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The House re-assembled after lunch at two of the clock,

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair.

 

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SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK: Has the notice been given, Sir?

ָ : ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן օ ..(־֮֬).. ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , - ֮־֤ ֕ ־ ӳ߸ ִֻ ֵ ֵ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK: Has the notice been given, Sir?

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The Chairman has permitted him. (Interruptions) It has been allowed by the Chairman. (Interruptions)

SHRI SHANTARAM LAXMAN NAIK: I just wanted to know whether he has given the notice or not. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I am telling you that the Chairman has permitted him. Let us not argue on that. He will make his point just for two-three minutes. I am allowing him.

ָ : ֮־֤ ֳ֯ן ߅ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ -߮ ״֮֙ ִ֯ ו֋օ

ָ : ֳ֯ן , ָ ָ ֮ ׻֋ ֛ ֮ ֣ ֤õ ו֟ ׻֋ ֛ . דָ֤ ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ Ǥ և ִ֮ ָ ֲ ׾֢ ӡ , * .. ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ contents ֟ և

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* Expunged as ordered by the Chair.

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ָ : ָ, ָ ֤ ֟ ֮ ֱ ֮ ָ , ָ ֻ֟ , ָ ָ ֻ֟ , ֟ ֟ ֵ ָ ָ ֟ ֟ ׮, ֵ߅ ֱ ֮ ָ ֮֟֯ ֋ * ןš , ׸֠ * פ ֟ ֜ ׻֋ ֮ ֮ ֵ ß ӓ ֋ ָָ , ִָ֓ ׸ Ӧ ӛ ֻ֟߮ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֻ֟߮ ׾֢ ӡ ִָ֓ ׸ Ӧ ӛ ֲ ׾־֮ ֲ ׾֢ ӡ ֤ ָ ߤ ֓և ָٿ֟ ָ ָ ָ ׾֢ ӡ ֮ ָ֤֮ ָָ , ָָ ׮־ ..(ִֵ ә).. ׮׿֟ ֲ ӓ ߠ * ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ contents ָ ֟ և ..(־֮֬).. contents ׮ֻ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, I have a point of order. (Intrruptions)

ֳ֯ן : contents ׮ֻ פ I have removed it. which is just mentioned.

֤ߵ ֵ ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ֓) : ָ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֟ և , ֟ , ו֮ Ӳ׬֟ ֵ , ָ ֵ Ͽ ו֮ Ӳ׬֟ ֵ , ָ Rule 238(a) of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of

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* Expunged as ordered by the Chair.


Business says that prior intimation to the Chairman and the concerned Minister -- I repeat 'concerned Minister' -- should be given before making any allegation against him. (1և ָ ָ)

VP/SC/2.05/1Y

֓ (֟) : ׻֋ ֮ ־ֿ ߿֮ ֮־ָ, ػ Ͽ , ػ - 158, ָ ػ 124 ָ , ִ ֟ ï™ ֵ "Prior notice to be given to the Member against whom allegation is made." ׮־ ܵ ֮ , ֻ֟ ָ ו ָ ֵ ִ׮֟ ֤õ פ ֋ ִֵ : ׸֛ ֵ ֵ Expunge ֋, ֯ ֣Ԯ

ֳ֯ן : ֮֯ , ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

.ִֵָ : ָ, ևә Sir, I would like to raise a point of order. As the hon. Minister said, when any allegation is made ....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: If he has said that.. ....(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, let me complete it. ....(Interruptions)..I am telling it in a different form. ....(Interruptions)..

֚ : ָ, ָ ߸ ָ ֻ ֮ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ߸ ָ ֻ Please... ....(Interruptions).. I have made it very clear. ....(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, when the allegations are made against a Member or a Minister, Chairman has to give permission and it has to be intimated to the concerned Minister. After getting the reply from the Minister, the issue can be raised in the House. Therefore, I would like to submit that whatever he has spoken in this House, without getting a proper reply from the Minister, it should not go on record. ....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I have made it very clear that the Chairman had permitted him because it was a question raised in the Zero Hour. Chairman had permitted, so, whatever he wanted to submit was allowed. But, I have said very carefully, if you have observed, that no book should be referred, no allegation should be made and he has ... ....(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, he has made allegation against the Minister. ....(Interruptions).. Kindly go through the record. ....(Interruptions).. He has made allegation against the Minister. ....(Interruptions).. Kindly go through the record, Sir. ....(Interruptions).. Sir, he questioned the integrity of the Finance Minister. You kindly go through the records. ..(Interruptions)..

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ֳ֯ן : ̸ ׸ ..(־֮֬)..

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ֳ֯ן : י ׻֋ ֋ ..(־֮֬)..

֮ ֻ ӛ : ׾֢ ӡ ֮ ׻֋ ׮ֻ ֮

ֳ֯ן : ׸ ֱֻ ..(־֮֬)..

֮ ֻ ӛ : ִֵָ ײֻ ..(־֮֬)..

PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Sir, let me say one sentence. ....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Kurien, I am going to look into the record.. ....(Interruptions).. Rest assured, ... ....(Interruptions).. I can make out what you want to say. ....(Interruptions).. I have made the position very clear. ....(Interruptions)..

PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Sir, let me complete one sentence. What I am saying is that it is true that the Chairman has allowed him to raise the matter. That is correct. So, he raised it. But in raising so, if he has made any allegation against any Minister, since it is against the rules, it should be expunged. ....(Interruptions).. It should be expunged. ....(Interruptions).. I am only saying that. ....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy, you have made your point. ....(Interruptions)..

PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Sir, reference to the Minister, and the allegation, direct or direct, that part should be expunged. ....(Interruptions).. That is what I am saying. ....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Kurien, please sit down, I will tell you. ....(Interruptions).. I made it very clear that I will look into it and if it is against the rules, I will expunge it. ....(Interruptions).. I have made it very clear. ....(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: You made it very clear, but in spite of that he raised the issue. ....(Interruptions).. That is the point I would like to raise. ....(Interruptions).. Even after your observation, he made allegation against the Finance Minister. ...(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I will have to go through the record. ..(Interruptions).. Which portion, Mr. Narayanasamy? ....(Interruptions).. Please listen, Mr. Narayanasamy. He has been allowed to make a mention. I cannot stop that because the Chairman has allowed him. ....(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: But it should be within the rules. ....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy.. ....(Interruptions).. I am making it clear. ..(Interruptions).. Mr. Narayanasamy.. ....(Interruptions).. The problem with you is that you don't listen. Please listen. ....(Interruptions).. You please listen. ....(Interruptions).. Just listen, Mr. Narayanasamy. ....(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: This is not my problem. ....(Interruptions).. It is the problem with Mr. Amar Singh. ....(Interruptions).. He does not listen to your observation. ....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy, you please listen.. ..(Interruptions)..

 

SHRI AMAR SINGH: I am inspired by the conduct of my colleagues. ..(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Narayanasamy, please sit down. ..(Interruptions).. Now, Shri Penumalli Madu. ....(Interruptions)..

 

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, I will just take one minute. ....(Interruptions).. Only one minute.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, I will not allow. ....(Interruptions)..

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, I want one minute only. ....(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, I will not allow. ....(Interruptions).. No; no. ....(Interruptions).. This is wrong. ..(Interruptions).. He is a Member. In his own right he can put a question. ....(Interruptions).. All of you should not get up and support him. ....(Interruptions)..No; no. ....(Interruptions).. Don't follow certain wrong things. ...(Interruptions)...

(Followed by PB/1Z)

PB/1Z/2.10

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, please give me only one minute. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I have not given permission to anybody. ...(Interruptions)... Don't make allegation against the Chair. ...(Interruptions)... Don't make allegation against the Chair. ...(Interruptions)... It is wrong. ...(Interruption)...

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, Mr. Pachouri has said, if an allegation is made against a Minister, prior notice should be given for that. Sir, three months ago, I had given a notice; not only one notice; I had given five notices. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I don't know anything about that. I will have to look into it. ...(Interruptions)... That has nothing to do with it. ...(Interruptions)... That has nothing to do with this subject. ...(Interruptions)... No; no; why are you ... ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Jothi, it is not relevant to the subject. ...(Interruptions)... Please. That is not relevant to it. ...(Interruptions)... I have ruled that it is not relevant to the subject. ...(Interruptions)... Now, we shall take up the discussion on the Bill. ...(Interruptions)... I have not allowed that. ...(Interruptions)... That will not go on record. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI SURESH PACHOURI: As per the Rule position, it is for the Presiding Officer to take a decision. ...(Interruptions)... I have simply spoken about the rule. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Jothi, it has nothing to do with the subject. ...(Interruptions)... No; no; I am not allowing. ...(Interruptions)... No; no; nothing will go on record. ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Madhu, please start your speech on Food Safety and Standards Bill, 2006. We have taken up the Bill. ...(Interruptions)... Nothing will go on record. ...(Interruptions)... Nothing will go on record. ...(Interruptions)... No; nothing is going on record. ...(Interruptions)... Nothing is going on record. ...(Interruptions)... Please sit down. ...(Interruptions)... Please sit down.

(Ends)

THE FOOD SAFETY AND STANDARDS BILL, 2006 (CONTD.)

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I rise to speak on the Bill which we are discussing, the Food Safety and Standards Bill, 2006.

Sir, if we see the core aspect of the Bill, I find this Bill helps the large producers by tightening the screws on the small traders, manufacturers, vendors and distributors. Sir, if this Bill is accepted in its present form, we are going to create such a situation wherein a number of small manufacturers, vendors and small distributors are all going to be unemployed. This Bill has not taken into consideration the real problem of the small traders, small manufacturers and distributors. It has not taken into consideration the problems that they are facing.

Sir, in order to understand this Bill, we have to look into one aspect. After drafting this Bill, the Group of Ministers gave a notice to the media. Sir, the Press published the item in the month of January this year. If we see the idea that is carried out in the notice, we will find that the motive behind the Bill is very much visible. Is it really meant for safety standards? Or, is it meant to help the big manufacturers? It is very much clear here. (Contd. by 2a/SKC)

2A/2.15/SKC

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (CONTD.): Sir, in that statement, in the Notice, that has been published in the Press, it is mentioned that a draft integrated Food Law has been prepared which is intended to be contemporary, comprehensive and meet the dynamic requirements of international trade and Indian food trade industry. Who has drafted this Bill? After reading this, a doubt arises as to whether the Indian Industry drafted it or the Government of India drafted it!

Sir, according to me there are five important aspects dealt with in this Bill. If we look into these aspects, we would come to know how this Bill is helping the big manufacturers and eliminating the small traders.

Now, let us have a look at the five core aspects of this Bill one by one. The organized as well as unorganized food sectors are required to follow the same Food Law; this law does not distinguish between the organized and unorganized sections of the traders.

Sir, the second aspect relates to specific standards for potable water. This Bill does not necessitate any specific standards for potable water. Water is used to manufacture food items. Water from the Municipal Corporation has not been covered in this Bill; when the water supplied by a Municipal Corporation or Panchayat is contaminated and when something is manufactured with that water, then the vendors or the small traders are liable for punishment.

Thirdly, Sir, it excludes plant and animal feed and thereby, the entry of pesticides and antibiotics is excluded.

If we look at the fourth aspect, the power to suspend the license is vested with the local officers. The power to suspend the licence of any food operator is given to a local level officer; thus, there is enormous scope for harassment of the small food vendors.

Fifthly, who are the people that would be implementing it? Sir, through this Bill, it appears, the State Governments will have to bear the cost of implementing this new law. If we look at the key aspects of licensing, penalty, punishment, Inspector Raj and administration, it is very much clear that it is going to eliminate the small trader, small manufacturer and small distributor, thereby helping big business.

Sir, not only big business, this law is said to meet the dynamic requirements of international trade. Ours is a tropical country. If we look at the Western countries and their food style, for instance, in America, they consume 200 grams of mutton in a day. If, on an average, one person in one day misses eating mutton, the next day he has to eat half a kilogram. (Contd. by 2B)

HK/2b/2.20

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (CONTD.): In Western countries, milk and meat are highly used. By using these and because of this food habit -- butter, cheese, milk, milk products, ice cream and mutton -- they are, nowadays, facing a huge problem of intestinal diseases. After the study of this Bill, it comes to my mind that we are trying to produce the items that are required for the Western countries. In the present globalisation situation, the Western countries are very much interested to take vegetables from India. The vegetables and food items that are grown in India are not available in America and other European countries. Because of their diseases, they are all advised by the Health & Medical Department in Europe not to eat these types of food items. They want food items from India. In India, 99 per cent of the total production is consumed in India. We are producing for our own people. For producing dal and roti, we do not need any laboratory. We do not want any laboratory to test dal and roti. Ninety-nine per cent of the Indian people produce items for their own consumption. Only one per cent is intended for the market sale. Under these conditions, if this Bill is accepted in this form (time-bell), we will be doing injustice to the people of India, to our own people. Sir, in this Bill ..(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: How can I conclude, Sir? ..(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Why?

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: I seek your permission. Please permit me.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The allocated time is over. ..(Interruptions)..

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, this Bill is creating Food and Safety Standards Authority. This Authority is to be aided by several scientific panels and Scientific Advisory Committee and for that so many specifications are suggested -- ingredients, contaminants, pesticides, residues, biological hazards and labels. Sir, our hon. Minister is sitting here. Yesterday, I got an answer from the Ministry. It has no laboratory. This Ministry has no laboratory, not even a single laboratory and it wants to test the safety and standards of food in a laboratory.

(Contd. by 2c/GSP)

GSP-2.25-2C

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (CONTD.): Sir, when I enquired from the Ministry, I found that the number of food testing laboratories functioning in the public and private sector in the country is estimated to be 280. The Ministry of Food Processing Industries does not set up food testing laboratories on its own. It only provides financial assistance for setting up private laboratories. Sir, twenty-nine private laboratories are established. Sir, 3,500 children are dying every day in India due to malnutrition. Sir, in 2000, we enacted an important Bill, and this Bill is nullifying that Bill. It is taking away that Bill. Sir, for this Bill, eight laws governing the food sector...(Time-bell)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. A number of speakers...(Interruptions)...

SHRI PENNUMALLI MADHU: Sir, you have to give me some time.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no. I have given you sufficient time. You should conclude now.

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, he is half way through the Bill.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: That is not my concern.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, more than 10 million children die every year. Sir, the Infant Milk Substitutes Act is also there. This Bill is taking away that Act also. Sir, every day, 3,500 children are dying. The objective of the Infant Milk Substitutes Act is to ensure proper information to families on optimal infant and young child feeding to control the marketing of baby foods, with the aim to contribute to a reduction in child malnutrition and infant mortality. Sir, in 2002, at the international fora, many people appreciated over the enactment of such an Act by the Parliament; the World Health Organisation appreciated it.

Now, in the name of a comprehensive Bill, this Act is being replaced. And, if this Act is replaced, then the entire marketing lobby of baby foods is going to harm us by doing away with the importance of breast-feeding. Sir, for six months...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. I have been allowing time but that does not mean that you can go on and on indefinitely. Please sum up.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, my submission is that licensing, penalty, punishment, inspector-raj; and everything in this Bill, are to help the big manufacturers.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Next speaker, Mr. P.G. Narayanan.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, there is a National Policy on Street Vendors. This policy is also...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I have called Shri P.G. Narayanan. (Time-bell) Please.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: This policy is also providing some security to the vendors. If this Bill is enacted, the vendors will have to pay from one lakh to ten lakh rupees as fine.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You have made your point.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, in India...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude.

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Sir, we people are depending on local manufacturers and on vendors, and, our middle classes, mainly in the cities, are mostly depending on small traders, small manufacturers.

(Contd. by 2d-sk)

SK/2d/2.30

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU (CONTD.): Sir, in this context, if we adopt this Bill, it will only help the multi-nationals, very big traders and very big manufacturers. (time-bell)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now, I will have to ask the reporters not to record. ...(Interruptions)..

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Thereby it will harm a lot. So, in this form, this Bill should not be accepted. There should be proper amendments in it. Then only it should be adopted. If the Government assures us ...(Interruptions)..

SHRI N. JOTHI: You are running the Government. ...(Interruptions)..

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: We know who is running and who is doing what. When in the Government ...(Interruptions)..

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Let us not divert now. ...(Interruptions).. Mr. Madhu, please conclude it now. ...(Interruptions)..

SHRI N. JOTHI: They are the wheels and engine of the Government...(Interruptions)

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: ...when in the Government, speaking one thing; after defeat, speaking another thing. This is not our habit, Sir.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please conclude it now, Mr. Madhu...(Interruptions)...

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Whether we are supporting or opposing, we have only one policy. Our policy is the people's policy. We are for the people. With this, Sir, I conclude. Thank you. (ends)

SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN (TAMIL NADU): Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, at present we have eight Acts governing the entire food sector. This Bill is brought to consolidate and integrate all the existing eight laws and establishes the Food Safety and Standards Authority to regulate food sector. Sir, the Bill was referred to the Standing Committee. The Standing Committee, after discussing elaborately, sent its report to the Parliament. But, the pity is none of the recommendations of the Standing Committee is accepted and incorporated in this Bill. Sir, what is the use of sending the Bill to the Standing Committee when all the recommendations are rejected? This is not good, Sir. The Bill covers everyone who is involved in food business. From big industries like Nestle to the small businessmen like street vendors come under the purview of this Bill. Sir, everyone in the food sector is required to get license or registration which would be issued by the local authorities. Sir, there are a lot of anomalies in this Bill. I submit that implementation of the Bill is a serious issue. Implementation is not practical at all. There are two sectors -- organised and unorganised. There is no difficulty with the organised sector because they have already got licence. But, in the case of unorganised sector, the small businessmen, lakhs and lakhs of small street vendors, the small food manufacturers, don't have enough time to get licence immediately. The recommendation of the Standing Committee is that the unorganised sector should be left outside the requirement of registration. But, that recommendation is not accepted by the Government, is not incorporated in this Bill. (Contd. by ysr-2e)

YSR/2.35/2E

SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN (CONTD.): Sir, how can this law be implemented without considering small businessmen who are in the unorganised sector? This anomaly has to be removed.

Another major issue is water, which is a major ingredient in manufacturing food items. Sir, the quality of water should be ensured. Sir, the Bill does not require any specific standards of potable water which is provided by the local authorities. Sir, water is provided by the local authorities, corporations, municipalities, and panchayats. Sometimes, contaminated water is also provided by some local authorities. But they are exempted from the purview of this Bill. But if anybody uses that contaminated water for manufacturing food items, they are held responsible. This is not justified according to me. Sir, whoever provides potable water, whether it is the Government or private people, should be brought under the purview of this Bill. This anomaly has to be removed.

Now, I come to plants and animal feed. The Bill excluded the plants prior to harvesting and animal feed from the purview of the Bill. Sir, normally agriculturists produce good variety of foodgrains. But, sometimes, in the name of farmers, some anti-social elements use poisonous pesticides, which produce contaminated foodgrains also. They are not liable to be punished under the Bill. But the vendor, for example, of the contaminated foodgrains is liable to be punished under the Bill. But if any food manufacturer uses contaminated foodgrains, he is liable to be punished.

Another big issue is that the junior officer has the power under the Bill to suspend the licences. Sir, this junior officer can be replaced by senior officers. If this important power to suspend the licences is given to lower-level officers, this will lead to corruption and harassment. So, a new provision can be added in this Bill that a junior-level officer can inspect the shop, but he should not be allowed to take action immediately. He can recommend the matter to the senior officer, who seems to be less corrupt.

Then, Sir, the total budget, that is one-time allotment, is Rs. Three crore for setting up the Food Safety and Standards Authority, and an amount of Rs.7 crore is allotted for recurring expenditure. It does not include setting up of any infrastructure. (Contd. by VKK/2F)

VKK-AKA/2f/2.40

SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN (CONTD.): That is, labs, trained inspectors and like that. There must be some estimate of the actual cost which will be borne by both the Central Government and the State Governments. Sir, as our friend said, this network of laboratories is essential for testing the food items, but, without that facility, this Act cannot be implemented effectively. Sir, for example, in Tamil Nadu, eggs are provided to students, school-going students. What happened was that they were admitted into hospitals because of the contaminated eggs. They have to be tested, but there is no lab to test these eggs. On daily basis, students are being admitted into hospitals for treatment. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Whatever you are saying is not going on record. (Interruptions)

SHRI N. JOTHI: Sir, the quota is 100 students per day. This is what is happening. (Interruptions)

SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN: Sir, I am not yielding. So, there must be good infrastructure for proper implementation. Sir, in the absence of fully equipped laboratories with adequate trained staff, it is not possible to implement this law. (Time-bell)

Sir, the Bill is silent on cost aspect. Other than Rs.10 crores which are required to set up and run this Food Safety and Standards Authority, costs for setting up food testing labs are not indicated in the Financial Memorandum. So, these anomalies have to be removed in order to implement this proposed law effectively. Otherwise, it cannot be implemented immediately. So, I hope, when the Minister replies to the debate, he will assure the House that anomalies will be removed for its proper implementation; otherwise, this Bill should be withdrawn. Thank you. (Ends)

֮ ֻ ӛ (ײָ) : ֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ֪ ֮ ׾֬, 2005 ָ ֓ ֕ ֪ ָ ׻֋ ֲ ֛ ִõ ֮ ־ֻ , ִו , ֮־ߵ ™ ׾µ ֣ ־ֻ ׾֬ ו ãן ֵ ֵ , 2 ֵ֟ ֵ ֪ ׻֋, ״ , ״ֻ־֙ ׻֋ ֮ 8 ֮ ֵ -- 1) ֪ ״ ׮־ָ ׬׮ִֵ, 1954 (1954 37). 2) ֤ ֤, 1955. 3) ֪ ֤ ֤, 1973. 4) ֮ïן ֤ (׮ֵӡ) ֤, 1947. 5) ֪ ؕ (׾׮ִֵ) ֤, 1998. 6) ׾ֵֻ ׮֟ , ׾֟׻֟ ֓ ֪ ֙ (׮ֵӡ) ֤, 1967. 7) ݬ ݬ ֤ ֤, 1992 8) ־ֿ ß ׬׮ִֵ, 1955 (1955 10) ߮ ֪ Ӳ׬֟ ָ ֤օ ֮ ֮ , ֪ ִֻ , ִֻ , ֙ ִֻ , ֮߸ ִֻ , ֌֮ ִֻ ײֵ ߠ ֮֜ ׻֋ ӕꌿ֮ פ ֟ ('2g/sch' ָ ָ)

SCH/RSS/2.45/2G

֮ ֻ ӛ (֟): ָ ִִ ߕ , ֕ ֻ ֪ ֮ ׬ ׸ ֮־ ߾֮ ָ ֲ ׬ ָ֟ ֵ ֳ ֮ , ׮¯ϳ־ ֋ꅠ ִ ֵ ֲ ׬׮ִֵ ׸ ֤ , ׬ד֟ פ ֋, ֲ ָ ֮ ׮¯ϳ־ ֋

, Ӳ׬֟ ׾ֳߵ ӡ , ֲ ֬և ֟ , ָ ֮ ׾ןֵ ו֮ ֻ֟ ֪ ָ ׮׿֟ , ׾֬ ֋ ן֟ ִֻ þֵ Ϭ֮ ӡ ӡ ׸֤ ״ֻ þן , ׻֋ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֬և ֮֮ߵ ׾ֳߵ ӡ ׾֬ ֮ ׻֋ ֬և

ֵ ֺ ־ֻ ֵ օ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ï™ ֮֯ ӓ , ׻ Ͽ׮ ־ ױ ׾֬ ™ ֮֯ ӓ ә ֯ ׻֋ ֮֮ ӓ ָ , ִ ײָ, ֜, ָ֟, ָӛ, ֬ Ϥ, ֕ã֮ ׿ִ ֻ ֳ ֮ ֤ ֟ ߔ ׻ ָ օ ִ Ͽ׮ ָ ֟ , ײֻ ־֮֬ ֵ ֳ Ϥ ꌵ׸ ״ָֿ օ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ׾֬ ׻֟ ִֻ ãן ï™

, ָ ֮֮ߵ ӡ -߮ ֟ օ ֲ ֮֮ ӓ ׸ ָ , ָ ך ֋օ ָ ִָ , ִ ֵ -

"The Chairperson shall be appointed by the Central Government from amongst the persons of eminence in the field of food science or from amongst the persons from the administration who have been associated with the subject and is either holding or has held the position of not below the rank of Secretary to the Government of India."

ߕ̮ פ ֵ ִ ֮ ׾ֿ פ ׾ֿ ָ ָָ ֻ ״׮Ùי ױָ ꅠ ֲֻ֟ 껛 Ù ֮ ֵ , ִ ֵ ֵ ׌ ׸ֵ֛ ״׮Ùי ױָ ױ ׌ օ ֯ ֟, ׾ֿ ֟ ױָ ֟ꅠ ָ ׻ֵָ ֟ ָָ ֢ , ֤׬ָ , ָ ֮ ߅ ֪ ִֻ , ָ ֛ ֔ ֋ פ ֋ ֛ ׮ֻ֓ ßָ ָ ֔ և ֋߅ ָ ӿ֮ , ־ֲ ֮֮ߵ ӡ , ֤ ֯ ֮ ־ã ָ ׾ָ֓ ߴ ׸ֵ֛ ߱ Ù ױ և ׸ֵ֛ Ù ֯ ֮ ߕ̮ , ֵԤ ßָ ֓ օ ָ 껛 Ù ֻ ׸ֵ֛ ױ ־ã , ׸̻ ׮, ׸ִ ֋, ׻֋ ׮־ ֯

֟ , () ׻ ֵ -

"The State Government shall appoint the Commissioner of Food Safety for the State for efficient implementation of food safety and standards and other requirements laid down under this Act and the rules and regulations made thereunder." 2H/MKS/MCM ָ ָ

MCM-MKS/2H/2-50

֮ ֻ ӛ (֟) : Ù ־֮Դ ֮֋օ Ù ־֮Դ ָ Ù ״ָֿ , ֯և ״ָֿ , וݮ ֕ ֯ 껛 ו֋ כ֙, ָ Ù ־֮Դ Ù ־֮Դ ׮֤ ׾ֳ ֕ , ִ־֟ ִֻ ׾֮֬ ־֮֬ , ִ Ù ֲꌙ , ֮֯ ֕ ָָ פ ־ã ו֋, כֻ֮ ֕ ֣ ׾ֳָ ֵ ӡ ï™ ꅠ ִֻ 36 36 ֵ

"The Commissioner of Food Safety shall, by order, appoint the

Designated Officer, who shall not be below the rank of a Sub-

Divisional Officer, to be in-charge of food safety administration

in such area as may be specified by regulations

׸ ֟ ֋ ִ ߓ ֵ "There shall be a Designated Officer for each district."

׾ֳָ ׾ֳָ וֻ ֟ ֓ ׸ , ֓ ׸ וֻ ֲ֠ "not below the rank of a Sub-Divisional Officer" כÙ ֯և ױָ - וֻ 000 ױָ ׻֋ כÙ ֯և ױָ, 000 ־ - 000 כÙ ֯և ױָ , ֲֻ֟ וֻ ֤׬ָ , ֵ 같 ״ָֿ ָ ֕ ָָ , וֻ ֯և ױָ ֋, וֻ ֣׸ וݮ ױָ ֋ ָ ָ , ָָ ָ , ϵֻֿ ֮, ױ ֱֻ ִֻ ׮׿֟ ױ ׳ֵ֮ þן ׻֋ ֮օ ׻֋ ׾ֳָ , ֮֮ߵ ӡ , ׾ֳָ ï™ ו֋ ִ ֲ 같 ״ָֿ ֮֟ ֕ ָָ ߓ ױָ , ֲ Ù , ֺ ״ָֿ ״ֻ - ׾ֳ ֵ㌟ ד־ Ϭ֮ ד־օ ߓ כÙ וÙ ו֋ "not below the rank of a Sub-Divisional Officer" .......(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֟

֮ ֻ ӛ : , ״֮֙ ֯ ֤ ֲ פ ֮֟

"There shall be a Designated Officer for each district." כÙ וÙ ָ ו֋ ִֻ ãן ߅ ֯և ֻ ׸ ִ ֯ ִ ו֋, ֕ ָָ ә ״ָֿ 같 ߅ 같 ״ָֿ ָ օ ִ ֕ ָָ ן ֋ ֋, ֮ ײֻ , ִ פ ָ ևָ ֻ ֣׸ ֻ ָ , ׬ָ ֻ ָ , ֕ ֻ ָ ֮֯ ևָ ֻ ֮և , ִָֿԤ֡ ״ן ֮և ׻֋ ױָ ֿ֮ ߅ , ָ ֟ ֯ ָ֬ ָ ִֻ ֋

"The Designated Officer after scrutiny of the report of Food Analyst

shall decide as to whether the contravention is punishable with

imprisonment or fine only and in the case of contravention

punishable with imprisonment, he shall send his recommendations

within fourteen days to the Commissioner of Food Safety for

sanctioning prosecution."

 

, ֮ ֛ ־ , ֕ וֻ וݮ ױָ 같 ״ָֿ ߓ ֟-֟ ֋ ׻֋ ß ֓ ֋ 같 ״ָֿ ߌ֮ ֮ ׻֋ ִֻ ֋, ִֻ ׾׬ ִָֿ ֯ , ׾׬ ִָֿ ִ ־֮֬ ׾׬ ִָֿ օ כÙ וÙ ֲ ֯ וݮ ױָ ֮֟ , כÙ וÙ ߮ 00 00 (2J ָ ֿ:)

-MKS-TMV-GS/2J/2.55

֮ ֻ ӛ (֟) ו ִֻ , ָ ״ֻ֮ ִֻ , ߯ ֵ כÙ וÙ ו֮י ױָ ֵ֟ ֲ ߌ֮ ֮ ׻֋ , ֻ֟ ևԆָ ִ ׾֮֕ ֵ ..(ִֵ ә).. ׾֬ ׾֮֕ ֵ , ׻֋ ִֻ ִ녠 ׾֬ 42(3) ֜ 42 (4) ֵ , "The Commissioner of Food Safety shall, if he so deems fit decide, within the period prescribed by the Central Government, as per the gravity of offence....". ֕ ָָ ևә , ߌ֮ ֮ ׻֋ ָָ ׾֙ כև , ָ֬ ָ ֵ օ ׻֋ ִ ָ ӟָ׾ָ , ׾ֳָ , ָ ָ ָ ׾ָ֯ߟ Ͽ׮ י֟ ִ פև և , ִ ָ֟ ֮֮ߵ ӡ , ֮֯ ׾֬ ִ , ׾֬ ֮ ֮֯ ׬ ֚ ׮Ե ׻ֵ ׬ ֮, ׌ Ͽ׮ , ָ , י ִ י֟ , ֯ , ֯ ֲ ־ֲ , ӟ™ ֤ ӟ™ - ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri Ravula Chandra Sekar Reddy. You have five minutes.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (ANDHRA PRADESH): Thank you, Sir, for permitting me to speak on this Bill. I would like to mention one thing. We are making many laws in our country, but most of them remain only on paper since we are not in a position to implement them. Neither we have got the manpower nor the infrastructure to implement them. We must also study as to how many people are being affected or benefited by any enactment made by the Parliament. This is one of the important aspects on which I would like the hon. Minister to throw some light. There is a feeling among a section of the society that we are making laws to break them. We have a lot of experience in passing legislations and breaking them. In the case of the instant Bill, I would like to know from the hon. Minister as to what exactly the intention of the Government and how many people of our country will really get benefit out of it. How many people will really be affected by this?

Sir, first of all, we must know about the availability of food itself. That is the most important aspect. Once the food is made available, we must look at the quality, safety and standard. I would like to know whether the hospitals, hotels, hostels, catering institutions, either Government or private like railways, airlines and industrial catering, etc., are all brought under the purview of this legislation. This has to be clarified.

The hon. Minister, while introducing the Bill, said that he was going to end the inspector raj. I am worried that by virtue of this legislation we are going to strengthen the inspector raj and it is going to affect the small vendors, small hawkers and small people who are running mess for students and the working class. They are going to be affected by this legislation. I would like to request the hon. Minister to throw some light on whether they are really brought under this legislation and whether the people are going to harass them.

Sir, slowly, we are going towards multinational companies. We have already seen McDonalds, Starbucks and Pizza Huts. They are all coming to our country. They are going to kill our small units. We have the experience of mineral water. As regards the so-called mineral water, we used to have thousands of small units earlier. Now, two multinational companies have taken over the industry. All the small units are either purchased by them or forced to close down their units.

(Contd. by VK/2K)

 

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