ ̟֕ ָ פ ֮ ֲֻ , multiplex ֋, Malls ֋, ֋? ־֮ ָ ִ֮ ׸ãן ֋, ָ ָ ֻ֟ , ׸ãן פ ֺ ֮

ֳ֯ן , ָ ӡ , ֣ ֯ ִ , ֮֯ ߾֮ , ֮ ֯ פ֓ï ו֋ ֮ ӡֵֻ ֤ פ֓ï ו֋ ... (־֮֬) ֛פ , ׸ ִֻ , ֟ ֯ ָ ֮ ֤ ֻ , ָ ָ , We are sitting on a volcano. If we don't correct the situation, poor people are going to come on the streets and the revolution is going to take place.

Lastly, I request the hon. Finance Minister, who is not listening to me, to kindly take note of it and take corrective action. Thank you.

(Ends)

SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Do you want me to summarise what you have said?

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM (TAMIL NADU): Thank you very much Sir.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There is no AIADMK Member. You can carry on with your speech.

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: They will come, Sir.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: For giving an effective oratory, he needs AIADMK Members. Otherwise, it would not be effective.

SHRI R. SHUNMUGASUNDARAM: Sir, most of the people are worried in this country about the price rise. In the trend of increasing globalisation, when the prices of certain commodities increase in certain parts of the world, it has a cascading effect on the other parts of the world. One such thing is oil which is a very vital commodity. We have been seeing, in the recent past, there is a steep increase in the oil prices and that it has its cascading effect on the other commodities, particularly in our country. The reasons for oil price rise are stated to be several and one amongst them is some tension or war in some parts of the oil producing countries. However, the Government is taking some steps to contain and it is trying its best. (CONTD. BY USY "3G")

 

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