SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (CONTD.): Sir, I feel that there is a talk of labour productivity. Now, the globalisation has brought forward the concept of how much a labour is producing in each and every country. No doubt, in Asian countries, Japan is having so much of dollars; they may be earning about 43.3 dollars as their labour productivity. Indian labour is earning only 3.4 US dollars. But, at the same time, this productivity is now going on increasing. The statistics have to be updated because many software companies are now coming forward; many people are coming to give more wages to the people who are having small skills being developed for them. Therefore, the productivity of the labour in the Indian market is now improving. A lot of improvement is there. Skill is not only getting improved in India but it is also taken away by the other countries, by making labour migrated to the foreign countries. Sir, you know very well that the USA is getting all the skills and the development of the Indian human resources for their development. The scientists, down to the level of the skilled labour, are getting the help of the Indian labourers in a cheap way. But, at the same time, they are developing their economy. Now, the labour force in India, especially, in South India, and more specifically in Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Karnataka, are going to the foreign countries, especially to the Arabian and the Asian countries. They are going there only for earning money for their families. But, at the same time, they should be protected. I have brought one Motion also before this House that when they are going there and they are doing a very risky job, like, constructing buildings, etc., sometimes they sacrifice their own lives, then, their bodies should be brought to their nation, to their country, to their own houses. But, the body is not brought in time. In Arabian countries, they are delaying now. In Asian countries also, they are delaying it. The benefits of these labourers should also be given immediately to their families. This should also be looked after by the Government, especially, by the Ministry of External Affairs. And the Labour Department also should take up the initiative to see when the labour is going there on the labour permit or by some other way, and they are doing some work in foreign countries, they should be protected. Their names should be registered in the Embassy and their security should be protected. Many of the labourers are now in prison in many of the Asian and Arabian countries for very small violations of law in their countries. So, they should be protected and brought back to their nation. They should be made a part of the mainstream of the nation. For this purpose, I request the Government of India to make some efforts. The Labour Ministry should have some discussion with the External Affairs Ministry and the Embassies to see that their labourers are protected. When they are going on the labour permit or any other permit for employment in the foreign countries, they should be made to insure their life and their families should also be protected. For that also, the Government should come forward with more benefits for them. The participation of the Government should also be there for their protection. Sir, many unemployed people are there in our villages. As I have already enunciated, the Government of India has come forward with many programmes, but, even then, many people are migrating. The labour migration is very huge. I can cite the example of even Tamil Nadu where around ten lakh people are migrating every year for getting labour in other States of India as well as in foreign countries. If that is so, how much migration will be there from Bihar or from Rajasthan or from Uttar Pradesh or Madhya Pradesh? Therefore, these people should be totally covered, at least, by statistics. How many people are migrating, there is no perfect statistics in this regard. There should be a perfect system to find out how many people are migrating from one village to another State, how many people are entering into a particular State. Some sort of data collection should be there. Unemployed people can be recruited; they can be trained for that purpose. So, there should be some data. (Contd. by 2b-YSR)


SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (CONTD.): If data are there, the Government can come forward with programmes. Sometimes a National Sample Survey is conducted or sometimes surveys are conducted by journals. We cannot have authenticity on that basis. Migration takes place very often. Due to urbanisation and globalisation, many youth, girls and boys, are coming out of their villages and areas and looking for greener pastures. That is natural. Therefore, when they are coming forward, this workforce should be protected; their lives should be protected; and their health should be protected. For that, I request the Government of India to look into it.

Sir, another point, on which I would like to draw the attention of the Government, is this. Now, the BPOs are coming up. At many places, people are not having the facility of the National Employment Exchange and Compulsory Notification of Vacancies Act, 1959. It is not at all applied on this workforce. Wherever there are employment opportunities, they should indicate that so much of employment opportunities are there and this is the qualification needed. When people are recruited, that should also be intimated to the Government of India according to this Act. Whether this Act is properly implemented or not is the question that has to be answered by the Government of India and also by the State Governments.

Sir, many people are getting recruited. But where are the statistics? How many people are getting employment? How many people are secured?

Sir, in Karnataka, a girl was raped when she was going for night shift in a software company. There was so much of awakening throughout India that people are not secured. Now, law and order problem is like that. So many young people, especially girls, are working in night shifts, whether there is any data for that purpose. Which law says that it should be reported appropriately to the Government of India or to the State Governments? How many people are employed there? How much salary is given? Whether these are minimum wages or whether these are proper wages, according to the international standards.

Sir, in America, a person is paid 100 dollars per day, but if a person is doing the same job in India, he is paid only five dollars. How much difference is there? How much exploitation is there? But we are satisfied when we find that five dollars after converted into our currency value make it a big amount. People say that they are earning Rs.250 or Rs.2,500 or Rs.25,000. This is huge money. We have to think how much skill we are utilising, how much human resources we are utilising, and how much productivity we are giving. But we are happy on one side. There are many software blue chip companies that are the large cap of the share market. How are they earning? They are employing our resources, and they are earning by the conversion of the currency. They are charging the same wages, which are eligible in the U.S.A., but they are paying the minimum to Indian labourers. Indian labourer is very much happy. Our Government is also very much happy that it has earned so much of foreign exchange. But how much of that money is going to be utilised? How much share market is going up because of this money? How much are we taxing? These are the things to be thought about.

Our human resource is very, very excellent in the world. The people are very skilful. They can learn the things very quickly. They have got the skill. We cannot make a European to learn so quickly as an Indian. Indians are very quick to learn the skill or any language. But how much wage are they getting? The Americans cannot learn so quickly. They take a lot of time for learning. Indian labourers are ready to learn. But how much are they earning? This aspect should be looked into.

Sir, I request the hon. Minister to take some more initiatives to see that the enactments, which may be of 1948 or which may be of 1932, should be updated for the purpose of today's life, today's labour, and today's employment. Whether it is misused or under-utilised or whether their energy is totally exploited, that has to be gauged by testing the enactment and also the protection which is already given by our Parliament by making the enactments. (Contd. by VKK/2C)


SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (CONTD.): Sir, I would like to concentrate upon child labour, children in the work. Sir, the Government of India has made a lot of efforts in this. Already, the Constitution of India has been amended. Article 21A gives the right to education, Article 24, prohibition of employment of children in factories etc. and also Article 39 says that the State shall particularly direct the policy towards securing that the health and strength of workers, men and women, and the tender age children are not abused and that citizens are not forced by economic necessity to enter avocations unsuited to their age or strength. Sir, this guarantee is given in the Constitution of India. Whether we are enforcing it and in which way we are enforcing it.

Sir, huge money is spent in every Budget for the protection of children and abolition of child labour. But, at the same time, child labour is continuing. There are many reports at international level to say that India is having child labour even now. Indiraji, as the Prime Minister, had brought the 20-point programme where the bonded labour and child labour were abolished. But, subsequently, in which way we are enforcing it? Even now, we see the child labour is engaged in every industry. Everywhere, we see children being utilised or forced which, in Article 39, already has been described as an abuse and the citizens should not be forced for economic necessity. They are forced by economic necessity to go for jobs. Even in construction work and also in any work in urban areas, you can see that children are engaged. Sir, already, a law is brought by this Government for domestic employment and also for women's employment in that. But, at the same time, whether the enforcement agency is doing it properly. Sir, child abuse is too much. Sex abuse of child is very much. Trafficking is very high.

Sir, as a Committee, we had gone to Goa. In the Supreme Court Judges' Conference, it was said that there plenty of tourists are coming. In the name of tourism, children are being misused for sex. There, the child trafficking is very much in that aspect. But when we asked the CBI, they think that the Government has to come forward to give directions and the CBI should take up the issue. Courts should give directions. Sir, this is a human trafficking. When there is trafficking in drugs, there is an Act which comes into force immediately. The CBI enforces; the agency enforces. The Economic Enforcement Directorate has started to work. But the human beings, children, are abused. Where the activists are working? Where the State Government fails, then the Government of India should step into that place and look after the proper enforcement of the law. Therefore, I request, Sir, that on child labour aspect where the Government of India, especially the UPA Government, has come forward with a lot of propositions, I can see, in many places, children who were already engaged in child labour were retreated from that work and they were asked to have their life fully equipped. They are given very good education; they are given good books; they are given good three-time food; and also they are given uniforms. I can see in Tamil Nadu, in certain areas, in Vellore and other places. I saw that the people are well protected. Children are feeling that they are not unequal with the other child. They are equal with other child. Therefore, they feel that even though, they were forced into child labour, now they have come out because of the law, because of the enforcement of the Government of India's laws and regulations. They will get good jobs in future after having education. The same scheme should be applied in every village and every place wherever it is like that. There should be some coordination between private people who are ready to give some money for this purpose. Then, enforcement should be proper and child labour should be totally abolished in India and that is a disgrace on humanity and on civilisation. Sir, therefore, I request the hon. Minister to take up that issue whole-heartedly and see that child labour is totally abolished.

Sir, now, I would request the concentration upon other point, that is, the welfare of the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes. There are many schemes made available by the Government of India, the special schemes for the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, coaching-cum-guidance centre for the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes, special coaching schemes, labour welfare fund scheme, rehabilitation of bonded labour, survey and research study.

(Contd. by TMV)


SHRI E. M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (CONTD.): These are the schemes provided by the Government of India and money has also been allotted for them. It has to be scrutinised whether these schemes are implemented properly and we have to see to it that these schemes reach the people who are in need of them. There are many Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes people living in the villages without awareness. They don't know what are the benefits given by the Government of India. Huge benefits are given to them by the Government of India. Now, the Mid-Day Meal Scheme is there. We are giving scholarships to their children. We are giving a lot of encouragements to the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes. But these things ought to be brought to the notice of the people. I would suggest, whatever the enactments that are made by the different Departments and whatever the schemes that are provided by the different Departments, they should be brought under a single manual so that people get direct knowledge that these are the different schemes on which the Government of India is spending money. A child in the womb is protected. A mother is protected. A child after birth is protected. A child who goes to the school is protected. A child is prohibited from doing labour simply because of economic factor. If that is so, the child laws say that the Government of India would pay Rs.200 to the family so that the child is spared from doing labour. These are all laws made by the Government of India. But these are to be enforced properly. It must be seen that the people have knowledge about them and the children have knowledge about them. These things should be made part of the education curricula. We need not be worried about the other things. We have to see, at least, that the security arrangements, the food security, the social security, the health security, etc., provided by the Government of India should reach them. They have to be made part of the educational curricula. Then only will the people come to know about the things available for them.

Sir, the Labour Ministry is having its own research cell. It is having its own data collection machinery. It is having very excellent training centres. I have to mention here that, in the present Budget, the UPA Government has come forward with a proposal to set up 100 more ITIs so that the ordinary people can acquire technical skill. A huge sum is provided for this purpose in this Budget. This should also be propagated among the people so that the people can understand how much the Government is providing in each and every Budget for the welfare of the labour.

Sir, I would like to wind up my speech by saying that many factories are now covered in respect of enforcement of wages and other benefits. About 17,221 factories and shops are covered by the Employees State Insurance Scheme in 2004-05. About 4.88 lakh employees are brought under the ESI Scheme. A lot of new initiatives have been taken by the Labour Ministry. I congratulate the Government and the Ministry for taking a lot of initiatives. About 2.81 lakh employees are covered by the ESI Scheme in the current year itself. The number of implemented centres is 718. The number of employees covered is 78.70 lakhs. The number of insured persons is 84.98 lakhs. The number of beneficiaries is 3.30 crores. A number of new hospitals were set up. The number of ESI hospitals is 144. The number of ESI Annexes is 42. The number of beds in ESI hospitals is 27,099. The number of ESI dispensaries is 1,427. So many new things have come up. But these things should be known to the labour so that they are benefited by them.

With these words, I thank the Government for implementing these things. More vigour is needed in their implementation and there is need for better relationship with the labour. With these words, I conclude and thank you. (Ends) (Followed by 2E/VK)


֤ ֯֙ (ָӛ) : , ִ ӡֵֻ ָ ֕ ֤ ֓ ֻ , ִ ׻֋ ֛ 11 ֓, 2006 ֲ ֤ ִ ָ ֓ , פ ִ֮֮ օ ݵ ֕ ֟ ױ ֮ ֛ פ ֲ ײ֮ ֈә ָ ֵ , ֵ ִ ӡֵֻ ן־ ֵ ֕ ״ֻօ ֕ ֲ ױ ֵ, ֻ ן և ֵ ן ֲֻ ױ ֮ ֟ ֮ ֣ ֤ ӡֵֻ ־ָ , ָ ֮ ־ֿ ֛ ן, ָ ֲֻ ֟ , ֛ ݵ ֟

, ן־ , ִ ִ ӡֵֻ ױ ... ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֲ ־ֲ , ï™ ך ״ ֓ ׻ , ִ ֮ - farmers and farm workers. ֮ ״׮ִִ ִ , ֮ ׸ ״ֻ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֮֮ ִ ӡֵֻ ӟԟ ֮ ֋ ֻ ֵ ֻ ֤֕ ֋? ֕ ״ ܵ , ִ ֳ 92 ןֿ֟ ך ִ ֻ ״ ֻ 7 8 ןֿ֟ ״ ך ִ ך ̤֕ ׻֋ ָָ ָ ֮֋ ֮և -߮ ײֻ ׾ָ֓֬߮ , ָ ׾֢ ӡ ֕֙ ׻֋ ־֮֬ ִ ӡֵֻ ֮ֆ ٟ , , ִ֗ ֟օ ו֮֟ ֵ פ , ֵ ָ ֟ ײֻ ָ ֓ ֤ , ָ ֮ ך ̤֕ ׻֋ ׯ֔ ֻ ן־ ֓ וͻ , ָ ֟ և ֤ ָָ ׻֋ statutory provision , ׻֋ ֯ ִ֗ ֵ ֲ statutory provision , ֓ ו̻ ִ ָ ֟ և? ֜ , ִ ׻ ߛ ̤֕ ׻֋ ָָ ־ ֲֻ ֋, ִ ӡֵֻ ֲֻ ֋օ ֜ ֕ ָָ וֻ ֵ㌟ , וֻ ֵ㌟ ױ ָ ãןֵ ֵ֮ , verify , ױ ִ eligible , ׸ , ֲ ֮ ֋߅ ̤֕ ֲ ֟ , ֤֕ ֮ ָ ֮ ׮ִֵ ӕֻ ֟ , ִ ֮, ߔ ֮, ӟ ֣ ֮ ֻ ߛ ֤֕ ֟ ו֋, ꌙ , ֛ ֻ ֻ " כ" ִ ֻ , House Rent 25 ןֿ֟ ֲ ״ֻ֟ , ָ subsidiary ֮ " ߻", ֤֕ , ԓ׸ ֮־ָ, 2005 House Rent ״ֻ, ֤ House Rent Ӥ ֵօ

(2 F/ASC ָ ֿ:)


֤ ֯֙ (֟) : ָ כ ִ ָ ӡֵֻ ׻֋ ָ , ־և ֲ ך ֻ֟ ך ֤֕ , ãן , ָ ? ֵ ㌟ ֟־ -ן ָ ߕ , ָ ֑ ֤ ָ ֛ ָ ו֮֟ ֵ ָ , ׬ ֑ ָ ֕ Ӿ ֻ ֤֕ ֮֬ ֕ 32 ״ ך ִ ֳ 22 ״ וִ֮ ״ֻ ִ ֲ ֟ ִ ֻ ֤֕ , ״ , , ֳָֻ ִ ״ֻ֟ ִ ״ֻ֟ , ֹ ֟ ָ ׮ֳԸ ֕ ״ ־ , ִ 'ָָ ֮' ִ ֙ , ָ ״ ־ 'ָ֮֠ ָ' ָ -־ã, ִר ָ ֲ ׾ָ֓ , ִ ֮ ׾ָ֓ ֵ , ״ ãן , ִ , ׻֋ ״ ־ ׾ָ֓ օ ָ ֻ ״ ֟ , ָ ֻ ״ ֟ ִֵ, ׻֋ ֵ֤ ֮ ֮֟ ִֵ, ָ-ָ ׮ֲԮ ֟ ִֵ, ׾ָ֓ օ Ӿ ֟ ״ֻ֟ ֲ ֟ ֲ ֓ ӓ-: ֟ ֻ ֟ -֯ , ֓ , ֮ ֓ ֆ ֲ ֟ ֮ ״ֻ, ״ֻօ ֓ ֮ ֮ ֜ ֮ , ֲ֕ -׻ֿ ֌ ֻ Ù ߮֟ ױօ פ ֻ-״ ׻֋ ֮ ֮ ֮ פ , ß־ ߴָ , ֻ ״ , ؓ֟ , ӡֵֻ ִ ִ ָ ӡֵֻ ֻ ״ ִ ִֵ, ㌟ פ, ִ þֵ ã֋ ִ , ֯ ֟ , .. ָ פֳָ ִָ֓ ֟ , ָ -֟ ֻ ״ ֲ ֟ , -֯ ָ ֋ ֕ ֟ ֲ ֻ ״ ㌟ ֻ ֋ .. ָ פ פ ֲָ և, ֲ Ӿ ֯ ֟ , ו֮ -֯ פ , ֣ ־ָ ֮ ֮ ׻֋ - ָ ֮֟ , ֮ כ ״֡ ֛ ֯ ֻ ״ ֮ ֮֟ ֲ֕ ָ ֮֟ ֻ ״ ׻֋ ֻ֟ ָ ֮ ׻֋ ֮ ָ ֮ ֮֟ ֋, ָ ו ֲ֕ ָ ֻ-״ ֮֟ , ֲ֕ ָ ָ ֮ (2G ָ ֿ:)


֤ ֯֙ (֟) : ָ ִ ׮ֵ֮ ӡֵֻ ֮ ֮ ֮֯ פօ ִ ׮ֵ֮ ӡֵֻ ֯ ִ֮ ײֻ ׾ָ֓֬߮ ֯ ִ֮ ײֻ ׾ָ֓֬߮ , ִ ֯ ӡ ֛ , ֻ ֮֟ ۠ ׾ָ֓֬߮ , ֤ ִ֮ ֵ , ָ כ ֲֻ , ֜ ֤ ֟ ײֻ ֤ ֋ ֋օ ִ ִֵ ָ ߴ ֤ ֮ ָ ?

ָ, ָ ײֻ ֮ ֻ , ׻֋ ֮ ֲֻ ֵ ֋, ָ ֓ , ָ ֻ ־֮֬ ֓ ֮ ֲֻ , ֮ ָָ ֮ , ֕ ָָ ֮ , ־ ֵ ״ וÙ֮ ֋օ ך ֤֕ ֟ וÙ֮ ֤ ןפ ֵ ִ ֛օ ־֮֬ , ֮ ָ , ֈә , ִ ֮ פ ִ ״ֻ֮ ֻ , ֮ פ ֵ ִ , ? ָ ָ ײֻ ӡֵֻ ִ֮ ׾ָ֓֬߮ ֮֟ ך ִ ֻ ״ , , 32 ֯ ִ 22 Ѿ , ָ ֬׸ ִ ִ ֻ ָ ״ֻ֟ ߮-ָ ߮ ִ ״ֻ֟

ָ, ָָ և Ծ־ã և ןֵ ֮և , ָ ֮֮ߵ ׾֢ ӡ , ִ ֮ ֓߻֮֯ ֵ ֋, ָ ֋ ׻֋ ֳ ִ׮֟ ׾ָ֓-׾ִֿ ß ׮ֻꅠ ֮ ִ ׮ֵ֮ ӡֵֻ ֮ ײֻ ֓ ߮ ָ ִ ֮ ׬ ֓߻ ֵ֮ ֵ, ׬ ֳ ֵ֮ ֵ, ׬ ָ ֵ֮ ֵ, ו ָ ִ ѕ ֮ ֲֻ ָ , ֻ ָ 같 ״֡ , ָ ִܵӡ ֵּ֓ ß־ ֱ֮ ֤֕ ߕ פ ֋

SHRI MANOJ BHATTACHARYA: Sir, are we discussing West Bengal or the working of the Labour Ministry? (Interruptions)

SHRI DEVDAS APTE: I am not discussing West Bengal here. (Interruptions)

֚ : ֯ ߱

SHRI MANOJ BHATTACHARYA: Sir, Shri Budhadeb Bhattacharya is not here. (Interruptions)

SHRI MATILAL SARKAR: Sir, Shri Budhadeb Bhattacharya is not here. How can he talk about him? (Interruptions)

֤ ֯֙ : ִ ֮ ֓߻ ֮֮ ִ֮ ׿ִ ֻ ֮֮ߵ ִܵӡ ִ ֮ ֓߻ ֮֋ ֋, ִ ևԙ ㌟ ֋ ִ ֮ ֓߻ ֮֮ ֟

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIAN): Mr. Manoj, when your turn comes, you can reply to it. You will be given time.

SHRI MANOJ BHATTACHARYA: Sir, my only submission to the hon. Member is...

֤ ֯֙ : , ִ ֮ ֓߻ ֮֮ ִ֮ ֟ ׿ִ ֻ ִܵӡ ֵּ֓ օ

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: One second. (Interruptions) Mr. Manoj, please wait. Mr. Apte, are you yielding?

SHRI DEVDAS APTE: No, not at all.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Then, you continue. Mr. Manoj Bhattacharya, you can reply to him when your turn comes. (Followed by 2h/tdb)


SHRI DEVDAS APTE : He said it in the meeting of the Politburo. It has been published in all the newspapers. It is not a secret. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI CHITTABRATA MAJUMDAR: How do you know that it was said in the meeting of the Politburo? Were you present there? ...(Interruptions)...

֤ ֯֙ : ָ ֻ ֲ ן ׿ִ ֻ ܵ ӡ , ֮ ֤ ׮־ ֮ 70 ׮ֵ׮֕ , ֕ ֻօ ׸֟Ԯ ֮ օ ߬ ִ ֮ ָ ִ ׮ֵ֮ ӡֵֻ ߮ ֺ , ֮ , ֮ ߮ ֮ ֜ ֋ ֮ "ֆ " ד֡ פ ٣ ָ , ד֡ ָ ֮֯ ׮Ե ...(־֮֬)... ֲ ִ ֮ ֓߻ ֮֮ ֟ , ִ ֮ ָ ֮ ֟ ׻֋ ִ ׮ֵ֮ ӡֵֻ ִ֮ ײֻ ׾ָ֓֬߮ , ך ֤֕ ׻֋ ִ ׮ֵ֮ ӡֵֻ ִ , ײֻ ֻ--ֻ ןִ פ ֋ ֤ ִ֮ ֵ ֋ ָ ׾ß ֓ ־֮֬ ָ ֟ , ָ-ָ ֟ 22 ״ ִ ׮ֵ֮ ӡֵֻ ؓ֟

֯ ֻ ״ ״ ָ օ ֯ ׻֋ ֮ ӿ֮ ״ ֟ ֻ ִ פ ֋ ׻֋ ־ֿ ӿ֮ ֋, ָ ָָ , ־֮ ״ ִ ֟ , ӱ֮ ֋ ֟ ִ , ֣ ֯ ֟ ? פ ֻ ݵ֯ ֙ , ֮ ֮ ־ֿ

, ִ ׮ֵ֮ ӡֵֻ ֮ ӡֵֻ ߮ ֮ֆ ֵֻ , ׻ ػ خ 6 ֻ֟ ػ ػ, ػ Ӿ-Ӿ ֙ ֛ ֲ خ , Ӳև, ꮮև פ ӡ ػ خ ָ ֻ֮ ֤֮ ׯ֔ ֻ֋ ֛-֛ ֛ ־֮ ִ ֮ ׾ Ԯ ָ ־֮ ֮ ֛ ֵ ֮ ׻֋ ֋ ֱ ךև ֋ ו֮֟ ֓ , ֮ ӕ ׻֋ ֤֮ ֛-֛ ӵӡ ֻ֟ ָ-ָ ػ ־ֿ ֛ ֤֮ ׬׸ ֮ ӕ׮ֵظ ־֕ ָ ִ֮ ֮ ֛ , פ ֋ ׬ ֵ֤ օ

ָ ֮֯ ֮ ן־ և00և0 ߙ ֻ פ ֮ ߙ օ ׸ ֕ ׾֪٣ֵ ׻֋ 11 ָ ߙ ָӛ ֕ ֻ և ָ ߙ

(2//ߋ־ ָ ֿ:)

KGG-PSV/2J-2k-2l/1.40 to 1.50

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VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIAN): If this House agrees, I would request Shri Ram Nath Kovind to Chair the Session for some time.

HON. MEMBERS: Yes, yes.


*SHRI N.R.GOVINDARAJAR (TAMIL NADU): Mr. Vice-Chairman, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak on the working of the Ministry of Labour and Employment on behalf of AIADMK. I feel it my duty to thank the Honble Chief Minister of Tamilnadu Dr. Purachi Thalaivi Amma for showering the benevolence of the opportunity to be here and take part in this discussion.

Sir, I wish to make an observation right in the beginning. I feel the Labour Ministry should be renamed as Labour Problems Ministry. Because, the labourers from Agricultural sector to Industrial sector and from rural areas to urban areas are living in misery across the country and problems have become part of life of the labour class. I think renaming the Labour Ministry as Labour Problems Ministry would be appropriate.

I have a pertinent question for the Honble Minister. I would like to know whether the Labour Ministry is consulted when poverty alleviation and employment generation schemes are being formulated for implementation. Had the Government consulted and sought the advice of the Labour Ministry, I think schemes like RLEGP, NREP, PMRY and JRY would have been successful as desired. According to National sample survey statistics, the country has a work force of over 41 crore people. But unfortunately 93% of them are in the unorganised sector.


*English translation of the original speech in Tamil.

This bulk of unorganised workers include, agricultural labourers, casual labourers, daily wage workers, rickshaw pullers, handloom workers, porters and so on.

Mr. Vice-Chairman, Sir, the Union Government has been trumpeting about a projected growth rate of economy of 8.1 for the current year. But I would like to ask, what is use of all this statistics? I dont find any use of providing such figures. The Government makes tall claims about the growth of economy. But the growth rate of employment has gone down from 2.4% a decade before to 0.98 now. This shows how job opportunity has been coming down over the years in spite of the claim of economic growth.

Sir, I wish to bring to the notice of the Government as to why a vast majority of our work force is under employed. This is because of the lack of skill induction in our country. In other countries 60 to 80 percent of the work force is trained in vocational skills. But in India only 5% of the work force is vocationally trained. This is really a regrettable situation. That is why we have such a vast human resource that remains unutilised. I hope the Honble Minister will take necessary steps to train our work force vocationally.

Mr.Vice-Chairman, Sir, the centre is now launching a new scheme called Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme. An Act has also been passed to this effect. It is said that this scheme aims at providing 100 days work per year to 40 lakh people . It is estimated that this scheme will need Rs. 40 thousand crore. So I would like to know from the Honble Minister as to how he is going to mobilise funds for this scheme. When this scheme will be extended to the entire country? Then what will be the cost estimate for implementing this? I would like to have an assurance that this scheme will not be transferred to the state Government like some earlier schemes.

Sir, I have a small point on the problems faced by people who wish go to foreign countries for work. There have been cases of such innocent job seekers being cheated by dubious agencies across the country. Hard earned money of unsuspecting people is being pocketed by bogus agencies in the name of getting jobs abroad. I appeal to the Honble Minister to take immediate action on the matter to save the innocent people. Agencies wanting to engage in manpower export should be asked to obtain licence from the Labour Ministry and duly register themselves. I hope the Honble Minister will do the needful.

Sir, I would also request the Honble Minister to tell the House as to what has been achieved by the Directorate General of Employment and Training. It has been in existence for years now. So, it is important to know its functions and achievements. Now Model Industrial Training Institutes are set up only in four places namely, Haldwani , Calicut, Cuttack and Jodhpur. I demand that this should be extended to Chennai. Madurai and Coimbatore in Tamilnadu.

I am constrained to say a few words about the neglected sectors. More thank 42 percent of the agricultural labourers are living below poverty line. Even the rest of the agricultural labourers live hand to month. That is why the Honble Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu Dr. Puratchi Thalaivi Amma has launched a scheme known as Farmers Protection Scheme for the welfare of farmers. The Honble Chief Minister Tamil Nadu, respected Amma has launched many more schemes for the welfare of construction workers, stone crushers, handloom sector workers and other daily wagers. These schemes take care of farmers, agricultural labourers, toddy tapers landless labourers and many more categories of workers. If any worker dies, his family is given Rs. 1 lakh and if a worker loses limbs then Rs. 25 thousand is given. For the marriage of girl child of a worker Rs. 5000 is given and in case of a male child the amount is Rs. 3000. If a worker is above 60 year old and is unable to work, then he is given pension. Tamil Nadu is the first state in India to give such pension to unorganised workers. It is all possible because of our respected Amma. I appeal to the Honble Minister to bring such schemes here also.

I have a word about the EPF. The rate of interest has been reduced to 8.5. This has affected the employees adversely. So, I request the Honble Minister to reconsider this. The National Sample Survey has stated that urban unemployment has increased by 1 per cent. This issue must be addressed. Women going to work at night face threat to life. So, the safety of working women has be ensured. Child labour has be handled properly. Contract labourers interest should be protected.

As I conclude, I wish to say one thing. No one should think that coming to power is just to enjoy power. Rather this is an opportunity to serve the people. Those in power should try to eradicate poverty of the people and not of their party. By increasing the number of Ministers, more employment can be provided only to those close to power. That will not solve unemployment problem. So, I once again appeal to the Honble Minister to enact laws and launch more schemes for the welfare of the labourers and the unemployed in the country. With these words, I conclude. (ENDS) (Followed by 2m/nbr)


SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, the mandate given to the Ministry of Labour and Employment is to create work environment conducive to achieving a high rate of economic growth and to protect and safeguard the interests of the workers. This is the mandate given to the Ministry.

Sir, if you analyse the performance of the Ministry, there are certain good aspects that needs to be complimented and there are certain things which needs to be taken care of. Sir, I would like to draw the attention of the hon. Minister to the organised sector. The workers in the organised sector are facing problems with regard to better living conditions and better wages. Apart from this, the major problem which has rocked the country is the reduction of interest rate on the EPF. Earlier, it was 9.5 per cent. Now, you have reduced it to 8.5 per cent. You have to explain to the nation and convince the people who are the stakeholders of the EPF. The Government of India has to convince the workers as well as the countrymen.

Sir, coming to the unorganised sector, there are many Acts for the welfare of the workers. Some of the Acts remained only on paper. Actually, on the field, nobody is bothered to implement them. Take the case of bonded labour. There is an Act called Bonded Labour System (Abolition) Act, 1976. There are three important aspects in this enactment. The first one is the identification of bonded labour. The second one is rehabilitation of bonded labour. And, the third one is about penal provisions. If you consider the case of Andhra Pradesh, you will find that about 37,988 bonded labourers have been identified as on 31st May, 2005. But, you have tried to rehabilitate only 31,534, leaving a wide gap of 6,000 workers. You have also identified them, but failed to rehabilitate them. This is one point. Identification and rehabilitation are the two important aspects. The third one is about the penal provisions. Nowhere -- either in the Annual Report or in Performance Report or in the Mid-Term Appraisal, or in the Tenth Five Year Plan document -- I find a mention of penal clause. Nowhere it has been mentioned as to how many people have been convicted and how many people are brought to the prosecution table. Nothing is there. This third aspect is just conveniently either ignored, or, slipped from the Ministry. The hon. Minister has to explain this. Sir, when it comes to the whole country, the Ministry has identified 2,86,244 as bonded labour. As far as rehabilitation is concerned, still there are more than 20,000 people waiting for rehabilitation from the Government.

The other most important and crucial aspect as far as my State, from where the hon. Minister also come, is concerned is the plight of beedi workers. It is miserable. There are lakhs of beedi workers in A.P. alone. Thousands of beedi workers are in various districts. This industry spread in over 12 districts in my State. The common disease among the beedi working class is TB and cancer. If you go round the areas, you will know the problem. The hon. Minister is aware of the problem. If you go to their houses or look around their workplace, you will find terrible scenes. You just cannot imagine the plight of beedi workers. I request the hon. Minister to go over to the colonies, to go over to the houses and see the plight of beedi workers. They are suffering from TB and many other diseases. And, there are only 13 hospitals in the State of A.P. As far as Tamil Nadu is concerned, there are only 11 hospitals meant for beedi workers. I request the hon. Minister to increase the number of hospitals, provide sufficient money to hospitals and increase the bed strength. I request the Ministry to help beedi workers in getting identification cards. Sir, many industries are just taking them on daily-wages without showing them on payrolls.