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-SK/YSR/2.00/2N

SHRI PRAVEEN RASHTRAPAL (CONTD.): Retailers are not going to be annihilated. Retailers should not be annihilated. Retailers need not be removed from the market. At the same time, we must take care of the interests of the retailers, and also take care of the employment opportunities. I am sure about it. When a very big mall is opened, hundreds of people get employment inside that mall. So, employment is provided. In one shop, only the owner himself does the business. He maintains the account and takes care of taraju, weighing scale. Everything is done by one seth, who is the owner, and his one servant. When the same shop is converted into a very big departmental store, a number of people get employment. So, it is employment-oriented. When you go to a big shop, it is employment-oriented. At the same time, it is well managed, and we are able to compete with the larger group within our country as well as the larger group coming all the way from foreign countries. FDI is already there. Our own brothers, the NRIs, are settled in other countries. Educated people from our country are going to foreign universities, doing MBA there, and coming back. We welcome them.

At the same time, in the field of market, once we have entered the WTO, we cannot object, we cannot oppose and we cannot protest the entry of the FDI in the retail market. There are many advantages.

The UPA Government is fully aware of the issues involved. According to my information, it has decided that no FDI will be allowed in the retail sector except in single brand product retailing. I am sure about it. In this very House, the hon. Minister of Commerce has given a detailed reply on this very subject and, right now also, the Government of India is discussing the whole issue of FDI in the retail sector. I request those who are criticising the entry of FDI in the retail sector only on the political ground that let us be very responsible. Certain policy matters of economy should not be changed with the change of Government. It was during 1991-95 that the Government of India became party to the global economy. The WTO and other agreements were signed by the then Government of India. It was followed, for another six years, by the NDA Government. They were part and parcel of the said economy. Now, the UPA Government has come. They are also continuing it. So, there should be consistency, and there should be continuation. In this august House, we have had a discussion on VAT. Some State Governments which belong to different political parties -- I would not like to quote their names to create any controversy -- have not implemented VAT. We were informed that except two States, Uttar Pradesh and Tamil Nadu, all have implemented VAT. Only two States have not implemented it. All other States have appreciated and implemented VAT. The Central Government has given an assurance that any loss on account of introduction of VAT will be compensated. This is the assurance given by the Central Government. Similarly, on the issue of the FDI in retail, one need not worry. The Government is fully aware of the risk to the domestic retailer, and it will see that they are not annihilated from the market. With these words, I conclude my speech and request my friends, who are opposing FDI into retail for the sake of opposition, to be more responsible. Thank you, Sir. (Ends)

0 ֮ (ָ Ϥ) : ֮־֤ ֳ֯ן ֮ ׾ֵ ָ և ֕ ߅

ֳ֯ן : ִֵ ױ , it had to be taken up immediately after it.

0 ֮ : ֵ և ֕ ֟ ִֵ ֤ פ ֵ, ֮֟օ ߴ֮, ӡ ӓ ؙ և , ו ֕ ֤־ ֵ

֕ ӡ ( ֻ ֣) : ֯ ӟָ֕ , ֯

0 ֮ : ֛ ֮֟ ֟ ֵ

ֻ ֣ : ׻֋ (2 ָ )

SC/2.05/20

0 ֮ : ߴ֮, ֯ ׾ֵ ֮ ֮֟ ֕ ָ ִֵ ָ ָ ׮ ֻ ִ֮ ֻ , ָ֤֮ ֤״ֵ Ӳ׬֟ ־ֻ ־ֻ ִ ֤ ̤ؕ ־ֻ , ׻֋ ָ և ֣ ׾ָ֓ ׾ָ֓ ֤ ן ׮֬Ը ָָ

ֳ֬ (0 ..׸֮) ߚ߮

֣ ֮ ו֮ ־ã , ׸ִ ֋ , ֟ߕ ״ֻ ִ ֕ ֲ ׮־ ֕ -߮ ֻ ֓ ָ ߆և ׸ - ֛ ָ ֻ -߮ ֻ ֟ ̸ ֮ ָ ִ֮֮ߵ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֲ ׾֢ ӡ , ֲ ߆և ׸ ן ߅ ֤ ָ ִ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ, ֕ ׾֢ ӡ , ׾֢ ӡ , ֲ ߆և ׸ ֮ ִ֯ פ օ ױ , ֛ ֵֿ ֟ ָ ֵ ֟Դ֮ ֕ ӡ, ׾֢ ӡ, ֮֮ߵ Ϭִ֮ӡ ֣ ָ ׸ ߆և ֺ ֮ ֮֮ߵ Ϭִ֮ӡ 100 ןֿ֟ ֮ ֮ ֵ ֮ օ ֟ ָ , ֮ ֮ , ֮ , ׾֮֫ ֌ ָ ֵ ֛ߋ ָָ ̴֮ ֓ ֵ ֵ ָ ֟Դ֮ ן֯ ָ ֵ֮ פ օ ֮֟ ֋ 㴲և ָ ׬־֮ , ָ ֻ ָߵ ׬־֮ , ֮ ׸ ߆և ׾ָ օ ןִ ָ , Ù ו ָ ֻ ָߵ ßָ ָ ׾ָ֓ ֵ ..(־֮֬)..

֮ ֻ ӛ : ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ ן , ֯ ־Ԯן ֛ߋ ־ ֡ , ֡ ׸ ߆և ,

0 ֮ : ֻ ..(־֮֬).. ֻ

֮ ֻ ӛ : ׻֋ ߕ ֡ օ

0 ֮ : ׮־ ߕ ™ , ׮׿֟ ӟ 㴲և ָ ׬־֮ ן׮׬ ֳ ™ ֟ ֤ ֮ ֮ օ Ͽ ָ ָ ֯ ָ ָ -י ֲ - ֮֯ ֮ - ָ ֵ֤ ֻ օ ׮ֵ֤ ֟ ֤ ֲ ןֵ ֻ , ֲ ֕ 15-20 ֻ ִֵ ֵ , ׾ָ֓ ִ ֮ , ָ ? ו ָ ֻ , ß ? ָ ִ ָ ֺ ָ ? ևֻ ݻֻև֮ ׻ פ ֵ ֮ ָ߱ ִ ׸֟Ԯ , ָ օ ׮ֵ ִִ , ֯ ִ֮ ׮־ , ִ ָ ִ֣ , ָ ֵ֟ ֟ ֛ ֳ ָ ֟ ֳ ֳꌟ , ֛ ß ִ֮ ״ֻօ ־ ָ ִ֮ ß ״ֻ֮ ֣-֣ ֋ ָ ָ֯ , ֬׮ ߅ ן׸ ִ ֮ ֛ ָ , ֮ ™ ֛ , ָ ß ִ ״ֻօ ָ ֤ ֳ ״ֻօ ָ ֟ ֵ (2 ָ ֿ:)

ASC-RSS//2.10/2P

. ֮ (֟) : ֲ ֟ ֟ ֓ , ֟ ֣ ׮ָֿ ֣ ֟ ֟ ִõ ? ָ־ ו ָ֯ , ֯ ׬ ָ ֻ ֻ Ӿ ãׯ֟ Ӥ ֻ ֮֟ walmart ׬ ֛ ָ ׻ֻ֮ ֮ ֹãֻ Ӿ ֵֻ ֆ ָ Փֻ Ӿ ֻ֓, ָӓֻ ߸ Դ ã֮ ִ֮ ֵ ? ִ֟ ֵ օ ֮ ִ ? ֱ ֲ֤ ֻ ֜ ׾ָ֓ߵ ֟ ? ָ ֛ ֤֤ ִ ָ֯ ָ ӓ ߬ פ ָ ֻ ֣ ָ ֟ ֮ ׻ֵ ֋ ֣ ֣ ֻ, , - ֲ ִֵ ֋, ܵ ָ֯ ָ ׮ֳԸ , ֟ ֤ ֲ ׬ ָ ״ֻ ֟ ָ ״ֻ , -ֻ ֕ ָ ׻֋ ִ ֻ ֟ ֟ ִ ֟ , ִ֮ ָ ָ ִ֕ ֵ ָָ և ֲ ݻֻև֮ , ֲ և  ֮ ֮ , ׾ָ֓ ׻ֵ ֋? ֮ , ֮ , ָ ֮ ? ֓ ֚ ָ פ ד֋ , ֤ ..(־֮֬).. ָ ׻״֙ , ֤ ֛ ֋, ָ , ֯ ִ֮ ֮֟ ָ ָ ׻ֵ ֋ ãן ? ָ ״׻ֵ֮ ָ ֮ ָ ֮ ָ ֋, ָ ֮ ֺ ֯ ֋ ָ walmart ָ ֮-֮ ֮ ָ ׬ ֲ֤ ָ - ߲ , ִ ׸ , ָ ָ 8300 ֋ , וִ ֱ 10195 ִ 8300 ָ ֻ 10195 ִ ֮֟ ֻ ָ, ׌ ָ 75 ָ ָ ָ ֲֻ֟ ָ ߕ Ùә ײ ֻ 75 ָ ִ ״ֻ ִ ֟ ֵ ֵ 80 ָ ׌ displace ֮ 80 ָ displace 10195 ִ , ֵә ָ ? ֯ ָ ֜ ? ױ walmart ָ , ֛ ׸ ָ , ֵֻֻ ֜ ׌ ׻֋ , , ֛ ֻ ֜ ׌ ׻֋ , ׻֋ ֮֮ ֺ օ ֛ ָ ֡ ָ ֜ ֕ ֮ ִ , ָ ָ ״ֻ߅ ָ ׮ֵ ֕ ױ ָ ? ָ ִ֟ ִ ײֻ ָ displace , ׾ãׯ֟ ָ ֛ ֤֤ ָ ָ 4 13 ӕ ֻ֟ ָ ֯ Ӥ 80 ܵ 6 ֋߅

(ֿ: 2Qָ)

NB/2Q/2.15

. ֮ (֟) : ӕ ֋ ־, ו ֯ under-employed , unemployed , ָ ֵ , ֵ , ֵ , וִָ ָ ״ֻ? 60 ֻ ָ ֋, ָ ָָ , ָ ָָ , ָָ , ֟ ָ և ׾ָ֓ 60 ֻ ֤ ָ ãן ֮ , ָ ״ֻ? ֕ ָ ֋ ֛ ָ ָ ָ ۠ ֋, ָ ״ֻ, ׻֋ ֻ ֋, FDI ָ ׻ֵ ? , , ָ , ָ, ָ ֋ ָ ֟ , ֮ ֻ֟ ֮ ֣ ָ ִ ָ ֟ ֻ , grocer shop ֻ , ו Mom & Pop Shop ֯ , , ֮ ֻ , ֮ ׯ֙ ִ ? ָ ֯ efficiency ֮֜ , ׯ֔ 50-60 ֻ ֮ ׯ֔ 15-20 ֻ ֮ ָ֤֮ , ־ֵ efficiency ֜֋? ֮, ָ֬ ָ ֻ ֵ ֮ ֵ ? ָ Ծ־ã ׯ֔ 15-20 ֻ , ֲ ֮ ֮֋ Walmart ֮ ֵ ֮ ׻ֵ , ֲ ß֮ ָ ָߕ ֕ ? ׬ ߴָ ֻ ׻֋ ָ ״ֻ, ִ֟ ִ ֣ , ֯ ֛ ֣ ׮ֵ , ֋ , ָ ֵ ָָ ִִ ױ , ָ֯ ֻ֟ ָ

ֳ֬ , ֯ ֟ ו֮ ־ã ֻ , ãן 30 ֻ ו֮֟ ֮ , ו֮֟ grocery shops , ֕ ִ ֻ 17 ןֿ֟ ֓ , ֲ ֲֵ և ױ ִ ֮ 1982 1992 ֮ 37 ןֿ֟ ֮ Ӥ և ֟ ֮ ֻ 10-12 ֻ ֻ 3,500 ֮ ִ ֓, ֲ ֮ ֲֵ ֋߅ ֛ ׾ָ ֣-֣ , ָ , ִԮ ? ֮֯, ִԮ, ׸ ߕ ׻֋ ֮ ֮֋ , retail trade ׾֤ ׮־ ִ֮ ָ ֵ? ֛ ׾֟ ׿ִ Ծ־ã ִ֣ ָ ִ ֣ ֯ ևԻ , ֮ ֮֮ ֛, ִ ׻֋ ״׮Ù ֮֮ ֛ ևԻ Restrictive law for retail trade ֮ ֵ, ֮? ָ ֲ , , , ו ֯ ִ֮ ֮ օ Walmart ֮ ֛ ָ complex ֮, וִ ֮֯ 500-700 ֮ , , environmental ֟ߕ , ֵԾָߵ ֟ߕ ? ֯ ֵ֟ , , ֵԾָ ֺ ֲָ ߅ ֛-֛ ֟ ו ִֵ Walmart ֮ ָ Mall shops ָ ֟ , stampede ֟ ևԻ ִ֮ ִõ , ӛ׿ֵ ִ֮ ִõ Malls ߓ ֮, 10-12 ߙ ָ ֮߅ restrictions ֋ ׻֋ ָ ־ã֋ ׮ֵ ֕ ֮ ָ ֵ, ֮ ֮ ׻ֵ WTO Ӥ ֵ, ֮ ֻ֟ ֮ ׻ֵօ 2R/AKG ָ ֿ:

AKG/2R/2.20

. ֮ (֟) : ֺ ֕ ָָ , ָ ֕ ָָ , ֵֿ , ֲ ׾ֿ ׸ ֛ chains ׾ָ , ָ ָ ֻ֟ ׻֋ ֯ ֋ ִ ™ , ָ , ֵԾָߵ ־ֻ օ

־ ß ִ , ִ ֵ ß ꅠ ֤ ֲ ִ֙ ֮֕, ָ, , ׯ֔ ֻ և ߮ ֋ , 12 և 2005 ֋ , ֮ ׸ value for money פ , ֙, wallet 70 ָ ֟ , 17 ָ ָߤ ֟ ֟ ֯ 3 ָ ֟ , 2 ָ ֟ , ָ ֤ ֳ ? ֯ ß ״ֻ, ֯ ֋ꅠ ֵ֟ , ֯ ֟ , ֋ ִ֙ ß֮ ֯ ߮ ֮ ֯ ֯ ֮ Ù ߮ ֮ Ù ָ ߮ Ù , ִ֙ ָߤ, ß ָ ׮ֳԸ ִ֙ ֮ chains ֙ profit ׻֋ ֟ ֛ ֻֻ֮߮, ֋, ֳ ׻֋ ֋߅ ָ ׻֋ ֋, ָ development ׻֋ ֋߅ manifesto, objective memorandum ׻ ו ֋, development ߅ ָ ֟ anti-development ߅ ֟ ß , ß ! ß ָߤ ׮ֵ ָ ֯׸ ׮ִֵ ß ָߤ ֱ ֆꅠ ֛ ֻֻ߮ ֲ ֋, chains , ? , ױ ֱ ֋? ָ ß֮ , ִ ֟ , investment ratio ֲ֤ß ״׻ֵ֮ ָ ֮ ָ ѓ ״׻ֵ֮ ָ profit ֟ ׾ֿ ֋ ״׻ֵ֮ ָ investment ִ ѓ ״׻ֵ֮ ָ profit ß ֱ ? ֮ repatriation ? ֮ power ß ָߤ ? ֮ , ו ѓ ײ׻ֵ֮ ָ turn-over , ֣ ָ ֤ bargain , they have the bargaining power. Bulk , ִ , , ֟ ꅠ - ׸ , ֟֟ ֤ ָ֮ , ߸-߸ 4-5 ׮ֵ ֣ monopoly ֟ monopoly ִ֣ ? ֮ monopoly ֮ , ֻܵ ֮ monopoly ֮ monopolies ֮֋ ֮ Competition Commission ֵ֮ ִ competition 2-4 ׮ֵ ״ֻ ֮ -ָ ֻ֟ ß֮ ִ ֤ ß ״ֻօ ָ ß ״ֻ, 2 ֻ, 4 ֻ, 5 ֻ ֤ ֲ ß֮ ןï֨ ִ֯ ֋, ױ ִ ֿ ֜ ֋ꅠ ֻ ֱ ִ֮ ֛ chains ״ֻ , ߸-߸ 40 ָ ֤ ߴ֟ , ׮ò֟ shops , ו֮ ׻֋ uneconomical , inefficient ױ ֛ efficiency ֋օ , ֋, ֮ ׻֋ ֋, ִ ָ֕ ֮ ִ computers , ִ ָ-ָ ־ã֋ , ׾ָ֓ efficiency 16 ֤״ֵ ߾֮, efficiency, ׻֋ efficiency, ֤״ֵ ׻֋ efficiency? ֯ manifesto , וִ ִ ֤ ֳ ֟ ֟ , common man ֟ ֟ , ׻֋ efficiency ִ ꌿ֮ ׻֋, ׸ targets , income level , ָߤ? (2/֋֋ ָ ֿ:)

2S/HMS-RG/2.25

0 ֮ (֟) : ִ֮ ָߤ, ׮ ֯ ִ֟ ß֮ ֳ ֮ ׻֋ ? , 70 ֤ ֕ ß֮ ֟ , ָ ֲ֤ 68 ָ ֲ֤ 70 ָ ? -־ã ָ ֮ , ׻֋ ֮ , ֵ֤ ֮ ? , ֤ ִ ן׮׬֟ 70 ֤ ָ ׮ ֟ ָ ׻֋ , ןֵ ֮ ? ֛ ֣ ֛ ן , ָ ӳ߸ ׾ָ֓ ױ ֮ ֙ ־ֻ ֵ ָ ׻֋ ӳ߸֯ ׾ָ֓ ־ֻ ֮֋ , ֳ , ֮ ?

֣ ֯ ִ֮ ֮ ֟ ߅ ׮ֵ ָ-ָ ִ֮ ״ֻ ָ , ֲ ֜ ֓ ֛ ָߵ ׸֮, ָߵ ֻ־ֵ ָߵ - ײ ֯ ו֮֟ ֛ ״ֻ, ״ֻ ׸ ֟ ևߕ ֮֯ߕ ֮֟ ֮֟ ו֮ ֯֟ ׿ִ ֕ ֯ ֛ ֮֓֯ ֤ פ ֋ ߸-߸ ֤ ֛ ֮֮ ֻ ß֮ , ֋? ֮ ֟ , ֟ , ָ ֻ־ֵ ײ , ָߤ ׻֋ ֲ֕ ߮ ֛ ָ ֻ ֻ ֮ ӱ֮ ׸ ׾֮֯ ױ ֯ ֛ ֋

֮ ָ օ ֯ ִ ֤ ֮ ָ ֋߅ ֮ ָ ֋, ֛ ָ ֋, ߟ ָ ֋߅ ֯ ֙ ֮֟ ߮-ָ ֻ ׸ ׾֮֫ 0 ו (ֵ ִ ָ ) ֋ Ùֻ ֮֯ ֟ օ ֟ ֯ ֟ ? Ùֻ ֮֯ ־ֻ , ֮֯ ־ֻ ױ ֙ ֵ֟߅ פ ֮ ׻֋ ׮߅ ׻ֵ ? , ָ֕ ָߤ , ֟ ֟ ָ֕ ױ ֺ ? ֺ ֲ ֟ ֻ ֲ ָ֕ ։ ֮ ֺ ߅ ֲֻ֟ ֓ ֓ , ָ ֓ , ָ ָ֕ և ߕ և , ֵ ֻ ֵ ? ֺ , ֟ , ׻֋ ָߤ ֯ ָ և ָ ֮ ֮ ֺ ׮֬Ը ? ָ֕ ָ ֺ ֟֋, ָ֕ ֮ , ֟֋? ָ֕ ֮ , ֟֋? ָ֕ ֮ , ֟֋? ֯ ־ã ָ , ־ֻ ־ֻ ֳ֬ , ִו ׸ִ , ָ և ׾ָ֓ ֮ ٣ ׸ִ , ָ߅ ָ ָ ֟ ׮ ֵ ֮֟ ֮ ׾ñ ׸ִ

ָָ ֳ ٙ ׾ִ֮ϟ ׮־ ָ ֵ֕ ֮֜ ָ ֟ և ָ ׸ִ ָ ָ֟ ױ ׮֯֙ ׿ ֋օ , ֟ ־ã ӟָ™ߵ ßָ ָ ָ ֋ ָ ֯֙߿֮ , ָ ױ֋ ֜ -օ (2/ߋ־ ָ ֿ:)

KS-PSV/2T/2.30

0 ֮ (֟) : ִ֮ 2003 Cornell University ׸֓ ָָ ֮ ײ֮ ד־ 00ָ0 ޵ִ :

A Cornell University research paper (2003), after studying the impact of entry of foreign retailers in Latin American and Asian countries has inter-alia mentioned the following comments: "It is likely that retail modernisation will also have negative consequences for traditional retailers, producers, and distributors. As modernisation serves to concentrate a fragmented food system, it is also conceivable that eventually a concentrated food sector would result in higher food costs and less choice". A key note speech at an International Conference on "Supermarkets and Agricultural Development in China: Opportunities and Challenges" at Shanghai in 2004, has referred to the impact of the entry of leading marketing chains in developing countries, leading to "shifts towards centralised procurement system (shifting from traditional wholesale markets to use of large distribution centers); shift towards cross-border sourcing; shift towards specialised/dedicated wholesalers; use of multinational global logistics and the shift to preferred supplier systems". There is also a mention that "Product quality and safety" are used as "competitive arms against small shops and markets". It has also concluded that the "resultant requirements are often tough for small farms and firms to meet, and there is evidence of exclusion of these players." A year 2000 study by the US Centre for Applied Economic Research, focusing on Wal-Mart found that there is a "strong impact on small businesses in rural communities, on employment rates, sales and the environment of small towns through the effects of neighbouring `big box' retail chains. "Studies have shown that small towns lose up to 47% of the retail trade after the Wal-Mart town nearby. (Time-bell) "The new position of powerful mega-retail chains, discounters or otherwise, was not to augment but to complete. Obviously, this puts the small retailers at a disadvantage, specially as these wholesalers lose more and more business".

׸ ... ָ, ֯ ׾ֵ ֻ ׻֋ ־֕ ָ ֓ ִ ִֵ ֲӤ ...(־֮֬)...

ߟִָ : և ֻ ֟ ָ ...(־֮֬)...

0 ֮ : , ...(־֮֬)... ֮ , ֲ ...(־֮֬)... ֲ ֯ , ֮ ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIAN): Joshiji, others also have to speak. Please conclude.

0 ֮ : , , ֯ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ָ ߸-߸ ...(־֮֬)... 挻ߵָ ָ ֮֯ , ָ ...(־֮֬)... ָ ߸-߸

ָ ֻ ӛ ׸ , ֻ ӛ כױ׮ֿ֮ , ֻ ӛ ֲֻ֟ ? ָ ֮ և000 , ו -׾ֻօ ׾ֻ ӛ ָ ײ ֛ ײ ֵ ֛ ִ ׾ֻ , ׾ֻ ָ , ִ ָ ֛ ״ֻ ? ֵ֯׻ ָ ׮Ե פ ׾ֻ ׾ֻ , ָ ׻֕ ֮ ֻ ֵօ ־ֻ ֯ ӛ ֮ , ӛ ֮ ׮ֵ, ֟ ? ֕ ֮ , ôי ֮ , ׻֋ -  ôי ֮ , ָ ֮ ӛ ׻ֵ ֮֋, wafers ֮֋, ֯ ? , ֮֋ ꌙ׮ ֮֋, ֯ ? ֮֯ ֱ ֮ ֮֟ , ֯ ֮ ָ ٙև ֯ ӛ , ֮ ֵԯ ָ ֮֯ ֻ ӛ כױ׮ֿ֮ ֻ ӛ ֲֻ֟ ? ӛ ֲֻ֟ ֻ ӛ ֲֻ֟ ? - ߕ ֋ ߕ ֋, כև , ֯ ևև כև ֮֯ ֕֟ , ֱ ָ֟ chains ֮, ߕ ֮ ִ ֋߅ ָ Ùָ ֮ ֵ, ױ ִ ֮ פ ߅ ָ ֲָָ , ׻ֻ֮ ֮ , ֤ ֮ ִ֟

(2/000 ָ ֿ:)

2U/klg-tdb/2.35

0 ֮ ߠ (֟) : ׻֋ ֯ ׮־ ֻ ӛ ֲֻ֟ ? ָ ֲ־ֻ ϵ ֯ ֤ ֮֟ ? ϴ-ֻ ? ֟ ֱ

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIAN): Joshiji, actually, your time was 31 minutes, and that is over. ...(Interruptions)...

0 ֮ : ֮֟ ־ֻ ֻ

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: But, the problem is, the total time is 2 hours 30 minutes. The number of speakers is...(Interruptions)...: No, no. There are other Members who have to speak on this. The total time allotted to it is only 2 hours 30 minutes.

0 ֮ : 70-80 ־ֻ .. (־֮֬).. ֓ ֟ ָ ׯ֔ ֡ ֟ ֕ ןִ פ

ֳ֬ : ֋, the problem is, the total time is 2 hours 30 minutes. The number of speakers is...(Interruptions)...

0 ֮ : ֻ , ֓ԋ ֤

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: How many more minutes would you take? Please conclude. You have made all important points. ...(Interruptions)... Joshiji, please conclude in two-three minutes. ...(Interruptions)... I am helpless. ...(Interruptions)... I have to allow everybody.

0 ֮ : ֳ֬ , ֯ ׾ִ֮ϟ ִ ֲӤ ד֟ ֯ ׾ֵ , ִֻ , ֲ ֟

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: The total time is only 2 hours 30 minutes. Every party has to be given a chance to speak. ...(Interruptions)...

0 ֮ : ָ, ֵ ָָ ִֻ , ֵ ָ֤֮ ָ ֕ϯ֟ ? ֕ ֵօ ׻֋ ־ã ? ֕ ֵօ ֕ ݵ ãן ֣ ָ ևԙ ꌙ ߯߆ ָ ִ ? ? ֲ ֯ ֮ ֤ , ׻֙ , Ù ױ֋ ֜֋Ӆ ׻֋ ָ , ֮ ֤ , ֮ ׻֙ ֮ և ߓ , ֲ ֙߿֮ ֛ , ֣ ָ ׻֋ , ָ֤֮ ֣-֣ ֮ ֤ ׻֋ ךև ִ֮ ײօ ׾ִ֮ϟ ו פ , פ ׾֤ ִ֮ ָ ß ֋ ָ ֤ ֋ ֻ ׸ -߯ ׻ ָ ִ ֱ ֻ ӛ ֻ ֻ ִ ֟ ײֻ ߕ , ו ִ֬ ִִ ןֵ Ծ־ã ֮ ß ־֮ ß ָ ָ ֻ ֻ Ծ־ã , ׾׮ ֻ , ™ ֟ ו֋ ָߵ ׮ֵ ֋, ָ , ָ ֬׮ ֮֮ ׻֋, ׬ ֻ ֮֮ ׻֋ ָָ ֵ ִ ֤ , ָ ™ ׿ֿ ֋, ו֮֟ ָ ׌ ׾ָ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIAN): Now, Shri Sitaram Yechury.

SHRI SITARAM YECHURY (WEST BENGAL): Sir, how much time?

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN : Actually, the time is eight minutes. ...(Interruptions)... But, try to conclude within that. ...(Interruptions)...

ߟִָ : ֲ ָ

SHRI PENUMALLI MADHU: Please speak in English.

SHRI SITARAM YECHURY: Yes, I will come to English. 0 ֮ , ֯ ׻֋ , ֯ ֯ ֟ ֮ ׻֋ ֻ ӟָ֕ , ֯ և ֻ ׾ָ֓ , ֲ ֯ ָָ ֲ ֟ , ָ ִ֣Ԯ ֻֻ ֟օ

0 ֮ : ֻܵ ִ֣Ԯ

ߟִָ : ײֻ, ֻ ֕ ֮֯ ָ ݵԴ ֮և, ִ֣Ԯ and the reason -- since you have asked me to speak in English -- Sir, why I am rising to express my concern and urge the Government not to proceed with this process of opening up the retail trade sector to the FDI is because it has very serious consequences and implications not only for the economy but also for the people and the future of the country. Why I say this, Sir, is that the FDI in the retail sector must be distinguished from the FDI in the manufacturing sector. In the manufacturing sector, we, the CPI(M), have been saying very clearly that FDI that comes into our country will have to satisfy three conditions. (Contd. by 2w)

kgg-aka/2w/2.40

SHRI SITARAM YECHURY (CONTD.): These conditions are that first, it should augment our productive capacities; second, it should upgrade India and Indian economy technologically; third, it should enlarge employment opportunities. If these conditions are met--some people from the Treasury Benches have alluded by implication that we are also welcoming the FDI in the States where we have our Governments, but that welcome is on the basis of these three conditions and we would want this Government, Sir, also to publicly announce to the world that India will welcome FDI coming in if you accept these three conditions and that will be good for the country and also for the future of the UPA Government. That is what...(Interruptions)

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: You are giving an example of West Bengal...

SHRI SITARAM YECHURY: No, because there was a reference made. (Interruptions) I am giving you the example of West Bengal because...

AN HON. MEMBER: Otherwise you will meet the same consequences... (Interruptions)

ֵָ : ߅ ..(־֮֬)..

ߟִָ : , (Interruptions)

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIAN): If you get diverted by these comments, then you will be losing time. So, stick to your point.

SHRI SITARAM YECHURY: Sir, the only point I am saying is, the FDI, on these three conditions is useful for our country and we can also benefit from it. In retails, apart from these three conditions, which the Government has not yet announced for the rest of the country while we are doing it in the States where we are in Government, but for the rest of the country, if they do it, it will be good. But in the retail sector, opening up of FDI will directly affect your existing employment--forget enlarging it further. In the National Common Minimum Programme, we have laid emphasis on the fact of enlarging employment opportunities and by adopting any move which will shrink employment opportunities, I think, we are going directly contrary to our own spirit that is there and, therefore, that is the first reason why I would like to urge this Government not to proceed with this.

The second reason why I would like to buttress my argument on the basis of the fact is that the retail trade, Sir, today accounts for about 10-11 per cent of our country's GDP. It is, by far, after agriculture, one of the largest contributors to the country's GDP. And, actually, the total retail trade within the unorganised sector accounts to over 90 per cent of your workforce. In this situation, while you have a situation where in the organised there has been a decline in employment, which the Planning Commission's Mid-Term Review has clearly stated, the absorption of employment and particularly in the rural areas for people to be employed has come mainly from the retail sector. So, the retail sector acts, also, as a social security net. It is not merely in terms of employment which it generates, but it also acts as a social security net for the rural areas and curtailing that will have a very adverse impact on the rural areas in our country.

Nextly, what I would like to emphasise in this House, through you, Sir, is the fact that we have an entity called "own account enterprise". Own account enterprises, actually, are non-agricultural enterprises, and own account enterprise of this nature fall within the realm of retail trade. In the rural areas, it is 42.5 per cent and in the urban areas, it goes up to 34.3 per cent. Of all these facts taken into account, what is the net result? Today, you have 7.36 million workers in these non-agricultural establishments of which 10.3 per cent of the employment is in the non-agricultural establishments in the rural areas and 17.4 per cent in the urban areas. 10.3 per cent in the rural areas and 17.4 in the urban areas, and this is the workforce size that is employed in the sector. Anything that you do to this particular sector that is going to shrink employment base will have a very, very bad effect that will fall on our work force, and this I am saying, precisely, because you have in India, today, 54 per cent of our population living below the age of 25. It is this youth between the ages of 18 and 25. If you are not able to provide them employment and a future contribution to our economic well being, it is this youth which, instead of becoming an asset, can turn itself into a liability for the country. Instead of turning this into an asset by providing greater employment, if you are going to make victims of social conditions for which there is no other alternative for them, that will be the worst thing that will happen to the future of India. (contd. by 2x)

KLS/2x-2.45

SHRI SITARAM YECHURY (CONTD): Therefore, I want this to be kept in mind. Secondly, the argument that is often given that if you have -- Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi touched many of these aspects and I would not repeat them -- an expansion of these multinational corporations coming into your retail trade, with your big departmental stores, we are often told that that will also lead to greater employment generation. About this I would like to inform the House, Sir, on the basis of the calculations that have been undertaken in our country -- If you want I can give you the details, but since I am sure you will ring the bell, so I am not going into those facts -- I would only put conclusions that the study has come forward with, that the annual turnover per employee in Wall-Mart International Departmental Stores-- this is from the Wall-Mart study -- is nearly 95 times that of the average annual turnover per employee in the Indian retail sector -- 95 times is the annual difference. So, in other words, every one person employed in Wall-Mart, 95 people are employed in our country already and that if you replace this retail trade with that sort of departmental stores, you just look at the scale at which you are displacing people. This, as I said, will have its negative consequences, and, therefore, I urge the Government to reconsider if they are planning to go ahead in this direction. There is one another important issue, Sir. One is the question of contribution of this sector to our GDP and the second question is the contribution of this sector to our employment. On both these scores, opening up this sector for foreign direct investment will have adverse implications and that will not be beneficial for the country. It will be worse for the country and its people. Therefore, on these two counts, we should reject it. But you come to the third aspect and the third aspect has been on the predatory practices of these companies and what we have said here, Sir. Sometimes, argument is given that when you have these big departmental stores, our farmers will gain because they will buy their produce and on the basis of that our farmers' income will increase, and, therefore, it is good for us. Now what does the FAO study tell us? I am quoting from a study of the FAO. It says, "Farmers experience many problems in supplying supermarkets in Asia and in some cases this has already been reflected in fairly rapid declines in the numbers involved. As the companies tend to de-list suppliers who do not come up to expectations in terms of volume, quality and delivery." And the FAO study tells you that the farmers who are contracted by these stores often are at the receiving end and instead of their incomes growing up, they tend to have income decline and future insecurity in terms of their produce being sold. This is what FAO study tells you, Sir. Further, I would like to only expose this point that this is an illusion created that if these big stores buy, our producers in the third world countries who are producing raw materials will gain more. Now, what is the same study tells you, Sir, is that coco farmer in Ghana gets only 3.9 per cent of the typical milk chocolate bar while the retail margin is around 34 per cent. Banana producer gets around 5 per cent of the final price of the banana while 34 per cent goes into your retail market. Even with jeans, which is one of the things that is sold through these high end stores, the manufacturing worker who produces actually gets 12 per cent of the total sale price of that garment. Now, this is the exploitation of the workforce that takes place. So, it is not that because of these big chains, the workers are going to gain much. Unfortunately, many of you in the morning when you go for a walk, you wear Nike shoes and the Nike shoes' cost of production is five dollars, that is what the worker who produces it gets, and it is sold anywhere close to, depending on in which country you are -- between 50 dollars and 100 dollars. So, these are the margins that are there in the retail trade and the people who are at the receiving end are the working people for whom there are depressed wages and depressed living conditions. Many more of them are out of employment altogether. So, it is these practices that are there which we should also keep in mind. It is not as though that because of these stores coming in -- Dr. Joshi talked about culture that they bring around, that is true ...(Time-bell) I will just conclude. the sort of culture that they bring about, I really want to tell you that it is not only a question of advertising, with due respect, you do not mind, if I quote Karl Marx here who has been voted as intellectual of the second millennium, Sir, I hope you do not object to it... (Contd by 2Y)

-KLS-SSS-MCM/2Y/2.50

SHRI SITARAM YECHURY (CONTD.): But he said one thing very, very significant. He said this time, i.e., capitalism produces not only the object for the subject but it also produces the subjects for the object and it is the subjects that are being produced. And we all have been produced as subjects for purchasing what they produce as the objects and it is no longer satisfying my need that they are producing, that I am being produced to satisfy their needs. It is that culture which, I think, is completely alien to absolute human civilisation and civilisational ethos and that is something that we will have to bear in mind. Finally, Sir, I only urge the Minister and the Government that let us not open up the retail sector to FDI through back door methods. Why I am saying back door is because you have allowed it in the wholesale sector. The earlier Government allowed it. But that in itself has the seepages, through which, it is entering the retail sector. Now, Sir, the largest eatable that is sold in London today, I believe, is your chicken tikka sandwich by Marks and Spencer. Marks and Spencer is selling sandwiches. Marks and Spencer sells you clothes. It sells you electronic goods. It sells you everything. If there is a single brand coming, from sandwiches to shoes to clothes to electronic goods, it is all Marks and Spencer brand. So if a single brand also comes in with such a large canvas, then, you are virtually opening up the FDI in the retail sector in the name of single brand. You are actually, virtually opening it. Therefore, keeping all this in mind Sir, I seriously urge the Government to sincerely consider this aspect that let us not take decisions that are violative of the very National Common Minimum Programme on the basis of which this Government exists. Let us not violate our promises to the aam admi that we have given that we will generate greater employment and improve his livelihood. Let us also protect our domestic produce, our mom and dad shops as they are called, our retail trade on which crores of people survive and in the interest of India, in the interest of its people, I think, this policy direction must be reversed and the Government must take it back in the interest of our country. (Ends)

֮־ָ ֻ ֻ (ָ Ϥ) : ֮֮ߵ ֳ֬ , ָ֯ ִ ָ ֕ ™ߵ ׮ֵ ָ ָ֯ ֲԤ וֿ ׾ֵ ָ֯ ֟ ֮ ֟ ׻֋ ֛ ֳ֬ , ß֮ ֕ ָ֯ 16 ָ֯ ֟ , ָ֯ 00և0 ֋, ָ֯ ֋ ָ֯ ϳ׾֟ , ֑ ϳ׾֟ , ™ߵ ׮ֵ ָ ֋ ֤ ָߤ ß ״ֻ -ֵ֮ , ִԮ , ֮֯ , ֋, ָ ֳ ֮ ׻֋ ׻֋ ָ֯ ֟ ꇴ֮ ï™ ֮֟ ™ߵ ׮ֵ ָ ָ֯ ϳ׾֟ ߅ ֕ ӡ , ָ פ ™ߵ ֮ ֟ ׮ָ כÙ߲ ֲ ָߤ Ӥ ? ß֮ ߾ָ כÙ߲ ֲ ָߤ Ӥ ָ ß֮ ߾ָ כÙ߲ ֻ ָߤ ֵ֮ ִԮ ֲ ֋ ָ כÙ߲ ָ֯ ϳ׾֟ ? כÙ߲ և ܵ ו֮֟ , ָ ֋? ׻֋ ָ֯ ֟ ֮ , ֻ ־ , ֻ ϴ ֻ ָ ׾֤ ׮ֵ ֋ ָ֯ ֲԤ , ָ֯ ֲԤ ָ ֑ ֲԤ ֛ כִ ָ ֲԤ ꅠ ß ֻ ״ֻօ ֮֮ߵ ֳ֬ , ׸, ׸ ֮ ״ֻօ כ֙ Ù ֵ ׻ ֟ ߅ ֯ ֕Ԯ֠ ? ׸ 60 70 ָ ֕Ԯ ֟ ֮ ֮ ֤ ֟ ? ֮ ײֻ֕, ֮ , ֮ , ָ ֱև , ֮ ֲ ֻ ן֟׻ֵ ָ (2Z ָ ֿ:)

GS-NBR/2.55/2Z

֮־ָ ֻ ֻ (֟) : ֵ? ֳ֬ , ָ֣ ֡ ָ ֵ օ ֯ ֮֟ ָ֣ ֡ ֮ ָ֣ ֵ ֵ ״ֻ פ ֵ 3 ֵ ״ֻ֟ , ֲ ߮ ֟ ָ֓ , ֵ ֟ ָ֓ , ֟ ָ֓ ָ֣ ֵ 2 ֵ פ ֵ 3 ֵ ״ֻ֟ ß֮ ָ֯ ֲ ֱ ָ ִ ֻ ֵ, ֮ ֻ ӛ ֜ פ, ӛ׿ֵ ֵ, ӛ׿ֵ ӛ ֜ פ ״ֻ֢ ݻ ֵ, ָ ï֟ ִ֕ ֮ ׻ֵօ ָ ß֮ ֱ ָ, ׾֤ ָ֯ ִ ֵ ӓ ֵ ָ ߮ 1700 ֵ ֻ ֻ ֱ ָ ֮־ָ, ֮ïן ߮ ֜ ֵ ֚ ֮ ߮ ֱ ָ ֟ ֱ ָ ָ֯ ֲ ָ ָ֯ ֟ , ß֮ ֯׸ ֱ ָ ִ ׻֋ ß֮ ־ ß֮ ָ֯, ß֮ ו-ו ֵ, ָ߿ ֵ , ֮֯ ֵ , ִԮ ֵ , ׸ ֵ , ָ֯ ָ ֮ ֮և ָ֯ ָ ϵ ׻֋ ֟ և ׾֤ ׮ֵ ֵ, ß ִ֮ ß֮ ߅ ß ִ֮ ß֮ , ß֮ ß׮ֵ ִ ߅ ׻֋ ׾֤ ׮ֵ ֮, ß֮ ָ ֮ ֲָָ

ֳ֬ , ָ ֜ ֤ ֜ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֵ֟ ֮֯ ָ ֲӤ ׾֤ ׮ֵ ֵ, ֻ ß֮ ֤ ֻ ָߤ, ׾֤ ֻ ָߤ, ֟ և ? ָ ֟ ֟ , ֟ , ׻֋ ֟ ָ ? և ֕ ׾֤ ֵ֮, כ ָ ָ ֮ ֕ ָ ״ֵ , ׻֋ ָ - ֻֆӤ֕ ֛ ִ

֕ ߮ ָָ ֮ ֮ ֜־ ֕ ֯ פ ָ֕ ֻ և, ߮ ִ֮ ָ֕ ֙ ݻ ֵ, ״ֻ ß֮ ߸ִ וֵ, ߸ִ 㻻, և ״ֻ, ߮ ״ֻ, ֛ ״ֻ ߮ ״ֻ, ״ֻ ߮ ״ֻօ ߮ ׯ֔ ֵ , ֛ ֻ ߮ ׯ֔ ֵ , ֮ ֕ ֛֯ וֵ, ָ ֮֮ ׻֋ ׾֤ ׮ֵ ֮ ִס֟ ָ ֵ֜, ָ ֵ֜ ? ӡ ָ ֵ֜? 16 ָ כ֙ Ù ߑ , פ ֮, פ ֛ , ָ ֮։ ֮ 500 Ìֵָ ߙ ֤ ֛ ֳ֬ , ֮ ׸ , 2 Ìֵָ ߙ 25 וֻ - וֻ ָ ӓ-ӓ ֮ ָ֕ ָ ߆և ִס֟ ֵ, ߬ ו֮ رֵ ֮ ֵ , ֟ Ӭ , ִ ֮ , ָ ָ , ֟ Ԯ ָ ֵ, ָ ִ֙ ׮ֵ ß֮ ֤֯ ߅ ֮ ֲֻ֟ ׮ֵ ָ֮ ֱ כ֙ Ù ָ ָ֯ ֛ ֵ, ָ ָ֯ ָ ֵ ָ ֯׸ , ָ߲ ֯׸ - ֮߮ ָ ֓, ִ֙ ֓ , Harrods ֻ ֓ , ױ֓ ֜? ִ֟ ױ֓ ֜߅

ֳ֬ , ™ָ֓ ֜? ֕ ָ ָ ֤ ֻ ָߤ ֟ , ֟ ߠ ֻ ָߤ ֵ (3 ָ ָ)

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