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SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (CONTD): This is our experience. (Interruptions). He never invited. Perhaps you are under the wrong impression. Sir, the very aspect of inviting the multi-national companies or encouraging them is going to kill our industry. We are going to force many of our units to close down. There is going to be a lot of unemployment. After going through the legislation, I find that the penalties range from Rs. 1 lakh to Rs. 10 lakhs. Is it practically possible for a small vendor to maintain the standards incorporated in this legislation? As my friend, Shri Madhu, has stated regarding water, providing safe drinking water is the most important thing. That is the rootcause of the problem. Are we in a position to provide safe drinking water to the people of our country? That has to be looked into. We have seen one JPC on soft drinks. I do not know what exactly is the outcome of the JPC. We have seen a lot of positive and negative publicity on this subject. I would like to request the hon. Minister to enlighten us about the fate of farmers and fishermen. Would they really be brought under the purview of this legislation? Sir, I have gone through the recommendations of the Standing Committee. Not even one recommendation has been accepted, as I understand. I may be wrong in understanding it. I request the hon. Minister to enlighten us as to how many recommendations have been accepted and how many have been rejected. If they have been rejected, why have they been rejected? Why aren't they acceptable to the Government? The Standing Committee has gone into this subject in detail. They have done a lot of good work. Shri Ram Gopal Yadav needs to be complimented. Sir, the most affected sector is the unorganised sector. I request the hon. Minister to help us in understanding the status of the unorganised units in our country. As I see here, everyone in the food sector is required to get a licence or registration which would be issued by the local authorities. Everyone in the food industry would be brought under the purview of this legislation. I am unable to understand the logic behind this. The law would be enforced through State Commissioners of Food Safety and local level officials. When I see the Financial Memorandum, it is going to burden the State Governments. I would like to know whether the State Governments have been consulted before bringing this Bill here. What are their views? If something has to be incurred by the State Government, who would compensate them? What is the mechanism? Since you have no laboratories of your own Department and Ministry, you are going to depend on private institutions. What exactly is the thinking of the Government?

Finally, I would like to cite one example of cornflakes; how the multi-national companies are making money. Sir, one packet of 20 gram cornflakes -- I don't want to take the name of the company -- costs us Rs. 6/-. It comes to Rs. 300 per kilogram. It is written on every packet of cornflakes. Our farmer is not getting Rs. 10/- for his produce, but the multi-national companies are selling it at Rs. 300/- per kilogram. What great thing have they done? What great value have they added to it except bringing it in a colourful packet. This should be looked into. One big problem in our country is, we are very weak in post harvest mechanism.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, I am concluding. I am aware of the time constraint. I am aware of my limitations. One big problem is, we are very weak in post harvest mechanism. (Contd. By 2L)

-VK/NBR-AKG/2L/3.05.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (CONTD.): I request the hon. Minister, since he is in-charge of the Food Processing Ministry, to concentrate on construction of safe godowns, cold storages and help the small farmers and try to protect farmers and fishermen from the purview of this legislation, apart from small hubs. Thank you.

(Ends)

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (MAHARASHTRA): Thank you Mr. Deputy Chairman Sir. I have listened to the speeches made so far. And, both from the left and the right, I find that the direction of criticism is about the same that the Minister for Food Processing has tried to take a wide range of food processes, from the smallest one to the biggest one, in one single swoop to the era of modern food processing and that is going to cause serious problems like Insptector Raj, etc. Even having heard these criticisms and sharing the feelings of most of those criticisms, I would like to start by offering a bouquet of compliments to the Minister of Food Processing Industries for having dared to present a Bill or pilot a Bill at all. Since 1951, or, even the First Five Year Plan the importance of having a food industry or food processing industry for the survival of the Indian agriculture has been recorded. Since then, the food processing industry has been called the 'sun rise' industry i.e., a sun, which has been on the horizon for a long, long fifty years and it is taking long, long time to get up. I am glad that the present Minister has not tried to shirk the responsibility by tinkering with the entire era of food processing. Since 1954, eight attempts have been made to patch up to have a patched up solution. For the first time, Shri Subodh Kant Sahay, has made an integral effort to present an alternative. Now, this was a very difficult task. Many had not dared to go into that field and he has ventured. He needs to be complimented with a whole bouquet of compliments. I do that in the first place.

Secondly, there are a number of difficulties that would crop up. For example, I wonder if Food Processing Ministry is the best Ministry for handling this Food Safety and Standards Bill at all. The Standing Committee on Agriculture has, definitely, recommended that this is not the legitimate work of the Food Processing Ministry. I presume that the Cabinet has seen the recommendation of the Standing Committee and that it has decided to stick on to the Ministry of Food Processing Industries as the whole authority for this particular Bill. Sir, this is a very serious mistake. When we recently had the Bird Flu, which is a very serious problem in food safety and standards, it is not only the Minister of Agriculture who rushed -- probably, it was because his State that was concerned -- but also the Minister of Health rushed there and they tried to take preventive and containing action, while the Minister of Food Processing was nowhere in the picture. It shows that the right Ministry for handling this problem of food safety and standards is, probably, the Health Ministry, rather than the Ministry of Food Processing.

Sir, food processors in India, as I said, form a very large category, from the road-side tea shop to a butta-seller to McDonalds and even eateries of five star restaurants. And, if you prepare wool which is good for one, becomes bad for another. Therefore, what Mr. Subodh Kant Sahay has done is, he has prepared what is called in Greek is a Procrustean bed. Procrustes was a monster that prepared a fixed iron bed. And, any passer by, he would pick up and make him lie on the bed. If he was longer than the bed, his feet or head would be chopped off. If he was shorter than the bed, then he would be proved to make him the length of the bed. I think, we are trying to form a Procrustean bed which is as bad for the small dealer as also for the large dealer.

(CONTD. BY USY "2M")

NBR-USY/2m/3.10

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): Sir, certain requirements that are presumed in the Bill are actually non-existent. For example, we do not have adequate chain of cold storages, which is an important thing in food processing; secondly, we have very few laboratories. Hon. Member, Mr. Madhu, mentioned a figure of 280, but the number of laboratories that are capable of food analysis, which is far more complex and technical, is something about 30-32. The hon. Minister will let us know the number. But, in any case, the number is so small that, as the hon. Minister said, if we had given the authority to the consumer to have the food samples analysed, it was unlikely to be implemented because an ordinary consumer would find it impossible to take the food sample to the nearest laboratory and have it analysed. So, on both these counts, important presumptions, that is, cold storage facilities and good laboratories do not exist.

Sir, since 1954, when we had a last comprehensive legislation, food technology has made rapid strides and it is, possibly, one of the more difficult than frontier sciences. I do not agree with Mr. Reddy that the preparation of cornflakes is not a difficult job. I remember when there was a controversy about the potato chips and the computer chips, I had said that it is more difficult to produce a good potato chip than it is to produce a good computer chip. The food technology is an extremely sophisticated technology that requires highly skilled manpower and highly sophisticated equipments and it requires great investment.

The difficulty in India would be, that point has been mentioned earlier, that we have a very poor quality of civic services, like, water, power and even the general standard of social hygiene is so poor that in surroundings of this type it is impossible to produce food that would come to the international or of very high standards.

Then, Sir, the marketing of the food produced presents another set of problems. Most of the food produced in India tends to cater for the sophisticated five-star market, because they have the money to pay for it. While the Indian eatables may be very good, very tasty, very nourishing, all the same, people who like them do not have the purchasing power that will make the food processing industry sustainable.

Then, the food processing industry presumes that we will have the required variety of agriculture produce. For example, in India the food processing is in a stage where it is called 'eat what you can and can what you can't'. If you can eat everything, then, you don't need to do any processing, but if you can't eat everything then you can it and that becomes the food processing. But that is a system where we use the existing and traditional varieties for specialised food processing which will never come up to the world standard. For example, if Thompson Seedless is supposed to be a good table variety, then, we try to use the same variety for preparing raisins, for preparing wine, etc. We need to develop a large number of varieties of potatoes, grapes, and everything, even tomatoes. If you want to become really competitive on the basis of philosophy that we will eat what we can and we can what we can't, the food processing industry in India is unlikely to make much progress.

Then, Sir, the standard of the civic services as also the social standards would make it very difficult to maintain the hygienic and the sanitary and phyto-sanitary standards. That's another disadvantage that we would have. The manner, in which the hon. Minister has chosen to go, that is, take the entire food processing industry, small and big, and make a big take off into the modern world, will have to adopt a more practical method of doing it.

Then, the standard that the world food industry requires is 'untouched by hand'. While we insist on food prepared by hand, they believe that the best food is that is untouched by hands.

(Contd. by 2n -- VP)

 

-USY/VP-PSV/3.15/2N

SHRI SHARAD ANANTRAO JOSHI (CONTD.): And, in this kind of a world, we would again have difficulty. Given that, Sir, I would suggest to the Minister that the first thing that ought to be done is, since we have very few food laboratories compared to a relatively larger number of drug laboratories, we should follow the example of the United States and have a common Food and Drugs Act which will take care of both the things and that should be handed over to the Ministry of Health. That will give us a bigger network of food laboratories.

Then, Sir, we have, at least, five types of food products. One is the food products in the natural state as they come. For example, the bhutta or the fruits that are sold. Then, we have the unpackaged food products sold on the counter or on the table like Idlies sold in some of the eateries. Then, we have the unpackaged food products for consumption elsewhere than in the processors premises. Then, there are the packaged and branded food for domestic market, and, packaged and branded food for export market. Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, all these five categories of food products will require five different types of rules and different levels of administration. Therefore, it would be necessary that in a single Bill, rather than applying the same tool to all processors starting from the farmer to the McDonalds, we should try and prepare five sets of different rules which should take away some of the objections that have been raised by my friends.

Sir, I would not like to go into details. In fact, I have prepared clause-by-clause difficulties that I have with the Bill. I would only say that, unfortunately, the Bill is not preventive, it is more emphatically punitive. It presumes that everything will be all right and they will only take care of punishing people who do not follow the rules. Sir, again starting from the entire focus, it should not be called the Food Safety and Standards Bill because there is nothing about safety and standards in the whole Bill. It all deals with the Food Safety and Standards Authority and how it will be formed and how it will be looked over. The correct title for this will be the Food Safety and Standards Authority of India Bill. There should a specific provision to cut short and put together four or five of the aspects I made. There should be an explicit provision that nothing under this Act will oblige a farmer, a fisherman, and those who live by collecting food items from forest to register. That is the minimum he can do. Thank you. Ends)

֚ () : ֮־֤, ֳ֯ן օ

, ֪ ֮ ׾֬, 같 ޛ Ù ײֻ, ֪ ׾ֳ ָ ֵ ֵ , ײֻ ܵ , ִ ֪-֤֣ ״ ֣ ״ֻ־֙ ָ ֋ ָ ֪ և׮ פ , ָ ־ã ײֻ ֵ ֵ

ֲ ֮֟ ֕ ָ ֪-֤֣ ״ֻ־֙ ֛ ִõ ֕ ָ ״ֻ־֙ ִ ֟ և ֲֻ ֪-֤֣ , ִ 50 ןֿ֟ ׬ ֪-֤֣ ״ֻ־֙ ״ֻ ֪-֤֣ ֲֻ , וִ -- ״ֻ־֙ , ֲ ֮֟ ׯ֔ פ ֮ ֵ ֵ׮ ֤֣ ״ ֕ ָ֕ ֮י ״ֻ ֛ ײ ־ ָ ֤֣ ָ֕ ֲֻ , ׾׳֮ ӛ ִ֬ , ׯ ӛ ִ֬ ײ (2/000 ָ ֿ:)

2O/klg-pk/3.20

֚ (֟) : ָ , ׾ֿ ֳꌟֆ ָ

, ֲ ִ פ ֛ ֟ ֕ ֮ ֮ , ִ ׻֋ ֮ , ׻ ֲ ֟ ׻֋ ֮ ֲֻ ָ 16 ֮ ֮ , ו֮ ָ ֲ ״ֻ־֙ ׻֋ ֪-֤֣ ״ ׻֋ וִ ־֮֬ ֲֻ , ֮ ֕ ִ ֻ ֻ ֻ , ִ ֱ ֱ ֕ ָָ ״ֻ־֙ ִ֮ ׻֋ ֮ , ֮ ָ ֲֻ , ֲ ״ֻ ־ ֮

, ֪ ֮ ֵܵ֟ þã ӡֵֻ ָ ϓ׸ ֕ ֋ ָ ֮ , þã ӡֵֻ ӟԟ օ ָ , ָ, ֮֯, ֻ׿ֵ ָ ״ֻ־֙ ָ ֮ ֮ , þã ׾ֳ ָ ϓ׸ ֕ ײֻ ֵ ֵ , ״׮Ù ӛÙߕ ָ ֵ ֵ , ו֮ ܵ ִ - to promote and monitor food processing industries.

, ֮ ִ֬ 같 ӛ ÙԠ ׸ ֮֮ ß־ ׸ ܵ ֵ ׬ָ פ ֵ , ִ ֪-֤֣ ֵ֟, ׮ֵԟ, , Ù, כÙ֮, ׾, ׮֙ظ ֟ և ׸ ֚ ֟ և , ִ ֵ 7 -ױֵ ָ ׾׳֮ ӡֵֻ , 5 ֤õ Ϥ ׮ֵ֮ ׸ߕ , 2 ֤õ ӛÙߕ , 2 ֤õ և֮ , ֤õ և ӛ ִ և֮ օ ׸ 7 ֣ 5 ֮ 12 ֤õ ׾׳֮ ӡֵֻ Ϥ, ָָ ָ ֮ߟ ֋, ֵܵ֟ Ͽ׮ ׬ָ -ױֵ ָ ׸ -ֻ߮ ֤õ ־ և ӛÙߕ ִ և֮ ֟ և , ׬ָ ֮ , ִ כև ֵ ױ, ֮ ִ֬ ָ ׸ ָ ã ֮, ָ ֮ ֵ֟ ? ֤õ ִ ֲֻ , ִ ִֵ ֋ ָ ִ , ܵ ִ ӡֵֻ ֣ ִ և ָ ִ ִֵ ֋, ִ

, ׸ ֆ ׻֋ ã֮ ֟, ֋ ֪ ׾ֳ ׻֋ ָ ־ã , וִ ֚ ָ , ֳ ׮׿֟ ״ֻ օ 2/ ָ

AKA-PB/2P/3:20

֚ (֟) : כ֙ , ִ ָ֯և ֟ , ָ ִ ׬ ׬ ֟, ׬ ָָ ׸ ֮ ִ ׬ ָָ ֟߅ , ײֻ ܵ ֵ - "The Bill is to provide for a systematic and scientific development of Food Processing Industries." ܵ ײֻ כև ֵ , 같 ӛ Ù ׸ ܵ ִ ֵ , 같 ӛ Ù ׮׿֟ օ - ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ײֻ , ײֻ ׾ֳ ֵ ִ ӛÙ ׮֙ ϴ ֟ , ׾ֳָ ײֻ פ

, ֮ ӟԟ ׌ ã, ֪ ֤֣ ײ , ֟ ֮ ӟԟ ָև  ִ ֻ ָ ֟ ֣ ֆָև  ִ ֻ - , - ֣ ָ-ָ ֮ ֻ ׌ ֟ ֣ ָ ֆָև  ִ ֻ ܵ ֛ ֮֮ ֟, ָ ֯ ָ ӛÙ ִ ӛÙ , ׾ֵ - , , ִ ײֻ ָ ֣ , ֮ ָ ֣ ִ ׮׿֟ ִõ ֮ ֻ ײֻ ֲ ֛ ִõ , ֮֟

, ֮ ־֮֬ ֋ , ӟԟ - ׻֋, - ֮ ֻ ׻֋, - ֮ ֮ ֻ ׻֋ ӓֵ֟ ׮֯׻֙ וÙ֮ ֮ ֟ և - , ׻֋ և וÙ֮ ֮ ׿ ִ ܵ֟: - , ֜-׻ , ָ֬ , ו֮ ֮ ָ ָ֮ ָ ֮ ӟԟ ֮ ׻֋ וÙ֮ ֮ ָ ֮ ָ ָ֮ , ך ִ ֮֟ פ וÙ֮ ׌ ״ֻ ֮ ־ã , ו ֪ ֤֣ , ֺ Ӥ և ֟, خ ׻֋ ־ã ֟, ו , ֮ - ֪ ֤֣ ״ֻ , ֤ օ ׻֋ ӡ ָ ׾ָ֓

, ֕ ו ָ ־ã, ׾ֿ ӛÙ ֮֮ߵ ָ , ֟ ָ ӛÙ ֛ ӳ־֮֋ ֕ ׾ פ ӛÙ ֜־ , ֟ ׻֋ ־ֿ ֮ ִ֬ ӛÙ ֋, - , ֆָև  ִ ֻ , ׌ ״ֻ, ׻֋ ָ ־ã , ו ֮ ָ ׾֬

(2q/sch' ָ ָ)

SCH/SKC/3.30/2Q

֚ (֟): , ִ ֟ և ִ 같 Ù ׸ ֮և և , Ù, כÙ߲֮ ׮֙ ֟ և , ִ transportation of the goods ֮ ֪ ֤֣ ֮֯ ָ ׻ֵ ֵ ֯ ־ã ׮֙ظ ־ã ִ ֮֟ ֯ ׮֙ظ ײ֮ 같 ָ

ָ ֟ ײֻ ֻ ؛ ֟ և ؛ ֟ և , ֟ פ ֵ  ֪ ֤֣ ָ ו ֻ ֵ , ָ ׮׿֟ ֵ , ֮֮ ֻ ֕ ֲֻ , ׾ֿ ָ ָָ , ׮֯׻֙ ־ ã ִ֬ ֟ ֻ ֮ , ָ ָ֮ ־ֿ

ֳ֬ ( ָ֕ ״) ߚ߮

ӳ־ ֪ ֤֣ ָ , ֻ ؛ ֵ ? ײֻ ־ã ׸ ֟ ֮ ֪ ֤֣ ֮֋ , ֻ ֮֋ ׻֋ ֮ ֻ ֲֻ , ֕ כÙ֮ ֮ פ , ? ִ֟ ֮ ־ã ײֻ ָ ׮ֿ֟ ָ ֮ ״ִ֮ ׾֬ ֋߅

ָ ֟ , ו ָ וÙ֮ ֟ և , ֣ ֮ ӲӬ ֟ և ָ 40 (1) ׻ -

"The Food Safety Officer may search any place, seize any article of food or adulterant, if there is a reasonable doubt about them being involved in commission of any offence relating to food."

ִ 같 ױָ ֓ ׬ָ פ ֵ , ߴ ֟և և , ׬ָ ״֟ ָ 42 (1) ֵ -

"The Food Safety Officer shall be responsible for inspection of food business, drawing samples and sending them to Food Analyst for analysis."

֮ ߋ ꌙ ֟ ֵ֮ ֵ ߋ ꌙ ߕ ׾ßָ פ ֵ ֻ ֋, ֻ ׸ï׌ , ֻ ֮ י , ֻ ֤ ػ ߕ̮ , ֲ ֮ ״ ߋ ߕ̮ ߮ ֻ , ֻ ֋, ָ ֻ ׸ פ ֋ ָ ֻ ָ֤֮ օ ָ ָ ߋֆ ֻ , ׬ָ ֻ ׸ ߋ ָ ָ ֵ ִ ֻ ׾̮֕ ־ã և ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֬ ( ָ֕ ״): ִ֯ ו֋

֚: ״֮֙, ָ, ֻ ׾̮֕ ָ ִ ׾̮֕ פ ֋ , ָ ִ ֻ ߕ̮ פ ֋ , ִ ֛߆ ױ ׬ָ פ ֋ , ֟ ׮׿֟ ֮ , ׻֋ י ֤ ֵ Ԯ ׬ָ פ ֵ

, ֵ ֟ և , ֵ ֵ Ԯ ׬ָ פ ֵ , ָ ׮׿֟ ™ָ֓ ֜օ ױָ ֵ ֵ Ԯ ׬ָ פ ֵ ױָ ו ֤ ָ֤֮ ֟ , ׮Ե ָ ֵ , ӓ ֵ , ָ ֵ , ֓ ָ ֈә ױ ֵ ֮ Ԯ օ 2R/MCM ָ ָ

 

HK-MCM/2r/3.35

֚ (֟) : ִ ָ ֯ ו֋, ֯ Ԯ ־ã ߅

ֳ֬ ( ָ֕ ״) : ֟ ׸, ֯ ״֮֙ ֋

֚ : ָ, Ù

, ֮֮ ָ ־ã և ֮ ֳ , ו֮֟ ֮ ֻ ֮ ׮׿֟ ֪ ֤֣ ߵ֟ ֵ ֵ ִ ָ ׾ןֵ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ߠ ׾ןֵ ָ ֮ ֟ ֮ ׬ ׾ֳָ ֮ ˯ꌙ ֕ ֜֋, ™ָ֓ ֜, - ֣ ָ֤֮ ָ֮ ׸ ֮ , ײֻ ֮ ׾ןֵ ָ - ָ֤֮, , ֣ - ϳ׾֟ ֣ ָָ Ӥ ֋օ ָָ ֵ֤ ײֻ ִ֬ ֻֻ֮߮ ׮ֵ ָ  ֕ ן ֜־ , ָ ܵ ָ , - ָ֯ , - , , ָ ֋ ִõ ִ֮֬ ײֻ ֵ ֵ , ֟ ו ׻֋ ֵ ֵ , ו ׯ ׻֋ ֵ ֵ , ֱ օ ׻֋ ײֻ ׾ָ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

MS. MABEL REBELLO (JHARKHAND): Sir, I am standing here to support this Bill. I am happy that the hon. Minister has brought forward this comprehensive, consolidated and substantial Bill for food processing. Sir, this entire House is aware that it was late Shri Rajiv Gandhi, when he was the Prime Minister, who brought this Ministry of Food Processing and we need to salute him because he had a dream for the welfare of people of India. He realised that 70 per cent of the Indians live in villages and this food processing and food safety standards Bill concerns the farmer, the agriculturist and the fisherman. Sir, what is happening in our country? We are producing a large amount of fruits and vegetables. We are blessed with 365 days of sunlight and we have people who are willing to work and are very hard-working people and they produce large amounts of fruits. We are second in the world in producing fruits and vegetables. But what is happening? Large amounts of fruits and vegetables are wasted because we do not have post-harvest facility. My colleagues spoken before me mentioned that we do not have cold storages facility; we do not have processing facility. It is a fact. India is the country which produces the highest amount of milk. What are we doing with milk? Hardly 10 to 15 per cent of milk is processed. Rest of the milk is not processed. In developed countries, almost 80 per cent of the food is processed and in India we are processing hardly 7 to 8 per cent of food. Wastage in India is something to the tune of Rs.60,000 crores per annum. If this food is processed properly, value addition is there, and then it can turn into almost, I think, Rs. 2 lakh to 3 lakh crore wealth for farmers and this will bring about a sea-change in the life style and quality of lives of our farmers. Seventy per cent of our people can live very well. This was the dream of our late young Prime Minister, who is not with us. That was his dream. He said, "If I send one rupee from here, even fifteen paise do not reach the people." He had that sort of feeling for the poor. He wanted to uplift them and that is why he created this Ministry. This is the importance of this Ministry. I am happy that the Minister for Food Processing had guts to bring this Bill here. There are almost twelve Ministries which are dealing with food, agriculture, health, animal husbandry, and many others.

(Contd. by 2s/GSP)

GSP/3.40/2S

MS. MABEL REBELLO (CONTD.): But, some way or the other, the Prime Minister realised that it is the Ministry of Food that should handle it. I am really very happy about it. Sir, today, the food business in India is to the tune of Rs. 2,50,000 crores, which amounts to 20 per cent of our GDP. If we can improve this, this can enhance our GDP. Sir, we are talking about eight per cent growth rate. Sir, unless our farmers improve their lifestyles and unless whatever they produce is improved upon and there is value addition to that, they will not produce more. Only when a farmer gets good money, he will try to produce more because that will become an incentive for him. And, with that, he will improve his quality of life and the generations to come in India will be able to lead a better life.

Sir, now I come to this integrated law. Sir, even our youngsters have started going to fast foods, their diet habits are changing. People in the cities, at least, on weekends, try to go out and eat. For this, we need good quality food, and, to maintain that, we have to have proper food laws. That is why, this integrated food Bill is necessary. This will provide for a safe, hygienic, wholesome and nutritious food for all of us, and, that is why, I say, we need this.

Sir, the Government of India has a vision; it wants to make India a food factory of the world by the year 2015, and, to realise this dream, we need post-harvesting facilities. Today, what is happening? We are exporting our food products but what is the average share in the world trade. It is only 1.5 per cent. We are members of the World Trade Organisation and what is that we are exporting. We are exporting only 0.8 per cent to 0.9 per cent, that is our contribution in the world trade. And, if we want to help our own country and help our own people, our share in the world trade should definitely increase to 1.5 per cent. Sir, the Government of India has a plan to improve our trade and make it 1.5 per cent of the whole world trade by the year 2009. And, in this, agriculture can play an important and pivotal role.

Sir, I am very happy that this Bill is actually for farmers and fishermen. Sir, I come from a coastal area. I remember when I was young, sometimes, fishermen used to have a large catch but they could not sell it. Although they used to stay at high seas for days together, bring this catch and come to the shore, nobody would buy it, and, then they had to dump it as manure for the coconut trees. Sir, fish, a valuable product, was dumped as manure for the coconut trees. This is a sad plight that they did not get anything for their hard work. And, for the risk that they took to stay at the high seas for months together, what did they get? Nothing. This used to happen. Now, with this food processing, we can perform well. These fishermen and these farmers will get very good payments.

Sir, I am little worried about -- and this is my only concern here -- this centralised authority that has been talked about. I would say that it is, to a maximum extent, it will be like a bureaucratic structure. The Chairman will be of the rank of Secretary; there will be seven ex-officio Members and again five from the States and all that. Sir, actually, in this sort of authority, there should be more representation from food technocrats than bureaucrats; otherwise, it would be just another Government body. They will not have any development mind, they will be just authoritative, looking for loopholes to punish the people and the entire vision and the will of the Government to encourage this food processing industry will be hampered.

(Contd.by 2T-sk)

SK/2t/3.45

MS. MABEL REBELLO (CONTD.): And, as many others have said, you see, what have they done at the State level? There will be a Food Commissioner. He will also be a Secretary to the Government. You know, their mindset, Sir. Who will be the last man who will deal with this? The SDM or the SDO. Who are they, Sir? They are one of those most corrupt revenue officers. If these people are given this type of task, again, it will give them a handle to make more money. It is just like municipalities. What do they do? They have an understanding with the five star hotels. ֮ , They will never go and inspect those five star hotels. They can do whatever they want to do. These people will settle with the same thing, Sir. So, Sir, do not make it such a bureaucratic type of an authority. I would say like Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, they have developed technology here in India to irradiate and to increase the shelf life of our food products, like, potatoes, onions, garlic and things like that. Such technocrats should be inducted into this authority because they have got a developmental mind. They will help our country. They will see that shelf life of our food products increases. And that is how the farmer can make money. Our mindset should be developmental. Our mindset should be to help the farmers, to help the fishermen and not to negate, not to harm him, not to punish him. My only apprehension in this Bill is I do not know whether it will help the small vendors. That is where I am very, very nervous, because in this country, just like we are talking about bringing retailing business and we do not want large houses to come in retail because we know that small shop fellows will be eliminated. Similarly, the same thing is applicable here also. If you bring in large number of people and this inspector raj, the small vendors also have to get themselves registered. When they go for registration, again, they will have to go to the inspector. We are trying to perpetuate this inspector raj. On the one side, we are trying to eliminate it, and, on the other, we are trying to perpetuate it, Sir (Time-bell). Sir, can I take two more minutes? So, Sir, I request the hon. Minister to see that no harm is done to the poorest of the poor who makes a living by selling some food at roadside -- may be in Mumbai, he sells pao-bhaji; may be in Bangalore, he sells idli-dosa. That is the way they make a sustainable living. So, that sustainable living should not be thwarted. That is my request to him, Sir. Then, Sir, there are a lot of punishments for all these people. The punishment is quite harsh and severe. I welcome it. But, at the same time, there is no provision for these inspectors who will indulge in harassing these people and making money. There should be a provision to punish these inspectors as well as the officers like SDM/SDO who will make money on the blood of these small people. So, stringent punishment should be there for these officers as well.

THE VICE CHAIRMAN (SHRI KALRAJ MISHRA): Please sum up now.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Yes, Sir. I am wondering, this law is very fine for people who stay in the cities. ...(Interruptions).. I was told by my Chief Whip that I would be given 15 minutes.

THE VICE CHAIRMAN: You have already finished the allotted time.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: I thought I have taken only five minutes.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Please conclude now.

MS. MABEL REBELLO: Okay, Sir. This law is very good for people like us, the educated people, staying in the cities. But, how will this law be implemented by the poor people? Seventy per cent of our people are living in the villages. Hardly 50-60 per cent of them are literate. Even if they die by eating adulterated food, by sub-standard food, do you mean to say that they can get justice and they can get compensation? Is it possible for them? So, this mechanism should be simplified so that the least man, the illiterate man, the simplest of the simple man, the poor man, the man in the remote village can get justice. This is my request. So, while congratulating the hon. Minister for bringing forward this Bill, I will not make a long speech since you have already asked me to conclude, but I request him to take care of the last man and the least man. Thank you. (Ends) (Followed by akg-2u)

AKG/2U/3.50

ִ ֵָ (ָ Ϥ) : ֮־֤ ֳ֬ ߅ ֕ ӡ "֪ ֮ ׾֬" ֋ , ֮ ֯ ֻ ֤, ʹ֮, ִ ֤ ׾֬ ֵ ֵ ׾֬ ָ ֮-֮ ָ ֵ֟, ֲ ֛ ִõ , ״ֻ־֙ ߅ ״ֻ־֙ ָ ָ ֣ ֮ օ ֕ ֲ ֤ ״ֻ־֙ ֲ ֤ ֻ֯֕ , Ù ֻ ֳ֬ , ™ߵ ִõ Ù ֻ ߲-߲ ָ ֳ ßֻ ֟ ֲ 100-50 ֤ ָ ֋, ױ ָָ ָ ֛ և ֣, ָ, ߔ ֟ ֟ ֻ֟ ֛ ֮ ֮ , - ֤--֤ ߮ ָ ֤, ֻ ֻ ֲ ֟ , ־֕ ֤ ߓ ֟ , ָ ִֻ ֻ֮ ֟ ֻ Ù ֻ ָ , ߕ ָ օ ֮֯ ָ֟ ߕ , ו ָ ִ ״ֻ־֙ , ו֮ Ѿ ֻ֟ ֮ ֟ , ו ֣ Ѿ , Ѿ ֻ֟ Ѿ օ ֻ֟ ֯և ֕ וִָ ָ , ֟ ָ ָ֤֮ , ׸ ֟ , ֻ ֋, ָ ָ֮ ߅ ָ ֟, ֱ ֮ ֻ , ָ , ֮֟ ֳ ָ ֳ ׮ֵ ָ֤֟ ׮ֵ, Ù ֻ ָ , ״ֻ־֙ ߲ ֻ , ֯ ֯ ֮։ ׾ִָ֮֕ , ֯ ָ֮ , ֣ - , ֤ ߮- ߮ ֤ ֲ ֮ ִ֮֟ , ִ֮ ֋ , ֱֻ ָ ׮ ֵ օ ֤ , ֵ , ֮։ ֟ ֟ ָ ֻ ֮ ֲ ֮֟ ֮ ״ֻ־֙ , ֮֯ ֵ , ֕ և ָ 50 ָ ֋ Ԯ ֵ ָ ֟ , ָ ֟օ ֮ ֕ ָ ֜ ֕ ״ֻ߅ ָָ ֮ ֮֟ ָָ ֤, ָָ ևӤ , ֲ ֻ֯ ֟ ָ--ָ Դָ֤֮ ׬ָ , Դָ֤֮ ָ֤֟ ֵ֟ ֵ ߮ ֻ ֟ ֟ , ָָ , , ָ֤֮ ִ ֕ ֟ ֻ ֮ ֟ , ֲ ֵ ֟ , ӡ , ָ ֻ ֻ ֆ ... (2 ָ ֿ:)

2w/HMS-VKK/3.55

ִ ֵָ (֟) : ֯ ֻ - ֮ ֮ ָ ֮ ׻֋ ױ 14 פ և ״ֻ֟ Ӥ ָ ִ ֟ ֟ ׻֋ ֯ ֟ ֮ ֻ , , ִ֮ , ָ ׮ָ֮ ִ ֮ פ ֋ ָ ֮ ֵ, ִ ֋ ֮ ֮ ֻ ֛ , ֵ , ִ ֋ ׻֋ ֻ ֟ , ֟ ָ ׾ֿ ֮

֯ ֮ ֋ ָ ָ ֲ֤ ֳ ׻֋ ߕ ֤ ׮ֵ , ָ Ϥ ֮ ֻ ֤ , ׻֙ ֮ ״ֻ־֙ ײ ׸ ״ֻ ָ ֯ פ ֻ ָ֤֟ ׸ ײ , Ӥ ֯ ״ֻ־֙ ״ֻ߅ ׻֋ ָ ֮ ֺ

, 5 ״֮֙ ִֵ , ׻֋ ֯ ֟ פ ֻ֯ ֟ ֻ , ָ ֯ ׮ ֮ ߅ ָ ֮ օ

ָ ׯ ֻ , , ׮ֵ , ֙և ״֓ - ֳ ״ֻ־֙ ֮ ִ ֲָ , ׮ֵ ו֮ ֻ , mediocre ײ ֻ ֻ Ӥ ָ ״ֻ־֙ ֯ ֙և ו֋ ֯ ֙և ָ֕ ָߤ ֋ ױ ׯ־֋ ֛ ל Ӥ ׯ ֙և ״ֻ ß ֛ ? ־ֻ ß ֛ ? 50 ָ ָ ֯ ֮ ׯ־֋ 50 ָ ֛ ל , ֮ , 50 ָ ß ״ֻ߅ ָ ? ״ֻ־֙ ֲ ֟ ָ ֮ օ ָ ָ ߴ ֋ ֮ ֛

ָ ֮ ֻ , ָ ָ ָߤ ֟ ֯ ֟ , Ӥ ״ֻ ? ֛ ֮ ֻ , ָ ָ֤֟ ֻ ײ , - ֮ ָ ײ , Ӥ ֛ ָ ָ ֻ ִֵ ֤ ײ ֯ ָ ו֋ - ߴ֟ , ׻֙ ל ״ֻ֮ ָ ֮ ֺ ָ ָ֤֮ ֋, ֻ օ ָ ֟ , ׯ ֻ ֮ ֻ , ׻֋ ֯ ָ ָ ֛օ ֺ ߕ ֕ ֮ ֻ - ֓ ßֻ (2 /ߋ־ ָ ֿ:)

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