PREVIOUS HOUR

PK/AKA/2N/2.30

The House reassembled after lunch at

thirty two minutes past two of the clock,

 

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair

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PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

BILLS INTRODUCED

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Shri Santosh Bagrodia, not present; Shrimati Hema Malini, not present; Shrimati Prema Cariappa, not present.

THE CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2006 (INSERTION

OF NEW ARTICLE 21B AND TO AMEND ARTICLE 51A.)

 

SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India.

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN: Sir, I introduce the Bill. (Ends)

(Followed by 2O/PB)

PB-SCH/2o/2.35

THE WORKING CHILDREN (RESCUE, REHABILITATION AND WELFARE) BILL, 2006

 

SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for the identification of children employed in industries, occupations, households and establishments, eateries, etc., for rescuing them from such employment and for their proper rehabilitation and for welfare measures to be undertaken by the State through education, training and such other measures for the rescued working children and for matters connected therewith and incidental thereto.

 

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN: Sir, I introduce the Bill.

(Ends)

THE COMMERCIALISED GIRL CHILD TRAFFICKING (PREVENTION, REHABILITATION AND WELFARE) BILL, 2006.

 

SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for the prevention of commercialised girl child trafficking wherein a girl child is forced into prostitution after luring, procuring or kidnapping her or dedicating her as devadasi for commercial gains by providing deterrent punishment including capital punishment for such commercialisation and for rehabilitation of such girl child and for welfare measures to be undertaken by Government and for matters connected therewith and incidental thereto.

 

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

SHRI E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN: Sir, I introduce the Bill.

(Ends)

THE PREVENTION OF PUSHING AND FORCING GIRL CHILD INTO FLESH TRADE AND IMMORAL TRAFFIC BILL, 2006.

 

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The question was put and the motion was adopted.

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(ִ֯)

THE PREVENTION OF HEINOUS CRIME AND BARBAROUS CRUELTY AGAINST WOMEN BILL, 2006.

 

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The question was put and the motion was adopted.

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(ִ֯)

THE UNORGANISED LABOUR AND AGRICULTURAL WORKERS (WELFARE) BILL, 2006.

 

ߴ֟ ִ þָ֕ (֬ Ϥ):  , ß־ ֕ ָ ך ״ ֣ ָ ׻֋ ָ ֵ ֮ ׬ ã֮֯ ֣ ֕ ָ ִ֟ ֤֕ ֮֟, ֮ ֣ ׾µ ׮׬ ׾֬ֆ ׻֋ ׮׬ ã֮֯ ָ דߵ ָ ֣-֣ ן ֣ ׿ֿ֤ ׾֬֋ Ϥ֮ ֟֌ ֣ ֮ ׾ֵ ֲӬ ׻֋ ׾֬ :ãׯ֟ ן ֋

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

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(ִ֯)

THE CITIZENS' SMART CARD BILL, 2006.

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The question was put and the motion was adopted.

ָ֕ ״: , ׾֬ :ãׯ֟ (ִ֯)

(Followed by 2p/SKC)

2P/2.40/SKC-MCM

THE TRADITIONAL HERBAL MEDICINES (REGULATION OF SALE AND COMPULSORY EVIDENCE BASED TRIAL) BILL, 2006

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The question was put and the motion was adopted.

ָ֕ ״ : , ׾֬ :ãׯ֟ (ִ֯)

THE INDIAN EVIDENCE (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2006

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The question was put and the motion was adopted.

ָ֕ ״ : , ׾֬ :ãׯ֟ (ִ֯)

THE CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2006

(AMENDMENT OF ARTICLE 275)

SHRI B.J. PANDA (ORISSA): Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India.

 

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

 

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, I introduce the Bill. (Ends)

THE PREVENTION OF UNSOLICITED TELEPHONIC CALLS AND PROTECTION OF PRIVACY BILL, 2006

 

SHRI B.J. PANDA (ORISSA): Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to prohibit unsolicited telephone calls by business promoters or individuals to persons not desirous of receiving such calls and for the protection of individual privacy of citizens and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto.

 

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, I introduce the Bill. (Ends)

THE UNDERDEVELOPED AND BACKWARD AREAS AND REGIONS (SPECIAL PROVISION FOR ACCELERATED DEVELOPMENT)

BILL, 2006

 

SHRI B.J. PANDA (ORISSA): Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for the establishment of an autonomous Central Authority to ensure rapid, accelerated and overall development of poor, underdeveloped and backward areas and regions of the country, which lag behind in matters of development of economic, social, educational, technical, infrastructural and industrial fields and assure their speedy development in a planned manner and for matters connected therewith and incidental thereto.

 

The question was put and the motion was adopted.

SHRI B.J. PANDA: Sir, I introduce the Bill. (Ends)

DISCUSSION ON THE PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT

(RESERVATION FOR WOMEN) BILL, 2005 - CONTD.

 

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (KARNATAKA): Sir, as I had stated earlier, I thank the hon. Member, Shrimati Maya Singh, for bringing forward this Bill.

Sir, this is an important Bill. But, I have got my own doubts so far as the maintainability of this Bill and its provisions by the State Governments is concerned. It is true that some of the State Governments have made reservations in Government employment. As per the information available with me and provided by the Government in reply to the Unstarred Questions, the State Governments of Andhra Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Orissa, Rajasthan, Sikkim and Tamil Nadu have got schemes for providing reservation to women in Government service. The Government of Bihar had made a provision for providing reservation to women belonging to backwards classes in Government jobs.

(Contd. by 2q)

HK/2q/2.45

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (CONTD.): Now the question is: Is the Central Government in a position to direct the State Government to make provision for reservation in the Government service? In one of the replies given by the hon. Law Minister, it is stated that the matter falls in the purview of the State. The Government of India has no responsibility so far as the provision to be made by the State Government with regard to reservation is concerned. Then will it be maintainable if the provision is made by the Central Government? This is one question. So far as the objective of this Bill is concerned, it is a laudable one and, in fact, this should have been done. I don't say that the Central Government has not done anything for the empowerment of women for the last more than fifty years, but still we have to work to ameliorate the condition of women and in this regard we would like to congratulate Shrimati Maya Singh. Now, what about the employment in the organised sector? Whether it is Government or private sector, women workers constitute a significant portion of the workforce of the country. The employment of women in the organised sector, as on 31st June, 2000, was 49,50,000, that is, about 50,00,000. This figure relates to both the public and private sectors belonging to the State and the Central Governments. This constitutes 17.8 per cent of the total organised sector employment in the country. It is nearly 18 per cent. How far have we gone? Is it sufficient? About 20,50,000 women employees are absorbed in the community, social and personnel sectors and this employment to women is highest in the south India, not in the north India. Now, I come to the women employment in the organised sector.

(THE VICE-CHAIRMAN, SHRI KALRAJ MISHRA, in the Chair)

Their number is about 28,58,000 in agriculture and allied occupations, mining and quarrying, manufacturing, electricity, gas, water, construction, wholesale, retail business, hotels, restaurant, transport, storage, communication, financial, insurance, real estate, social services, etc. This figure is given by the Government. In the private sector, their number is 20,91,000. In total, it comes to 49,50,000. This is the picture which is visible in the country so far as the employment of women is concerned. If we go through the employment in unorganised sector -- a Bill is also coming on that -- about 50 per cent of the workers in beedi factories are women, be in the homes or factories. (Contd. by KSK/2r)

KSK/2.50/2R

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (CONTD): In plantation sector, about 10 per cent of the workforce are women. They are in plantation sector also. Now, what is their working condition? The Government has to look into this aspect also. Even though a part of this sector is unorganised, we have to see whether they have got proper service conditions or not. Are we proud to say that our nation is looking after the welfare of these woman workers in these sectors? I don't think that we can proudly say that we have looked after them very well for the last so many years. Now, Sir, are we serious in this regard, as I have submitted earlier? Now, is there gender discrimination? There is no doubt about it. Our Constitution clearly says that there should not be any gender discrimination, and we have to give lot of importance to the women, to their upliftment, and also to their empowerment, the principle of gender equality is enshrined in the Indian Constitution, in its Preamble, Fundamental Rights, Fundamental Duties and Directive Principles. The Constitution not only grants equality to women but also empowers the State to adopt measures of positive discrimination in favour of women. There is discrimination. So, now, Sir, the Government has to look into the number of woman seats in Rajya Sabha or Lok Sabha. It is coming down. Are we serious about providing reservation to women in the Parliament? Let us see what is the reply given by the Government in this regard. Now, sorry to say, I have to quote our Law Minister's reply on the question, "Whether the Government proposes to make special efforts to push through women's Reservation Bill without further delay." The answer is, "The Government proposes to bring in a Women's Reservation Bill on the basis of the agreed provisions. With the objective of evolving a consensus on Women's Reservation Bill, the Chairperson of the United Progressive Alliance convened a meeting on 22nd August, 2005, in which the constituents of the United Progressive Alliance and the Left Parties participated. Subsequently, the Prime Minister held a meeting with the leaders of the National Democratic Alliance and other leaders on 24th August, 2005. Three proposals relating to Women's Reservation Bill were considered. One was to re-introduce the lapsed Bill providing one-third reservation of seats for women. The second was to increase the strength of the Legislature and provide one-third of the original number of seats to women. The third was to implement the proposal of the Election Commission of India, which is commonly known as the Gill formula -- the hon. Member is not sitting today -- to make it mandatory for the recognised political parties to ensure putting a minimum agreed percentage of women in State Assemblies and Parliamentary elections so as to allow them to retain the recognition with the Election Commission as political parties." Sir, our Party's President is very serious about implementation of 33 per cent reservation for women. Her late husband, Shri Rajiv Gandhi, made reservation in Panchayati Raj and also in the municipal institutions. I happened to be in charge of Rural Development at that time. He was so serious, and when the Bill failed here for want of one vote, he was so sad. I can't explain. Sir, now, his wife, who is now the Chairperson of United Progressive Alliance, is also very serious on this issue. Now, coming to what the Government has to say, "As no consensus could be arrived at, it was not possible for the Government to introduce a fresh Bill in the Parliament. (continued by 2s)

GSP-MP/2.55/2S

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (CONTD.): The Government is making all efforts to seek a consensus on the provision so that a Bill could be brought before the Parliament at the earliest.

Sir, I am sorry to say that we, the men, in the House are not serious enough about this provision to be made for the reservation to women. We don't want it. That is our attitude. We say so many things inside and outside the Parliament to please women but we are not serious. If, at all, we are serious, it is not a big job. Sir, when BJP and some other parties are also extending their full support, what is the difficulty for us?

Sir, my submission before you is that unless we are serious about empowering the women, not only in the Government posts but also inside the Parliament, how can we set an example for others? Before saying that, we must implement the provisions here, whether it is Rajya Sabha, Lok Sabha or the State Assemblies. We have to show that we are very serious and we have done it. Sir, so many State Governments have not made these provisions, and 33 per cent or 1/3rd reservation has not been given.

Now, the question before the nation is whether the empowerment of women has to take place or not. And, if that has to take place, why are we delaying it? Sir, everybody knows about the condition of women in the country. It is not new. What is happening in the villages, what is happening in some of the slums, what is happening in the colonies where the poor people are residing, or, what is happening in the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe clusters? Sorry to say, women are dragged, women are raped, molested. I don't say it about all the women but, particularly, women in some sections of the society. For social reasons, what they do are all inhuman things, which we, as a civilized society, do not expect them to do like this. But they are doing it; they are committing these atrocities against women. Are we speaking against it in the Parliament in one voice? Sorry to say that we are not. Are we giving the highest respect to women inside the Parliament and outside the Parliament? Sorry to say, 'No'. We have not come up to that expectation also. So, my submission would be that even in the Government, even in the Cabinet, we should create sufficient posts; and give sufficient representation to women. Then, there will be a very clear message that here is a Government; here are the people who matters. It is very easy to say. But, if we don't do that, what can we expect from those people who are living in the clusters? So, my humble submission before the House is that we have to do something for the amelioration of the weaker sections, particularly, the women.

Sir, you know about the women empowerment project. You are very well versed on that subject. Self Help Groups for women in India have been recognized as an effective strategy for the empowerment of women in rural, as well as, urban areas. (Contd by SK/2T)

 

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