PREVIOUS HOUR

VP/ASC/5.00/2X

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY (CONTD.): Sir, there is one more issue on which I wanted to know this point from the hon. Minister. Since the MCD also comes under the purview of the hon. Minister, I would like to know this from him. Regarding the restructuring of the DDA, the MCD and the NDMC, I raised a Special Mention in this august House. Then, they said that they had appointed a committee under the Chairmanship of Shri Ashok Pradhan, a retired IAS Officer; they would go only for retired IAS officers and to suggest ways and means for restructuring those three organisations, they would submit a report. This has been stated in this august House. Sir, the Government should have a clear-cut policy because now the entire blame is on the Delhi Government. The Delhi Government is being blamed. The people of Delhi are blaming the State Government. Sir, it is the collective responsibility of the Urban Development Ministry and the State Government. Since the hon. Minister is now getting one-year time, we should not think that it is only for the purpose of buying time. It is a feeling coming in the minds of the hon. Members. Sir, there should be a concrete policy by this Government; by the Government of India and also by the Delhi Government. I appreciate the hon. Minister of State for Urban Development who has clearly said that illegal construction should be removed and in respect of unauthorised construction, wherever possible, those people who have been genuinely occupying the places should be given relief.

Sir, in Delhi, there are residential buildings and the commercial use of those buildings has been going on for years together. How can you overnight say that there should not be any commercial activity in a house?" Sir, I will give one example. A person who lives on the second floor does business on the ground floor. Therefore, Sir, he is helping the Government by not using his vehicle because he is living there itself. The parking problem is not there. He is not travelling for long. He is living on the first floor or on the second floor and he is doing business on the ground floor. Why is that not being considered? Sir, the lawyers have their offices; small offices there. They say that you should not have an office there. In case of a doctor, they say that you should not have a consultation room there. It is impracticable. I would like to submit to the hon. Minister that these are the issues that you have to address. People who have been living there for years together are doing business on the ground floor or on the first floor and living on the second floor. How can you tell them overnight that you should not have business in that area? These are the real issues which the hon. Minister has to address. Now the core issue is that the hon. Minister has to categorise the unauthorised construction. You will have to help the genuine people. You should take tough measures against people who are having illegal constructions by violating all norms. There is encroachment on the Government lands. The hon. Minister should consider that. Encroachments should be removed. People who are living in the slum areas should be given proper protection and places to live. These are the important things which you have to address. Bringing a Bill, getting one year and, thereafter, coming to this House for another year, is not going to solve the problem of the people of Delhi. I am grateful to the hon. Minister that Rs. one lakh crore have been allotted for the Jawahar Lal Nehru Urban Renewal Mission. Delhi should be given more funds for the purpose of providing the basic infrastructure to all those people. There are people doing business on the pavement area. What are you going to do about them? People are living on the pavement. What are you going to do for them? Therefore, it should be comprehensively addressed by the hon. Minister. I emphasise that the people living in the urban slums should be given proper protection by this Urban Development Ministry and the Delhi Government. With these words, I support the Bill. (Ends)

ָ֮ (׸) : ֳ֬ , ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֮֮ߵ ֕ ӡ ֮־֤ וֿ֮ ֙ ֮־֤ ֕ ָָ פ Ù ֲֻ 껵֮ ֕ ו֮֟ כ , ִ ֲ֮ ֻ Ù פ - , ו ֮֮ߵ Ͼֻ פ ֻ ֲ ֋ ָ פ ֻܵ פ ? ֵ֟ ֵ֠ ֮ ֓ (ֿ: 2Y ָ) NB/2Y/5.05

ָ֮ (֟) : ו ָ ïߛ ֻ popular feeling , ֲ 2 ֲ֤ خ ֕ ֱ ״ֻ ֲ֤ 85 ӡ , ׸ , popular feeling , כÙ פօ ָ , ֕ 400 ֻ , ָ ֕ ִֵ ִ ֻ-Ù ָ ֮, -֙ ֋, ׻ ָ intact ֵօ ֮ פ ֻ ? ָָ , ָָ , ֟ ֮ ֮ ֻ פ flyover allow , ߓ allow , flyover ߠ beauty כÙ ָ Ӥ ָ , ֲ ֮֯ ֻ-Ù allow ָ original city , ֮ פ

, ֮֯ ֵ֟ clusters ֤֤ ָ ֤ , unauthorized colonies 1,200 ߲ , ָ ֯ ׻״֙ ֆ ֕ ֤ unauthorized colony ֮߅ 5 ֻ ꌿ֮ allow , ֲ ꌿ֮ ֟ , ֤ ֕ ֤ ָ - 20 ֻ ֮ colonies ֜ ײֻ ֯ ֮ ו֋ ֕ ֤ פ ֮߅ ؕ 1985 ֤ ؕ ֮֯ ֜ և outsider ؕ ָ օ ֯ ֯ ״ֻ ֋, , ָ ֻ Ù ָ , ֻ֟ ו֮֟ ָ colonies ֮ ֯ ׾֮֟ ֻ ֮ , ִ ֯Ͼ ֮, ֻ ָ ꅠ ֛ ֟ ֤ פ ׻֋ ׸ , פ ָָ ײֻ ignore , ֮ ֮

, , ָ , ׻֋ ֮ ָ ִ , ߮ ׮ֻ ֙ ߻ և Sanik Farm ֲ ֻ ֮, ֮և, ױ ָָ allow օ ֯ unauthorized ֵ ֮ ֟ , Sanik Farm ָ ֮ ָ ֲ ִ ֻ օ ֛ Farm , ׻֋ ָ ָָ

, ָ ֛ ִ , ָָ ׻֋ ״ֻ ֌ ָ - ֻ , ֟ ָ ֻ ֮ ֓ ָ underground parking ֮և ָ ֮ , colonies ֻ jointly ֮ ? ֻ ִ ֮ ֜ ֛-֛ colonies ֟ ֛և ָ և ֋Ӆ

, ׾֮֟ religious places , ָ sentimental approach ֲ ֋, ׮֙ ֣ ֿ׾ָ ֋, ָ ֛ ֜ ֛ ׻֋ ָָ ׻Ù ֮֋ ױ ד֟ ֵԾ

, ָ ֯ ׸߱ , ִ ֯ ֮ ֺ ֋, ו֮ ֮ ָ ײֻ ֮֯ ׸߱ ? ו֮ affidavit פ, ֓ ֋, ָ ֛ , ֮ ֵօ ֮ ֮ ֟ ִ֯ ֮־֤ (ִ֯)

ִ ֻ ֳϾֻ (ӕֲ) : ֳ֬ , פ ׾׬ ׾֬, 2006 ִ֣Ԯ ׻֋ ֛ ׯ֔ 6 ߮ פ ֻ , , ָ ֟ ֟ ִֵ ......

2Z/AKG ָ

AKG/2Z/5.10

ִ ֻ ֳϾֻ (֟) : ֟ ִֵ ... (־֮֬) ...

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIAN): Please take only five minutes.

ִ ֻ ֳϾֻ : 5 ״֮֙ ֟ օ פ , ׻ ֲ פ ָ , Ϥ , פ ß֮ פ ß֮ Ϥ ֮ - ָ֯ ֲ ָ֯, ִ ֟ ֟ , ô ֮ ״֮֙ ׻֋ ֻ ֛ ֟ ֮ ׸ָ ֻ֮- ׸ָ - Ϥ , ֛ ָ֮ , פ ֮ ӡ ׻֋ ֛ י ִõ י ִõ ֤֮֟ , ֮ , , ׬ָ, ו֮ ׮ִ ֮֮ ׻֋ ֕֟ , ו֮ י ִõ ֮ פ, ׿֮ܟ ֕ ֳ ֈ ֟ ד׮֟ ָ ֋ ֕ ׮ִԆ ֟ , , , ו֮ ֮ ִ֤ ֤ ֵ֤֤ ֮ , ׿֮ܟ ֮

ֳ֬ , פ ָ ֻ , ו֮ ֵ ֮ , ֯׸ ֮ , ָ ָָ ָ ֮ ָ ֤ ֮ օ ӡ , ׾֮֟ ײֻ ֮֟ ִֵ ߕ ֮ 녠 , פ ô ֮ ־׵ և ָ֯ ֻ ֳ 15 20 ןֿ֟ և ׾ֿ וÙ ӕ ֮ 1994 ԟ -ڴ ֻ , פ ָ ׮ִ 1957 ԟ ֤ ӕ և ֤ ӕ ϴ֯֡ ߮ ֻ פ ָ ׮ִ և ֻև , ן ָָ ׾ָ֓ ? ָ ӡ ֮ ֮ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ӕ ־׵ և ָ ֮ ׾֬ ï™ և ִ֟ ֵֵֻ ׮֤ ָ ֯׸ ״ֻ߅

, ߛߋ ߛ ֻ 16 ןֿ֟ ־ֵ-ָ֯ ֺ פ , ֲ פ ֲ֤ ׯ֔ և ָ ׸ֵֿ -ڴ - ָ֯ פ ٿֵֻ ָ֕ ֱ Ù ֮ 15 כÙ ٿֵֻ ֮֮ ־֮֬ , ָָ ֻ 3 ֮֮ ֲִֵ

, ֮֮ߵ ߴ և ֤ ָ֧֕ ֟ ־ ֲ ָָ ֤ ӕ ֻ և ֮֟ (3/֋֋ ָ ֿ:)

3A/HMS-SKC/5.15

ִ ֻ ֳϾֻ (֟) : և ָָ ־ֵ ֻ֮ ׻֋ פ ָ ׮ִ , 1957 ߮ և ָָ ֲ ֮ ֮֟ ֻ ־ã ד֟ ָָ ״֌Û ӛ þן ׸ֵֿ ϲӬ ָ ָ ׸ָ ֣ ֮ ׻֋ և ָ ֲ֕ ֋ ֮֮ߵ ӡ ֱ׸ ײػ և ӿ֮ ֲ ־׵ ָ֯ և ֮֟ ֻ ֻ ״ֻ ֮ ָ ׸ ׸ָ ֻ ֋

ֿ ׾֬ ־֮֬ ֋ ֻ , ֮ ־֮ ֮ , ו֮ ָ ß ֣ ָ ֻ֮ ֛ ׿ ֟ , ׮ִ ָ ܟ ִ ֻ Ӥ פ ׮ִ ֲ ֣ ֯ - ֮־֤ ֯ ִõ ָ ֮ ָ פօ (ִ֯)

ֵ ֿ Ͼֻ : ָ, , ֱ ֜ ֮ , ֱ ֱ ֮ ֟ :

" ִֻ וֲ ֺ,

ָ ֮ ßָ ָ ֋"

֮ , , ֟ ָ , ֟

ֵָ : ָ, פ ָ ֣֮ פ ֵָ ֵ, ָ ӡ ֮ ֟

ֳ֬ (0 00 ׸֮) : , ߕօ

ֵָ : , פ ꌙ 15 ...

ֳ֬ : ך-ך, ߕօ

ֵָ : ָ ֣֮ פ ָ פ ֵօ ..(־֮֬)... ֵ ־֕ פ ֋օ

ֳ֬ : ך, ֯ ך

ֵָ : 80 ֻ ֮ פ ָ ־֮ ֟


THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIAN): Mr. Minister, please. Mr. Minister, please.

ֵָ : ָ 8

ֳ֬ : ך-ך

ֵָ : ָ߲ Ϥ ֋ ֯ ?

ֳ֬ : ך ״Ù ߕօ

ֵָ : ־֕ ָ , ֮־֤ ..(־֮֬)... ׮ִ օ ָ ָ ֣֮ פ ֮֮ ־ã և

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Please, don't do like this.

ֵָ : ׮ִ օ ...(־֮֬)... ׮ִ ֙ ָ ...(־֮֬)... ־֮ ֟ 80 ֻ ֮ פ ֯ ֋, ָ ִ , פ ꌙ 15 ָ ֣֮ פ ֵָ ֵօ

THE VICE-CHAIRMAN : Only what Minister says will go on record...(interruptions)... That will not go on record. Now I have called the Minister.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Mr. Vice-Chairman, at the outset, I must thank all the hon. Members of Parliament who have participated in the discussion and made well-considered, constructive suggestions. I must thank everybody, from all sides of the House, including the main Opposition, for having lent support to this Bill. I thank Shrimati Sushmaji for lending support. But while lending support, she kicked up dust of partisan contention. Therefore, I am obliged to set the records straight.

Sir, this crisis, huge as it is, could have been avoided if the NDA Government had finalised the Master Plan Delhi 2021 when it was in power for six long years. (Contd. by 3B/KSK)

KSK/PSV/5.20/3B

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD): (Interruptions) No, I am referring to Master Plan Delhi, 2021. This could have been done during your period. I must also draw your attention to another thing.

(MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair)

There was a Committee appointed by the Government of Delhi which had Prof. Malhotra and late Jag Pravesh Chandra, which made recommendations to liberalise the situation in Delhi. The NDA Government rejected the recommendations in a merciless manner. The then Minister, Mr. Jagmohan, disdained the recommendations. If only the NDA Government were more perspicacious, were more compassionate, this situation might have been avoided. Sushmaji said, "Why could the Ordinance not be promulgated?" As I have said elsewhere, I need to repeat that the situation then was evolving. You may kindly note that both the Houses of Parliament were adjourned sine die on 23rd March. But, as early as 5th April, Parliament was summoned again to meet on 10th May. So, since 15th April, after the Parliament had been summoned, the option of Ordinance was not open to me.

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: One House could be prorogued because the rule is that if either of the Houses is not in session, you can bring the Ordinance. One House could have been prorogued.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Notices had been issued. Therefore, we were advised by the legal authorities that Ordinance route was not open to us. Then, she said that the Bill could have been brought earlier. After all, the Parliament, the other House worked only on Friday. We have got the Bill passed and we could not have come earlier than Monday. It is obvious. I am, however, thankful to them for having facilitated this process. But, I am only trying to mention this to say that we were not guilty of any delay or dithering in the matter.

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: Mr. Reddy, you said that the House was adjourned, this and that. Perhaps, your Government was more busy in saving the Office of Profit issue rather than saving the demolitions in Delhi.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Yes, while your party was busy losing deposit in Rae Bareily.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Let us not move from the main subject.

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: I may remind him of Kerala and West Bengal

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ִ ? ...(־֮֬)... פ ֟ ו֋, ֯ - ? ...(־֮֬)...

0 ֮ : ָ, פ ֟ , ֲֵָ ֋ ...(־֮֬)...

ֳ֯ן : ֯ ױ ױ ָ ֋, ֲֵָ ֋ ...(־֮֬)... ֵ ָ ֋, ֯ ֟ ...(־֮֬)...

0 ֮ : ֟ ֻ ֤ פ ߅ ...(־֮֬)...

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: In Delhi, we are facing an extraordinary situation. Millions of residents of Delhi are, rightly or wrongly, on the wrong side of law. Even as a Cabinet Minister, I may make bold to say that millions of people in Delhi are on the wrong side of the law. There must be something wrong with the law itself. (continued by 3c)

SK/3c/5.25

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD.): We are, therefore, facing a huge systemic crisis. You cannot set it right by saying that no irregularity will remain. It would be like Savonarola telling people of Rome 'I would rather burn down Rome than put up with sin'. I can't be Savonarola or Nadir Shah. Therefore, we need to realise that this is a problem which has developed over decades. Delhi was not built in a day; nor shall we allow Delhi to be demolished in a day. I agree with Mr. Arun Jaitley when he offered his analysis on situation in Delhi. But, I am afraid I will not share his legal pessimism. This Bill does take care of legal aspects in our view adequately. I draw the attention of the House to Section 3 (1), "Notwithstanding anything contained in any relevant law or any rules, regulations or bye-laws made thereunder, the Central Government shall within a period of one year of the coming into effect of this Act, take all possible measures to finalise norms, policy guidelines and feasible strategies to deal with the problem of unauthorised development with regard to the under-mentioned categories" and so on and so forth. This Bill directs the Government of India and its agencies to perform certain tasks. The laws referred to in this section have been defined in the above sections. I am not getting into such detail. Therefore, in Section 3 (2), we said 'subject to the provisions contained in sub-section 3 (1)' and then I said notwithstanding any decree from the court. Therefore, I believe that legality of the Bill cannot be seriously questioned. However, this moratorium has been provided not only to provide relief to the affected, but to provide breathing time to the apparatus of the Government also. Having regard to the magnitude of the problem, we need a time. This has been widely appreciated in this House. I am thankful to all sides of the House for this appreciation.

Jai Parkash Aggarwalji was wondering as to what would happen to those who have filed affidavits; whether the sealed shops will be de-sealed. I believe, once this becomes law, all the shops will be de-sealed and those who filed affidavits will not be affected even after the last week of June. This is our understanding. This is the understanding given to me by our law officers. The Supreme Court was only dealing with one aspect of the system, namely, shopkeepers. That is a very important aspect. There are nearly half a million shops, big medium and small. But, there are also other categories of people who are equally huge, if not larger, in number, such as, slum-dwellers, hawkers and those people who, for compelling reasons, took recourse to some kind of unauthorised construction. (Contd. by 3d-YSR)

-SK/YSR-AKA/5.30/3D

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD.): Relief has to be provided to all these categories. Therefore, this Bill does not provide relief only to shopkeepers, it provides relief to all the other categories.

As for slum-dwellers, Mr. Tarlochan Singhji is not here, I don't share his world view. I don't think poor people can be wished away from our metropolises. I don't know whether we can follow the example of Lahore or Beijing. We operate under different systems. Our system has its own strengths and weaknesses. Our strength is that we allow the poor to coexist with the rich. It is not our weakness. Let the millionnaires wallow in the lap of luxury. But, we must remember, it is the people who come from slums that provide this lap. Without poor people I don't think rich people can live comfortably on their own. This is the reality that needs to be kept in view not merely from the viewpoint of social equity, but from the viewpoint of dire necessity.

In this crisis also, I see silver lining. I see silver lining in this dark cloud. You can see this opportunity to set right the system, to set right the Master Plan, to look at Delhi from a new perspective. Earlier, the planners had their visions. Their visions were wonderfully enshrined in their Master Plans. But they did not have adequate relationship to the ground realities. Now, the time of reckoning has come. While preserving the dreams, while promoting the dreams, we shall accommodate the harsh field realities as well. This crisis can be used with beneficial use. Since many Members were tempted to indulge in sharo-shairy, I may quote Shakespeare, and say, "Sweet are the uses of adversity, which, like a toad, though ugly and venomous, wears yet a precious jewel in its head." So, there is a precious jewel in today's dismal situation in Delhi. We need to remind ourselves of these positive potentialities.

Sir, references have been made to unauthorised colonies. There are as many as 1400 unauthorised colonies in which more than two million people live. I have already taken steps to get these unauthorised colonies regularised. I have moved a Cabinet Note in this direction. Hawkers' policy is in place. You cannot, with a magic wand, banish hawkers from Delhi, because they are obstructing some streets. They are running into lakhs of people. We need to accommodate them in a more orderly fashion, and we shall do so.

I want to tell Mr. Prasanta Chatterjee, Mr. Azmi, and Prof. Ram Deo Bhandaryji that we shall never neglect the needs of the poor. As I said before, the poor are required for the service of the rich as well.

Some references have been made to the collusion between those who are indulging in irregularities and the engineers and staff members.

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ֳ֯ן , ӡ ָ-ָ ֟ , ִӟ־֤ Ͼע ԟ , ָ ׸ߙ օ ߸ -׾֬ ׻֋ ָ߲ ֺ ? ֟ ֵ֤ ׾ֳ ־֙ ׻׾֋֮ ֟

('3e/sch' ָ ָ)

VKK-SCH/3e/5.35

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ (֟): ָ פ ̸߲ ֺ , ߸ -׾֬ ׻֋ ֲ ־֙ ׾֋֮ ꅠ ָ-ָ ׸׻Ù ֵ֮, ִӟ־֤ ֵ֮ ߸ -׾֬ ׻֋ ָ߲ ֺ , ߸ -׾֬ ׻֋ ָ߲ ֺ ֲ ֯ ֟ ֮֋ ֋ ߸ -׾֬ֆ ׻֋ ̸߲ ֺ ? ? ? ֯ ֯ߵָ ֓ ִ ֵ, ̻֟ , ָ ׸ߙ

ֳ֯ן: ִ֋

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ֻ֟ ׻ֵ, ֟

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: He is concerned with the poor people. (Interruptions)

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: What a transformation of my friend, Mr. Jaipal Reddy, from a socialist to the market economist!

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ׯ֙׻Ù ߸ ׾֬ ׻֋ ̸߲ ֺ

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, it is difficult to awaken those who are pretending to sleep. (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: That is why I am trying to awaken you. (Interruptions)

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: No, no. Anyway, we shall a have reasonable heated debate, if necessary and occasioned, but you must know that while empathising with the poor, I am arguing with the advocates of the rich like you that poor are also necessary for you. That was the point I was trying to make. If you didn't understand...(Interruptions)...

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: I am happy that now you are changing your interpretation. What we understood was ...(Interruptions)...You wanted to justify the existence of poor.

ֳ֯ן: ݻֿ ִ ...(־֮֬)

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: You wanted to justify the existence of poor in order that the rich should live in comfort. That is the contention we contest seriously. Is this co-existence of poverty with richness? I think it is not in your Common Minimum Programme.

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: He is regularising all the colonies.

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ֯ ֟ Ùև ...(־֮֬) you are justifying the existence of poor for the comfort of rich people; for the comforts of rich, they are necessary.

..׻ֵ: ָ, ̸߲ ̸߲ ָ ִ֮

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Why don't you allow me to answer? (Interruptions)

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: The existence of poor is necessary for the comforts of the rich. I don't believe in this.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The Minister will reply. (Interruptions)

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: Sir, because there will be rich people, so both will live in comfort. So, poor people are necessary (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no. That was not the intention.

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: This is unconstitutional. This is against the Constitution.

SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: This is an abuse.

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ִӟ־֤ ̸߲ ָ߲ ֮ , ָ -׾֬ֆ ׻֋ ָ ֺ ?

 

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What is this? (Interruptions) You leave the matter to me. Why don't you let me explain?

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕: ָ, ̸߲ ß֟ ד֟֯ ߸ -׾֬ֆ ׻֋ ̸߲ ֺ , ָ ֯ ָ߲ ß֟ ד֟֯

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please listen to him.

SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ: I am listening to you. This is an insinuation.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no. This is not the intention.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Let me tell you that you are hell bent upon putting perverse construction on a sentence of mine. You know that the construction is wrong. When you do it wilfully, I can't help it.

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: We are not doing anything wilfully. It is the impression of the hon. Minister, who is a learned friend of mine, a very esteemed friend. That is the impression we got. (Interruptions)

ֳ֯ן: ֯ ׻֋, whatever you want to say, you say.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I am really happy to note the transformation in Mr. Joshi's personality. He has suddenly become a champion of the poor.

DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI: I have always been. I have never transformed like you.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I continue to be socialist. (Interruptions) May I also tell the House, Sir, that the MCD dismissed as many as 17 senior engineers by taking recourse to article 3(11) of the Constitution. It is one of the harshest measures ever taken in the history of India. It has been done in the last few weeks in Delhi. So, we are not going to spare those who are a privy to illegalities.

(Contd. by RSS/3f)

RSS/MCM/3F/5.40

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (CONTD.): We are also not unmindful of the need to develop Delhi into a world-class city. Mr. Manohar Joshi and Mr. V. Narayanasamy have both reminded us of the obligation to see that further encroachments do not take place. If you have read the Bill carefully, it would be evident that the exemption is not applied at all, either prospectively or retrospectively, to encroachments on public land, or to on-going illegal encroachments. Mr. Manohar Joshiji, with his vast experience in Mumbai, told us that we must take care of all other major cities. He knows fully well that urban development is an exclusive State subject. Even so, the UPA Government has launched a big scheme, known as Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Development Mission, under which we will try to provide assistance to all the major cities.

As for the place of worship, I would like to make it clear that places of worship, particularly of ancient vintage, will be protected. I cannot refer to individual places. But, our policy is to see that we do not re-enact the tragedy that occurred in Vadodara.

Sir, I have tried to refer to as many points as possible. With these few observations, I once again thank all the Members for their support to the Bill, and I seek their support with these observations. (Ends)

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY : Sir, I have one clarification. I may be permitted. I did not speak on the Bill.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: The Minister has already replied.

SHRI RAVULA CHANDRA SEKAR REDDY: Sir, the most essential part about which the hon. Minister has not spoken, is about the compensation or rehabilitation of those who have lost their houses and their livelihood. Whether any thinking is there on the part of the Government to help those people who have lost their houses by virtue of demolition.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Without proper homework, I won't be able to make a comment. But, our public finance institutions, I am sure, will be more than willing to lend support to such affected persons.

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ָ, ־ֻ -֛ ֋ ӡ , ֯ Ͽ ֯ ִֵ ֯ ־ֲ ꅠ ߕ ֯ ֋ ֮֯ ־ֻ פ ֻ ָ ױ׾֙ פ ?

ֳ֯ן : ױ׾֙ ־ֲ פ

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : ו֮ ֮ ָ ػ և , ָ ?

ֳ֯ן : ־ֲ פ

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ : , ָ

SHRI S.JAIPAL REDDY: Since the powers of misunderstanding of Smt. Sushma Swaraj are very high, I think, I need to repeat. All those who filed affidavits, are covered by the benefits to be conferred by this law. Their shops will remain open beyond June, irrespective of decrees of the court. As for the shops which have been sealed, they will be de-sealed after this Bill becomes a law.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Now, the question is:

That the Delhi Laws (Special Provisions) Bill, 2006, as passed by

Lok Sabha, be taken into consideration.

The motion was adopted.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: We shall now take up clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill.

Clauses 2 to 5 were added to the Bill.

(contd. by 3g)

MKS/GS/5.45/3G

 

Clause 1, the Enacting Formula, the Preamble

and the Title were added to the Bill.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, I beg to move:

That the Bill be passed.

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

(Ends)

RE.: DODA KILLINGS -- (CONTD.)

0 ֮ (ָ Ϥ) : ֳ֯ן , ֯ ֳָ ֮֯ , ֯ ׾ֵ ָ ֓ ן ӡ ֳָ ֤ ָ֬ ֤ ן ֮ ִ֮ ־ ֌ , ׻֋ ֳָ ֵ֤ ß ֵ֤

ֳ֯ן , ؓ֟ ֓ ָ Ͽ ָ ִ , ִ֮ ׸š ״֡ 0 , ֕ ִֵ ָ֕ , ֻ֕֯ , ֤--׸֟ ֕ ֟״ ִ , ߛ ִ

ֳ֯ן , ־ֻ ֮֕ן ֙ ֙ ߓ ־ֻ ֮֟ , ־ֻ ִϤ׵ ֮ ָ ׸ãןֵ ֟ ֟ , ִֵ ׾ֿ ָ ָ ִֵ ֟ ִ ִֻ֮ ֲ ֟ , ֣ ִϤֵ ד֟ ™ ־ֻ , ™ ־Գ״ ־ֻ , ӛ ־ֻ ™ ׾µ ־ֻ ֻ ã֮ߵ ֙ ֮ ד֟ օ

֯ ִ֮ ֙ š״ ן ָ - ֮ ֟ ֿ߸ ִ Ϥ , ִ ߸ ֕ ß֮ ֮ ֮ ׻֋ ֕ , ׻ þ֬߮֟ ֿ֟ ֮ ߸ ָ ֻ , ן ֟ , ֮ ֛և ֛ ִ ָ-ָ ָ ߅ ָ ֳ ׸ , ֳ ִϤֵ ׸ , , ִֻ֮ , ֣ ֛և ֛ ß֮ ׿ß ߅

ֲ ß֮ ִ ׻ֵ ߬ ָ ߸ ָ ך , ֮ ׻֋ ָ ß ֵ֮ ִ ß ֤֟ -ә֙ ָ ָ ָ כÙ , destablish ֮ ϵ օ ִִ ִ- ֙ֆ ֮ , ֤ ֻ , ֻ , š״ ִ ß֮ ֤ ? ֤ ֤ ֮ ֮ , ־ֵ ִ֮ ֟ ֮ , ֲ ֕ ß֮ ֮ ֤ ײֻ , ו doggedly , ו֤ ֣ ֮ ֣, ֮ן ֣ ֮ ׻֋ ִ ׯ֔ ֻ ß֮ ֻ֟ פ (3 ָ ָ)

SC/5.50/3H

0 ֮ (֟) : ֮ 1986 ָ ֯ օ þ ֕߾ Ӭ ״ֻ ֲ , ׸ ֋, , ִ ָ ־ã֋ ֵ ׾֤ ß ֵ ֵ ߸ ִ Ϥ ׾ֳ ֮ , ֮ ך ֲ ֮ "You should comb out all these infiltrators and all these foreign elements from Jammu and Kashmir". ֣ ֛ ִֵ ֮ ָ ֟ ָ ֮ פ, ֮ פ ֮ օ ָ ָ ߴ֋ , ߴֆ ו֮֟ ̲֕ ֣ ֟ ֮ - ָָ ָ ָָ ָ י - ו ־֕ ֣ ֮ , ֮ ֟ߕ ִ-߸ ߴ֋ , ײֻ , ֮-֮, ־ִ֮ ֮ ךև , ֮ ִօ ױ ֤֟ ֙֋ , ֲ ִ֮ ִֵ ֮ ß֮ ָ ϵ ߸ ֙ ֳ -ִֻ֮ ֮ ׻֋ ֲ֕ - , ֲָ֢ ִֻ֮ , , ֧ ֻ - ֲ ֻ ֵ , ï™ פև օ ֤֟ ֮ ָ ߴ ָ օ ִֵ ״ֻ , ָ߮ ֻ ָ ֮ ֠ ָ ןָ ӛ ֮ օ ִֵ ֮ ֻ֟ , , ׻ֵ ֲָָ ֻ֟ ֲ , ֲ ֻ ֓ ߙ ָ ִ ׾ñ , ֵ ֵ, և ֵֻ ֵ , և ֕ ָ և ֵ߅ ָ ךև ִֵ, ֮ 1991 ֲ ߸ כ ׮ֻ ֋, ִֵ ֮ ָ-ָ , ֯ ¯׸ִ ָ ׸ãן ֮ ֟ ִֵ ֟ ָ ֮ פ ֵ ߸ כ ׮ ֮ פ ֵօ ֛ ָ ֙ ָ ן ӣ ׮ָ , ꌵָ , ֮ ֛ ָ ֮ և ִֻ օ ß־ ָ ӵ㌟ ™ ӑ ֟ և , ß֮ ָ ֋ ֮ ֻ ׮ ָ և օ ֮ ן , ׾׮֕ , ߸ ׾׮֕ , ™ ֵ, ֛ ֵ ֕ ֮ ן ױ ־ ֮ ϲӬ ָ ߣ ã֮ ָ ߣ ã֮ ֟ ֮ ֮-֮ ־ã ֺ ϲӬ , ִ ָ-ָ ךև ֟ ֮ ָ֣ ֡ ָ ךև ֋, ָ ߕ ָ ֮ פ ֋, ֯ ֟ ָָ , ָ ֯ , ִֻ ָ ߻ ָ ֋, ִֻ ֮ ָ ־֮֬ ָ ֟ ָ ¯׸ִ , ֟ ß֮ כև , ß֮ ָ ָ ߸ ֙ ֤ ױ ִ , ֻ֟ פ ֋ ף׮ , ָ , և, ֲ ִ֬ ָ ™֌ , ֳָ֌ ׳׮ ׻֋ ֲ֕ פ ֋, ן ִ פև (3 ָ ֿ:)

MP/3J/5.55

. ֮ (֟) : ߸ ֙ ãן ֱ ߸ כ ֧ , ֮ܵ , ֕ ܵ ֮ և ֮ ֮֋ ֋, ׾־-פ ָ ֛ ֤ ִ ָ ךև և ֲ֮֨ ָ ֮ܵ ܵ ֤ פ ֵ ֮ וִ ߸ ֙ ִ - ָ ױ פ ֵ , ֮ܵ ӟָ פ ֵ ֮ܵ ֋, ָ ׻֋ ֳ֌ ֟ ָ ִ ָ ֮ ֻ , ֟։ , ãן ִֻ֮ ׻֋ ֋, ־֮ , ָ ֌ , ֮ ߸ ֙ օ ױ ֲ֕ ӟ ֮ ֛, ֣ ״ֻ ֮ ֛ ָ ֮ ֕ Ӹ פ ֮ܵ ׮ ֮ פ, ָ ךև ֋߅ ֯ ֮֟ ֙ , ߸ӕֻ ָև ߙ ָ , ָ ֯ , ֙ֆ ֯ פև , ׾ֿ פ֟ 22.04.2006 ӕ־֮ ֻֻ֤ ԅ ױ 30.04.2006 ӛ 22 ִ ֟ ֚ ֵֻ , ֛ ӳ߸ ꅠ ־ ֵֻ ֲ ֲ ꅠ ӟ֜ ִ֯ 13 ׌ֵ ևԅ ֲ ֲ ꅠ ֙ כ ֕ ׸ , ן ָ , ? ׻֟ ־ Ӿ ߸ӕֻ ָև Ӥ ߲ ߙ ָ ֬ ֟ ֻ ִ ֓ ֕ ֵ֙֙ ֵօ Ӿ ߤָ ִ֬ , ֮ ֕ ֵ֙֙ ֣ ֤֟ , Ӥ ׻֋ օ ֕ ֮ ֮֮ ߅ ִֵ֗ ֵ ؓ֟ ֟ , ָ ֤ ֵֻ , ֱ ָ ָ ָ פ֮ , ؓ֟ ֟ ֣ Ӿ ߤָ , ׻֋ ֮ ֕ פօ ֤֟ á ֣ ֵօ ߸-߸ 14 ֋ ֲ ֵ ؙ ֻ , ִ ׻֋ ߤָ , ؙ ִ , ֋ ָ ֤֟ ָ ׻ֵ ֻ֮ ֻ ןָ , וÙ , ֌ פ ֵ ևԅ ֲ ֮ ֛ ֛ ָ ֵ, ־֬ ָ և, ָ և, ֛ ָ և ֛ ֵֻ ָ Ӥ ֲ֮֨ ָ Ӥ ָ ֟ , ס ָ , Ӿ , וִ ִ֮ ָ ָ֌ , ™֌ , ִֻ֮ , ֲ ָ Ӥ פ ָ ֯ ֟פ ָ ֣ ֻ, ֟ ֮, ֙ ָ פ ֋ ָ ִֿ פ ߙ Ӿ - , ָ 10 ևԅ כև , , ֟ פ֟ -ִ֗ וֿ ײ ו֮ Ӿ , ֟ פ ֋, ֻ ֋Ӆ ֙֋ ֯ ֻ ӟ֜ ִ֯ 13 ׌ֵ և, ױ 01.05.2006 ߓ֮ ևԅ 9 ׻ֵ ֟-׾֟ ָ߸ ִ֯ ֋ ֋ (3 K/ASC ָ ֿ:)

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