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MR. CHAIRMAN: Papers to the laid on the Table.

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

 

1.  SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir, I lay on the Table a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance  (Department of Revenue) under section 296 of the Income tax Act, 1961, together with Explanatory Memoranda on the Notifications: -

(1)     

S.O. 847 (E), dated the 1st June, 2006, specifying the Jeevan Akshay - III Plan of the Life Insurance Corporation of India, as the annuity plans for the purposes of the clause (xii) of sub-section (2) of section 80-C of the Income tax Act, 1961.

(2)     

S.O. 848 (E), dated the 1st June, 2006, publishing the Income-tax (Fifth Amendment) Rules, 2006,

(3)     

S.O. 963 (E), dated the 29th   June, 2006, notifying the bonds to be issued by the National Highways Authority of India (NHAI) during the financial year, 2006-07 as "long-term specified asset" for the purpose of section 54 EC of the Income-tax Act, 1961. 

(4)     

S.O. 964 (E), dated the 29th   June, 2006, notifying the bonds to be issued by the Rural Electrification Corporation Limited during the financial year, 2006-07 as "long-term specified asset" for the purpose of section 54EC of the Income-tax Act, 1961.

2.  SHRI S.S.PALANIMANICKAM: Sir, I lay on the Table:

I.  A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Revenue), under section 159 of the Customs Act, 1962, together with Explanatory Memoranda on the Notifications:

(1)     

G.S.R. 257 (E) dated the 28th April, 2006, publishing Notification No.38/2006 - Customs, amending  G.S.R. 499 (E), dated the   22nd July, 2005, so as to increase margin of preference (MOP) from 10% to 25%; and G.S.R. 500 (E) dated the 22nd July, 2005, so as to increase margin of preference (MOP) from 5% to 10%.

(2)     

S.O. 721 (E) dated the 16th May, 2006, publishing Notification No.51/2006 - Customs (N.T.), dated the 16th May, 2006, amending S.O. 748 (E), dated the 3rd August, 2001, so as to revise the Tariff Value on Palm Oils, Palmoleins, Crude Soyabean Oil and Brass Scrap (all grades), based on international prices.

(3)     

G.S.R. 310 (E) dated the 24th May, 2006, publishing Notification No.47/2006 Customs, dated the 24th May, 2006, amending G.S.R. 118 (E), dated the 1st March, 2002, so as to exempt all items of equipment for National Automotive Testing and Research and Development Infrastructure Project (NATRIP) from customs duty and countervailing duty (CVD).

(4)     

G.S.R. 316 (E) dated the 26th May, 2006, publishing Notification No.49/2006 - Customs, dated the 26th May, 2006, amending  G.S.R. 118 (E), dated the 1st March, 2002, so as to relax the eligibility criteria for mega power projects located in the States of Jammu and Kashmir, Assam, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Manipur, Tripura, Nagaland and Sikkim from 1000 MW to 700 MW for thermal power plants and from 500 MW to 350 MW for hydel power plants so as to extend customs duty and CVD exemption for such projects.

(5)     

S.O. 817 (E) dated the 26th May, 2006, publishing Notification No.60/2006 - Customs (N.T.), dated the 26th May, 2006, laying down the rate of exchange for conversion of certain foreign currencies into Indian currency or vice-versa for purpose of assessment of import under Section 14 of the Customs Act, 1962.

(6)     

S.O. 818 (E) dated the 26th May, 2006, publishing Notification No.61/2006 - Customs (N.T.), dated the 26th May, 2006, laying down the rate of exchange for conversion of certain foreign currencies into Indian currency or vice-versa for purpose of assessment of export under Section 14 of the Customs Act, 1962.

(7)     

G.S.R. 330 (E) dated the 31st May, 2006, publishing Notification No.53/2006 - Customs, dated the 31st May, 2006,  amending  G.S.R. 118 (E), dated the 1st March, 2006, so as to prescribe confessional rate of customs duty @17.5% on food preparations.

(8)     

S.O. 830  (E) dated the 31st May, 2006 publishing Notification No.62/2006 - Customs (N.T.), dated the 31st May, 2006, amending S.O. 748 (E), dated the 3rd August, 2001, so as to revise the Tariff Value on Palm Oils, Palmoleins, Crude Soyabean Oil and Brass Scrap (all grades), based on international prices.

(9)     

G.S.R. 343 (E) dated the 6th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.55/2006-Customs, dated the 6th June, 2006, extending the benefit of 5% concessional customs duty on newsprint falling under Chapter 48, with width not less than 34.92 cm, or one side not less than 34.92 cm and other side exceeding 15cm in the unfold state.

(10) 

G.S.R. 364 (E) dated the 14th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.59/2006-Customs, dated the 14th June, 2006, amending G.S.R. 118 (E), dated the 1st March, 2006, so as to reduce effective rates of customs duty on Motor spirit commonly known as petrol and High Speed Diesel (HSD) from 10% to 7.5%.

(11) 

G.S.R. 367 (E) dated the 15th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.60/2006-Customs, dated the 15th June, 2006, amending G.S.R. 118 (E), dated the 1st March, 2002, so as to change the description of the item at SL. No. (10) of list 5 annexed to the Notification from "UV resin-142/Ribbon matrix" to "UV resin-1 and 2/Ribbon matrix".

(12) 

S.O. 912 (E) dated the 15th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.66/2006 - Customs (N.T.), dated the 15th June, 2006,amending S.O. 748 (E), dated the 3rd August, 2001, so as to revise the Tariff Value on Palm Oils, Palmoleins, Crude Soyabean Oil and Brass Scrap (all grades), based on international prices.

(13) 

G.S.R. 380 (E) dated the 26th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.64/2006-Customs, dated the 26th June, 2006, amending G.S.R. 291 (E), dated the 23rd July, 1996, so as to extend validity of customs duties exemption on specified goods imported by authorized work centers of LCAP  from 30th June, 2006 to 27th March, 2010.

(14) 

S.O. 952 (E) dated the 27th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.72/2006 - Customs (N.T.), dated the 27th June, 2006, laying down the rate of exchange for conversion of certain foreign currencies into Indian currency or vice-versa for purpose of assessment of import under Section 14 of the Customs Act, 1962.

(15) 

S.O. 953 (E) dated the 27th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.73/2006 - Customs (N.T.), dated the 27th June, 2006, laying down the rate of exchange for conversion of certain foreign currencies into Indian currency or vice-versa for purpose of assessment of export under Section 14 of the Customs Act, 1962

(16) 

G.S.R. 392 (E) dated the 30th June, 2006, publishing the Baggage (Amendment) Rules, 2006.

(17) 

G.S.R. 393 (E) dated the 30th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.67/2006-Customs dated the 30th June, 2006, prescribing preferential rates for goods except those covered in India's sensitive list and appended to the Notification as Annexure-I and Annexure-II.

(18) 

G.S.R. 394 (E) dated the 30th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.68/2006-Customs, dated the 30th June, 2006, extending concessions on specified textile tariff lines.

(19) 

G.S.R. 395 (E) dated the 30th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.69/2006 - Customs, dated the 30th June, 2006, amending G.S.R. 805 (E), dated the 1st September, 1989, G.S.R. 582 (E) dated the 10th August, 1999, G.S.R. 178 (E), dated the 1st March, 2000 and G.S.R. 497 (E), dated the 22nd July, 2005, so as to prevent simultaneous availment of concessions under SAFTA and other international agreements like the Global System of Trade Preferences (GSTP), Indo-Sri Lanka Free Trade Agreements (ISLAFTA), South Asian Preferential Trading Agreement (SAPTA) and Bangkok Agreement.

(20) 

S.O. 982 (E) dated the 30th June, 2006, publishing Notification No.74/2006 - Customs (N.T.), dated the 30th June, 2006, so as to revise the Tariff Value on Palm Oils, Palmoleins, Crude Soyabean Oil and Brass Scrap (all grades), based on international prices.

(21) 

G.S.R. 407 (E) dated the 6th July, 2006, publishing Notification No.71/2006 - Customs, dated the 6th July, 2006, amending G.S.R. 118 (E), dated the 1st March, 2002, so as to exempt customs duty and CV duty on naphtha when imported by Ratnagiri Gas and Power Private Limited (RGPPL).

II.  A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance  (Department of Revenue) under sub-section (7) of section 9A of the Customs Tariff Act, 1975, together with Explanatory Memoranda on the Notifications:-

(1)     

G.S.R. 308 (E), dated the 24th May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 45/2006-Customs, dated the 24th May, 2006, seeking to impose final anti-dumping duty on specified viscose filament yarn originating in or exported from the People's Republic of China and Ukraine.

(2)     

G.S.R. 309 (E), dated the 24th May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 46/2006-Customs, dated the 24th May, 2006, amending G.S.R. 294 (E) dated the 23rd July, 1996, so as to notify the National Automotive Testing and Research and Development Infrastructure Project (NATRIP) as a project for assessment under the project import scheme. 

(3)     

G.S.R. 315 (E), dated the 26th May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 48/2006-Customs, dated the 26th May, 2006, prescribing applied rates of customs duty on certain specified woolen fabrics so as to ensure that specific component of customs duty is in conformity with the current WTO bindings.

(4)     

G.S.R. 320 (E), dated the 29th May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 50/2006-Customs dated the 29th May, 2006, seeking to extend the final anti-dumping duty up to the 13th day of June, 2007, on imports of white Cement originating in, or exported from the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Iran, pending the results of the sun set review investigations being conducted by the Directorate General of Anti-dumping and Allied duties.

(5)     

G.S.R. 321 (E), dated the 29th May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 51/2006-Customs, dated the 29th May, 2006, seeking to extend the final anti-dumping duty on Zinc Oxide, originating in or exported from the People's Republic of China, pending the outcome of the sun set review investigations by the Designated Authority.

(6)     

G.S.R. 329 (E), dated the 31st May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 52/2006-Customs, dated the 31st May, 2006, imposing provisional anti-dumping duty on specified silk fabrics originating in or exported from the People's Republic of China for a period of six months.

(7)     

G.S.R. 342 (E), dated the 6th June, 2006, publishing Notification No. 54/2006-Customs, dated the 6th June, 2006, imposing provisional anti-dumping duty on Saccharin, originating in, or exported from the People's Republic of China.

(8)     

G.S.R. 351 (E), dated the 7th June, 2006, publishing Notification No. 56/2006-Customs, dated the 7th June, 2006, exempting primary products specified at Sl. No. 1 to 13 of Section IV of the Protocol to the Indo-Nepal Treaty of Trade from whole of the additional duty of customs leviable thereon under sub-section (5) of section 3 of the Customs Tariff Act, 1975.

(9)     

G.S.R. 353 (E), dated the 8th June, 2006, publishing Notification No. 57/2006-Customs, dated the 8th June, 2006, amending G.S.R. 118 (E) dated the 1st March, 2002, so as to exempt pulses, when imported through customs ports having capacity to handle bulk imports.

(10) 

G.S.R. 359 (E), dated the 9th June, 2006, publishing Notification No. 58/2006-Customs, dated the 9th June, 2006, imposing final anti-dumping duty on Aniline originating in, or exported from Japan and the United States of America, at the rates recommended by the Designated Authority in the review findings.

(11) 

G.S.R. 368 (E), dated the 15th June, 2006, publishing Notification No. 61/2006-Customs, dated the 15th June, 2006, imposing final anti-dumping duty on Metronidazole originating in, or exported from the People's Republic of China, at the rates recommended by the Designated Authority in the review findings.

(12) 

G.S.R. 384 (E), dated the 27th June, 2006, publishing Notification No. 65/2006-Customs, dated the 27th June, 2006, extending the imposition of final anti-dumping duty on Hexamine, originating in, or exported from Saudi Arabia and Russia, pending the outcome of the sun set review investigations by the Designated Authority.

(13) 

G.S.R. 409 (E), dated the 10th July, 2006, publishing Notification No. 72/2006-Customs, dated the 10th July, 2006, amending G.S.R. 891 (E) dated the 14th November, 2003, so as to continue the levy of anti-dumping duty on imports of Caustic Soda originating in, or exported from the Chinese Taipei, Indonesia and European Union (excluding France).

(14) 

G.S.R. 415 (E), dated the 11th July, 2006, publishing Notification No. 16/2006-Central Excise (N.T.), dated the 11th July, 2006, amending G.S.R. 113 (E) dated the 1st March, 2006, so as to extend retail sale price based assessment of excise duty under section 4A of the Central Excise Act, 1944 to Jarda scented tobacco falling under tariff item 24039930 and prescribe an abatement of 50% from the retail sale price for the purpose of arriving at the assessable value for excise duty purposes.

III.  A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance  (Department of Revenue), under sub-section (2) of section 38 of the Central Excise Act, 1944, together with Explanatory Memoranda on the Notifications:

(1)     

G.S.R. 313 (E), dated the 25th May, 2006, amending G.S.R 96 (E) dated the 1st March, 2006 extending the concessional rate of 16% excise duty to CNG and LPG driven passenger vehicles, of length upto 4000 mm and engine capacity upto 1200 cc.

(2)     

G.S.R. 318 (E), dated the 29th May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 11/2006-Central Excise (N.T.), dated the 29th May, 2006, amending G.S.R. 113 (E) dated the 1st March, 2006, so as to prescribe the percentages of abatement under section 4A of the Central Excise Act, 1944, for levy of central excise duty in respect of parts, components and assemblies of automobiles, plant growth regulator, and toothbrush.

(3)     

G.S.R. 319 (E), dated the 31st   May, 2006, publishing Notification No 12/2006-Central Excise (N.T.), dated the 29th May, 2006, appointing the 1st day of June, 2006, as the date on which the provisions of clause (b) of section 66 of the Finance Act, 2000, shall come into force.

(4)     

G.S.R. 344 (E), dated the 6th June, 2006, publishing Notification No. 33/2006-Central Excise, dated the 6th June, 2006, amending G.S.R. 95 (E), dated the 1st March, 2006, so as to exempt pruners from excise duty.

(5)     

G.S.R. 369 (E), dated the 19th    June, 2006, publishing Notification No 15/2006-Central Excise (N.T.), dated the 19th June, 2006, issued under section 11C of the Central Excise Act, 1944, providing that no excise duty would be leviable on (i) food preparations falling under tariff item 2106 90 99 not cleared in sealed containers, and (ii) waters falling under tariff item 2201 90 90 not cleared in sealed containers, cleared during the period 01.03.2006 to 03.05.2006.

(6)     

G.S.R. 375 (E), dated the 21st June, 2006, publishing Notification No. 35/2006- Central Excise, dated the 21st June, 2006, amending G.S.R. 94 (E), dated the 1st March, 2006, so as to substitute Chapter No. 48 for the sub-heading 4801 00.

IV.  A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance  (Department of Revenue) under sub-section (4) of section 94 of the Finance Act, 1994, together with Explanatory Memoranda on the Notifications:-

(1)     

G.S.R. 300 (E), dated the 23rd May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 21/2000-Service Tax, dated the 23rd May, 2006 amending G.S.R 115 (E), dated the 1st March, 2006 substituting certain words in the said Notification.

(2)     

G.S.R. 328 (E), dated the 31st   May, 2006, publishing Notification No. 22/2006-Service Tax, dated the 31st May, 2006, seeking to exempt from the levy of service tax, all taxable services on which the Reserve Bank of India is liable to pay service tax.

(3)     

G.S.R. 339 (E), dated the 2nd June, 2006, publishing Notification No 23/2006-Service Tax, dated the 2nd June, 2006, amending G.S.R. 115 (E), dated the 1st March, 2006, so as to exempt the levy of service tax on 30 per cent of the gross amount charged by the service provider in respect of the taxable service of business auxiliary service in relation to production or processing of parts and accessories used in the manufacture of cycles, cycle rickshaws and hand-operated sewing machines, for, or on behalf of, the client.

(4)     

G.S.R. 383 (E), dated the 2nd June, 2006, publishing the Service Tax Determination of Value (Amendment) Rules, 2006.

3.  SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: Sir, I lay on the Table:

I.  A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs), under sub-section (3) of section 21 of the Coinage Act, 1906:-

(1)     

G.S.R. 22 (E) dated the 19th January, 2006, publishing the Coinage of the Hundred Rupees and Five Rupees coined in honour of "MAHATMA BASAVESHWARA" Rules, 2006.

(2)     

G.S.R. 55 (E) dated the 10th February, 2006, publishing the Coinage of the Hundred Rupees and Five Rupees coined to commemorate "STATE BANK OF INDIA BICENTENNIAL YEAR" Rules, 2006.

II.  A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs), under sub-section (4) of section 23A of the Regional Rural Banks Act, 1976:-

(1)     

S.O. 794 (E) dated the 24th May, 2006, regarding amalgamation of Cauvery Grameena Bank and Kalpatharu Grameena Bank.

(2)     

S.O. 842 (E) dated the 1st June 2006, regarding amalgamation of Aligarh Gramin Bank, Jamuna Gramin Bank and Etah Gramin Bank.

(3)     

S.O. 843 (E) dated the 1st June 2006, regarding amalgamation of Hoshangabad Kshetriya Gramin Bank, Chhindwara-Seoni Kshetriya Gramin Bank, Mandla-Balaghat Kshetriya Gramin Bank and Shahdol Kshetriya Gramin Bank.

(4)     

S.O. 844 (E) dated the 1st June 2006, regarding amalgamation of Sree Anantha Grameena Bank, Rayalaseema Grameena Bank and Pinakini Grameena Bank.

(5)     

S.O. 877 (E) dated the 12th  June 2006, regarding amalgamation of Marwar Gramin Bank, Sriganganagar Kshetriya Gramin Bank and Bikaner Kshetriya Gramin Bank.

(6)     

S.O. 878 (E) dated the 12th  June 2006, regarding amalgamation of Ranchi Kshetriya Gramin Bank, Singhbhum Kshetriya Gramin Bank, Hazaribagh Kshetriya Gramin Bank and Giridih Kshetriya Gramin Bank.

(7)     

S.O. 986 (E) dated the 1st July 2006, regarding amalgamation of Chambal Kshetriya Gramin Bank and Gwalior-Datia Kshetriya Gramin Bank.

III.  A copy each  (in English and Hindi) of the Annual Report on the working and activities of the following Banks for the year 2005-2006, together with the Accounts and Auditor's Report thereon, under sub-section (3) of section 43 of the State Bank of India (Subsidiary Banks) Act, 1959:-

 

1.      State Bank of Bikaner and Jaipur

2.      State Bank of Indore

3.      State Bank of Travancore

4.      State Bank of Mysore

IV.  A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the Annual Report on the working and activities of the following Banks for the year 2005-2006, together with Accounts and Auditor's Report thereon, under sub-section (8) of section 10 of the Banking Companies (Acquisition and Transfer of Undertakings) Act, 1970:-

 

1.      Bank of Maharashtra

2.      Dena Bank

3.      Indian Bank

4.      Punjab National Bank

V.  A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the Annual Report on the working and activities of the following Banks for the year 2005-2006, together with Accounts and Auditors Report thereon, under sub-section (8) of section 10 of the Banking Companies (Acquisition and Transfer of Undertakings) Act, 1980:-

 

 1.        Andhra Bank

 2.        Corporation Bank

 3.        Punjab and Sind Bank

 4.        Vijaya Bank

 4.  SHRI DINSHA J. PATEL: Sir, I lay on the Table a copy    (in English and Hindi) of the Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of India (Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas) and   the Oil India Limited (OIL), for the year 2006-2007.

(ENDS)

STUDY TOUR REPORTS OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE WELFARE OF SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHEDULED TRIBES

 

SHRI ROBERT KHARSHIING (MEGHALAYA): Sir, I lay on the Table a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Study Tour Reports of the Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes:

(i) Report of the Committee on their visit to Bhopal, Mumbai and Panaji  during October, 2005; and

(ii) Report of the Committee on their visit to Bhubaneshwar, Mumbai, Kochi and Lakshadweep during February, 2006.

(ENDS)

REPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON LABOUR

 

SHRI K. CHANDRAN PILLAI (KERALA): Sir, I lay on the Table a copy (in English and Hindi) of the Fifteenth Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Labour on action taken by the Government on the Recommendations/Observations contained in its Ninth Report on Development Schemes for Handloom Sector.

(ENDS)

MESSAGE FROM LOK SABHA

THE PARLIAMENT (PREVENTION OF DISQUALIFICATION) AMENDMENT BILL, 2006

 

SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I have to report to the House the following message received from the Lok Sabha, signed by the Secretary-General of the Lok Sabha:-

"In accordance with the provisions of rule 147 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha, I am directed to inform you that Lok Sabha, at its sitting held on the 31st July, 2006, has considered and agreed without any amendment to the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Amendment Bill, 2006, as passed again by Rajya Sabha at its sitting held on the 27th July, 2006."

Sir, I lay a copy of the Bill on the Table. (Ends)

RESOLUTION RE: CONDEMNATION OF LARGE-SCALE AND INDISCRIMINATE BOMBING OF LEBANON

 

MR. CHAIRMAN: I place the following Resolution before the House:--

"This House unanimously expresses its deep concern over the growing tension in India's extended neighbourhood of West Asia that has exacerbated an already complex and delicate situation in the region. It unequivocally condemns the large-scale and indiscriminate Israeli bombing of Lebanon that has been under way for many days, which has resulted in the killing and suffering of large numbers of innocent civilians, including women and children, and caused widespread damage to civilian infrastructure in Lebanon. This House conveys the deepest condolences, sympathy and support of the people of India to the people of Lebanon at this difficult time. The people of India are ready to make their contribution in providing humanitarian relief to the victims of this tragic conflict.

Deeply concerned over the escalation of this conflict which affects India's security and other vital interests, this House calls for an immediate and unconditional cease-fire so that further destruction of Lebanon is prevented, and urgently needed humanitarian assistance can reach the affected people. We urge all parties to the conflict to eschew violence and return to the path of dialogue. This House is of the firm view that lasting peace and security in this region, which is a matter of interest and concern not only to the countries of the region, but to the whole world, can be achieved only through a negotiated and comprehensive solution to the problems of this region that takes into account the legitimate interests and grievances of all the parties concerned."

I hope the House adopts the Resolution unanimously.

The Resolution was adopted unanimously.

(Ends)

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MATTER RAISED WITH PERMISSION OF CHAIR

RE: DEMAND TO NAME THE MOLE IN PMO

 

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY (PONDICHERRY): Hon. Chairman, Sir, I would like to raise a very important issue for which I gave notice. The issue is relating to the statement by the hon. Leader of the Opposition that in 1995, information came to him that there was a mole in the Prime Minister's Office. Sir, I respect the Leader of the Opposition. He was the former Deputy Leader of the Lok Sabha. He was the former Defence Minister, External Affairs Minister and Finance Minister of this country during Vajpayeeji's regime; and now he is the Leader of the Opposition in this august House. (Contd. by NBR/1O)

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SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY (CONTD.): And, he is the Leader of the Opposition in this august House. Several interviews were given by him in the print and the electronic media, wherein he stated that he came into possession of a document of an American diplomat written to a Senator -- not named -- through which he came to know that there was a mole in the Prime Minister's Office. And, the nuclear secrets of this country, when Shri P.V. Naramasimha Rao was the Prime Minister of this country, leaked to the USA. This is a very serious allegation. This is concerning the national security of the country. Therefore, a demand was made not only in this House but also in the public to name the mole. Who is that person? He is giving several versions in several interviews. In one interview he said that he was a civil servant. Secondly, he said he retired from service. Thirdly, he said, 'I don't know whether he is a civil servant.' Again, he said that he has gone and settled in the USA. Sir, a person, who has been working in the Prime Minister's Office and leaking the vital nuclear information of this country to the USA, is desh drohi. Being a responsible Leader of this House and after holding several positions, was it not his duty to bring it to the notice of the then Prime Minister of this country? Not only this, even after that, when his Prime Minister was holding office, he was Minister. Why did he not convey this to hon. Vajpayeeji when he was the Prime Minister of this country? What made him to disclose only about the mole, that too after ten years? What is the necessity for him to tell this House now? He was a leader. Why he had not disclosed it in 1995 itself? I do not want to cast aspersions on anybody. I would like to know about this. Sir, he also said that he would disclose it to the hon. Prime Minister. I could see from the reports that he has not named the mole even in the letter written to the hon. Prime Minister. According to media reports, it was not signed. It was on a white paper. Nothing was there in that document. The whole country wants to know who is that person. Who is that mole? I want to know that.

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SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, let him say in this august House, to the people of this country, as to who is that person who gave all our nuclear secrets to the USA in 1995. This information I would like to seek from the hon. Leader of the Opposition. Thank you. (Ends)

ק : ָ, ֲ ֯, Ϭ֮ ӡ ־ӟ ֮־֤ ֯ ֈ ֮ ֟ ֮ ֻ ֈ ָ ָ׵֟ ֤ ֕ ֳ ָ, ֟ ™ ֆ ֟ ׻֋ ֲ ׻֋ ־ֻ ֛ ־ֻ ֟ ֓և ? ־ֻ Ϭ֮ ӡ 0 ִ֮ , ־ֻ ־ӟ , ׌ֵ ߓ ֛ ־ֻ , ™ߵ , ־ֻ , ָ ׌ֵָ ֌׸ օ ָ, דֽ כ , օ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֮֮ דֽ ֓և ? ָָ ־Ù ? דֽ ֟ ֵ , ָ֟ ֱ 1995 , ָ ־ ִ֮ , ׻ ֕ ? ֕ ׌ֵָ ߻ , ߔ ߻ ? ߻ ߔ ߻ ָ ִ֮ ֮ , ï™ ֕, ָ ֕ ָ ֮ ֻ ָ ֌׸ ֣ ָ ׌ֵָ ֌׸ , ߻ ߔ ־ ָ ׻֋ ־ֿ ֟ ־ֲ ״ֻ ָ, ־ֻ ֱ , ־ӟ ֟֋ - ־ֻ ׸ߙ ִֵָ ֯ , ־ֻ ׸ߙ , ֮֮ ֕ ָ֟ , *

شری شاہد صدیقی : سر، سب سے پہلے تو میں آپ کا، پردھان منتری جی کا اور جسونت سنگھہ جی کا دھنیواد کرنا چاہوں گا کہ انہوں نے اس اہم مدعے کو اس ہاؤس میں لانے کا اور اسے اوگت کرانے کا فیصلہ کیا، کیوں کہ اس ہاؤس کی طرف ان کا اتردائتّو زیادہ ہے۔ دونوں راجیہ سبھا سے ہیں۔ سر، میں دونوں کی بہت زیادہ عزت کرتا ہوں اور پورا راشٹر ان دونوں نیتاؤں کی عزت کرتا ہے۔ اس لۓ جب ان کے لۓ یہ سوال کھڑے ہوتے ہیں تو پورے دیش کے ذہن میں یہ سوال اٹھتے ہیں کہ ان باتوں کی سچائی کیا ہے؟ سوال پردھان منتری ڈاکٹر منموہن سنگھہ جی کا نہیں ہے، سوال جسونت سنگھہ جی کا نہیں ہے، دو لوگوں کے بیچ جھگڑا نہیں ہے۔ سوال ہے، راشٹر سرکشا کا، سوال ہے، ہماری نیوکلئیر سیکورٹی کا۔ سر، جو چٹھی انڈیا ٹوڈے میں چھپی ہے، میں نے اس کا الیکھہ کیا تھا۔ میں پردھان منتری جی سے جاننا چاہتا ہوں کہ اس چٹھی کی سچائی کیا ہے؟ کیا سرکار اس کو انویسٹی گیٹ کر رہی ہے؟ اس چٹھی میں جو باتیں کہی گئی ہیں، وہ بے حد خطرناک ہیں۔ نہ صرف 1995 میں کیا ہوا تھا؟ نرسمہاراؤ جی کے زمانے میں کیا ہوا تھا، بلکہ آج کیا ہو رہا ہے؟ آج جو نیوکلئیر ڈیل ہو رہی ہے، اس کے پپچھے کیا ڈیل ہے؟ ڈیل کے پیچھے کی ڈیل ہمارے سامنے آنی چاہئے، اسپشٹ ہونا چاہئے۔

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* Expunged as ordered by the Chair.


کیونکہ آج، ہمارا پورا آج اور ہماری آنے والی جنریشن کی سیکورٹی اور ہماری نیوکلئیر سیکورٹی جو ہے، اس ڈیل کے پیچھے داؤ پر لگی ہوئی ہے۔ اس لئے یہ ضروری ہے کہ اس بات کا ہمیں جواب ملے۔

سر، سوال صرف ایک مول کا نہیں ہے، جسونت سنگھہ جی بتائیں گے، وہ سوال میں رپیٹ نہیں کرنا چاہ رہا ہوں جو نارائن سامی جی نے آپ سے پوچھے ہیں، میں وہ سوال رپیٹ نہیں کر رہا ہوں، لیکن ہم یہ جاننا چاہیں گے کہ ہمیں آج جو خطرہ ہے اور جو خوف ہے، وہ یہ ہے کہ ٭

פݾֵ֕ : ֕

ק : , ֕ - , , ֻ֟ ֣ ׸ ֋ ..(־֮֬).. ֋ ..(־֮֬)..

شری شاہد صدیقی : جی، آج بھی ہے، مجھے ایسا محسوس ہوتا ہے، ہو سکتا ہے، میں غلط ہوں۔ راء میں موجور ہیں جو کہ ایک ساتھہ امریکہ بھاگ گۓ ۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔۔ اور لوگ پکڑے گئے ۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔۔

THE PRIME MINISTER (DR. MANMOHAN SINGH): Sir, that should not be allowed...(Interruptions)...I am sorry to say it...(Interruptions)...

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI ANAND SHARMA): Sir, he is misusing the opportunity given ...(Interruptions)...

֤ߵ ֵ ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ֓) : ָ, ֮ ֯ כ , ػ ֟օ

ֳ֯ן : Ͽ ֯ӕ ֟

ק : ָ, , ֵօ ™ߵ ֌׸ ־ֻ , ָ ֟ דֽ , דֽ , ֕ ֕ ߴ ֟ , ֮ ֵ , 1995 ָ 1995 ..(־֮֬)..

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* Expunged as ordered by the Chair.

شری شاہد صدیقی : سر، راء کا ایک ایجنٹ جو ہے، وہ پکڑا گیا۔ راشٹریہ سیکورٹی کا سوال ہے۔ اس پر بات ہونی چاہئے، کیوں کہ جو چٹھی ہے، اس چٹھی میں، آج ہم انرجی ایگریمنٹ کی بات کر رہے ہیں، اس کو بھی مینشن کیا گیا ہے 1995 میں۔ اگر 1995 میں۔۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔۔

DR. MANMOHAN SINGH: This is an irrelevant issue, Mr. Chairman...(Interruptions)...

ק : ָ, ֟ ..(־֮֬).. ִ ? ..(־֮֬)..

شری شاہد صدیقی : سر،میں لیٹر کی بات کر رہا ہوں۔۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔۔ اس میں ریلوینٹ ہے ۔۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֟ ֵ ..(־֮֬).. ֮֯ ֟ ֵ , ֵ ..(־֮֬)..

ק : ָ, ִ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֟֋Ӆ ֱ ֮ ֮֮ ..(־֮֬)..

شری شاہد صدیقی : سر، اس میں یہ ریلوینٹ ہے۔ پردھان منتری جی بتائیں۔ میں تو ان سے صرف اتنا جاننا چاہ رہا ہوں اس کا ۔۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔۔

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֋Ӆ ..(־֮֬)..ֱ ֵ օ..(־֮֬)..

ק : ־ӟ ֮֮ ֲ ֯ ײ֮ , ֌ ֮֯ ֌ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֟ ֟և ֮ פ ֮֯ ? ָ , ׻֋ ֯ וִָ , ֯ ־ֲ ֈ ֛օ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

شری شاہد صدیقی : میں جسونت سنگھہ جی سے جاننا چاہتا ہوں کہ جب آپ کیبنیٹ میں تھے، اس وقت آپ نے اس وقت کے پردھان منتری جی کو یہ بات کیوں نہیں بتائی اور اتنے دن ایک مول کی آپ نے پروٹیکٹ نہیں کیا؟ اگر ایسا کیا تھا تو یہ دیش کے ہت میں نہیں تھا، اس لۓیہ آپ کی ذمہ داری ہے، آپ کو اس کا جواب اس ہاؤس کو بھی اور دیش کو بھی دینا پڑے گا۔ (ختم شد)

ָ : ָ, ײ֮ ָ֮ ֟Դ֮ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֵԻֵ ָ ָ ֮ ֟

ֳ֯ן :

ӟ ֛פ : ָ, י ..(־֮֬)..

ָ : ײֻ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֋Ӆ

ӟ ֛פ : י ..(־֮֬)..֮֯ , ։ ֋օ..(־֮֬)..

פݾֵ֕ : ָ, ։ ו֋..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ׻֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ָ ֤ : ָ, ״֮֙..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֓ ָ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֮ ֟ , ֤ ֣ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : , օ ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֣ ֋օ ־ֲ ..(־֮֬)..

ָ ֤ : ֳ֯ן , ֯ ֮ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..ֻ ״֮֙ ׻֋ և ..(־֮֬)..

֮֮ߵ ֤õ : ֳ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ׻֋, ֯ ׻֋

ߟִָ : ֳ֯ן , ֯ ̸ ߕָ ִ ו֋ ָ ָ ֮

ֳ֯ן : ֟ ׻֋ ߕָ

ߟִָ : ױ ?

ֳ֯ן : ֤ ֟ օ

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֮ ֤ ? (1 ָ ֿ:)

NBR-USY/ASC/1Q/12.15

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ (֟): ָ, ֯ ֵ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֮ ֟ ֻ ...(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ו֮ י פ , ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֯ ֵ ו֋ פ ..(־֮֬)..פ ־֮ ־ ו֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ו֮ י פ , ...(־֮֬).. ו֮ י פ , .. (־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ־ ...(־֮֬)..

ߟִָ : ָ, ֯ ־ֻ ֮ , ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : , ֲ ִ ֵ ...(־֮֬)...

ߟִָ : ׻֋ ֮ ו֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֮ ..(־֮֬)..

ߟִָ : -, ָ ..(־֮֬)...ָ, ևә ָ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ָ , כ ־֮

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֓ ..(־֮֬).. ֵ ...(־֮֬). ֲ ־ֲ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : , 꿓֮ ָ և ׻֋, ֯ ׻֋

THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITTION (SHRI JASWANT SINGH): Mr. Chairman, Sir, before responding to the two observations that have been made by the two hon. Members, I do wish to clarify that I had discussed it earlier with you and you had told me that should the Prime Minister wish to intervene, he will say what he has to and I will thereafter be asked to respond. ...(Interruptions)...

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ֲ ֛ , ײ֮ ֲֻ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Sir, You had told me this this morning. I had requested my colleague, Shrimati Sushma Swaraj, to reconfirm it. She reconfirmed it. If the Prime Minister does not wish to intervene it is his choice. If he wishes to intervene, it is my request to him that he can say what he wishes to along with the other Members. ...(Interruptions)

ֳ֯ן : ו֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ֿ־ӟ ֮ : ָ ֮ ֮ .. (־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ...(־֮֬)..֋, ߬ ֟ ..(־֮֬).. ֤  ֋ ֮֮ߵ ־֮

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Mr. Chairman, Sir, I respond...(Interruptions)

֮֮ߵ ֤õ : ֱ ߵ ..(־֮֬)..

ֿ־ӟ ֮ - ?֟ ֛ ..(־֮֬).. (Interruptions) The Prime Minister had talked about decency and courage. Do you have that decency and courage? (Interruptions) Stand up and say. (Interruptions) ! ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Mr. Chairman, Sir, I had submitted yesterday that as the subject was serious, the hon. Members recognising the serious import of the subject, if I am permitted to say what I have to in relative -- I say, 'relative' -- relative peace in the House, I think, we would better subserve the subject and, then, this kind of rather intemperate interventions.

Sir, I must, at the very outset, first of all...(Interruptions) the very first misperception, misconception what ever it is that I have to do is to dispel the notion about the names. Let me go paragraph by paragraph of the note that I had submitted to the hon. Prime Minister on the 29th, or, 28th, I will come to that in a minute.

In paragraph one, are the names of both the sender of this note and the recipient. The sender is one Senator, Mr. Thomas Graham, and the recipient is Mr. Harry Barnes. The subject is 'Indian nuclear testing -- deployment of Prithvi and other steps'.

(Contd. by 1r -- VP)

-USY/VP/12.20/1R

SHRI JASWANT SINGH (CONTD.): Thereafter, the very opening sentence that Mr. Graham chooses to employ. My eyesight has gone a bit weaker since earlier times. So, you should render help. Thomas Graham is recommending, "Please treat this as a NODIS/Chetokee." These are security classifications used by the United States of America. "At this stage, please do not show this to President Carter." This is name one. "I have not shown it to Peter Goldmark." This is name two. And it goes on. It says, "I need your advice on how to proceed." It says, "...might be able to get through to people like Talbott as to the serious nature of this information." In paragraph 2 itself, Sir, it says, "the credibility of the messenger is crucial." In paragraph 3, he says, "We will have to choose between respecting the confidence of a person with direct access to Prime Minister Rao who in the past has helped diffuse pressure to resume nuclear testing versus informing Secretary of Defence Perry, Secretary of State Christopher, and President Clinton....." And he goes on to say, "The senior person I talked to swore me to secrecy as he departed for a secret meeting in Bangalore where the issue of nuclear testing will be put before the Prime Minister by a majority of his advisors who favour this step. He was very concerned that he might not win this battle, but he did not want me to share this information with anyone at this time. He feared the consequences of a leak." The paragraph goes on, Sir. I will not go into that.

Then, after that, there is the fourth paragraph. "Prime Minister Rao has called a super secret meeting to be held in Bangalore to debate whether India should resume nuclear testing, deploy the Prithvi missile and take "other steps." (I did not get a chance-- he says, Mr. Graham,--to probe what this last phrase means)". In this paragraph itself, Sir, there are certain names. Mr. Graham says, "The meeting is being held in Bangalore to avoid any leaks, either to the Americans, BJP, or to the growing number of Indian hawks...." "Participants will include the Prime Minister, senior officials from the PMO. (I did not ask who because I had limited time talking with him outside of ear shot of others)." Then, he says, "Chidambaram, Head of the Atomic Energy Commission and leading advocate of nuclear testing), Abdul Kalam, Head of DRDO and leading advocate of deploying the Prithvi Missile), Raja Ramanna, designer of 1974 tests and swing vote if the issue focus on technical need to test, Naresh Chandra, who is trying to provide the Prime Minister with informed views counter to those being advocated by the ministries). The serious nature of this meeting was so clear (and it is second such one in a month at the Prime Minister's level when these issues were debated)." Then the paragraph goes on.

Then there is a paragraph 5 which talks of the possible responses that could be given to this, and he inquires from Harry Barnes, who has been earlier an ambassador here, "whether I should talk to McNamara. Because McNamara, he suggests, "could ask for a meeting with Bill Clinton." "He said explicitly that Robin Raphael was seen in India as ineffective, a person who did not understand the level of hatred for her in India." And, he goes into some details. Then, there is a suggestion again to facilitate this by the author when he says, "When I raised the possibility that Australian Prime Minister Keating might help formulate a new geo-political coalition of states to really push for abolition."

(Continued by PK/1S)

-VP/PK/1S/12.25

SHRI JASWANT SINGH (CONTD.): ... of States to really push for abolition-- this is abolition on nuclear arms -- that is why, Sir, it continues to emphasise the seriousness of this. In paragraph seven, which I refer to, thereafter, again the relevant portion is about a possible visit-- a proposed visit of the then Head of the Atomic Energy Commission, and he does say that "Dr. Chidambaram was extremely upset because a restriction was placed upon his visit then. And I said that I understood the issue was that Mr. Chidambaram wanted to come only if an agreement could be signed, but one on nuclear safety, was out of the question." And, here, Sir, on the question of nuclear arms which the hon. Member, Shri Shahid Siddiqui has mentioned, he volunteered the informant that there were several sources of pressure on the then Prime Minister, and he goes on to elucidate a particular article that was then written in the journal of the IDSA. Then, some assessment, some speculation on the aegis of Dr. Chidambaram and Dr. Abdul Kalam respectively when how he thought that the younger scientist in each of the establishments was not as hawkish as these two, etc. There are certain elements that come in and the informant is sharing with Mr. Graham; that is why he has been called upon to argue the other side which is the non-testing side. The fifth element was an assumption that elements associated with the ISI are already extremely powerful, and that brings in the Pakistan aspect; there is considerable degree of these things after this discussion and there is a second informant, I had an hour-long debate, heated argument with a more junior official official who had obviously been doing serious thinking, and it goes on to the details of that serious thinking...(Interruptions)..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Sir, I want to put a straight question...(Interruptions)..

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please take your seat....(Interruptions).. Don't disturb..(Interruptions).. Your question will be replied...(Interruptions)... Your question will be replied.

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Sir, I am not reading out the whole thing. And, then, Sir, at the appropriate stage, I request your permission to place this on the Table of the House, but let me come to that. This person says, Mr. Graham participated in the Bangalore conference where he had been an advocate of incremental steps including placing some Indian reactors under safeguards. So, we, hear a....(Interruptions)..

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Why didn't he inform then?..(Interruptions)..

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Now, there is a discussion, thereafter, in terms of costs, and such aspects. There is also a discussion on the possible reactions with OECD countries and how the Canadian Prime Minister who had been asked to be the Chief Guest at the Republic Day parade of 1996; and, thereafter, the Government of Canada had pressed India not to test and deploy the Prithvi Missile and also-- because that has been, consistently, the Canadian stand to join the NPT, the invitation was withdrawn. That was also the period when ENRON was being negotiated, and that generated a great deal of discontent within the country. And this goes on, I won't read the whole thing. Then, there is a discussion here on the question of a Comprehensive Test Ban, and the person, with whom Mr. Graham speaking is, discounted the importance of a Comprehensive Test Ban which he asserted will have the same membership as the NPT, and thus be worthless, and he goes on to analyse this. Then, there is also, Sir, relevantly... (Contd. by 1T)

PB/1T/12.30

SHRI JASWANT SINGH (CONTD.): ... and in context of today that I said, 'these was fourth order issues after the pace of the peace process, Israel perceptions of Iran's nuclear programme, and Israel-US relations.' And, here again, we find that what was being put across in 1995 by the United States of America is what is still being put across by the United States of America. And, there is a discussion about how China would react, and also on France and, thereafter, Sir, the document goes on to talk of other things. He analyses that 'the bottom line is that there is a serious debate, the psychology in Delhi seems to be that they have "little to loose", even if Rao does not approve resumed nuclear testing, I would be surprised if his opponents would keep this decision quite. There is a significant change that saving into the Americans will become a major electoral issue, and the BJP in their Election Manifesto announced that. Then, there he goes into the issues for decision. That is here, Sir. I do want to prove that; there is sufficient here by way of name.

The other observation that was given to me by the Prime Minister's letter, let me cite, Sir, is that there it is said, 'this does not come under a letterhead, and this has not got the signature." I am somewhat surprised by this observation, Sir. The intelligence sources do not give whatever they have to give by way of letterheads, and they do not sign everything. That is why you have an aspect of intelligence assessment. Now, where does this whole thing begin, Sir? The thing begins out of a book that I have written and out of 400-odd pages, only one page in that really relates to this aspect, and I want to read parts of it only because to emphasise the context and the relevance in which this issue was quoted by me as I have quoted, only in part. I quote, "I had started, really, by explaining all the measures that had to be taken to safeguard the secrecy of the tests. Brajesh Mishra, then Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister, is to be credited that this was achieved so irreproachably. The aspect of security was, primarily, his responsibility. But the search for information was real, it was relentless, very intrusive and had been going on for long," And, there I cite, "In 1995, for example, ..." and I will state, this is when -- now, I will not go into details. Sir, I won't read out the whole thing because it is all here and I don't wish to take much time of the House. Then I conclude by saying, 'it was vital for India that total secrecy be maintained. For another, this note emphasises how the United States and its allies considered this issue, also that there was 'awareness', in the summer of 1998, about developments that could take place with the BJP in office. That is why I took with a certain degree of scepticism, the theory about the objectives of the United States, with whom I was engaged in meeting the requirements of that country, was to somehow, anyhow prevent India from testing. Sir, I have earlier given the examples on that. Now, how is the sequence of this? On 24th or so, -- the 21st the book was on the bookstands, -- I think, the hon. Prime Minister was perhaps asked a question about this or what. I don't know where he was asked. Thereafter, he said, he found that, the words to that effect, that I lacked decency, and I was deficient of courage. I find, Sir, that this statement was certainly unwarranted. It was, in my view, unworthy, and it was gratuitously insulting. (Contd. by 1u/SKC)

1u/12.35/skc

SHRI JASWANT SINGH (CONTD.): Now, so far as the sequence of events is concerned, after the Prime Minister had said this on the 24th, I wrote a letter to the Prime Minister on the 25th, which, I may be permitted to quote. No, I had my Secretary call the Prime Minister's Private Secretary to seek time for me to go and meet him; I could have shared all this and explained all this to him. The Private Secretary of the Prime Minister informed my Secretary - 'we will give you time within five minutes; I will come back to you within five minutes'. Five minutes turned into five hours. I think, after a lapse of about 60 hours or so, I wrote to the Prime Minister and I told Dr. Manmohan Singh, 'In response to your recent remarks in the media, my Secretary had, on 25th July, in the forenoon, conveyed a request to your Private Secretary about an appointment with you. I wanted then to hand over to you papers in connection with an 'informant' in the PMO' -- the word has not come here -- 'in the mid 1990s. As there was no response after more than 60 hours, this request was repeated and in writing. I have still to hear from you or your office about this meeting. I am led, therefore, to the conclusion that you are perhaps disinclined to meeting me. To save you any discomfiture I am sending by hand my Secretary all the relevant papers.' In between, the Secretary had written to the Private Secretary also and on the 28th, I sent all the papers. On the 29th Sir, the hon., the Prime Minister chose to reply me. He said it is not for me to reply.

I have an observation to share with you, Sir, and also with all hon. Members. It is, of course, up to the Prime Minister how he chooses to reply a Member of Parliament. But, I do request the Prime Minister to reflect on the manner in which he chose to have the reply communicated. If the Prime Minister of the country chooses to have a letter that has been written by a 'Jaswant Singh' and do the way he did, I think it would entirely be a matter of no consequence, because I am quite accustomed to this kind of treatment. But I do, Sir, hold a position in the House and in Parliament and also within my party. I don't say it for any other reason, but where I am today, Dr. Manmohan Singh has been for several years, when, as things happened, I was Leader of the House. These are the altering circumstances of time and situations. I did not, on even one single occasion, ever, in any fashion whatsoever, so conduct either the business of the House or my behaviour, to cause any, or show any, direct or indirect response to the Prime Minister. This is including one occasion when I made a request to my senior, who is today the Leader of the Opposition in Lok Sabha; the then Leader of the Opposition, Dr. Manmohan Singh, was aggrieved about something that he had said as the then Home Minister. And he did convey his regrets and apologies to Dr. Manmohan Singh. Not once did we directly or indirectly show any disrespect to the office or to the person.

Sir, I do object, after that unwarranted and gratuitous insult about calling me lacking in decency and in courage, to go to the extent of the having my letter to the Prime Minister replied by his Press Advisor directly to the Press, even before I have received it. This is, for all of us, Sir, particularly you and the Prime Minister, to reflect if that is how the Opposition is to be treated. The letter from the Prime Minister said that it is not in original. I am intrigued because I will be submitting this, and I think, this has been shared with the Press. It is said that it is not ain original, has no signature or letterhead. Now, I must answer this. Of course, I am not the recipient; I am not Harry Bounds, I am not in the mailing list of Tom Graham, and, therefore, I am hardly likely to get a signed copy. (Contd. by 1w/ksk)

KSK/KLG/12.40/1W

SHRI JASWANT SINGH (CONTD): How can all information of this nature be on a letterhead? And, I found it, if I might put it, somewhat irrelevant and facetious that the question of letterhead and signature ought to be raised as an objection by the hon. the Prime Minister. Then, there is an information, etc., "alleged informant is not named nor is there any confirmation that the person was from PMO." Sir, that is for the Prime Minister to judge because then, I replied to him on the 31st itself, because I was not in Delhi when I got his letter first conveyed to me through his Press Advisor. I did say "I received your letter of July 29, 2006, last evening upon my return from Mumbai. Before that, your Press Advisor had already shared its contents with the media. What is implied in the contents of your letter about a weekly magazine's report is not relevant to what I sent to you. All such information, as I had in my possession, has been shared fully. If you consider that the issue merits further investigation, that will be for you to decide. If in your reckoning, it is not of sufficient import, that too is your judgement, though that is not consistent with your earlier personal comments about me. I also added, Sir, "You have considered it fit to render some advice to me, though your simultaneous expression of disinterest in the matter makes the approach somewhat unfocussed." Now what is the advice? What is the question that has been raised by both Shahid Siddiqui Saheb and Thiru Narayanasamy. The issue, Sir, in 1995, 1996, 1997 was really about the Test Ban Treaty, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. We, in 1995, with the indefinite extension of the NPT, the question that prominently faced India as a challenge, was the question of CTBT. As you know, Sir, or those who are students of these matters, know and it has been reported also that Dr. Manmohan Singh, when he was Finance Minister to Prime Minister Rao, was opposed to the nuclear testing by India and he had grounds which he can certainly hold that those were not beneficial to India on the grounds of economic consequences, etc. He is welcomed to hold those views and if he continues to hold those views, even then, he is welcomed to hold those views....(Interruptions).

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL): It is totally extraneous.

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: It is very irrelevant. In 1995, what happened...(Interruptions).

THE PRIME MINISTER (DR. MANMOHAN SINGH): What is the relevance of what...(Interruptions).

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I will tell you the relevance.

SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: It is totally extraneous matter. Talking about financial consequences is a totally extraneous matter.

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: In 1995, it has been said, Sir,...(Interruptions).

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: I have been hearing for the last 45 minutes. The Leader of the Opposition has not so far named...(Interruptions).

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: These are all relevant, Sir.

SHRI SHAHID SIDDIQUI: The deal is most important issue....(Interruptions). That issue is extremely important today.....(Interruptions).

MR. CHAIRMAN: Let him finish...(Interruptions). You will get these answers.

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: He is not a Member of the House and he is giving some advice. It is not his subject also.

ߴ֟ ֵ : ָ כև ׸ ..(־֮֬) ..

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: It was a straight question to the Leader of the Opposition...(Interruptions). Who is that spy? Who is that mole?

MR. CHAIRMAN: He has not finished as yet....(Interruptions). I am noticing that he has not finished it.

SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: What was he doing since 1996? This is 2006. Let me say, Sir....(Interruptions). (continued by 1x)

GSP-AKA/1X/12.45

־֮ ָ ֻ (֟) : 1996 2006 , ֟և? ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֮֮ߵ ֤õ, ״֮֙ ו֋ ..(־֮֬).. ו ӲӬ ִֵ ׻ֵ , כ ׿֟ ֵ ִֻ ֮֮ߵ ק Ͽ ֵ , ׸ ִ֟ ֤ ָ ֋ יי ֋ ֤ ִõ ߅

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Sir, the very first thing, I would submit ...(Interruptions)...

DR. MANMOHAN SINGH: Sir, the hon. Member should answer the simple question: who is the mole...(Interruptions)...and why is he shying away from that? The real question is why is he shying away...(Interruptions)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ָֻ ָ Ӳ׬֟ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: No, that is all right. (Interruptions)

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ױ׿ֵֻ ߿֮ ߛ ֱ פ ߿֮ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: No, no. That is not...(Interruptions)...

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ָֻ ָ, ָֻ ߛ ֱ פ ߿֮օ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, why should the Prime Minister refer to the Leader of the Opposition as a Member? Should we refer to him as a Member?

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: Sir, he is the hon. Leader of the Opposition. (Interruptions)

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, it is not...(Interruptions)...Member from Assam should know that he is the Leader of the Opposition.

SHRI SANTOSH BAGRODIA: Sir, why is he beating about the bush? ...(Interruptions)...

֤ߵ ֵ ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ֓) : וִָ ֤ ָ וִָ ֟ ד֟ ? ..(־֮֬)..

־֮ ָ ֻ : ֲ ֟ ֟ ֌ וִָ ׮ֳևԅ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ֮֮ߵ ֤õ, ֮ ֟ ֻ-ֻ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

ߴ֟ ֵ : ָ, ֢ ֻ ֟ ָ ֵԤ֋ ֋ ..(־֮֬).. ײ֟ ֕ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI: Sir, ...(Interruptions)... the security of India was lying in their hands...(Interruptions)...indicates how the...(Interruptions)...without any enquiry and finding the real culprit. (Interruptions) It is they who made the whole system...(Interruptions)... Those things should not be kept secret.

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, why is he now saying...(Interruptions)...

SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, did you allow him to speak? (Interruptions)

SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI: The whole system is in the...(Interruptions)....They should come out...(Interruptions)...

MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon. Members, I will request you to let him finish. If there is any query from your side, I will allow it. (Interruptions)

ֵԙ ן ӡ (ߴ֟ ״ ) : ִ ֟֋ ֟ ..(־֮֬)..

SHRI SURESH PACHOURI: Sir, I have a point of order. (Interruptions)

SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, if they...(Interruptions)...we will also ask questions to the Prime Minister.

SHRI RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD: Yes, Sir. Then, we will also put questions to the Prime Minister.

SHRI SURESH PACHOURI: Sir, I have a point of order. (Interruptions) Sir, on page 133 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Council of States, Rule 34 (ii) says:

"If a private member, in the course of his speech wishes to quote from a secret or confidential or classified Government document, paper or report, he shall supply a copy thereof in advance to the Chairman and also indicate the portions thereof which he wishes to quote in order to enable the Chairman to decide whether the permission should be granted."

֮֮ ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ױ׿ֵֻ , ֻ ֵ , ֮֮ߵ ֤õ י , פ וִָ ֤ ָ , וִָ ֤ ָ וִָ֮ ִ , ֟ , י , ָ ֟֋ PMO mole ? ('1y/sch' ָ )

SK-SCH/1Y/12.50

ֳ֯ן: ...(־֮֬) ״֮֙, ״֮֙ և ..(־֮֬) ...(־֮֬) ֮ ׮־ ֮ ֟ ֟ ֻ , ֤ פ ֯ ד֟ ִ Ͽ , ָ֮ , ֲ ֯ , ֯ע ...(־֮֬) ־ֲ פ פ ...(־֮֬) ֯ פ ...(־֮֬)

ߴ֟ Ӥ ָ: ָ, ֮ ֻ ה ? ...(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן: ֯ פ כ ...(־֮֬) כ , ָ ...(־֮֬)

֓: ָ, ָ ...(־֮֬)

ׯϵָ֮ ӿ: ӌֵָ ֟ ֻ ה ? ...(־֮֬)

׾ ִ: ֤ߵ ֵ ӡ ...(־֮֬) ־ã ֻ֮ ֛ ...(־֮֬)

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: My simple question to the Leader of Opposition is ...(Interruptions).. He has not replied so far. ...(Interruptions)..

ֳ֯ן: ֯ Ͽ ָ ״ֻ ֋, ֻ ֋ ...(־֮֬) ֯ Ͽ ָ ״ֻ, let him finish ...(interruptions) ״֮֙, ֯ և ...(־֮֬)

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Mr. Chairman, Sir, firstly to set at rest the legitimate concern of the very hard working, sometimes over-active, the Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs. I have, Sir, as you know, submitted a copy in advance of this to the Chairman. I have also, Sir, I recollect right, on the 28th perhaps, sent an advance copy of this to the honourable, the Prime Minister. And, I have with me, Sir, a full text of it which I have authenticated and with your permission ...(Interruptions).. at the appropriate time ...(Interruptions)..

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ו֋, 'which I have authenticated' ֯ ...(־֮֬)

פݾֵ֕ : ֕ ӡ ֵ ?

׾ ֤: Ϭ֮ ӡ ֵ֤ ָ׌ ֋ ...(־֮֬)

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Sir, I have just one ...(Interruptions).. I have one appeal to make, Sir, that I can reply only as I can reply. It will be difficult for me to reply as the hon. Prime Minister replies, for example. I live with myself, and luckily I don't live with the Treasury Benches. So, please permit me to reply as I want to. And, if you do me the courtesy of listening carefully ...(Interruptions).. As it is, I have been in the media by hon. Members of the ruling establishment arraignment, if I might call it. They have called me a 'liar', they have suggested I be 'tried' and various other epithets were used. I think, the House does owe me the courtesy of listening in peace ...(Interruptions)..

(THE MINISTER OF OVERSEAS INDIAN AFFAIRS) SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: How can you say 'epithets'? ...(Interruptions).. You have made an allegation...(Interruptions)..You might have met the Press ...(Interruptions).. (followed by 1z-ysr)

-SK/YSR-MCM/12.55/1Z

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I am very glad that my good friend suggests that he does not want to arrest me or charge me. I am relieved to hear that, Sir. I am trying to establish that the centrality of this whole effort by the United States then and today is to control, curb, and put under a kind of a tight wrap Indias nuclear programme. (Interruptions)

ӟ ֛פ : ֯ ֟ .....(־֮֬)

SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I will prove. (Interruptions)

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ֳ֯ן , ֯ .....(־֮֬) ָ וִָ , וִָ ......(־֮֬)

SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI: He did not do anything for...(Interruptions) Under what pressure...(Interruptions)..

SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Sir, I am on a point of order. (Interruptions)

ק : ָ,.......(־֮֬)

شری شاھد صدیقی : سر۔۔۔۔۔مداخلت۔۔۔۔۔

SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Sir, I am on a point of order. (Interruptions) It is 240. (Interruptions)

SHRI PRIYARANJAN DASMUNSI: We are still negotiating..(Interruptions)..

ֳ֯ן : ֮֮ߵ ֤õ, ״֮֙.......(־֮֬)

ִ׮֟ ֤õ : ִ ֟և.......(־֮֬)

ֳ֯ן : ִ ֟և ֟և .......(־֮֬) ֟ ׮֋......(־֮֬) ֟ ו֋ ֮ ׮־ ׸ ֲꌙ ׸ֻ ׻֋ ׸Ù ֯ ֻ ֻ ֟ ֯ , פ......(־֮֬) ִֻ ָ֮ ֟ ......(־֮֬)

SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Who gave the letter? When was it given? (Interruptions) We should know that. (Interruptions)

SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Sir, Rule 240. (Interruptions). Sir, let me read it out. (Interruptions)

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: Who is that mole? (Interruptions)

SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Let me quote, Sir. It is, "Irrelevance or repetition." I read it. It says, "The Chairman, after having called the attention of the Council to the conduct of a member who persists in irrelevance or in tedious repetition either of his own arguments or of the arguments used by other members in debate, may direct him to discontinue his speech."

The question was: Who is the mole? (Interruptions) Instead of answering the question, the hon. Member is repeating irrelevant subject and irrelevant matter. He is not answering the question. (Interruptions)

(Contd. by VKK/2A)

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