PREVIOUS HOUR

ASC-KSK/7.00/3X

֟־Ο ֟ߠ (֟) : ֳ֯ן , ֛ ֤ ֲ ָ ֓ ֲ ֓ , ֠ ׾֯ ו ֻ ָ ֮ ӳ߸ ֮ ֌ , ָ ֓ ִֵ ָ ֺ ֟ ִ֮ ֻ ָߵ ֮֟ ֙ ׸š ֆ ...(־֮֬)..

.. ׻ֵ : ָ ֻ , ֯ ָ ߔ ...(־֮֬). ָ ߔ ֋ ָ ָ ָ ...(־֮֬). ֛ߋ י ֻ , ׻֋ ׾ָ כ ߛ ..(־֮֬)... ֤ ָ ֟־Ο , ֯ ֋ ..(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ïߓ ..(־֮֬)..

.. ׻ֵ : ֯ ׾ֵ ָ և ֯ ֮ ֟ ו֋ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ׻ֵ , כ ïߓ .(־֮֬).. ֯ ֮օ

֟־Ο ֟ߠ : ֳ֯ן , ֻ , ֲ ֕ ָ ߛ ןֻ״ֻ֟ ֓ ֮֯ ו ִ߮ ָ , ֯ ִ߮ ֕ ..(־֮֬).. , ֟ Ͽ , ֬և ֻ ָ ßָ ָ ֮ ֟ , ֯ Ӥ ִ ™ Ӥ , ֕ ֓ ֬և , ,ֳ ßָ ָ ֓ ֤ ߅ ָ ו ָ ָ ֋ , ...(־֮֬)..

. . ׻ֵ : ֯ ָ ֟ כ ָ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : ïߓ ...(־֮֬)..

֟־Ο ֟ߠ : ֳ֯ן , ֙ ָ ֓ օ ֟ Ӥ߮ , ׻ ׻֋ ֻ ו ֤֟ ׾ֹ ֛ͮ ֟ ֤֟ ߔ ֮ؓ֟ , ָ ֮֕ן 韾 ׾ֳו֟ פֵ ֋ ֲ ָ ֮֕ן 韾 ׾ֳו֟ פև , ֻ ֮ , ֳ ֱ ֟ ״ֻ , ִ ֤ ֳ ֟Ӿ֤ ָ ׾ֳו֟ פև פ ֮ Ӆ ִֵ ׻י ևә ׿ֿ , ֯ ôָ ֤ , ָ ָ ָ , ֲ ֻ ָ ֻ , ֲ , ֻ ֕ ָ ֲ , ו ִֵ ֤ ָ ֻ ֲ þֵ ֟ , ֲ , ִָ ָ ֻ , ֣ פ ָ ֻ , ָ֣ סֵ ָ ֻ , ִ ־ Ù֮ ָ ֻ , ָ߮ ׾֮֬ ֳ ָ ֻ , ֮ ִ ֮־։? ֲ ׻֋ ֮ ֮֜ ֤ ֤ ֌ ֵ ֤ , ָ, ֳ 142 ֙֋ , ו֮ ָ־ָ , ֛ߋ ָָ ִ֮ ִֵ ״ , ָ ָ ִ ׸֛ ..(־֮֬)..

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ָ֮ ִ ...(־֮֬)..

. ִ ӛָ : ïߓ ..(־֮֬)..

ֳ֯ן : יָ , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)..

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ꬵ ִ , ָ֮ ִ ..(־֮֬). ִ ֤ ֋օ ...(־֮֬)..

֟־Ο ֟ߠ : ֺ ִ օ ..(־֮֬) ֯ ָֿ߱ ֋, ֺ օ ...(־֮֬)..

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ָ ã֮ , ִ ו֋ ....(־֮֬)..

֟־Ο ֟ߠ : ֯ , ֺ ִ օ ִ օ ֳ֯ן , ֲ ָ ׾֯ ֢ ׾֯ , ֲ ָ ֻ ׾֯ ֮ ״ , ָ ֤ ֮ ֟ (ֿ: 3 Y ָ)

NB/3Y/7.05

֟־Ο ֟ (֟) : ֲ ָ֣ סֵ ָ ֻ , ָ ߴ֟ ׮ֵ Ӭ ֱ ֤ Ӥ ֤ ָָ unconditional ִ֣Ԯ פ, ׻ ן׮׬ִӛ Ӿ ֵ , ִ þֵ ߴ֟ ׮ֵ Ӭ ֮ ׸š ֆ ֣ և ֣ ֮ן , ִօ ׾֯ ֟ ָ ָ וִָ ָָ ֕׸ ״ֵ ָ , ׾֯ ֟ ָ Ӿ׮ וִָ ֲ ™ߵ ֻ ™ߵ Ͽ ֛ , ֲ ׾֯, ֢ ֲ֕ ָ ׌ Ϥ֮ , ׾֯ וִָ ֕ ׾֯ ֤

֮֮ߵ ֳ֯ן , ֙֋ , ִ ֳ 782 ׮֤ ׸ ָ ֋, ן ֲ ؓן֟ ־ֻ ? ָ ־ֻ ֙ֆ ? , ו֮ ֮ ָ ֛ ־ , ו֮ ֮ technology ָ ֛ ־ , ו֮ ֮ intelligence system ָ ֛ ־ , FDI ָ ֛ ־ , CIA ָ ֛ ־ , ֤֟ ֙ֆ ֋ ֛ , ݻ Ӥ ֋, ï כ ֵ, ֵָֻ Mossad ֵ, ִִ KGB ָ ֵ ևՅ ֕ ֤֟ ֤֟ ֙ֆ anticipate Գ ֮ ֮ ָ ָ ֟ ֙֋ ֻ , ֓ , ָ ֙֋, ו֮ ִִ ϵ ־֕ ֟ , ֙ֆ ָ , ֙ֆ ָ ֓ ֟ ֵ֤ ӳ־֟: ָ ߕ ״ֻ ϵ , ָ , ֵ֤ ֙ֆ ֤֤ ֤ ֵ֤ ִ ֻ ܵ ֤ ߅ ָ ֮ ֤֟ ֱֻ ֤ ֛ , ֮ ֮֕ן ׾ֵ ֮֋Ӆ ָ ֮֕ן ׾ֵ ֮, ױ ֓ ֛ Ӭָ ֵ ?

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ױ ָָ-ָ߱ ָ ֓ ֛߅

֟־Ο ֟ : ײֻ ֛, ֺ ֛ ... (־֮֬)

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ױ ־ ֮ ֵֻ, ֓ ֛߅

֟־Ο ֟ : ֳ֯ן , ׾֯ ֲ ֮ ֓ , ָ ߕ ו ָ ֕Կߙ ָ ָ֯֡ օ ָ ز֤ ָ ָָ ֟ þָ ֯ע ָָ 36 ֋ ִִ ִ ֵֻ , , ָָ , ֟ ָ ֤֟ , ֤֟ ԙ ֕ -ִ ֮֕ן ֤֟ ֣ ֙ ӕִ և ׮׿֟ ֤֟ ׾ֹ ֛ ָ ߕ ethnic cleansing , ִ ָ ֬׸ ָָ ִ ׸, ֟ , ߅ 3Z/AKG ָ ֿ:

AKG/3Z/7.10

֟־Ο ֟ (֟) : þָ ߸ ֱ ָ ֋ ֓ ֵ֤ ֟ , וִָ , ϟ ָ ߸ -- ִֻ֮ ָ ֟פ ׻ֵ ׮ֿ֮ ֮ ... (־֮֬) ...

ֵ֮ ֻ ָ : ָ֟ ... (־֮֬) ... ... (־֮֬) ...

ֳ֯ן : - ... (־֮֬) ...

֟־Ο ֟ : ָ֟ ָ ֓ ׻֋ ß־ ֮, ָ ֓ ꅠ ֯ ִ֮ꅠ ִ֮ ֲ ֮ , ֳ ֟ ֮ և ߅ ... (־֮֬) ...

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ֓ , -ָ ֮ ׾ֵ ׻ֵ ֕ ֳ ָ ֓ ... (־֮֬) ...

֟־Ο ֟ : օ ׻֋ ... (־֮֬) ...

ֳ֯ן : יָ , ֋, ֯ ֤ ֟Բ ֋ , ֟Բ ֋ ïߓ ֋, יָ ... (־֮֬) ...

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ָ ӛ ֮ ֵ, ֓ ꅠ ִϤ׵ ֮ և, ֓ ... (־֮֬) ...

֤ߵ ֵ ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ֓ ) : ֳ֯ן , ֲֵָ ֋ , ׸ߙ ... (־֮֬) ...

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ֟ ֯ ָß ֋ ... (־֮֬) ... ״ֻ֛֮ ... (־֮֬) ... ֋ ... (־֮֬) ... ִ ֯ ֙ ֋ , ׻֋ ... (־֮֬) ...

֓ : ïߓ ߓ ֟ ֯ ֤ߵ ָָ ֮ ? ... (־֮֬) ...

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ֓ , ו֮֟ ֯ ־ , ֮ פ ֤ ֳ , ֯ ֕ ֳ ֕ ֕ ֳ ֵ ... (־֮֬) ...

ֳ֯ן : ֋, ֳ ꅠ ָָ ïߓ ә֮ , ָָ , ... (־֮֬) ...

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ִ֮ ֙ֆ ... (־֮֬) ... ֬ ... (־֮֬) ... ֙֋ , ֻ ֤ , ... (־֮֬) ...

ֳ֯ן : ֻ ֻ ... (־֮֬) ...

.. ׻ֵ : ֳ֯ן , ïߓ , ә֮ ! ... (־֮֬) ...

֟־Ο ֟ : ֳ֯ן , ֮ ֮ ־֮ ָ ׻֋ ֵօ ֮ ֤֟ ֻ , ֮ ֙֋ ֟ ߅ ָ ֵ֤ ֋ , ָ ֤ ֟ ߓ 1998-99 2004 6 ֻ ׻֋ ָָ ꅠ ׻֋, ו֮ ׻֋ ֕ , ֛ ֮ 6 ֻ ֮ ֻ ָ ֛ߋ ָָ ߸ כ , ֤֤ ֮ ָ-ָ, ֮ ֮, ִ߮-ֵ֤֤ ֻ ֕ - ָ ָ٣ֵ ָ ֛ , ָ ָָ ֮ ֮ ֻ ָ ן Դָ֤֮ ִ߸ ד֮ , ־ ־ã , ֙ ִ߮-ֵ֤֤ ױ ֮ Դָ֤֮ ׿ֿ , ִִ ָ ֮֮ ׻֋ ָ ֟, , ߴ֮˅ ֕ ֙ , ֤ ֙ , ֙ ִֻ֮ ߓ ֟ ֟ ֮և ֟ ָ ֟

ֳ֯ן , ֱ ֟ , ֤ ֌ օ ֟ ֕ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֟פ ֟ ֲ ָָ ֻ֟ , ָ Ù ֟ , ֲ ָ ֮ ֟ ֲ ׾֯ ֟ , ָ ֮ ֤ ֟ Ӆ ֯ ߴ֮, ֲ ֯ ָָ , ֤ ׸, ֮֯ ٸ֟ ӱ ֟ ׿ֿ , ו ֕ ֻ֮ ӱ ֯ ָ֕ ߅ 2001 ٸ֟ ӱ ֯ ֟ և ִֵ ֮֯ --߮ ִ-߸ , ָ߮ ߾ ָ ִ֮ ֓ ߅ ֓ ָ ٸ֟ ӱ ֯ ֱ ־ֲ פ ֯ ֓ , ֯ --߮ ֚ ֓ ֯ ֲ ֓ , ָ ֓ , ָ ֟ ן ָ ׾֮֬ ֵָ ֓ ׻֋ ִ-߸ ִõ ִ֮֬ ׮ֻ֮ ׻֋ ָ ֓ , ֓ þ֟ ֻ ָ ֟֓ߟ ׸ ִ֮֬ ׮ֻ ... (4/֋֋ ָ ֿ:)

4A/HMS-VKK/7.15

֟־Ο ֟ (֟) : ָ ׿ֿ , ָ ן ן ָ ִֵ , --߮ ֓ ָ֕ , ٸ֟ ӱ ֓ ָ֕ ? , ֕ ֙ ָָ, 000 ָָ ָ ֤֟ ֱֻ י֨ ו ָ֮ օ ָ֮ פ ָ ֻ , ֻ יָ , ֯ ֮ ףֵ פ Ӥ , פ ׸ָ ָ ׻֋ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ֟ ו֋

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ֵ֮ ֯ ָ֮

֟־Ο ֟ : ֟ , ױ ־ֲ օ

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ָ ֋ ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ : ָ ...(־֮֬)... ־ֲ פ ָ ָ  ָ ו֋, ״ָֿ ָ ו֋, ׻ ױ ָ ו֋, פ Ӥ ֯ ֮֕ן ֮ ֕֟ ...(־֮֬)... ֲ ֤ ֬և ָ֮ ִֻ֮ , ו֮ ִִ ׿ֿ ־֕, ֛֮ ־֕ ...(־֮֬)...

׾ֵ֮ יָ : , ָ ִ ׻ֵ ָ פօ פֳָ ֮ ߅ ...(־֮֬).. ֯ ו֮֟ ֟ , ֤ ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ : ֓ ָ֮ , ֓ ꬵ ...(־֮֬)... ָ ֲ ֣ ׮֋

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ָ ֮ ׌ ָ֬ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ Ùָ ֻ ֮ ӟ س֛־ֻ ָ ֻօ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ֤֟ ֵ, ӕֲ Ӥ ֤֟ ֛ օ ß ָ ֻ֟ ָ ָ ֮ ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֮֯ פ,

֟־Ο ֟ : ֳ֯ן , ֤ ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

׾ֵ֕ ָ : ֮֕ן և ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ֮֕ן ָ ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ : ֕ ֤ Ӥ , ן ? ֕ ֤ Ӥ ו ָ-ָ, ӓ-ӓ ָ ã֮ , ן ?

ֳ֯ן : כ ֻ ָ ֻ , ׯ և

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ָ, ִ

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ֮֯ פօ

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ֮֮ ָ ֮ , ָ֬ ֵ ָ֕ ? ִֵ Ϥ ֋, ֚ ֻ , օ ָ פֳָ , ָ ? ָ ֮ , ָ ֟ ...(־֮֬)... ָ ֮ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ֮ ׻֋ פ, ֮־ ־֮ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ , ִ֕ ֤

֟־Ο ֟ : ָ ֯ ִ ֤ ,

׾ֵ֮ יָ : և, ֵ ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟: ֯ ֮֕ן , ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֮֯ פ ֋

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ׮ֵ ֵ ִ ֤ ֵ, ֵ ? ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ : ֯ ֮ ׻֋ ֵ ֯ ϵ ־֕ ן ãׯ֟ ֵ ...(־֮֬)...

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ֛ ִ֮֯ ֯ ֲ ßֻ ֟ ׸ ָ, ֲ ֯

֟־Ο ֟ : ֳ֯ן , ݵ ...(־֮֬)...

׾ֵ֮ יָ : ֲ ֯ ֻ֟ ֟ ָ ֯ ָ ...(־֮֬... , ֲ ֯

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, I have a small submission.

SHRI SATYAVRAT CHATURVEDI: Sir, I am not yielding.

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, the point is, Mr. Satyavrat Chaturvedi started his speech praising the initiator of this debate, Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi. (Contd. by RSS/4b)

PSV-RSS/4B/7.20

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA (Contd.) : Sir, the debate is on Doda. The debate is about the situation in Jammu and Kashmir. Now, he started discussing Banaras... (Interruptions)... , ָ ֓ , my next speaker is ready. There is no problem.

ֳ֯ן : ߻ that we have reached a very high level of debate. (Interruptions)...

00׻ֵ : ָ, և כ , ֳ ֋ , ֮֮ߵ ֤ , ֨ ֤ , ׮ֵָ ֤ , ֙ ã֮ , ָ ָ ָ ֟ ױ ֋, , ? ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ : ײֻ ß , ֯օ ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

00׻ֵ : ָ ֯ , ׻֋, ߻ ...(־֮֬)... ָ כ ...(־֮֬)... ָ ָ ָ ָ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ׻ֵ , ֵօ ...(־֮֬)...

ֵָ : ֮֯ ִ ? ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)... , ֯ ך ...(־֮֬)... ֯ ׻֋

֟־Ο ֟ : ֳ֯ן , ֯ ֟ ־ֲ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ־ֻ-־ֲ , ָ כ ו֋ ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ : ...(־֮֬)... , ָ֮ ָ ֟ օ ...(־֮֬)... ׻֋ ֮ ֟ , ָ ָ ֟ օ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ָ ֯ ֟ , פ ָ ә , օ ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ : ׻֋ ֮ ֟ , ָ ָ ֟ օ ...(־֮֬)... ֻ, ֱ ׻֋ ֟ ָ ָ, ָ ֻ ֮֕ן ָ , ָ ֮֕ן ֟ , ...(־֮֬)... ...(־֮֬)...

֚ : ֯ ׸, ָ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : , ׾ֵ ...(־֮֬)... ֲ ָ , ִֵ ֟ ߅ ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ߠ : ׻֋ ָ Ӆ ...(־֮֬)...

֮֮ߵ ֤õ : ߸ ָ ֓ ֮֕ן ...(־֮֬)...

֟־Ο ֟ߠ : ֳ֯ן , ӟ ӡ ֟ ׮־ ֺ օ

׮־ ֟ ׻֋ ֮ ֙ ִ֮ , ׬־֮ ֟ ׻ֵ ß־ ׸ , וִ ֮ ߸ ޛ ־ ׻֋ ָָ ֟ ־ ߸ , ֮ ֋ ָָ ӡ ߠ ִֻ ӕߤ ֣ ϵ ߸ ޛ - ֙ , -ִ֮ - ֮ ָ ֯ ãׯ֟ ֋ ֺ օ

ָ ֟ 0 ֮ ֮ ã֮ , Ӿֿ߻ ֯ ָ ã֮ ָ ־֮ ֮֮ ß־ ֮ ״֟ , ָ ׮׿֟ ִ߸֯ ׾ָ֓ ֮ ֲ ֟׾ ֣ ִ ߸ ָ - ׸ ֟ , ָ ֱ ָ ֻ Ӥ פ־ ׻֋ ֮ ֯ ֲ ֟־ָ ֟ ן ֲ ֟־ָ ßָ ָ ֋ ָ ִ ׸ ֟ , ֲ ִ֟ ֵ֤ ִ ֤ ֯ ָ ֟ ָ ֟ ָ ִ߸ ֮ ֯ ֳ ִ־ , ֲ ָ ֟ ֮ ֲ ֣ ֯ ֮־֤ ֮֯ ִֵ פօ

(ִ֯)

(4 ָ ֿ:)

MKS/KLG/7.25/4C

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN : Shri Ravula Chandra Sekar Reddy. Three minutes are allotted to your party.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, it is very difficult after the maiden speech and after the maiden interference!

Sir, I rise to participate in the debate initiated by Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi on the killing of innocent people by terrorists in Doda district. I join my colleagues in condemning the attacks and the killing of the innocent people in Jammu & Kashmir. The killing of people in Jammu & Kashmir and other bordering States has become a regular feature. Many innocent people are being killed and many children have become orphans. Many parents have lost their children. Sir, I have the statistics with me. The Annual Report for 2004-05 shows the total number of incidents during 1990-2005. By virtue of terrorism-related statistics, 61,935 incidents took place during the past 15 years in Jammu & Kashmir, and 12,542 civilians were killed. The number of security forces people killed is 4,116. Sir, the statistics go on to show that in spite of the best efforts being made by the people who are at the helm of affairs, both in Jammu & Kashmir and Delhi, the killings are taking place. We are spending a lot of money on developmental activities as far as the people of that area are concerned, and also on defending the borders. Sir, I would like to request the Government to take appropriate steps for creating confidence and commitment among the people towards our nation. To create confidence and commitment, we should develop the areas, improve the infrastructure and provide better living conditions to the people. We should provide better employment opportunities to the youngsters so that they are not tempted to join the anti-social elements and take up the unauthorised activities. Sir, I also request the hon. Minister to review the performance of the Village Defence Committees. If they are useful, please strengthen them. If they are not of the expected standard, think of another mode for defending the people and their property in that area. Our ultimate aim should be to preserve the unity and integrity of our country. Please create confidence among the people that there is a Government which will protect their lives and which will protect their properties. This should be our prime motive. I request the hon. Minister, since the State Government has announced certain programmes like providing employment to the kith and kin of the people who are killed in these incidents, to also come out with a good package for helping the people and creating confidence among them. I do not want to quote the names. Many instances are there. After hearing Joshiji and Karan Singhji, I think it would be better if the Home Minister replies to all these things and to protect the borders and to also create confidence among the people, what are the steps being contemplated by the Government of India. I would like to hear this from him. Thank you, Sir. (Ends)

ֳ֯ן : ӕֵ ֈօ ֯ ֙ ߮ ״֮֙ , ֯ ߮ ״֮֙ ֮ ֟ ו֋

ӕֵ ֈ (ָ™) : ֤ߵ ֳ֯ן , ָָ ָ ֓ ӛָ ֟ ֟פ ֟ , ִ , ָ ߸ ֙ , ֟פ ִ ָ ֻ ִ , - ו֮ ָ , ֱ ߸ ֙ ֟ , ָ , ꬵ , ָ™ ֤֟ ָָ , ָ ִ ָ ã ֮ ֻ ֟ ֮ ָ 4/ ָ

AKA-TMV/4D/7:30

ӕֵ ֈ (֟) : ֵ֤ ׳ֿ֯ ֮ ֵ ָָ ֨ ֵ ֛ וֿ ָָ ꅠ ָָ , ׾ָ ֻ ֕֯ ֵԆ ֲԸ֯ ָ ֵ, ָ ֋, וִ ֕֯ ֵԆ ևԅ ָ ܵ ӡ ִ ֲ ֤֕ Ù ؓ֟ ׾ֵ ֯ ָ , ֯ ׮ֻ֟ , ָ ֯ ׮ֻ ֤֟ ֯ ָꅠ ֟ , ס ָ ֵ , օ ߸ ׾ֳ֕ ߸ ֻ ֮ ֟ ֮ ׬ָ ׻֋ ִ ֲ ֤֕ ֤ ׮ ֟ ߅

? ֟ Ӭ ֵ ֵ - ָ ֛ ׻ֵ ֮ פ ֵօ ִ֯ וֻ ӟ֜ 15 ֵ, וִ֮ 2 ִֻ֮ 13 ꅠ 2 פ ֋, 13 ֬ ֵօ ֻ פ 19 ָ ֋ ָ ֮ ֻ ? ֱ ß֮ , ו ß֮ ִֻ֮ ™ן, Ϭִ֮ӡ և ֢ ָ ֮ ִ׮ָ֟ ״ֻ ִֵ ? ֱ ß֮ ׸ , և ״ָֿ֮ ָ ֮ ָ Ͽ֮ ־ã ֟ ֕ ܵ ӡ ֟֟ ֤ פ ֟ , ֙ ֣ 36 ־֕ ܵ ӡ, ֤֕ ָ ד֯ ? ӳ߸ ؓ֟ ֟ ܵ ӡ, ֤֕ ָ ֟ ֓־ ߟ ִֵ ֲ ֛ ָָ ֤֟ ִ-߸ ܵ ӡ, ִ ֲ ֤֕ ־ ߟ ׻֋ ִֻ

ֲ ֙ ָ ָ֕ ֻ֟ ؓ֟ ֜ ָ ֟ ֻ ֮ ߴ ָ ß֮ ָ , ֲ ֵ ״ֻ ֋ ߴ ָ כ ׮֤ , וִ֮ ֟פ ׮֤ פ ֵ ֤ ֙ ֤ ׻ 11 ә ֤ ֙ãֻ ָ ױ ߸ ׯ ֮ , ! ֮ ֛ ָָ ׻ ֙ãֻ ָ 11 ә ֤ ֟ , ׯ ֮ ãן

ָ ֟, ָ, ָ-ָ ֟ ֤֟ ß֮ ִ ߸ ׻ ֤ ֟ ûִ ״ֻ ֵ֤ ָ ׿֮ܟ ָ Ӿ ָӓ, ִ ֻ ָ ִ פ ֋, ӛ օ ֲ Ӭ פ ֵ, ך և ߙ ֵօ Ӿ ֤֟ ִ֮ ֛ ֟ , ֤֟ ß֮ ֲ֤֤ؕ ָ ֲԸ֯ ׻ֵ ֮

ָ, ֱ ִ֯ ֟ , ִ-߸ ֕ ֳֵߟ , ֵֻ֮ ָ ֻ ָ-ָ ָ ? ָ ָ ֡ ûִ ֕ ָ ױ ֟ ֋ ? ('4E/SCH' ָ ָ)

SCH/7.35/4E

ӕֵ ֈ (֟) : ׮ֵ ܵ ׮־ֵ ִ ָָ ꅠ ß֮ ֟: ß֮ , ܵ Ӆ ׮ֵ ִ֓߮֟ ן ֳ֟ ָ׬ָ ־֕ ָָ ...(և )

ָ ״֮֙ ו֋

ֳ֯ן: ֯ : ״֮֙ פ , ֯ ֻ ו֋


ӕֵ ֈ: ָ, ֕ ãן ֟ ָ ֋ ? ֲ ָ פ ֟ ֱ ݵ֯ خ֤ߵ ֟ Ծ ٟ ֟ ָ և ״ָֿ֮ ָ ֟ ֕ ִܵӡ ֤ פ ֟ ־ ן ?

ָ, ד֮ ֟ ֲ ָ ֟ ֮־׬ָ ֮ օ ָָ ֮Ù әֻ֮ ֮־׬ָפ օ ׾ , ֮µ ֡֟ ֟? ֕ ֟ , ֱ ֙ ֟ ֋ ִ֕ וֿ ™ ִ-߸ ֕ 10 ָ, 2005 פ 10 ָ ֋, 24 ֓ 2003 24 ߸ כ ־ִ ָ ֋, ֣ פ ֻ 14 ָ ֋, 14 և 2002 ֻ 33 ָ ֋, ָ֣ ֡ 31 ֻ֨ ָ ֋ 35 -֌ ָ ֋ 1999 ߮ , 29 ָ ֋, - 30 ָ ֋ ֳ ԙ֋ ֛ ָָ - ָ ֟ , ױ ֯֟ ֙ ֻ ֕ ֢ ߅ ָָ ֲָ ֓ ׾ֵ ֮֟, ֮֕ן ִ ֟, ׻֋ ֮֕ן օ

֙ - ׿־ ִֻ֮ ֱֻ ֟ , ֱֻ , ִֻ֮ ִ֕ , ױ ָ ִ-߸ ܵ ֚ פ ֤֟ , ָ ֡ ָߋ ״ֻ ו̿ ִ֮ և , ֲ ֟ , ד֮ ׾ֵ ֤֟ ֋ , ß֮ ֋ , ߸ ֋ ݻ֤ ֋ , ָ™ ׮־ ֲ֤ ֛ ׾ñ ִ ו̿ ꅠ ד֮ ׾ֵ ׻֋ ֟֟ ֻ

ָ ָ ִֻ֮ և , ֣ ׾֮֟ և , ֙ ֋ , ™֤ ֋ , ָ ֯ ׿ֿ ו֋ ֌ ׮֟ ָ-ָ ô֟ ֣ ֮ ֛ ו̿ ִֻ֮ ֤ 20 ֲ֤ ָ ־ ֣ ֟ ִ 20 ֮ܵ ûִ ֱ ֮ ָ ֯ ֟ 80 ־֮ ֛ , ו ֤ ָָ ߅

ָ ֮ פ ָ ֻ ֤ ֟פ ֻ ׮ֿ֮ 㴲և օ ô֟ ׻ ֵֻ ־ Ù֮ ִ֮ ׌ֻֿ ִ ִָ֤ 㴲և ֵ֓օ

ָ ֮ ֮ ָ ָ ֻ ֋, ܟ ֣ ֤֟ ֲֻ ֲ ֲֻ օ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

ָ ׮ִԻ ֯ӛ (ִ-׮֤׿֟): ֳ֯ן , ֲ ֯ ֮֯ ֌ פ, ֻ ߅ ָ ֵ֤ ו֮֟ ָ֮ ָ , ֮ ߅ Ӿ-Ӿ ֕ ָ , ә ߱ ָ ָ֮ ״ֻ ֟ פ ו֮ Ӿ ָָ , ӲӬ ֳ : , ־ֿ MCM/4F ָ ֿ:

MCM-RG/4F/7-40

ָ ׮ִԻ ֯ӛ (֟) : ָ ӡ י ָ פ ꅠ ֵֿ , ֮ ָ օ ֣ ִֻ֮ և- ״ֻ , Ӿ ֳֵߟ , ֋ ֤ ׻֋ ֋ ֤ ִ ֋ , ָ ײֻ և֟ ֮ ָ ֵ ֯ ָ ִ ָ -ִֻ֮ ֯ ָ , ֮ ֟ ֕ ֛ ֣ ֟ ֣ ָ֮ ״ֻߠ , ִ ִ֟ , ו ֙ ָ פ ִ ״ֻ , ֙, ֲִӤ, ֤ ֵ ֵ ָ , ֵ֤ ֛ ֤֕ , ֻ ָ ֋ ָ ӓ ֮ , և ӓ ֺ ֮֟ וֻ 48 ןֿ֟ ִֻ֮ ߓ , , ևԓָ ָ Ӿ ֋ ß֮ ָ , ״ֻ ֻ ֲ ֤ ׻֋ ֯ ִֻ֮ և - ֤ ߠ ֣ ֟ ֮ ָ ֋, ָ ו֋, ִ ߸ ֕ ָ ֋ ִ ֮ ܵ , ִֻ֮ ֮ , ָ ו֋ ָ ָ ֵ 10 ִֻ֮ ָ ֋ ܵ ו֋, ֮֮ ׮ , ִָ ו ו և , 000 , ָ ֻ օ ? ֟ߕ ָ ֵ, Ӿ ָ ֋, ? ָ ӡ ָ ֋ ? ֟ ׮ ָ ֤֟ ָ ֮ ֟ , ֤֟ ֤ ֤֤ ָ ִֻ֮ և- ָ ֋ ָ ֟ , ߸ Ӿ-Ӿ , וֻ-וֻ ͅ ֯ ֟ ߸ , ߸ և ֕ , ևԓָ֠ ֮ ֣ ֟ ָ ֋ ׻֋ ֲ ָ ָ֟ ָ ֋ ָ ֟ ß֮ , ֮ ֮ ׻֋ ִ֮ ׮ ֻ ֟ ײֻ ֻ֟ ֤֟ ֻ ß֮ Ù ֱֻ ֻ , ֲֻ ֤֟ ֻ֟ ß֮ ֮֟ ֱֻ ß֮ ֮֟ ֱֻ ֻ և ָ Ù ֲָ , ָ֤ , ָ ׾ֻ և ָ ֻ ו֮֟ ֤֟ ß֮ ֱֻ ß֮ ֮֟ ֱֻ , ֮ ן , , ևԓָ , ֻ , ׻֋ ֤֟ ָ Ϭ֮ ӡ ֟ ֣ ָ , ֜ꅠ (4G ָ ֿ:)

GS-KS/4G/7.45

ָ ׮ִԻ ֯ӛ (֟) : ֜, ָ ֜ , , ֟ ָ ֮ ֺ ߸ ָ ֟ , ָ ߸ ִõ ָ ׾ßָ ֓ ֕ և, 2006 , ֌ ׮ֵ , ׮ֵ ָ և ָ , ָ ֕ ׮ֵ ן ָ ָ ߤ , ָ ֈ-׿ֵ ֯ ן ו֮ ׾ ֛, ִԮ ׯֵ֮ ׮ֵ֮ ֤õ ֮ ֮ ٣ ׾ 50-60 ֻ ֣ , ָ ֣ - ? ֮ ٣ ׾ ? ֮ ָ߲ ֣ ״ֻ ״֙ ? ־ֻ ׮ֵ ָ ָָ ָ , ָ Ϭ֮ ӡ , ߴ֟ ׮ֵ ן ֵֻ, ֵ ֈ-׿ֵ , -׿ֵ ٣ ֵ֮ ״ֻ ִõֆ ׿ֿ ן , ״ֻ ֲֻ ָ , ן-ִ ֮ , ֮ ָ ֵ ֮ ׻֋ ֲ ״ֻ ֳ֮ן ֮ ֣ ׮ֵ֟ ׻֋ -ִֻ֮ ־ֻ , ײֻ ֟ ִ ָ ־ֻ ֮֟ , ו֮ ֮ և ֤ , ֲ ֺ ֬և ָ -ָ ֤ , ָ - ֣ ֮ ָ ֻ ֮ ָ ֯ , ִ , ״ֻ ֮֟ ָ ָָ ן ֻ ֲֻ ֮֯ ֮ ִֵ פ, ׻֋ ֯ ֳָ ֮־֤ ֵ ֟օ (ִ֯)

00 ֕־ (ִ ߸) : ֳ֯ן , ֮֯ ֮ ִֵ פ, ׻֋ ֯ ֮־֤ 36 ָ ֵ ָ ָ כ , ָ ֛ ׾ßָ ֓ ָ, ִ֟ ػ , ָ ִ ߸ և ꌿ֮ וִ ֳ 77 ָ ػ ֲ 25 ֻ ׸֛ ֤ ֲ ֳ ־ , ֌ ߸ , 30 ػ ָ 960 ֛ , և-ꌿ֮ , ִ ָ ܵ ӡ 66 ָ ״ֻ, ָ ׻֋ ױֲ֤ , ּ ִ ־ , ֟ ߸ 650 ֋֋ ֮֟ , ֛ ֵֿ օ ֟ , - Ùߕ , ָ, , ָ ֲ ػ , ֵ , ָ ֻ֮ ׻֋ ֟ ָ ֲ ״ֻߙ .. (4 ָ ָ)

SC/7.50/4H

..֕־ (֟) : ִ-߸ ֮ ֤ ؙ , ֕ ֮ ׌֙ ֮֟ ׻֋ օ ֲ ָ ،֙ ֋, ֌ , ֲ ָ ֮֮ߵ Ϭִ֮ӡ ֕֯ ߸ ֋, ֌ , ָ ػ ֵ߅ ִֵ-ִֵ ָ ֲ ֟ ִ ֋ , ֲ ָ, ӲӬ ָ ֯ Ϭִ֮ӡ ײָ ֕֯ ֬և , ו֮ ֻ ֈִ ִ-߸ ӛ ָ ֋ ֋, ֋ ֕ ׯ֔ ֜ ߮ ֻ ָָ , ߿֮ ָָ , וִ ֲ֮ 㰟 ֤ ևԤ ܵ ӡ ֕ ִ ֲ ֤֕ ܵ ӡ ֕֯ ׻֋ ֬և ֵֻ օ ֤ ֲ ָ ߋ ָָ ֵ, ֲ ֛ ߌ ֵ֜օ ִ-߸ ֕ ֜ ߮ ֻ ָ ߔ ֋ ֮֟ ֻ ֛ ָ ָ, ֤ 2000 36 ִֵ ָ ֋ ֤ ָ ָ֣ ػ 24 ә 76 ָ ָ ֋ ָ ֻ֌ , וִ -֢ ָ ֋, ִ ״׻֙ օ ָ ־ ָ ָ -֛ ֻ , 36 ָ ֋ ָ ָ ָ ֣ פ , ָ ִ-߸ ׾֡ פ , ָ ֵօ ָ ֮ օ ָ ֟־ָ ִ Ù וִ -ָ ָ ֋ ײ , ֕߯ , Ù ָ , Ꙥ ָ ָ ִֵ ֚ ָ ֙ ֋ ָ ֟ ָ ִ-߸ ֟ ֙ ִ֟ ֕ ׻י ֻ , ֟֓ߟ , ֵֻ ֻ , ׻֋ ֬և , ײָ ֕֯ , ו֮ ߅ ֕ ָ ߸ ٿֲ֤֤ ׻֋ ֻև ֵ, ו ֻ߯ ֻ߯ ֜օ ߕ ״׻֙ ֻ ֻ ֕ ֚ ָ ػ , 6 ָ ػ , ֕ ֲ 77 ָ ևÙ ػ , ֕ ֻ ֟ ֋ ֻ ִ ֌׸ ־ֻ 32 ߙ ׸ , -֕, - ׸ , , ָ , , ֮ ֤ פ ֟ ִֵ ֣ - ִ ָ ֋, ִ ִֻ֮ ָ ֋, ִ ָ ֋ ״׻֙ , ֮ ׌֙ ׻֋ ֜ ߮ ֻ ֲ ֛ , ֲ ִ ߸ ߿֮ ָָ ֮ , ߛ߯ , , וִ ִܵӡ 㰟 ֤ ևԤ ִ ֲ ֤֕ ָ ֟ ָ ָ ָָ , ߋ , ָ ָ ֚Ӭ֮ ָָ , ָ ִ ֌׸ ָ ߔ ֋, ֲ ֛ߋ ָָ 6 ֻ , ִ ֲ ֤ ָ֟ Յ ָ ߔ ֋ ו ֌ ָ և..ָֻ , ֌ օ ߔ ֋ ֲ , ֲ .. , ֌ ָ֟ ߸ ִõ , 1947 ß֮ ß֮ әָ ָ և ׸ ֵօ և ׸ ֻ ֟ ָ ֟ ֮ ָ , ָ , ֻ ִõ ֌ ֲ 1846 ָ֕ ֕ߟ ִ-߸ ֕ ָ ִ-߸ ß֮ ׸ ӕֲ ׸ , ײי ־֮Դ օ ֕ߟ ֕ ֤ ֲ 1846 Ù ֛և ߓ , ָ֕ ֕ߟ ֌ ָ , ֌ ֕ , ָ֕ ֲ Ù ֵ ו ֌ ֮֙ , 1947 , פ ֕ ִõ ֮ ָ ß֮ ׿ֿ ߅ ָ 1965 ׸ ־ָ ԅ ִ-߸ ֬և , ִֻ֮ (4 ָ ֿ:)

MP/KGG/4j/7.55

.. ֕־ (֟) : , և , ו֮ ״ֻ ״׻֙ ֲֻ օ ָ ֬և ָ - ִ ָ ִ , ״׻֙ , ׻ - ו֮ ֮ ֯ և ״׻֙ ׿ ָ ִ-߸ ֮֓ ׻֋ ׮ֵ ֕ ָ ״׻֙ , , ָ ֟ ָ ״׻֙ , ֵ֤ ֮, ָָ , ֲ Ӕ ֟ , ֟ ,

֕ ֟ , farflung ׸֕ ֟ , ״׻֙ ִ ... ָָ ... ָָ , ָ ו֮֟ ׻י ٙ , ִ-߸ ׻֋ ִ֣Ԯ פ , ו ֕ ֕ ִ-߸ ״׻֙ ֟ ״׻֙ ֜ և , ߤ ֟ ָ ו֮֟ ׻י ٙ , ֳ ״׻֙ ֟ , ֲ ֲ ״ֻ ֲֻ ָ ֟-֟ ә ... ֮ -

"ֻ ֵ ֲ ֮,

ֲ ֕ ֻ ֮"

ָ, ֯ ֮־֤ ֮֯ ֮ ׻֋ ִֵ פ, ֵ (ִ֯)

THE MINISTER OF HOME (SHRI SHIVRAJ VISHWANATH PATIL): Sir, I have some papers with me, and with your permission I lay these on the Table of the House and I will refer to these papers also.

ֳ֯ן : Ù , circulate

SHRI SHIVRAJ VISHWANATH PATIL: Papers have been given to the Secretariat and they will give it to you also. I am going to read these papers and you can refer to them later also.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: He has authenticated and laying certain papers on the Table. (Interruptions)

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: When he is quoting from the document, that should be available to the Members. The basis of his reply...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Usually when some document is authenticated, it is not circulated. It is not a statement of the Minister which will be circulate. It is simply an authentication and copies are available, they can be made use of. (Interruptions) Duly authenticated.

֤ߵ ֵ ӡֵֻ ֕ ӡ ( ֓) : ָ, ָֻ ״׮Ù ָ duly authenticated circulation ֟ , Ù circulate signature ֣ ָ ָ ֯ע , ֮֮ߵ ֤õ ֯ ֋....(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֲ ֯ ֋, ֲ ֯ע ו֋օ ...(־֮֬)....

.. ׻ֵ : ֲ ֮ ׸և ֮ .... (־֮֬)....

ֳ֯ן : ֱ , ׸և ... (־֮֬)... It is not a statement of the Minister that is circulated.

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: Sir, I have a small submission and it is up to you to give a ruling.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Copies are available, if the House agrees, we will get them circulated.

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: If we do anything, we create precedence for the future generation. That is why, I just want to submit to you that whenever you are using any paper as a basis of your reply, which was not in the House, which was not under its domain, which is not available, which is not under my knowledge, now out of the blue if you bring some paper, I am not aware of that paper. A copy should be provided to the Member, who is going to listen to you.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Some times, some authenticated papers are laid on the Table of the House. (Interruptions)

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: That is a separate issue which comes in the List of Business. Even if it is listed in the List of Business, if I have an objection, I can raise it and it is up to the Chairman to give a ruling.

ֳ֯ן : ֋, Copies are available and they will be distributed. ׻ֵ , ...(Interruptions)

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: If copies are available they should be distributed to the Members, that is all.

SHRI SHIVRAJ VISHWANATH PATIL: This is exactly what I was trying to say. I have written a letter, copies are here; if you had sat down, I would have explained to you in a minute's time. We have given copies, written the letter, I am authenticating and laying it on the Table of the House also.

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN [SHRI KALRAJ MISHRA] IN THE CHAIR

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